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Title: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on November 01, 2013, 09:16:44 AM
A nice simple theme this month; play us a tune from where you're from, or where you live - tell us a little bit about it too and the connection if you can!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Lester on November 01, 2013, 09:25:53 AM
Aldbury May Tune (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/tune-245-aldbury-may-tune.html)

This is the tune for the Aldbury May Song which was collected in the village of Aldbury, the base of the morris team of which I am Bagman/Foreman. I believe it is a common enough tune for May songs in Beds/Bucks/Cambs but the words are specific to Aldbury and rather more christian than most plus it also gives slimming advice on the use of skimmed milk  (:)

Aldbury May Song
I’ve been wandering half the night
And the best part of the day
And now I am returning home again
And I’ve brought you a branch of may.

A branch of may I have brought you
And at your door it stands
It is nothing but a branch but it’s well budded out
By the mighty work of our Lord’s hands

And so begins the merry month of May
The bright time of the year
When Christ our saviour died for our sins
For he loved, he loved us dear

We come this morning to your door
To taste of your new milk
And if you haven’t got any new milk
We’ll be content with skim

We come this morning to your door
To taste of your strong beer
If you haven’t got any strong beer
We’ll be content with small

Now I have a purse in my pocket
And it’s drawn with a silken string
And all I want is a little silver
To line it well within

My song is done, I must be gone
No longer may I stay
So bless you all, both great and small
And I wish you a joyful May
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on November 03, 2013, 03:11:45 PM
A couple of songs sung in Suffolk. I usually sing Flash Company without accompaniment, and Perambulator is sometimes edited on the hoof for younger listeners of sensitive disposition. Both appear in Ginette Dunne's book and I have sung them at Butley Oyster and Blaxhall Ship occasionally down the years. (Butley is no longer an active singing pub, Blaxhall has been 'saved' by Terry Davey who has long supported local traditional music).

http://youtu.be/hvHHgydBfjA

Apologies for the camera angle but my default setting is headless!

Both slightly condensed for the benefit of those with YouTube ADD

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: robotmay on November 04, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
I'd love to be able to play a few Welsh tunes but they're pretty tricky to come by. Last time I saw S&B they'd managed to get access to a folk archive somewhere over here but I don't think any of it is available online yet. I have started going along to the Cardiff Morris though, so hopefully I'll be able to pick up a number of the ones they play.

They do however play a number of tunes from Adderbury, which is where I grew up, so I've been trying to learn a number of the tunes which are played in both places. I've spent the past couple of weeks trying to get the hang of the Adderbury minor version of Princess Royal (still plenty of mistakes and dodgy timing):

https://soundcloud.com/robotmay/princess-royal-adderbury
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Steve_freereeder on November 04, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
I'd love to be able to play a few Welsh tunes but they're pretty tricky to come by.
Two superb resources: Blodau'r Grug and Cadw Twmpath. I use them all the time.
Both available here (http://www.cerddystwyth.co.uk/music-shop/acatalog/Online_Shop_Folk___Instrumental_108.html), plus other stuff too.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Rees on November 04, 2013, 04:11:22 PM
Loads of Welsh tunes online here: http://www.meucymru.co.uk/music/Tunes/Tuneset.htm (http://www.meucymru.co.uk/music/Tunes/Tuneset.htm)
and here: http://www.docgrooms.com/corff.htm (http://www.docgrooms.com/corff.htm)

and many other places on the internet.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: zubz on November 04, 2013, 07:51:59 PM
I live between Adderbury and Bampton.
Bit of a fallow patch round here then.
Not sure I'll find anything.  :o
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Pete Dunk on November 04, 2013, 08:44:59 PM
I live between Adderbury and Bampton.
Bit of a fallow patch round here then.
Not sure I'll find anything.  :o

Lost cause mate, cultural desert! Move to Barnsley, far more culcha to be had there!!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: robotmay on November 04, 2013, 11:06:06 PM
I'd love to be able to play a few Welsh tunes but they're pretty tricky to come by.
Two superb resources: Blodau'r Grug and Cadw Twmpath. I use them all the time.
Both available here (http://www.cerddystwyth.co.uk/music-shop/acatalog/Online_Shop_Folk___Instrumental_108.html), plus other stuff too.
Loads of Welsh tunes online here: http://www.meucymru.co.uk/music/Tunes/Tuneset.htm (http://www.meucymru.co.uk/music/Tunes/Tuneset.htm)
and here: http://www.docgrooms.com/corff.htm (http://www.docgrooms.com/corff.htm)

and many other places on the internet.

