'something' on the water

[sandy]

Traditional tune in my head from a session that is called 'something' on the water and I cannot remember it.
It's not midnight or waltzing.

 
cheers

Sandy
 

[tallship]

Try these...

X: 1
T: Doon the Water
C:
R:Reel
Q: 232
K:A
M:4/4
L:1/8
|:c1/2c1/2c c2 cB ce|c1/2c1/2c c2 cB ce|fg ag fe dc|dc BA GB Bd|
c1/2c1/2c c2 cB ce|c1/2c1/2c c2 cB ce|fg ag fe dc|dc BA GB Bd|
c1/2c1/2c c2 ce ea|c1/2c1/2c c2 ce ea|f1/2f1/2f f2 fe dc|dc BA GB Bd|
c1/2c1/2c c2 ce ea|c1/2c1/2c c2 ce ea|fg ag fe dc|dc BA GB Bd:|

X: 1
T:Lovely on the Water
F:http://www.folkinfo.org/songs
B:Palmer, Roy, Bushes and Briars, LLanerch, 1999
Z:Vaughan Williams
S:Mr Hilton of South Walsham, Norfolk
M:3/4     %Meter
L:1/8     %
K:C
(A,3/2B,/) |C A, D2 (CG,) |C2 A,2 A,B, |C D E2 c2 | (A2{BA}G2)
w:As_ I walked out one_ mor-ning in the spring-time of the year_
c2 |A3/2A/ G2 (E3/2C/) |D E G,2 (A,B,) |C D E2 (DC) | A,6 |]
w:I o-ver-heard a_ sail-or boy, like_ wise a la-dy_ fair

And a long shot because it's not trad

X: 1
T:Ice on the Water
M:3/4
L:1/8
S:Rodney Miller
C:George Reynolds
N:swung, optionally
K:G
D2|B2 B3 B|c2 d3 d|cBAGFG|BG D2 D2|B2 B3 B|c2 d3 d|cBAGFG|A4 D2|
B2 B3 B|c2 d3 d|cBAGFG|BG D2 DE|=F2  F3 F|G4 Ac|_BAGFDF|G4:|
d2|g2 g2 g2|gf d3 e|=fefagf|ec G3 d|g2 g2 g2|gf d3 e|=fedcBc|d4 df|
g2 g2 g2|gf d3 e|=fefagf|ec G2 GA|_B2 B2  Bd|c_B A2 Ac|_BAGFDF|G4:|

[martyn]

How about 'Smoke on the Water'? It would certainly be interesting to hear it played on a melodeon, especially the lead break.   

Martyn

[Andrel]

Could it be Out on The Ocean ?

[Steve_freereeder]

Traditional tune in my head from a session that is called 'something' on the water and I cannot remember it.
It's not midnight or waltzing.

Sandy, I'm almost certain you misheard the title. I think the tune you want is entitled "Something on the Wart" and refers to a very old traditional tune used to accompany a dance performed at midnight on a full moon, by traditional female healers when searching for ingredients (toadstools, eyes of newts, nettles, enchanter's nightshade, etc.) to go into the cauldron for concocting a potion for common skin disorders.

Narrator: Scene 1 - the blasted heath.
Voice off: Better than the infernal Wilson!
F/X: Thunder, wind, etc.

A lurid flash of lightning reveals the Three Weird Sisters cavorting round a fire over which is suspended a bubbling cauldron.

Enter Macbeth and Banquo

Macbeth: You evil creatures!
Weird Sisters (in chorus): Yes, we can!
Macbeth: I hear you can foretell the future....... wait a minute, that was very good! Then tell the future for me!
Weird Sisters: Macbeth, you shall be King hereafter, but you Banquo, you shall not be king, YET you will be royal!
Banquo: Oh! Oh! ... I'm going to be Queen.
Weird Sisters: The crown will rest upon your issue!
Banquo: On my what?
Weird Sisters: Issue, issue! All fall down! Hee hee hee!

F/X: Thunder, wind, etc, fade out.

