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Discussions => Teaching and Learning => Topic started by: Stiamh on August 10, 2012, 11:24:12 AM
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http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/30387
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http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/30387
Wow!!! I've been after a copy of this for some time. (:)
BTW I believe there are other Scottish melodeon tutors which pre date this publication, copies of which are held in Library collections North of the Border. :P
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A fantastic resource! Three pages appear to be missing (pages 13, 28 and 32), but even without these, it is a very interesting tutorial and tune collection. Does anyone know when it was published?
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Thanks for the link Steve....that's a real gem!
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I have an LP with the Wypers Brothers on it - look out for Melodeon Greats.
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great tune book ( and well worth printing off for that) but only about one and a half pages of melodeon specific tuition material plus the usual couple of pages of 'music theory'.
Interestingly the Wyper brothers consider the 2 row CC# semitone boxes to be melodeons rather than button accordions . Also at a quick skim through) the tunes seem to be in CGDA.
george
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I've printed it out and it's a great resource. I'm using it for learning the C# row on my B/C/C# which I haven't used much as the outside row is what I'm more at home with. There are a couple of odd note positions .in the Wyper book such as a high B natural is shown on the C# row. And there are several tunes I've never come across before.
Many thanks to Nigel Gatherer for making it available
Nigel
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Does anyone have a pdf of this they would like to share?
The original link doesn't find the page...no real surprise 7 years on.
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Thank you for this sir (:)
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Thank you Stiamh.
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Thanks. I haven't looked too closely yet as I'm on site in the van, but I can't find the high level. My favourite.
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I've just checked through it and I can't find the High level Hornpipe either.
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I've just checked through it and I can't find the High level Hornpipe either.
There is a page missing, which is the page with the High Level Hornpipe, Tune 26 on it.
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Does anyone have a pdf of this they would like to share?
The original link doesn't find the page...no real surprise 7 years on.
Try this link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/74ca64z1p5wqb1w/Wyper_Brothers.pdf?dl=0). 43 MB! I'll leave it up for a couple of days.
Ceud Mille Taing!
This is quite some resource!
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I've been trying to determine the date of this publication. While Peter Wyper died in 1920, some of the recordings by Daniel Wyper included in the Regal Records advert on the final page were made in 1921. This suggests that the book was published post-1921, but, of course, this may not be the first edition, so it may have been earlier. Can anyone cast any further light on the date of publication?
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I was wondering about the date too.... presumably predates
Peter Wypers patenting of the B/C since it refers specifically to C/C# 19 key instruments....though the instrument illustrated is clearly an International. Publisher is given as Peter Wyper, Hamilton NB. I am not sure when the term NB (North Britain ) went out of fashion.
The tunes included are a very interesting selection and a real insight into popular Central Belt music of the time: Lowland, Highland (read Gaidhealach) and Irish. "Let Erin Remember" is a song which might not have been universally admired in Hamilton (then or now), on the other hand neither would Hearts of Oak.
One tune (title) really stuck out for me "Paddy was up to Ganger". I first read it as Paddy picking a fight with the ganger.....then I realised it meant Paddy was promoted to Ganger.
A pity that page 28 is missing...It would be very interesting to see the Wyper transcription of the Pibroch of Donald Dhu.
I don't suppose anyone out there has the missing page (s)?
(Edit of 11-11-2019 : Strike out "Peter Wyper Patenting of" the B/C. He didn't patent the B/C - what he did patent in 1915 was a modification to the treble keyboard layout that made a C/C# fully chromatic down to G below middle C, thus giving it the same floor as a fiddle or a pipe chanter.)
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Thank you, I can see this will be very useful.
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This tutorial is for C/C# melodeon.
Interestingly the actual teaching methodology of this tutor designed for C/C# chromatic instruments instructs beginners that they can read the inner C# row as C and uses this throughout the book in all the tunes with sharps in the key.
All tunes in the tutorial are marked (I) for playing on the inner row and (O) for those to be played on the outer row.
The button for each note on the row is numbered, draw notes indicated by a bar over the number and notes taken from the opposite row- i.e. the accidentals relative to the row being played on. Are shown by a + sign after the number.