Ooh thanks guys; I must admit that despite living here for 7 years I still know fewer than 5 Welsh words and really struggle to find many folk resources over here. Now to see if I can remember the names of some of the tunes I planned to learn  :||:
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on November 05, 2013, 12:43:28 AM
OK, quick recording session done, and here's the first of 2 recordings. A lovely slow air (or waltz, depending on who plays it!) written by the late John Close of Milton Keynes (which is where I live!). I knew John well; he was a fine singer, writer of some terrific songs, damn fine guitarist, and a pretty awful piano accordion player. And every now and then, he wrote tunes like this little gem, the Dark Hill. This still gets played quite a bit in sessions around here (in D usually), and if you start it up, you'd expect a good number of people to join in. So, ladies and gentlemen, The Dark Hill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVNCF8yStd0

Played on the Hohner Preciosa in Bb/Eb, still the box I pick up first out of choice because it's just wonderfully emotive at this sort of stuff.

Cheers,

Clive


Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: AirTime on November 05, 2013, 10:21:53 PM
Quote
Played on the Hohner Preciosa in Bb/Eb, still the box I pick up first out of choice because it's just wonderfully emotive at this sort of stuff.

Just wonderful, Clive. I always think the little BbEb Preccy (with a bit of sound editing, I assume) has a distinctly "brassy" sound - like a French Horn.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: sqwzboxstudent on November 07, 2013, 09:34:45 AM
Can i do a jimmy shand tune if its been sucked into the dartmoor tradition ?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: sqwzboxstudent on November 07, 2013, 11:28:36 AM
heres three waltz from down here, one from bob cann that im pretty sure he got from jimmy shand , the "gypsy waltz" from tom orchard, and " wager" which is a song his wife jean sings. im at home suffering with flu at the mo so please excuse the glazed look, im on another planet today !

http://youtu.be/a5_RuVTEooY
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Rees on November 07, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
heres three waltz from down here, one from bob cann that im pretty sure he got from jimmy shand , the "gypsy waltz" from tom orchard, and " wager" which is a song his wife jean sings. im at home suffering with flu at the mo so please excuse the glazed look, im on another planet today !

http://youtu.be/a5_RuVTEooY

Double glazed! Nice playing, Tommy.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Sandy on November 07, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
I wrote this tune in memory of Winnie Wyatt. She was the maid and companion of Janet Blunt. After Janet died, her family were going to burn the boxes of collected Adderbury music and dance notes. Winnie realised how important they were and saved them from the fire.
Adderbury's 'Sharp and Blunt' side lay flowers on the graves of Janet Blunt and Winnie Wyatt each year on their May dance day.

The tune is influenced by 'Sweet Jenny Jones'

https://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/winnie-wyatt

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Steve_freereeder on November 07, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I wrote this tune in memory of Winnie Wyatt. She was the maid and companion of Janet Blunt. After Janet died, her family were going to burn the boxes of collected Adderbury music and dance notes. Winnie realised how important they were and saved them from the fire.
Adderbury's 'Sharp and Blunt' side lay flowers on the graves of Janet Blunt and Winnie Wyatt each year on their May dance day.

The tune is influenced by 'Sweet Jenny Jones'

https://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/winnie-wyatt
Very nice, Sandy!
Beautiful tune, beautifully played, as always.  (:)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: forrest on November 07, 2013, 05:04:45 PM
A very sweet tune with an interesting provenance. Wonderful steadiness and lilt to your playing. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Mcgrooger on November 07, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
tune in memory of Winnie Wyatt.
Sandy
 (:)
Superb tune and playing!!  (:) (:)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: robotmay on November 08, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
I wrote this tune in memory of Winnie Wyatt. She was the maid and companion of Janet Blunt. After Janet died, her family were going to burn the boxes of collected Adderbury music and dance notes. Winnie realised how important they were and saved them from the fire.
Adderbury's 'Sharp and Blunt' side lay flowers on the graves of Janet Blunt and Winnie Wyatt each year on their May dance day.

