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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2019, 11:22:39 AM »

Episode 5 - Refacing the Bass End Pallets

Despite being mostly employed as a woodworker since the age of 15, and searching on the internet for clarification, I am unable to answer the following question: What, if any, is the difference between a veneer pin and a headed brad? Is veneer pin perhaps a British term for wire gauge headed brads?

Once again, two peoples separated by a common language. :-)

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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2019, 12:46:05 PM »

Although my D/G Erica is still an ongoing project I took it to a session last night and was told that my playing was coming on well - I suspect that my ability to keep up with the pace set is entirely down to the fettling videos. It is so much more airtight and I've got the keyboard almost perfect.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2019, 02:29:54 PM »

Almost everything and a bit more will be needed for my next project. Refacing the pallets is the most urgent as there is a residue of moulting felt surrounding the pallet mechanisms.
And regasketing the bellows will improve its box asthma.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2019, 07:12:39 PM »

Almost everything and a bit more will be needed for my next project. Refacing the pallets is the most urgent as there is a residue of moulting felt surrounding the pallet mechanisms.
And regasketing the bellows will improve its box asthma.

That there is a big box. Three voice MMM most likely although LMM is possible. Refacing pallets on the bass end may take a while or be too daunting to attempt as the complex mechanism that allows reed sharing for the chords make it impossible (in my estimation) to access the pallets without removing the mechanism en masse. I seem to remember looking at it once and wondering if I might remove the stradella type links one by one into a holding rack in the right order. If you do have a go please take pictures and document your methodology, that would be very useful. Good luck.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2019, 08:35:19 PM »

It's LMM Pete. The tremolo and low reeds can be switched out. H reeds apart from T reeds on the bass notes only.
The treble pallets fall apart as I play it, but it sounds fantastic. And LOUD. The bass seems not too bad so that might not be urgent.
I have a club IIB too. A grey Darth but in worse condition. That might be for the chop though I'm quite fond of the Darth look.
I can't do a series like Lester, but I'll do photos and try and do it in sensible stages.
Bass will stay club, but I can't cope with the gleichton. Not at this stage.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2019, 12:11:41 PM »

That there is a big box. Three voice MMM most likely although LMM is possible. Refacing pallets on the bass end may take a while or be too daunting to attempt as the complex mechanism that allows reed sharing for the chords make it impossible (in my estimation) to access the pallets without removing the mechanism en masse. I seem to remember looking at it once and wondering if I might remove the stradella type links one by one into a holding rack in the right order. If you do have a go please take pictures and document your methodology, that would be very useful. Good luck.
My Club IIB Victoria has a sharing mechanism and it was quite easy to reach the pallets, the big issue was gluing the half-row pallets on the treble side.
If the club IIIB is similar, then it shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2019, 03:36:25 PM »

The Club IIIB is nothing like the Victoria Eshed, I'll take a pic when I get a chance.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2019, 05:08:39 PM »

Here you go.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2019, 05:13:41 PM »

Thanks! You learn new things every day :)
How many reeds per chord/bass does it have that such a contraption is necessary?
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2019, 06:21:04 PM »

I'll take the bass end off and take a pic of the reed blocks later this evening or tomorrow.  (:)
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #110 on: April 15, 2019, 04:24:22 PM »

Just in case anybody knows, what size gasket do I need for the bellows on this club IIIBS and is it the same for a club IIB (Darth Vader type)?
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #111 on: June 13, 2019, 09:41:47 AM »

After a short hiatus due to health problems we are back


Hot Rod a Hohner Episode 11 - G Scale Reeds

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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #112 on: June 13, 2019, 09:43:57 AM »

Still to come


Episode 12 - Tuning the Treble
Episode 13 - Tuning the Bass
Episode 14 - Taping off Thirds
Episode 15 - Fitting Strap Brackets

Open to any other suggestions

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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #113 on: June 13, 2019, 11:11:43 AM »

Still to come


Episode 12 - Tuning the Treble
Episode 13 - Tuning the Bass
Episode 14 - Taping off Thirds
Episode 15 - Fitting Strap Brackets

Open to any other suggestions

Cleaning, rejuvenating or replacing casein buttons?

Not exactly a repair, but removing smells e.g. tobacco smoke?

Glad to see that normal service is resumed.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #114 on: June 13, 2019, 11:34:20 AM »

After a short hiatus due to health problems we are back


Hot Rod a Hohner Episode 11 - G Scale Reeds

Lester, small error in the script at 0.48 you have "on the G row B on pull and D on push".  push and pull reversed?
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #115 on: June 13, 2019, 11:37:03 AM »

After a short hiatus due to health problems we are back


Hot Rod a Hohner Episode 11 - G Scale Reeds

Lester, small error in the script at 0.48 you have "on the G row B on pull and D on push".  push and pull reversed?


Bugger, but love the concept of me having a script rather than just winging it  (:)
Will add a note to the youtube Ta

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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #116 on: June 13, 2019, 01:48:25 PM »

Still to come


Episode 12 - Tuning the Treble
Episode 13 - Tuning the Bass
Episode 14 - Taping off Thirds
Episode 15 - Fitting Strap Brackets

Open to any other suggestions

I think I mentioned it before, but I would like to re-suggest "patching holes in the bellows gussets". Because that's the most urgent problem with my "project box".
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #117 on: June 13, 2019, 01:50:15 PM »

Still to come


Episode 12 - Tuning the Treble
Episode 13 - Tuning the Bass
Episode 14 - Taping off Thirds
Episode 15 - Fitting Strap Brackets
Episode 16 - Patching Holes in Bellows Gussets

Open to any other suggestions

I think I mentioned it before, but I would like to re-suggest "patching holes in the bellows gussets". Because that's the most urgent problem with my "project box".


Thought I'd already mentioned it   ::)

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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2019, 02:13:52 PM »


Open to any other suggestions

Not exactly a repair, but removing smells e.g. tobacco smoke?

That nice Mr Wesson of this parish recommends Febreezeā€¦.
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Re: Hot Rod your Hohner
« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2019, 02:25:29 PM »


Open to any other suggestions

Not exactly a repair, but removing smells e.g. tobacco smoke?

That nice Mr Wesson of this parish recommends Febreezeā€¦.


As do I
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