So here we have the evidence of the Wypers as originators of inside out playing, at the cost of playing many tunes a semitone sharp, an issue later adressed by Peter Wyper's invention and pateting of the B/C tuning.
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Is there a workable link or a PDF you can share? The original one doesn't work. Thanks in advance.
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Was it up for a limited time? I downloaded it , Pm me your Email and I could send it.If its not put back up.
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Interestingly the Wyper brothers consider the 2 row CC# semitone boxes to be melodeons rather than button accordions . Also at a quick skim through) the tunes seem to be in CGDA.
george
I think that was a slight mis-understanding. In Scotland at that period Melodeon and Accordion appear to have been completely interchangeable terms.
Peter Wyper's patent 7983 AD1915 is titled "An Improved Melodeon or Accordion". The 19 key Melodeons that the Wyper brothers tutorial was written to were branded "International Accordeon" - The crossed key trademark is visible on the accordion illustrated on page 3 of the Wyper Tutorial. As late as the mid 1930's Chambers Encyclopedia (effectively Scotland's answer to the Brittanica) contained the entry " Accordion, or MELODEON, ....."
There are a couple of tunes in C and F - to be played on the outside row- i.e. at pitch as written.
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Was it up for a limited time? I downloaded it , Pm me your Email and I could send it.If its not put back up.
Mark, if you can send me a copy I can add it to the forum.
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I've now acquired a copy of the pdf. It was a very large file - 1120Mb, now compressed to 5Mb and available on melnet here http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/page,catalogues.html
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I've now acquired a copy of the pdf. It was a very large file - 1120Mb, now compressed to 5Mb and available on melnet here http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/page,catalogues.html
That's a lot slimmer, but it seems to be missing 6 pages of tunes and two of advertisements compared with my download (43.5Mb, but I don't have the acrobat compression tool).
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Those pages must have been missing from the uncompressed version too. I've just compared before and after and they both have 29 pages.
BTW I don't have Acrobat tools either, I just found an online PDF compressor. I used https://www.ilovepdf.com/
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I think that was a slight mis-understanding. In Scotland at that period Melodeon and Accordion appear to have been completely interchangeable terms.
My father, from Tyrone, has always referred to his 2-row semi-tone box (which he got about 1950) as a melodeon (sometimes pronounced 'melodyum') or accordion interchangeably, not sure if that's the case across the rest of Ireland too.
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I have just amended my reply No.15, of 7 September. Subsequent research (of patent records) indicates that Peter Wyper's only patent was of a modification to the low end of the keyboard- which could be applied to a melodeon of any key- though he explained his patent with reference to C/C# instruments. He may or may not have invented the B/C, however he definitely did not patent that particular innovation. Unless someone can find a patent record to the contrary.
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I have the 37 page version of the Wyper book available, should anyone be interested.
The additional tunes are: Lady Ann Hope; De'il Among the Tailors; Robin Adair; The Tenpenny Bit; Green Fields of America; Rakes of Kildare; Biddy the Bowl Wife; Paddy Whack; Roaring Jelly; Pet of the Pipers; Lannagan's Ball; The; Blackthorn Stick; Stool of Repentance; Captain White; Off She Goes; The Punch Bowl; Nannie Wilt Thou Gang With Me and Her Bright Smile.
The other two pages are an advert for a Scottish song book and an advert for "Scotland's Greatest Accordion Players-Peter and Daniel Wyper-Only On Regal Records-Over 70 Records-Can Be Played On All Gramophones". I would love to get my hands on some of them.
I have compressed it to 8.15 Mb, which is fair quality and emailable. PM me if you would like a copy..
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Is the high level hornpipe there? It is in the index, but that page is missing.
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Is the high level hornpipe there? It is in the index, but that page is missing.
Sadly, no. Page 13 (#25, The Drummer; #26, The High Level Hornpipe; #27, Old Bog Hole) seems to have been missing from the original posting, at the time I saved it.
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As is page 28 (#47, Landlubber Hormpipe; #48, Pibroch of Donald Dhu and #49, Flowers of Edinburgh)
Otherwise, it seems complete.