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Discussions => Tune of the Month => Topic started by: Clive Williams on March 01, 2014, 01:43:15 PM
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Oh, I'm glad this one won. This is a great tune, *very* well known in French music sessions (in the UK at least!), and if you think it's a little hackneyed... I would humbly suggest that you're not playing it right ;D (a bit like Speed the Plough in that regard I think).
Thanks to you Lester; your video and ABC on your tune a day page is perfect: http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/tune-191-schottische-virmoux.html . One thing though; Lester's written it down in G; whenever I've met it, it has been in D. Not that that matters in the least - you're very welcome to play it in any key you like... as I remember, it fits nicely on a one row, though you'd need to cross rows to get the chords in D (unless you have a G chord on the pull of course) if you're playing it on a D/G.
Happy playing/recording folks - this is a *happy* tune.
Cheers,
Clive
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This tune was collected from a Street Clarinetist, Bourges, Bourbonnais, Central France, some time in early 20th century. Fred Paris also plays it in G ... but on his kit that makes it an outer row fingering (ie D in a D/G), and that's how the sessions I get to play it.
In D (outer row) the fingering is very straightforward (possibly easier?) and you can also play the latter half of B music against a G (rather than D) chord. Fred chops fingers quickly to/fro between the rows (against either push chord) to good effect.
I can't find any YTube in D on melodeon - loads of PA, CBA, a dulcimer even!
Slowish version in D (on PA) is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLg4qYiS2xo
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Here's a couple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1DIkGL8GrM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZwq9NVnP4M
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[Corrected link]
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jack.I.Humphreys/FrenchBretonStreetdanceBristolSep2013?authuser=0&feat=directlink#5929165175024795906
At last, a TOTM I already know, and I think I'm playing it in D in this vid, on my DG Hascy.
We were playing and dancing for Bristol's" Make Sundays Special" when the Mayor closed a few streets. Certainly easier in D than in G.
When the great Giles Brown joins in with his PA, the music gets a lot more dancey somehow. Maybe he's giving the true value to the long notes while I have a habit of cutting them off short. Thanks to Simon W of this parish who pointed the camera. Lovely dancers of all ages aren't they!
More videos like this on our session website www.bathfrenchsession.wordpress.com
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https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/c8PtxJxBzEXct4loYn9cUdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
At last, a TOTM I already know, and I think I'm playing it in D in this vid, on my DG Hascy.
We were playing and dancing for Bristol's" Make Sundays Special" when the Mayor closed a few streets. Certainly easier in D than in G.
When the great Giles Brown joins in with his PA, the music gets a lot more dancey somehow. Maybe he's giving the true value to the long notes while I have a habit of cutting them off short. Thanks to Simon W of this parish who pointed the camera. Lovely dancers of all ages aren't they!
More videos like this on our session website www.bathfrenchsession.wordpress.com
Appears to be just a picture rather than a video ?? :-\
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Thanks Lester
Try this one
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jack.I.Humphreys/FrenchBretonStreetdanceBristolSep2013?authuser=0&feat=directlink#5929165175024795906
I'll also change the earlier post.
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That one still seems to be a photo.
Also, thanks to boxcall for posting a link to one I'd done earlier. I'd forgotten I did that and was preparing to do another. I don't think I'll bother now!
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That one still seems to be a photo.
Works for me ;)
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http://youtu.be/lvOMc61wGXk
All the best
Bill
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That one still seems to be a photo.
Works for me ;)
Works on a real computer, not on my new Android tablet with Google Chrome Browser. ???
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That one still seems to be a photo.
Also, thanks to boxcall for posting a link to one I'd done earlier. I'd forgotten I did that and was preparing to do another. I don't think I'll bother now!
you could always do a one row version and sorry if I jumped the gun on you.
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Here's the ABC in D for anyone who wants it. Alter the Q: value to a speed that suits you!
X:125
T:Schottische a Virmoux
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/2=85
K:Dmaj
FAGF A3 F|GFGA B2 A2|AdAF G2 FE|FAFD E4|
FAGF A3 F|GFGA B2 A2|AdAF G2 FE|DAGF D4:|
d2 A2 d3 c|BABc dedB|A2 D2 A2 GF|EFGA BABc|
d2 A2 d3 c|BABc dedB|A2 D2 A2 GF|EFGA D4:|
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you could always do a one row version and sorry if I jumped the gun on you.
Not at all, you saved me a lot of trouble and embarrassment (:)
Yes, I suppose I could do a one row version...
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I came across this one, really nice!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPPRBG1K21I
enjoy
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A recycled recording of this lovely tune, here followed by Mominette, played on my CF Liliput
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkBUU2rKKWE
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A rather rough and ready version here, played on my Castagnari Hascy D/G:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn2dXqp5yBI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn2dXqp5yBI)
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Also, thanks to boxcall for posting a link to one I'd done earlier. I'd forgotten I did that and was preparing to do another. I don't think I'll bother now!
