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Title: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Clive Williams on September 01, 2012, 01:54:35 AM
A clear winner this month folks; a tune variously known as Go and Enlist, I'll Go and Enlist for a Sailor, Go List of a Sailor - and all manner of other variations!

Here's a few videos to get you in the mood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWxkzDTJxFA

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXQmC8W_AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh6vN2NycbI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu7veE6PuKc

... and a couple of versions in ABC: :

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Nelson (Enlist for a Sailor)
T:Version from Ouse Washes Molly Dancers
C:Trad
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
Q:1/4=120
K:Emin
P:A
G2 G2 F2 F2 | EFED B,4 | E2 EF G2 FE | F2 D2 B,4 |
E2 EF G2 A2 | BAGB A2 BA | G2 FE F2 ED |1 E4 E4 :|2 E4 E2 D2 ||
P:B
E2 EF G2 A2 | B2 e2 B3 ^c | d2 d2 dAFG |ABAF D2 F2 |
E2 EF G2 A2 | B2 e2 B2 ^c2 | d2 F2 A2 GF | E4 E4 :|

and

Code: [Select]
X: 1
T:I'll Go and Enlist, Sherborne
M:2/2
L:1/8
K:EDor
P:AA4(B2A2)2
P:A
E2EF G2A2|B2e2 B2Bc|d2d2 d2FG|A2AF D2D2|
E2EF G2A2|B2e2 B2Bc|d2F2 A2GF|E4   E4 ||
P:B
E4   E3F |G4   A4  |B4   e4  |B4   B3c |
d4   d4  |d4   F3G |A4   A3F |D4   D4  |
E2EF G2A2|B2e2 B2Bc|d2F2 A2GF|E4   E4 ||

Lots of different variations and versions of this tune - pick your favourite and have a go!

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: penn on September 01, 2012, 02:54:24 AM
Could Steve please explain how the Ouse Washes cope with the low B >> B,4 >> ? My D/G Erica with accidentals doesn't have one - is this yet another excuse for getting a new melodeon before the end of the month?  ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on September 01, 2012, 06:17:43 AM

I normally play this as a C part to Peat Fire Flame back to back with Woodland Revels. Have not yet played it for Morris.

Usual sketch approach, almost a miniature.

http://youtu.be/S9I7geOdH3c

All the best from Suffolk.

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Lester on September 01, 2012, 08:21:56 AM
Could Steve please explain how the Ouse Washes cope with the low B >> B,4 >> ? My D/G Erica with accidentals doesn't have one - is this yet another excuse for getting a new melodeon before the end of the month?  ;)

I suspect Steve has a 4th button start box but on a 3rd button start you could use the B bass to play this note.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Anahata on September 01, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
Could Steve please explain how the Ouse Washes cope with the low B >> B,4 >> ?

In Ouse Washes, Nicky Stockman's big three row Castagnari will certainly have that note. I expect Steve's box has it too.
That B is standard if you have either no accidentals or 4th button start.
As Lester says (and others have discovered elsewhere) the B bass comes in handy if you don't have it on the treble side.

Quote
My D/G Erica with accidentals doesn't have one - is this yet another excuse for getting a new melodeon before the end of the month?  ;)

Need you ask?  ;)

It should also be possible to transpose the whole tune up a fourth and play it in A Dorian instead or E Dorian. Note there isn't a C natural anywhere, so the transposed version wouldn't even need an F natural. You'd have to compromise on the A minor chords a bit. A bass + C chord, or cut thirds if you have a stop for it (not on an Erica...)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: penn on September 01, 2012, 12:22:49 PM
Thanks Lester & Anahata, using the bass B is a very good idea. As I gain a bit more confidence, I find that I'm enjoying tackling the technical oddities that the box throws up.
Sadly I don't have funds for a new box at the moment, however I have a Club IIB in for tuning with Martyn, so this theoretically should provide the answer to everything, albeit with further interesting challenges ahead.
Thanks for splendid advice.
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Rees on September 01, 2012, 01:19:19 PM

I normally play this as a C part to Peat Fire Flame back to back with Woodland Revels. Have not yet played it for Morris.

