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Title: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: 911377brian on January 27, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
The recent thread on the value of 'preloved' Castagnaris got me musing. I've got four Hohner 1040's, all pre 1949. I do'nt have a clue what these magic little boxes cost when new, but I paid arround the £200 mark for each of them, fully fettled and playing like a dream. So I've paid £200 for a 70 ish year old box that looks good for another 70 years. As thousands of them were made there must be loads on the market [except when I'm looking for one] so it's doubtful that the price is going to go up. This must be the greatest investment in a playable and sought after musical instrument ever..... (:) :||:
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: an bosca ceoil on January 27, 2013, 04:27:09 PM
They were round the £7.50 mark, new in the early fifties.
That equates to more than £200 today so maybe you have bought them at the right time.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: GPS on January 27, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
All the Hohners I currently own were bought 2nd (or 12th!) hand; the most I've ever paid for one was, if I recall correctly, about £80 for an 1140 in playing condition - mind you, this was a few years back - and the cheapest £40, about 18 months ago and sold for spares or repair (the latter, in my case).  I've no idea what any of these boxes would have cost fully fettled and ready to go, but I've had an enormous amount of pleasure from both resurrecting and playing them, and learned a great deal in the process. Money well spent for me, regardless of any market value.

Graham
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 01, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
My first Hohner Pokerwork ,bought from Bells Surbiton  in 1972 cost £60.00.
I was earning at that time about £14.00 Quid a week and as many of you know, it ended its life in the river Sid.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: 911377brian on February 01, 2013, 11:53:17 AM
 Well, it seems that they've given us great pleasure at a very modest cost. I bet the old boys who built them never dreamed that they would still be being played all these years later.. (:) :||: :||: :||:
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Adam-T on February 01, 2013, 11:58:27 AM
Lets face it, in the early 70s , most of us didn`t think there`d still be ford escorts still on the road in the 21st century let alone be playing meldeons made before WW2 .....

Back then, 21st century = Star ships and holidays on Mars, that may have been the case if the space program had progressed at the rate it was doing through the 50s, 60s and early 70s but it slowed to a standstill in that respect - too much time and money spent on the arms race :( . lets face it, all 40 years has added to the Melodeon is the FR18 , now that`s Sad..
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 01, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
Well, it seems that they've given us great pleasure at a very modest cost. I bet the old boys who built them never dreamed that they would still be being played all these years later.. (:) :||: :||: :||:

That is so true Brian. I have several "oldies" and I often wonder while playing them who the previous owners were, what were their lives like? And what a pity we can't communicate with them. I'm sure many boxes have amazing stories to tell, likewise their owners.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 01, 2013, 12:04:51 PM
Lets face it, in the early 70s , most of us didn`t think there`d still be ford escorts still on the road in the 21st century let alone be playing meldeons made before WW2 .....

Back then, 21st century = Star ships and holidays on Mars, that may have been the case if the space program had progressed at the rate it was doing through the 50s, 60s and early 70s but it slowed to a standstill in that respect - too much time and money spent on the arms race :( . lets face it, all 40 years has added to the Melodeon is the FR18 , now that`s Sad..

Adam! DO NOT KNOCK THE FR18 .IT'S JUST AN ELECTRONIC CHANSON ( I should know,I have one )
The above tongue in cheek of course.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Adam-T on February 01, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
Adam! DO NOT KNOCK THE FR18 .IT'S JUST AN ELECTRONIC CHANSON

AAAAAhhh, so that`s where Roland got the Stiff Bellows from  ;D
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: 911377brian on February 01, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Nick, I do'nt want to get all soppy about this but I really do feel in touch with the previous owners when I play my 1040's;and joking aside I often apologise to them when I cock up... :|bl :||:
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Rob2Hook on February 01, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Somebody referred to my Preciosa as having quite a strident voice...

What do you expect from a Nazi?

Rob.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 01, 2013, 10:03:10 PM
Somebody referred to my Preciosa as having quite a strident voice...

What do you expect from a Nazi?

Rob.
[/quote

I vas only obeying Hohners?
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Pete Dunk on February 02, 2013, 10:33:30 AM
We'll be starting a Hohnerowners Club next, with a secret handshake and everything . . .
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Bobtheboat on February 02, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
The first rule of Hohner club is that no-one talks about Hohner club! Bob.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Theo on February 02, 2013, 12:31:26 PM
It's going to be really easy to keep the secrecy, with Hohners being such quiet, reticent instruments.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Adam-T on February 02, 2013, 01:06:04 PM
There are two (unofficial of course) Hohner owners clubs already - Melnet (here) and Reyes Accordion Forum . one on each side of the pond  ;D .