With apologies to WS and acknowledgments to ISIRTA in the 1960s. They don't make them like that any more

Anyway, hope that's answered your question, Sandy.

[Graham Collicutt]

Penny on the Water   or Double Schottishe

[Fidjit]

Traditional tune in my head from a session that is called 'something' on the water and I cannot remember it.
It's not midnight or waltzing.

 
cheers

Sandy
 

Perhaps if you played it for us. We might know it by another name. Octopus' Garden Perhaps?

[sandy]

Thank you so much everyone. I have  bonus tunes now 

Graham, you have put me out of my misery. Yes it was Penny on the Water. (98% sure anyway, will look it up now)

But I almost wish it was "Something on the Wart". That sounds fantastic  Thank you Steve.

What a lovely lot you are.

Cheers

Sandy

[Bill the Farmer]

How about Penny on the H2O? This tune is also known as Italian Schottische, AFAIK. 

Code:

X: 50
T:Penny on the H2O
% Nottingham Music Database
S:Kevin Briggs
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:Hornpipe
K:D
P:A
A2|"D"d2d2 d2d2|"A7"cdec "D"d3e|"D"f2f2 "Bm"f2f2|"A7"efge "D7"f4|
"G"gabg "A7"e2e2|"D"fgaf "Bm"d4|"Em"efge "A7"cABc|"D"defg "D7/c"a4|
"G/b"gabg "A7/c+"e2e2|"D"fgaf "Bm"d4|"Em"efge "A7"cABc|"D"d2f2 d2||

[Chris Ryall]

I'm thinking Lovely on the Water - it would work as a slow air.

 http://www.last.fm/music/Steeleye+Span/_/Lovely+on+the+Water?autostart
 Frankie Armstrong also recorded the song in the early 70's

There's also Ducks on the Water - the most recent version I've heard was from Chris Wood, but i got it from Tufty Swift.  

[edit] Wrong again - see above - never mind - also a nice tune and at last I know its name - a bonus 

[theSmoiler]

Yes it was Penny on the Water. (98% sure anyway, will look it up now)

Cheers Sandy

I tend to have heard it called 'Pennies on the Water' - and Dave Townsend has it by this name in his first Volume of English Tunes.

'Fraid I can't hear that tune without it evoking a slight shudder... It is irrevocably, I reckon, linked in my subconscious to a truly horrible time in my past! one of my student placements comprised a thoroughly wretched 5 weeks, leading directly up to the Christmas break, with a truly horrible, sadistic Supervisor who was a total control freak for whom you could do no right.  One of my Sessions each week was helping out with a group of people with learning disabilities in a Jabadao group - which is a sort of sensory-integration/ music and movement type concept. Anyway, the leader, who was a dance therapist, turned out to be a ceilidh-nut and Sidmouth stalwart, and she used 'Pennies on the Water' as the signature tune, to signal the start of the group to participants - whereby everyone would take hold of a huge coloured scarf, in a circle, and move it up and down in time with the music. There was nothing wrong with the group, nor with the group leader (who later became a friend who I used to see alot at Festivals). It's just the connotaton... :'(

Diane 

[Steve_freereeder]

I tend to have heard it called 'Pennies on the Water' - and Dave Townsend has it by this name in his first Volume of English Tunes.

How about Penny on the H2O? This tune is also known as Italian Schottische, AFAIK. 

Yes - that's the one.
Except I know it as Pennies on the Water and also as the Seven Steps Schottische. It is a schottische rather than a hornpipe, and a lovely tune for dancing the schottische to. I learned it from Katie Howson.
It's the second tune I'm playing on this set here
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=UE_YMn7dINc

[Chris Ryall]

Nice. I've not heard it played as a hormpipe but it goes quite well.   To me it evokes St Chartier in the 90's - so no horrors there apart from my beginners scottiche style.

Googling  a bit .. session.org has Lucy Farr's as its 'seven step'. Seems a very different tune - convergent evolution?

[sandy]

I tend to have heard it called 'Pennies on the Water' - and Dave Townsend has it by this name in his first Volume of English Tunes.