Usual sketch approach, almost a miniature.

http://youtu.be/S9I7geOdH3c

All the best from Suffolk.

Bill

Nice playing Bill, especially on the waltz version.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: 911377brian on September 01, 2012, 03:14:10 PM
I know I have'nt been playing long but I can,t seem to hack it at all on my 1 row Hohner in c.['list for a sailor I mean...] Any advice out there?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: FlatNote on September 01, 2012, 03:33:55 PM
I know I have'nt been playing long but I can,t seem to hack it at all on my 1 row Hohner in c.['list for a sailor I mean...] Any advice out there?

On a 1 row in C you can try playing it in D Dorian.  No sharps or Flats are required and it fits fine.  Here's some transposed ABC for the version from the Ouse Washes Molly Dancers.

X:1
T:Nelson (Enlist for a Sailor)
T:Version from Ouse Washes Molly Dancers
C:Trad
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
Q:1/4=120
K:Ddor
P:A
F2 F2 E2 E2 | DEDC A,4 | D2 DE F2 ED | E2 C2 A,4 |
D2 DE F2 G2 | AGFA G2 AG | F2 ED E2 DC |1 D4 D4 :|2 D4 D2 C2 ||
P:B
D2 DE F2 G2 | A2 d2 A3 B | c2 c2 cGEF |GAGE C2 E2 |
D2 DE F2 G2 | A2 d2 A2 B2 | c2 E2 G2 FE | D4 D4 :|


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: 911377brian on September 01, 2012, 05:27:33 PM
Thanks Flatnote. Sadly I have,nt got round to learning ABC yet.If You could tell me what button to push or pull for the first note I think I'd be away. {Slinks off to shed, embarassed......}
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Lester on September 01, 2012, 05:33:52 PM
Thanks Flatnote. Sadly I have,nt got round to learning ABC yet.If You could tell me what button to push or pull for the first note I think I'd be away. {Slinks off to shed, embarassed......}

You will have to play it in the top octave of your one row as the A,4 is not available in the lower octave so
First bar goes thusly:

8th Push
8th Push
7th Pull
7th Pull

PS.
This may be the first minor (dorian) tune you have tried so it will be a bit odd as it is played more on the pull than on the push and the basses will not fit .
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: FlatNote on September 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I have,nt got round to learning ABC yet.

I had forgotten that, as Lester says, the lowest A is not available on the typical 1 row melodeon in C whereas it is available on the ten button C row of some two rows, such as the B/C.  In general, however, if you look at the layout image for the 1 row in C on this site - http://forum.melodeon.net/files/site/Conerow.gif (http://forum.melodeon.net/files/site/Conerow.gif) - a crude but handy rule of thumb for locating the notes given in ABC transcriptions is that the capital letters are for notes towards the left in the image and the lowercase letters are for notes towards the right.  That might be enough to get you going.  ABC is, however, easy to learn and will repay the effort involved many times over.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: 911377brian on September 01, 2012, 07:33:53 PM
Thanks Lester and Flatnote, I've got it now. I guess that one has to compromise with just one row, but its lost its vague air of menace being played so high up.......
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: OldJack on September 02, 2012, 07:57:54 AM
I have a one row Cajun style and there is an A on the first button. Maybe it's just my box that the previous owner changed. Anyway, for me it fits fine on the lower octave. Also, I used Melody Assistant to transpose it to F (where the B notes are marked natural) which I now discover looks like the same as the Dorian D. I'm amazed -- every day it's something different.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Strigulino on September 03, 2012, 12:14:41 PM
I have a Hohner Morgane which seems like it was made to play this - will learn the tune and post.  I like a shanty.  :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: FlatNote on September 03, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Decided to submit early this month despite the all too evident flaws.  I sidestepped Lester's 'dodgy B part' issue by merging the version I had heard before with the marvellous version by the Ouse Washes Molly Dancers.  Since their part B was my part A, the dodgy bit is now part C!

http://youtu.be/_UIZIPBRm8c (http://youtu.be/_UIZIPBRm8c)