It's hard to see how that one could be improved on. Rocksolid rhythm, beautiful fluency and separation of notes, and some interesting extra bass notes. Gives the rest of us somewhere to aim at. Thanks for all your videos, Anahata. :|glug
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I decided to go for 3 different sound textures hence have played the tune in G on a Dino Baffetti Carnival II, in D on an AD Hohner Erica and in G again on a Castagnari Tommy using its LMM reed setting.
http://youtu.be/v8FE6vDdIY0
(As an aside, I have just put the Baffetti up for sale on melnet (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php?topic=14305.msg176671#msg176671).)
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I decided to go for 3 different sound textures hence have played the tune in G on a Dino Baffetti Carnival II, in D on an AD Hohner Erica and in G again on a Castagnari Tommy using its LMM reed setting.
http://youtu.be/v8FE6vDdIY0
(As an aside, I have just put the Baffetti up for sale on melnet (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php?topic=14305.msg176671#msg176671).)
Interesting because of the direct comparison between boxes. The Tommy sounds great.
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http://soundcloud.com/kevin-holland-7/schottisch-a-vermoux/s-VSi2B
Complete with fluffs, but I am recovering from pneumonia, and buying yet another box.....
;)
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Here's my version on the C row of a Gaillard in G/C.
http://youtu.be/R6Y5MvdS3eg (http://youtu.be/R6Y5MvdS3eg)
Howard
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This d&mn tune won't leave my ears !!!
Another version on my Hohner Ouverture IV. First time through is with the 'musette' voice, with two reeds out of pitch, one high and one low. Second time adds in the low voice to the musette, the 'French' setting ! The other times through use different settings again. Sorry for the pause to push the button in ! ;)
http://youtu.be/NayKr00My-c
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Here's my version on the C row of a Gaillard in G/C.
Delightful bounce, very well played and a fun version of the tune
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This d&mn tune won't leave my ears !!!
Another version on my Hohner Ouverture IV. First time through is with the 'musette' voice, with two reeds out of pitch, one high and one low. Second time adds in the low voice to the musette, the 'French' setting ! The other times through use different settings again. Sorry for the pause to push the button in ! ;)
http://youtu.be/NayKr00My-c
Forgive me pikey but this box really doesn't compliment your (excellent) style of playing. 'tis too smooth, has too many voices and is overly complex for your direct and uncompromising delivery of a tune. Oh s*it did i really say that? :o
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I will take that as a complement (:)
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Delightful bounce, very well played and a fun version of the tune
Well, thank you.
I seem to have pickup up a "dislike" for this one on youtube. Each to their own
Howard
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I seem to have pickup up a "dislike" for this one on youtube.
You know you've made it on Youtube when someone is jealous enough to dislike a perfectly good post and isn't brave enough to leave a comment and explain why they dislike your video so much. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it if I were you!
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Here we are folks - my take on this tune, which I remember learning from Simon Moore and Ravi Sawney's On Bouge tunebooks around 1996 ish. Anyone else remember those books? No great art here - simply up and down the D row with gusto. Played on the Castagnari Mory in D/G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgWVJXhzy8
Cheers,
Clive
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.No great art here - simply up and down the D row with gusto.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgWVJXhzy8
Cheers,
Clive
But you can't help putting in those touches of special Clive artistry... such as those touches of B minor chords in a jolly major tune - no one else has gone there that i've heard. Thanks.
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Absolutely gorgeous
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In reference to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZwq9NVnP4M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZwq9NVnP4M)
... Yes, I suppose I could do a one row version...
I've been studying your two row version and marveling at the bass line, which reminds me of a tuba now and then with those low sustained notes. Is part of the technique to use row crossing so as to avoid changing directions while playing a sustained bass against the right hand run? Or would a one row version have the same bass?
The video shows your fingers dancing around but I can't tell what you are doing. Should you wish to post a hint or two about how you make that happen, I would be all ears.
Doc
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I wasn't sure what you meant at first and had to watch the video again.
I think you've got it - row crossing.
In many places, I hold the bass a little longer than you might expect because I'm playing at least two notes in the same direction, including times when that means crossing rows.
I have to be careful not to run too many notes all in the same direction, or the tune turns to mush. Also, even though I'm playing two notes in a row both push or both pull, I'm often leaving some space between them (by finger articulation) so there's a mixture of smooth and bouncy going on all through the tune.
This is all getting very analytical...
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Well, it is an effective technique, no mush at all.