How about Penny on the H2O? This tune is also known as Italian Schottische, AFAIK. 

Yes - that's the one.
Except I know it as Pennies on the Water and also as the Seven Steps Schottische. It is a schottische rather than a hornpipe, and a lovely tune for dancing the schottische to. I learned it from Katie Howson.
It's the second tune I'm playing on this set here
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=UE_YMn7dINc

Thank you Steve, that is definitely the one I was thinking of. (Sorry Diane for the shuddering blast from the past, I'll warn you not to click on Steve's link as he's playing it really well  )

Cheers

Sandy
 

[Graham Collicutt]

Words to tune:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
All good children go to heaven.
Penny on the water, twopence on the sea,
Threepence on the railway, and out goes she.

Or something like that.

Graham

[Bill the Farmer]

I tend to have heard it called 'Pennies on the Water' - and Dave Townsend has it by this name in his first Volume of English Tunes.

How about Penny on the H2O? This tune is also known as Italian Schottische, AFAIK. 

Yes - that's the one.
Except I know it as Pennies on the Water and also as the Seven Steps Schottische. It is a schottische rather than a hornpipe, and a lovely tune for dancing the schottische to. I learned it from Katie Howson.
It's the second tune I'm playing on this set here
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=UE_YMn7dINc

It was played at a local nominally French session recently with two As and two Bs. Most peculiar. 

[Steve_freereeder]

I've now done a bit of digging and found my notes from Katie Howson.
Pennies on the Water is the same tune as Seven Step Schottische.
Lucy Farr's Seven Step Schottische is clearly a variation or vice versa.

Thanks Graham for the words to Seven Step Schottische. This prompted my wife to look up one of her references for a book she is currently working on. The words were known in Doncaster in 1888 - see the notes in my abc coding below. Similar words also turn up in childrens' games in Massachusetts and other New England locations, recorded in 1883, so it is likely that they were brought to the US by English immigrants at some time before that.

We do get some interesting threads on this forum! Thanks Sandy for starting us off on this one!  
Here are both tunes as I know them.

Code:

X:1
T:Seven Step Schottische
T:From the playing of Katie Howson
C:Traditional
L:1/4
M:2/2
Q:1/2=72
K:G
P:A
G G G G | F/>G/ A/>F/ G G  | B B B B | A/>B/ c/>A/ B B ||
P:B
c/>d/ e/>c/ A A | B/>c/ d/>B/ G G | A/>B/ c/>A/ F/>D/ E/>F/ | G/>A/ B/>c/ d d |
c/>d/ e/>c/ A A | B/>c/ d/>B/ G G | A/>B/ c/>A/ F/>D/ E/>F/ | G B G2 |]
W:
W:Also known as "Pennies on the Water" and a childrens' 'counting out' rhyme:
W:
W:"One, two, three, 4, 5, 6, 7,
W:All good children go to heaven;
W:A penny by the water,
W:Tuppence by the sea,
W:Threepence by the railway,
W:Out goes she."
W:
W:Source:
W:C. C. B., Doncaster, England.
W:
W:in:
W:
W:Bolton, H. C. 1888. The Counting-out Rhymes of Children,
W: their antiquity, origin and wide distribution - a study in folk-lore.
W:published by Elliot Stock, London 1888.


X:2
T:Lucy Farr's Seven Step Schottische
T:From the playing of Katie Howson
C:Traditional
L:1/4
M:2/2
Q:1/2=72
K:G
P:A
G G G G | G/>A/ B/>G/ E D | B B B B | B/>c/ d/>B/ A2 |
B/>c/ d/>B/ G G | G/>A/ B/>G/ E D | D/>E/ G/>A/ B d/>B/ | A G G2||
P:B
B/>c/ d/>B/ G G | G/>A/ B/>G/ E D | D/>E/ G/>A/ B d/>B/ | B A A2 |
B/>c/ d/>B/ G G | G/>A/ B/>G/ E D | D/>E/ G/>A/ B d/>B/ | A G G2 |]

Edited to correct typo in ABC code.