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: DDickie on September 03, 2012, 04:30:44 PM
Here's a video of myself and a friend playing it as a jig after a trip to Stonehenge with our local Druids!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMX-Thwh720 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMX-Thwh720)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: brianread on September 03, 2012, 04:31:24 PM
Here's the "Original" Morris On recording, although with a rather unexpected film background!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDImbpWKHus&feature=related 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 03, 2012, 05:15:44 PM
Could Steve please explain how the Ouse Washes cope with the low B >> B,4 >> ? My D/G Erica with accidentals doesn't have one - is this yet another excuse for getting a new melodeon before the end of the month?  ;)
Sorry for the late reply - have been down in the wilds of Suffolk for the Traditional Music Day in Stowmarket and my twice-annual visit to the Suffolk coast to check that the North Sea is still there (it is :Ph ).

Yes - as Lester and Anahata have already surmised, my Ouse Washes box is a 4th button start and therefore I have a low B as my 2nd button push on the G-row. Also as they have mentioned, if you don't have low B, you can always play that note as a B bass on the LH side. The momentary switching of the melody from right to left sides might sound a bit odd to the player, but is hardly noticeable to any listeners.

Steve
(in land-locked Sheffield)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 03, 2012, 05:19:33 PM
Here's a performance we gave in Whitby a few days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA4DVgrv_SE
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: GuyWyatt on September 03, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
The berk in the white jacket who walks in front of the camera at 51 seconds is me.
Guy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: penn on September 03, 2012, 09:35:32 PM
Thanks Steve, having had a proper go now, I reckon there are a few strategies to cover this. The bass B on its own does sound a bit funny from my side, but there's other "wrong" notes that are ok and gone in a flash before you can dwell on it too long  ;)
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Rob2Hook on September 03, 2012, 11:05:46 PM
Has anyone else noticed that whenever a video is made of a morris side, the mic is pointed away from the musicians?  Must still be doing something wrong...  Seems it's preferable to hear the audience discuss what to have for lunch than hear the music.

Rob.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: nemethmik on September 04, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Here's the "Original" Morris On recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDImbpWKHus
Hello Brian, Thank You for the link. What do you mean by "Original"? Do you have a publication with the words and score of this song?
All the Best and Thank You,
Miklos
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Lester on September 04, 2012, 07:32:17 PM
Hello Brian, Thank You for the link. What do you mean by "Original"? Do you have a publication with the words and score of this song?
All the Best and Thank You,
Miklos

http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=25049 (http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=25049)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Clive Williams on September 05, 2012, 01:27:14 AM
Once it's finished uploading, here's my (initial) take on this tune, played on a Hohner Pokerwork in D/G:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77FkES9JRXQ

It's played a hornpipe, and as such is very close to / influenced by / rips off the same idea as (delete as appropriate) the Ouse Washes Molly clip Steve posted, although my version of the tune has the 'Morris On' A music. I think it makes a cracking hornpipe, especially as Ouse Washes do it.

Cheers,

Clive

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on September 05, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
Realized I'd recorded a version in April last year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx-UD_wEauk
I'll have to record an update.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on September 05, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
Oh and there is this version. Lost it when soundlantern went down so just uploaded to soundcloud
Me & my friend Kate a a 'virtual' duo "Sudden Seagull" - Go list for a sailor
http://soundcloud.com/ladydetemps/go-list-for-a-sailor-sudden
I really need to re-record the fiddle part. I'm a bit more in tune now. lol!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on September 05, 2012, 07:24:48 PM
And here is my updated version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MCPnJjRF5w
recorded about 30mins ago
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RobinA on September 08, 2012, 12:53:08 PM
Very nice, Lady.  I also like the version you did with your friend - she has a lovely voice. 

I really like this song and will try to get a version up.  I did learn last month's song, but didn't get it recorded due to the fact that we were on the road and working for the past 3 weeks. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: juker on September 08, 2012, 01:55:20 PM
I wish someone would put up a version on a G/C so I can learn it by ear  :o (not interested in reading music any more!).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 08, 2012, 08:28:22 PM
I wish someone would put up a version on a G/C so I can learn it by ear  :o (not interested in reading music any more!).