As for Hohner clubs - there are thousands, Club-IIs, IIIs, Ouvertures, Morinos  ;D
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: AirTime on February 02, 2013, 03:59:30 PM
Quote
There are two (unofficial of course) Hohner owners clubs already - Melnet (here) and Reyes Accordion Forum . one on each side of the pond  ;D .

We Pre-War Hohner owners look down on the owners of late-model Hohners  ...  bunch of yuppies!   ;)
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: malcolmbebb on February 02, 2013, 04:19:57 PM
We'd need to check on ownership. Doesn't matter if you bought you Hohner or were given it, remember you'll be in good company:

Or:

We only want bona Hohner owners, we welcome donor Hohner owners, but there's no loner Hohner owners here.
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: GPS on February 02, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
We only want bona Hohner owners

Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy - what brings you trollin' in here........?   ;D ;D ;D

(Apologies to non-UK members, who will have absolutely NO idea what I'm talking about!)

Graham
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Adam-T on February 02, 2013, 08:42:36 PM
Well, I`m pretty well covered from the 1930s to 2009 in Hohner ages
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 02, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
We only want bona Hohner owners

Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy - what brings you trollin' in here........?   ;D ;D ;D

(Apologies to non-UK members, who will have absolutely NO idea what I'm talking about!)

Graham

Unfortunately, I do. Sunday mornings will never the same " ooh, went to the cottage last weekend, oh yes I love cottaging" and the BBC hasn't a clue what was going on. Not a Melodeon in sight, ducky.
Yeah! Bonar! Sorry meant Hohner
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Lester on February 03, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy - what brings you trollin' in here........?   ;D ;D ;D

(Apologies to non-UK members, who will have absolutely NO idea what I'm talking about!)

Graham

How bona to varda your dolly old eek!
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Anahata on February 03, 2013, 08:13:20 AM
Ooh! Isn't he bold!
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: malcolmbebb on February 03, 2013, 09:24:15 AM
Without having at the time the slightest ;D expectation of opening the floodgates, I must admit that the choice of phrase was not entirely unconnected with a particular radio programme.  ;D
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 03, 2013, 01:33:17 PM
Without having at the time the slightest ;D expectation of opening the floodgates, I must admit that the choice of phrase was not entirely unconnected with a particular radio programme.  ;D

Arh, remember it well, midday on Sunday, Around the Hohner with Kenneth Hohner followed closely by The Jimmy Treblerowe show. Then if you were lucky, an interview with Bonar Law or Gilbert Handy.
  Apologies to our foreign Bretheren. Who will wonder what the hell I'm on about.
In the evening on tele "the Black and White Melodeon show" Couldn't get away with that nowadays .
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: GPS on February 03, 2013, 04:55:24 PM
Without having at the time the slightest ;D expectation of opening the floodgates, I must admit that the choice of phrase was not entirely unconnected with a particular radio programme.  ;D

Arh, remember it well, midday on Sunday, Around the Hohner with Kenneth Hohner

That would be after the Billy Cairdin Band Show?
Title: Re: Value of pre war Hohners
Post by: dunlustin on May 05, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
While being a Hohner enthusiast (1930s club and a modern Merlin) I'd like to put in a word for the modern box market.
When starting out I had to look up the difference between melodeon and concertina, couldn't work out how Louis Killen played so fast and still had time to suck'n'blow and the choice was Hohner, Bell. P or V Soprani and nobody could tell you the difference. Price-wise Hohners seem about the same. Difference is you can get them tuned nowadays and you can choose wet/dry/damp/just a bit moist etc
Another plus is the range of high end boxes out there (Castelfidardo) and the many independent French makers who are very innovative and competitively priced. Given that in the late 70s the melodeon (2-row) in France was more a political statement than a musical instrument, they have come a very long way.

Access to melodeon music and learning materials is better than it has ever been not least with Youtube etc. And people can play better and are much more inquisitive.
On the subject of Roland V-accordions - I don't reckon Stratocasters will ever catch on.
 Finally, as for using steel instead of brass for accordion reeds well... but I don't suppose brass will ever make a comeback either.