The tune is influenced by 'Sweet Jenny Jones'

https://soundcloud.com/sandyshallis/winnie-wyatt

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

That's a lovely tune Sandy!
I danced for Adderbury when I was a teenager but unfortunately a lot of the history went over my head a bit at the time. I still make it back for the day of dance every year though!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Mary Humphreys on November 09, 2013, 11:00:23 PM
Here is a local Molly tune, Birds a-building. It was collected in Girton , Cambridgeshire by Needham & Peck in 1933 and was being used for a very simple Molly dance of the same name. It is still used by some Molly teams today. I am playing it in C, on a one-row melodeon. It is a lumpy old tune that seems to be made up of bits from other tunes
https://soundcloud.com/anahatamelodeon/birds-a-building
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Pete Dunk on November 09, 2013, 11:11:43 PM
It is a lumpy old tune that seems to be made up of bits from other tunes

It most certainly is but the name of the most obvious tune escapes me. Arrrrgggghhhh!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Mary Humphreys on November 09, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
Flowers of Edinburgh springs to mind.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Anahata on November 09, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
And another one from the same area, played by me this time:

https://soundcloud.com/anahatamelodeon/bob-ridley-o-1

One of 4 Molly tunes I've just recorded and put on CD for a school Molly team in Whittlesea, as their old practice tape has worn out after 17 years! Hence the 4 bar intro...

Edit to add: this one has bits of two other tunes in it: Shave the Donkey (or The Triumph) and Winster Gallop.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Ellisteph on November 24, 2013, 05:35:22 PM
This thread's gone a bit quiet; here's my attempt to revive it. My home town is blessed with two tunes called Nantwich Fair (albeit with different spellings). Both are in John Offord's excellent book 'John of the Green - the Cheshire Way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWCdQmsxh9Q&feature=c4-overview&list=UUdZHt0iER2BZXOlJxWwulBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJ4nk5KdwQ&feature=c4-overview&list=UUdZHt0iER2BZXOlJxWwulBA



Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: bellmartin on November 26, 2013, 01:47:07 AM
Here's my two-cents worth: The Old Red Barn Quadrille, a Missouri fiddle tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ_YjMbFOhw

The C and D music was written by Mid-Missouri fiddler Charlie Walden.

Played on a Dino Baffetti Binci 3-voice DG melodeon.

I did not know, before this Theme of the Month was posted, that my home state, Missouri, has a rich fiddle tradition. A lot of factors have influenced why Missouri has been so prolific in fiddle music and square dancing, whereas Kansas next door, for instance, has not. Scots and Ulster Scots who were not ashamed to raise a cup landed on good farmland in Missouri and produced generations of tunes and a strong dance (and party) tradition. People who moved on west, like many tee-total Germans, had tougher lives in a harsher climate, and this art did not flourish with them.

One influence on the development of Missouri fiddle tunes in relatively more recent generations was a Canadian radio station, the signal of which drifted all these hundreds and hundreds of miles and brought the sound of Scottish fiddle music, which players here added to their repertoire.

The fact that The Old Red Barn Quadrille is in 6/8 time makes it rather rare. Apparently Missouri fiddlers didn't much like "six-eighters" and neither did their guitarists, who found it quite awkward to do accompaniment patterns in 6/8.

It's been exciting to discover these things - thanks to Melnet for that. One of our top fiddlers, Michael Fraser, lives within a stone's throw of my house. Who knew? Gotta get to know him.

Lots to learn, and how fun!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: RogerT on November 26, 2013, 07:14:42 AM
Here's my two-cents worth: The Old Red Barn Quadrille, a Missouri fiddle tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ_YjMbFOhw

The C and D music was written by Mid-Missouri fiddler Charlie Walden.

Played on a Dino Baffetti Binci 3-voice DG melodeon.

I did not know, before this Theme of the Month was posted, that my home state, Missouri, has a rich fiddle tradition. A lot of factors have influenced why Missouri has been so prolific in fiddle music and square dancing, whereas Kansas next door, for instance, has not. Scots and Ulster Scots who were not ashamed to raise a cup landed on good farmland in Missouri and produced generations of tunes and a strong dance (and party) tradition. People who moved on west, like many tee-total Germans, had tougher lives in a harsher climate, and this art did not flourish with them.