I could probably manage that as a midi file if it would help?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on September 08, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Very nice, Lady.  I also like the version you did with your friend - she has a lovely voice. 

I really like this song and will try to get a version up.  I did learn last month's song, but didn't get it recorded due to the fact that we were on the road and working for the past 3 weeks.
Thank you. I shall pass on your compliments to my friend.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: juker on September 09, 2012, 05:09:24 AM
I wish someone would put up a version on a G/C so I can learn it by ear  :o (not interested in reading music any more!).

I could probably manage that as a midi file if it would help?

Thanks Tallship, that would be fantastic  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on September 09, 2012, 11:36:40 AM
yet another slightly different version learnt from Liam Robinson of this parish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2vHyJi8_yQ&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2vHyJi8_yQ&feature=youtu.be)

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 09, 2012, 04:20:50 PM
Thanks Tallship, that would be fantastic  (:)

Here we go then, you'll play this on the outside row of your G/C and as the G row is low pitched there are two midi files, one in the first octave and the other in the second octave. Starting note for you is A, so on your G row it's third button pull for the low octave.

Hmm, I can't attach the files to this post because .mid is not one of the allowed file types. If you PM me an email address I'll send them to you. If you prefer the abc files are here and you can pop them into an on-line converter but as far as I can tell there's no way to save the resulting midi files to your computer.

Code: [Select]
X:65
T:I'll Go and Enlist, Sherborne (Low G)
M:2/2
L:1/8
P:AA4(B2A2)2
K:Ador
P:A
A,2A,B, C2D2|E2A2 E2EF|G2G2 G2B,C|D2DB, G,2G,2|
A,2A,B, C2D2|E2A2 E2EF|G2B,2 D2CB,|A,4 A,4 ||
P:B
A,4 A,3B, |C4 D4 |E4 A4 |E4 E3F |
G4 G4 |G4 B,3C |D4 D3B, |G,4 G,4 |
A,2A,B, C2D2|E2A2 E2EF|G2B,2 D2CB,|A,4 A,4 ||


X:66
T:I'll Go and Enlist, Sherborne
M:2/2
L:1/8
P:AA4(B2A2)2
K:Ador
P:A
A2AB c2d2|e2a2 e2ef|g2g2 g2Bc|d2dB G2G2|
A2AB c2d2|e2a2 e2ef|g2B2 d2cB|A4 A4 ||
P:B
A4 A3B |c4 d4 |e4 a4 |e4 e3f |
g4 g4 |g4 B3c |d4 d3B |G4 G4 |
A2AB c2d2|e2a2 e2ef|g2B2 d2cB|A4 A4 ||
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Ash on September 10, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
Pretty rough attempt - feels a little fraudulent too as it's on the one-row, so no basses (perhaps there is a way to get it to fit, but I can't work it out) - but don't think I'd get a playable version of it sorted on the two-row before the end of the month...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkt_F82hLzg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkt_F82hLzg)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: brianread on September 10, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Played on my Streb (what else?), using the FX7 voice.

http://soundcloud.com/brianread/list-for-a-sailor
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Clive Williams on September 10, 2012, 11:59:54 PM
I wish someone would put up a version on a G/C so I can learn it by ear  :o (not interested in reading music any more!).

Here you go, here's my somewhat Morris On influenced version played on the G/C Hohner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XADvSex1Qjo

This is pretty much exactly the same as my D/G version earlier in the month, simply played on a different instrument. The first part is in the lower register, the second part an octave up, mostly because I don't have the necessary low note to play it an octave down! Virtually the entire tune is played just using the normal 8 basses, though now I listen back to it on the 2nd and 3rd time through there's also a passing B bass note (starred below) played sometimes on the bass when going from the E minor chord to the A minor one. You can easily skip that if you don't have it available, as on my D/G.

