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« on: March 11, 2010, 09:49:42 AM »

Sorry this is probably a silly question but I don't have a clue regarding the insides of a box  Embarrassed but, can you convert a dg to cf easily enough or is it not worth the bother. I am talking just a bog standard chinese pokerwork. I suspect that one should sell one and buy another. Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 10:14:55 AM »

Sorry this is probably a silly question but I don't have a clue regarding the insides of a box  Embarrassed but, can you convert a dg to cf easily enough or is it not worth the bother. I am talking just a bog standard chinese pokerwork. I suspect that one should sell one and buy another. Huh? Huh?
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I suspect you are correct in your suposition. A D/G box is worth more than a C/F so sell the D/G and buy a C/F off eBAY. A D/G should raise ~£300+ and a really nice looking 3 voice C/F clun went for less than that on eBay last night.

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 09:30:17 PM »

What Lester said.

a really nice looking 3 voice C/F clun went for less than that on eBay last night.
Did you buy it, Lester? Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 10:15:27 PM »

What Lester said.

a really nice looking 3 voice C/F clun went for less than that on eBay last night.
Did you buy it, Lester? Smiley

Nearly, unfortunately lack of internet access at the important hour meant I lost out by £10  Angry
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 07:56:38 AM »

Sandy

Just the thing here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hohner-Erica-melodeon-C-F_W0QQitemZ270544543604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL?hash=item3efdb61f74

Fulfil your wish for C/F and an Erica   Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 09:56:30 PM »

on a similar note, ive been thinking about getting a hohner ouverture v (ala cann / bazeley) and converting it from C/F to d/g surely you just take the c/f reeds out and put the d/g ones in?
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 11:22:24 PM »


Doh, I've only just noticed this. Thanks Lester, missed out there. (I'm too slow for Ebay)
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 11:50:56 PM »


Doh, I've only just noticed this. Thanks Lester, missed out there. (I'm too slow for Ebay)
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Could try this instead? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hohner-Erica-melodeon-C-F_W0QQitemZ270558936881QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL?hash=item3efe91bf31
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 12:22:56 AM »

on a similar note, ive been thinking about getting a hohner ouverture v (ala cann / bazeley) and converting it from C/F to d/g surely you just take the c/f reeds out and put the d/g ones in?
I believe Ivor Hyde worked on a replacement box for Mark, putting Italian reeds in rather than Hohner.  I think someone said it was not altogether successful.  If you were thinking of going the way you outlined, maybe Theo or Mark Rowbotham could reposition the original reeds to best effect with minimal new ones required?  I know Theo does this for C/F to D/G conversions, though usually changing to 4th button start but the Ouverture is probably already 4th button...

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 07:51:43 AM »

I have Mark's Overture here to try to improve the response, which is not good on the higher notes.  This one was converted from Bb/Eb to D/G by fitting new reeds.   I think the problem mainly stems from the reed chambers being too large for the high notes after everything has been shifted up by two whole tones.

I have converted a good number of Liliputs, Preciosa and Club II models from C/F and Bb/Eb to D/G, using the original reeds, and Club IIs using new reeds, both have worked for me.   
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 08:17:19 AM »

Nearly, unfortunately lack of internet access at the important hour meant I lost out by £10  Angry

why not IMHO use a sniper (3 free winning snipes on subscribing and, 1% of wining bid thereafter. plus free extras if you recommend someone) [ Now who wants to give me free snipes Huh? ] I set a maximum bid and usually 7 second lead time.. 
no cost if you lose the auction.  too easy hu  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 11:09:26 AM »

why not IMHO use a sniper (3 free winning snipes on subscribing and, 1% of wining bid thereafter. plus free extras if you recommend someone) [ Now who wants to give me free snipes Huh? ]

I use justsnipe.com, which is free for the relatively low number of ebay buys I do.

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 07:35:07 PM »

I've successfuly used one of the sniping tools on ebay, particularly useful when they finish at an inconvenient time. The problem is that they will still get beaten by autobids, but they also stop you from going over budget. You snipe your max bid, and wait.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 12:09:07 PM »

I suspect that one should sell one and buy another. Huh? Huh?

Or just but another, and keep what you have (C/F Ericas are relatively common on eBay, and relatively less demand means they're often cheaper). And if the mechanics on the one you use most go wonky - swap the blocks, and you're back in business.

Or even buy some spare reed blocks - these occasionally come along secondhand...


I have Mark's Overture here to try to improve the response, which is not good on the higher notes.  This one was converted from Bb/Eb to D/G by fitting new reeds.   I think the problem mainly stems from the reed chambers being too large for the high notes after everything has been shifted up by two whole tones.

One of the regular contributors to the Reyes forum has some experience of converting 12 bass Morino Clubs into G/C/F (I'd guess using new reed blocks) - being based in Italy, and close to the factories, might help in keeping the sound/balance right...


3 voice C/F clun...

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 05:47:00 PM »

can anyone tell me how much it will cost to ram some dg reeds in there?
 would it have to be a club layout or could it be laid out how i like/
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 04:58:44 PM »

are the buttons on the very inside row accidentals?
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