One influence on the development of Missouri fiddle tunes in relatively more recent generations was a Canadian radio station, the signal of which drifted all these hundreds and hundreds of miles and brought the sound of Scottish fiddle music, which players here added to their repertoire.

The fact that The Old Red Barn Quadrille is in 6/8 time makes it rather rare. Apparently Missouri fiddlers didn't much like "six-eighters" and neither did their guitarists, who found it quite awkward to do accompaniment patterns in 6/8.

It's been exciting to discover these things - thanks to Melnet for that. One of our top fiddlers, Michael Fraser, lives within a stone's throw of my house. Who knew? Gotta get to know him.

Lots to learn, and how fun!

Hey Bellmartin, thanks. V interesting. I recently read the Dee Brown book about the American West (not Bury My Heart..the other one); where in Missouri, so I can take a look on Google Earth? And guitarists at my local Folk Club still have issues with 6/8 and even more so with 9/8..
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Mystery Jig on November 26, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
Here's my two-cents worth: The Old Red Barn Quadrille, a Missouri fiddle tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ_YjMbFOhw

The C and D music was written by Mid-Missouri fiddler Charlie Walden.

Played on a Dino Baffetti Binci 3-voice DG melodeon.

I did not know, before this Theme of the Month was posted, that my home state, Missouri, has a rich fiddle tradition. A lot of factors have influenced why Missouri has been so prolific in fiddle music and square dancing, whereas Kansas next door, for instance, has not. Scots and Ulster Scots who were not ashamed to raise a cup landed on good farmland in Missouri and produced generations of tunes and a strong dance (and party) tradition. People who moved on west, like many tee-total Germans, had tougher lives in a harsher climate, and this art did not flourish with them.

One influence on the development of Missouri fiddle tunes in relatively more recent generations was a Canadian radio station, the signal of which drifted all these hundreds and hundreds of miles and brought the sound of Scottish fiddle music, which players here added to their repertoire.

The fact that The Old Red Barn Quadrille is in 6/8 time makes it rather rare. Apparently Missouri fiddlers didn't much like "six-eighters" and neither did their guitarists, who found it quite awkward to do accompaniment patterns in 6/8.

It's been exciting to discover these things - thanks to Melnet for that. One of our top fiddlers, Michael Fraser, lives within a stone's throw of my house. Who knew? Gotta get to know him.

Lots to learn, and how fun!

Great tune, great playing, great box and a great story! Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Mcgrooger on November 30, 2013, 08:04:42 PM
Phew! Just in time!! :Ph
Two tunes which are local in different ways.
The first, She Wants a Fellow, is a traditional tune, a version of which is in the Browne Collection which was housed at Town End, Troutbeck, about a mile from where I live. It seems to originate with the Wilson family who lived at Troutbeck Bridge which is even nearer to here. There is a note in the manuscript referring to Kesswick, 1833 although it's not clear whether this is a reference to the town of Keswick a bit further North in Cumbria.
The second tune was written and paired with the first by my good friend and box player for our band Tumbling Tom, Hugh Taylor (of this parish). Hugh lives in Cumbria too but a bit nearer to the border with our shared county of origin, Lancashire. Hugh doesn't really think that his tune qualifies as a local tune but whether it does or not, I think it deserved an outing. The title refers to the groups of triplets and seems a good match for the first tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLCHrcI7Yw



Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Ellisteph on November 30, 2013, 11:02:56 PM
Phew! Just in time!! :Ph
Two tunes which are local in different ways.
The first, She Wants a Fellow, is a traditional tune, a version of which is in the Browne Collection which was housed at Town End, Troutbeck, about a mile from where I live. It seems to originate with the Wilson family who lived at Troutbeck Bridge which is even nearer to here. There is a note in the manuscript referring to Kesswick, 1833 although it's not clear whether this is a reference to the town of Keswick a bit further North in Cumbria.
The second tune was written and paired with the first by my good friend and box player for our band Tumbling Tom, Hugh Taylor (of this parish). Hugh lives in Cumbria too but a bit nearer to the border with our shared county of origin, Lancashire. Hugh doesn't really think that his tune qualifies as a local tune but whether it does or not, I think it deserved an outing. The title refers to the groups of triplets and seems a good match for the first tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLCHrcI7Yw

Excellent set well played as always
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for November 2013: Local Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2013, 12:44:19 AM
Well done folks - on to the next theme! Stick late posts on the end here as ever!