Chords used here are (G/C):

A music: Am - Am/D - G - Em/B* - Am - Am/D - G/Em - Am

B music: Am/G - F/C - Em - Em/D/G - Am/G/F - F/G - F/Em - Am

or on a D/G:

A music: Em - Em/A - D - Bm - Em - Em/A - D/Bm - Em

B music: Em/D - C/G - Bm - Bm/A/D - Em/D/C - C/D - C/Bm - Em

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: nudiefish on September 12, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
Here's my effort - the cringe factor is strong in this one.  I guess that the exercise is partly to take you out of your comfort zone.  Anyway...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1nwb95suXc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: David J on September 12, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
Has anyone else noticed that whenever a video is made of a morris side, the mic is pointed away from the musicians?  Must still be doing something wrong...  Seems it's preferable to hear the audience discuss what to have for lunch than hear the music.

Rob.
The mic usually points in the same direction as the lens of course. Plus, the audience chatter or else the sound of the sticking causes the camera's sound auto level to lose the music too. I can't think of any amateur morris video I've seen where the soundtrack does the music justice! Grrr.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Ollie on September 12, 2012, 02:01:37 PM
Has anyone else noticed that whenever a video is made of a morris side, the mic is pointed away from the musicians?  Must still be doing something wrong...  Seems it's preferable to hear the audience discuss what to have for lunch than hear the music.

Rob.
The mic usually points in the same direction as the lens of course. Plus, the audience chatter or else the sound of the sticking causes the camera's sound auto level to lose the music too. I can't think of any amateur morris video I've seen where the soundtrack does the music justice! Grrr.

This does! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLjenWikGiY
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: David J on September 12, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
Indeed - standing right behind the box player certainly helps! Back to the topic, am I right in thinking that Saul Rose's piece 'Tom o Vickers' (on the Mother of All Morris) album is based on Go Enlist?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Sandy on September 12, 2012, 02:21:15 PM
Back to the topic, am I right in thinking that Saul Rose's piece 'Tom o Vickers' (on the Mother of All Morris) album is based on Go Enlist?

I was just thinking that about ten minutes ago !

Here's a quick go with an experimental Am intro...

http://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/go-and-enlist-for-a-sailor (played on a DG Hohner pressed wood)

Cheers,
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: boxcall on September 14, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
I just started to learn this one today, played on my newly acquired Beltuna one row in D   thanks Brandon
playing in Edor I think I have the A part pretty good but the B part needs work. I don't really like the way it slows down in the version posted above or maybe if I could play it better I might.
nice tune though!
I'll keep working on it and try to post another.

Michael

 http://youtu.be/8rBRggsvCVk
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Jackhumphreys on September 14, 2012, 05:46:02 PM
GO & LIST FOR A SAILOR (1) as posted earlier today
http://youtu.be/VUIo31879fA (http://youtu.be/VUIo31879fA)  (Ouse Wash Molly tune)

GO & LIST FOR A SAILOR (2)   in two keys.   http://youtu.be/TvPHiDHsXcY (http://youtu.be/TvPHiDHsXcY)

The first one is trying for some of the off-beats rhythm of  that great Molly video, plus trying to give different character to the A and B.

The second one is a quick  try-out of the idea of playing the A music in "Eminor" and the B music in "A minor"  (This is DG-speak. On my CF it really comes out in Dm and Gm).
When playing it all in the same key, it felt like there were two tunes here rather than a proper A and B of the same tune. (I think i read that the  B music is like a fiddle interlude between verses of the song.)  Clive's version made a nice separation by playing the B music an octave higher, i seem to remember.   Sandy's  A minor introduction gave me the idea of giving each part its own key.  I quite like it that way.  (There are plenty of tunes with A and B in different keys, after all).  Maybe better if the B was the higher, like a fiddle.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 14, 2012, 08:57:36 PM
I don't really like the way it slows down in the version posted above or maybe if I could play it better I might.
nice tune though!
I'll keep working on it and try to post another.

Michael

It's only really played like that for morris dancing Michael, you wouldn't play the 'slows' in a session (unless the session was apres morris!) . Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXQmC8W_AM), it will make more sense of the slow bits.

Pete.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RogerT on September 14, 2012, 11:15:41 PM
Here's the "Original" Morris On recording, although with a rather unexpected film background!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDImbpWKHus&feature=related

Have to say I love this recording.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RogerT on September 15, 2012, 08:15:24 AM
This does! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLjenWikGiY

You see this is one of the great things about MEL Net, it's like wandering into a sweet shop..

This vid of The Hammersmith Morris Men is briliant, I've watched now at least 4 times - thanks for posting Ollie.... but what is the tune he is playing (and I wonder if that box is now on sale in Hobgoblin in London - big yellow Hohner)?

I may have to try and get into a morris side now I think...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Anahata on September 15, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
but what is the tune he is playing (and I wonder if that box is now on sale in Hobgoblin in London - big yellow Hohner)?

The usual tune for Adderbury Shooting.

And that box is an early and somewhat customised Oakwood. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever of it or anything like it ever being on sale anywhere. (except in unthinkable circumstances)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RogerT on September 15, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: Clink=topic=10234.msg127720#msg127720 date=1347698505
but what is the tune he is playing (and I wonder if that box is now on sale in Hobgoblin in London - big yellow Hohner)?

The usual tune for Adderbury Shooting.

And that box is an early and somewhat customised Oakwood. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever of it or anything like it ever being on sale anywhere. (except in unthinkable circumstances)

Thanks Anahata... I got carried away in my post.. Um... so these Oakwood boxes are obtainable under what circumstances?  :P
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: brianread on September 15, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
Here's the "Original" Morris On recording, although with a rather unexpected film background!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDImbpWKHus&feature=related

Have to say I love this recording.

"Morris on" came out in about 1972 or 73, and probably got more people interested in English Dance music and Cotswold Morris (and the other Morris's as well), than any other single event in the last 40 years. That is a completely unsubstantiable statement, but could well be true! It was for me... :M  :||: :Ph :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 15, 2012, 02:28:45 PM
Um... so these Oakwood boxes are obtainable under what circumstances?  :P
They are no longer made. Very rarely, one comes up second-hand, but most people lucky enough to have one are holding on to them.
The nearest equivalent instruments are the Dino Baffetti Oakwood specials marketed by the Music Room:

http://www.themusicroom-online.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/244_249_485/products_id/4165
http://www.themusicroom-online.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/244_249_485/products_id/4626
http://www.themusicroom-online.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/244_249_485/products_id/5497

 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: AndyShear on September 16, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
Quick sketch of this ....sure there's a better one somewhere in my fingers ....if I find it I'll do another ....but for now here you go

http://youtu.be/X8Nx29YkO2o


Andy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: boxcall on September 16, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
I don't really like the way it slows down in the version posted above or maybe if I could play it better I might.
nice tune though!
I'll keep working on it and try to post another.

Michael

It's only really played like that for morris dancing Michael, you wouldn't play the 'slows' in a session (unless the session was apres morris!) . Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXQmC8W_AM), it will make more sense of the slow bits.

Pete.
Thanks Pete
I see what you mean but then what would I do for a B part in the Edor version instead of the slows ? maybe I just play A part again :-\.
I could try to learn the Emin version but I don't have the low B ( I am working on changing this) I would need. I suppose I could play it on the upper octave.
Michael

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Jackhumphreys on September 19, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
Back to the topic, am I right in thinking that Saul Rose's piece 'Tom o Vickers' (on the Mother of All Morris) album is based on Go Enlist?

I was just thinking that about ten minutes ago !

Here's a quick go with an experimental Am intro...

http://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/go-and-enlist-for-a-sailor (played on a DG Hohner pressed wood)

Cheers,
Sandy
 (:)

Thanks Sandy. I really like your rhythm and all those tiny silences in the right places.  It just shows how push-pull can achieve that  certain special quality that cross-rowing never can.  Jealous.....again!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Theo on September 19, 2012, 08:54:12 AM
I was just thinking that about ten minutes ago !

Here's a quick go with an experimental Am intro...

http://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/go-and-enlist-for-a-sailor (played on a DG Hohner pressed wood)

Cheers,
Sandy
 (:)

Thanks Sandy. I really like your rhythm and all those tiny silences in the right places.  It just shows how push-pull can achieve that  certain special quality that cross-rowing never can.  Jealous.....again!

I do love it when a good player demonstrates that the (Hohner) melodeon is capable of great musical subtlety.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: joreema on September 19, 2012, 03:06:35 PM
This version is from Liam and Tim, our wonderful musicians on Folkcamp 2010 in Zeilitzheim, Germany.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYoTZOmAd8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RobinA on September 20, 2012, 02:31:37 AM
Here's mine. Pokerwork d/g. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4MxFi7EAQ

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Lester on September 20, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
Here's mine. Pokerwork d/g. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4MxFi7EAQ

Like that  (:)

See you bought your harp to the party and no one asked you to play  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: pikey on September 20, 2012, 05:11:35 PM
Here's mine , late again......

First on my newly acquired Marcus Anglo Concertina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMEbXRO79Ho&feature=youtu.be


Then on my Dino Binci Proto Oakwood Special.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPFX7jGYYdQ

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Mcgrooger on September 20, 2012, 09:10:20 PM
Here's my attempt. Played from memory and learnt by 'osmosis' probably mainly from Morris On and Edward II. I've played the tune for the song as I remember it on the inner row and then the 'main' tune on the outer row. I used my Theo-sourced Hohner CF box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th89SbI099Y
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: joreema on September 20, 2012, 11:05:45 PM
Here's my attempt. Played from memory and learnt by 'osmosis' probably mainly from Morris On and Edward II. I've played the tune for the song as I remember it on the inner row and then the 'main' tune on the outer row. I used my Theo-sourced Hohner CF box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th89SbI099Y

I like the atmosphere of your version. Nice melodeon, too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Strigulino on September 22, 2012, 01:53:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfp_mp-CUY

Not bad, considering. Lili newly declubbed and fettled.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: penn on September 22, 2012, 10:00:29 PM
I managed to solve the problem with the lack of low B. Here's the Club IIB with promise of every note one could ever need.
There are a number of variants of this tune but I couldn't get the Ouse Washes Molly version out of my head so it owes most to that.

I tried to improve the sound quality on this by recording it with some condenser mics rather than the ipad. I'm not sure it's improved the performance greatly, but I had to try and get across the sound of the Club IIB which has recently had the magic wand waved over it by Martyn White the Wizard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3R65MjN_DU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3R65MjN_DU)
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: RogerT on September 23, 2012, 07:49:11 AM
First on my newly acquired Marcus Anglo Concertina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMEbXRO79Ho&feature=youtu.be

Very nice, in C, - esp with the extra parts mirroring the Morris On song, which for me make it a much more interesting tune. The main theme tune is really just the chorus and (for me) a bit boring when played sans the other bits...
but (to head off a debate) that's just my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Helena Handcart on September 24, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
*** Newbie alert ***

OK, here's my first posting for TOTM. I've been playing for about five months now so time to take the plunge and post something so this is me playing for one whole minute, complete with muttering and bum notes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Mcgrooger on September 24, 2012, 07:53:09 PM
*** Newbie alert ***

OK, here's my first posting for TOTM. I've been playing for about five months now so time to take the plunge and post something so this is me playing for one whole minute, complete with muttering and bum notes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp)
Really well done - especially after only 5 months. Excellent!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Lester on September 25, 2012, 04:48:06 PM
*** Newbie alert ***

OK, here's my first posting for TOTM. I've been playing for about five months now so time to take the plunge and post something so this is me playing for one whole minute, complete with muttering and bum notes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0v_L7EmWYY&feature=plcp)

 (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:) Well Done!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Helena Handcart on September 25, 2012, 07:31:33 PM
Thanks for your encouraging comments guys - it really is helpful to get some feedback.  Being in something of a melodeon desert here I am learning on my own with the help of tutor books (assorted) so I am never sure if I am playing things right or not.     :||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Frank Lee on September 26, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Here's my shot at TOTM.  Played here on a C/F box, mostly on the C row (D minor).  I've included 'slows' as I happen to think they're part of what gives Morris tunes their majesty, magnificence, and unique Englishness, whether or not I do them justice.  When people playing them in a session know what they're doing the result is transcends anything you'd get in any run-of-the-mill thrash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlTRMq85NM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: nudiefish on September 27, 2012, 10:21:54 AM
Thanks for your encouraging comments guys - it really is helpful to get some feedback.  Being in something of a melodeon desert here I am learning on my own with the help of tutor books (assorted) so I am never sure if I am playing things right or not.     :||:

You did a very good job of it, very nice version too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: GuyWyatt on September 27, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
 http://youtu.be/-xhhW2AnsvA

I know some (Lester) grumble at what they regard as "dodgy made up B musics".  Personally, I like them sufficiently that I put in two different ones.

On a Castagnari Hascy D/G, played in E dorian.

Guy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: smiley on September 27, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
Here's my shot at TOTM. [...]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlTRMq85NM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Frank's brilliant contrapuntal arrangement deserves its own category: Fugue Of The Month
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Frank Lee on September 27, 2012, 02:07:49 PM
Here's my shot at TOTM. [...]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlTRMq85NM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Frank's brilliant contrapuntal arrangement deserves its own category: Fugue Of The Month

Aha!  So that's what it is, a fugue.  I looked it up and got:-

A polyphonic composition based upon one, two, or more themes, which are enunciated by several voices or parts in turn, subjected to contrapuntal treatment, and gradually built up into a complex form having somewhat distinct divisions or stages of development and a marked climax at the end.

Great!  Exactly what I had in mind! 

Thanks Smiley!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Peter Savage on September 27, 2012, 07:30:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlTRMq85NM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Frank - that was truly magnificent; thank you.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Ash on September 27, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
Here's my shot at TOTM.  Played here on a C/F box, mostly on the C row (D minor). 

Brilliant! I really enjoyed it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 27, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
Thanks for your encouraging comments guys - it really is helpful to get some feedback.  Being in something of a melodeon desert here I am learning on my own with the help of tutor books (assorted) so I am never sure if I am playing things right or not.     :||:

Nothing wrong with that. Practise and experience will help smooth out a few lumpy bits but the basics are already there, well done you!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Frank Lee on September 28, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
*** Newbie alert ***

OK, here's my first posting for TOTM. I've been playing for about five months now so time to take the plunge and post something so this is me playing for one whole minute, complete with muttering and bum notes.

Looks like you're building on a solid foundation there!  Can't hear the 'bum notes' or the muttering (and I can grunt with the best of 'em!).  MUCH better than my attempts at that stage.  I learnt, and am still learning by trial and error.  It's been a melodeon desert in North Cumbria for years.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on September 29, 2012, 09:49:47 PM
Yet another example of "dodgy made-up B-music" for Lester's growing collection. This particular bit I found among other printed music in my own handwriting, but I'm neither clever enough nor brash enough to have invented it. Anyone know where it came from?

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9H8Jb61Z4
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 29, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
Yet another example of "dodgy made-up B-music" for Lester's growing collection. This particular bit I found among other printed music in my own handwriting, but I'm neither clever enough nor brash enough to have invented it. Anyone know where it came from?

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9H8Jb61Z4

I don't think the B music is either dodgy or made up, just and octave lower than it is normally played, plus/minus a few variations upon the norm which is pretty standard in my experience.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Selam on September 30, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
Nearly missed it!!! A bit rushed and usual recording frustrations but here's my version. I've so many different B musics(?) going round my head I've no idea what I played....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwDx3tZegnc&feature=plcp

 :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: Clive Williams on October 01, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
Well done all - time to move to a new tune! As ever, late submissions are very welcome - just add them on here!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on June 15, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
So several years later here's a video
https://youtu.be/WQ1MTPCUy9U
I put on a nautical-ish outfit to play this one. Tries to ignore all the mistakes. :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: arty on June 15, 2015, 07:53:03 PM
So several years later here's a video
https://youtu.be/WQ1MTPCUy9U
I put on a nautical-ish outfit to play this one. Tries to ignore all the mistakes. :|bl

That's really good, I enjoyed that and what a lovely, bouncy tune. The mistakes don't matter at all, they will slowly disappear with practice. What does matter, is the rhythm and the feel of the music and you have that sorted really well. Tommy sounds good doesn't he?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for September 2012: Go and Enlist for a Sailor
Post by: ladydetemps on June 15, 2015, 10:23:22 PM
Oh, the tommy is fine...its me that struggles. ;)