It really sounds as if there is a third instrument in your band: right hand, left hand and that bass that I'm shamelessly trying to imitate. As you say there is a lot of articulation, so I'm finding it a steep hill to climb. Thanks for posting the original video and for commenting on your approach.
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I seem to have pickup up a "dislike" for this one on youtube. Each to their own
Howard
I actually think it's easy to hit the dislike button by mistake, especially if not using mouse. Can't see how one can dislike otherwise.
Sandy
:)
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I'm not actually playing in this video, but I dance and play with Maple Morris and we've been using this tune for our signature dance for a while now.
Here is a video of it from our LNE spot at Sidmouth in 2011
http://youtu.be/gxZGX8H24oM?t=35s
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Simple one row "D" version. Played on a Salterelle Berry ..... which just happens to be for sale! (see Buy and Sell)
http://soundcloud.com/tuftyabc/schottische-a-virmoux-berry
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Here's my go for this month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2tN_PqsL8
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https://soundcloud.com/wedgy-mcdustbinlid/scottish-a-virmoux-tiroulette
my effort for this month, quicker to learn than some TOTM!
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A real pleasure to listen to. Thanks Francois.
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Oh joy! Oh bliss! Totally playable on a one row! (Except I can't get the basses right) Foul Weather Call is still hurting my brain..... as for you getting a thumbs down on youtube Howard...I'd donate a kidney to be able to play like that .... :||: :Ph
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Cheers Jack See you at Wantage this year ?
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This time played on my new MAD acquisition - Hermann the Geipel melodeon, in Bb
http://youtu.be/6AR81xJtREI
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
Very interesting version Ricardo - may I describe it as 'somber?' Keeps a good slow pace. I would have speeded up because I'm impatient by nature. Don't understand what a G/G accordion is - can you elaborate?
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
Very interesting version Ricardo - may I describe it as 'somber?' Keeps a good slow pace. I would have speeded up because I'm impatient by nature. Don't understand what a G/G accordion is - can you elaborate?
Oh, I meant G/C, of course. Meanwhile i've corrected it. Thanks for pulling my attention to it!
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/G.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
Very interesting version Ricardo - may I describe it as 'somber?' Keeps a good slow pace. I would have speeded up because I'm impatient by nature. Don't understand what a G/G accordion is - can you elaborate?
Oh, I meant G/C, of course. Meanwhile i've corrected it. Thanks for pulling my attention to it!
Ah ha that's ok then. I thought there must be another system out there I hadn't heard of!
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This time played on my new MAD acquisition - Hermann the Geipel melodeon, in Bb
http://youtu.be/6AR81xJtREI
Great one row version. Is the instrument still with the club tuning?
Greetings,
Ricardo
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Thanks, and Yes, it's the original club tuning. It's unrestored !
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Thanks, and Yes, it's the original club tuning. It's unrestored !
That's great, the club system has its oddities but it's also full of possibilities. Does it has any registers combination or is it you that goes adding new lower voices throughout the playing?
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See my post in the Instruments forum for details and photos for the Geipel.
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See my post in the Instruments forum for details and photos for the Geipel.
Yes, i came across with it last night and realized most of my questions were answered there. Cheers!
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
Fine playing, it's unusual to see a G/C played in the lower octave so much which helps to set the largely dark mood which is suddenly relieved by a jaunty change at around 2.20 in before reverting once again to the sombre tones that set the feel of the whole piece. It will be added to my favourites and studied in great detail! I'm surprised by the light swing tuning of your box too, I'm not used to hearing a G/C with such a dry voicing.
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It's with great honour and pleasure that i share my first video for the Tune of the Month. :||:
I'm playing the tune in G, with a slightly slower tempo using my Tania Rutkowski accordion in G/C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT1XoosXwg)
Fine playing, it's unusual to see a G/C played in the lower octave so much which helps to set the largely dark mood which is suddenly relieved by a jaunty change at around 2.20 in before reverting once again to the sombre tones that set the feel of the whole piece. It will be added to my favourites and studied in great detail! I'm surprised by the light swing tuning of your box too, I'm not used to hearing a G/C with such a dry voicing.
Thank you so much for the comments and the detailed analysis. In fact, the box was dry tuned , which i requested to the builder Tania Rutkowski. http://www.tr-accordeons.com/les-modeles/les-diatoniques.html (http://www.tr-accordeons.com/les-modeles/les-diatoniques.html) (now, after much use it starts to have a slight swing in some of the notes) Greetings, Ricardo.
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superb version. nice one. Your bass playing is amazing.
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superb version. nice one. Your bass playing is amazing.
I feel honoured with that comment from such an expert! Greetings.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPGP4lTVqO8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPGP4lTVqO8)
For me, this was a fun TOTM with lots of marvelous examples to try to incorporate. A special thanks to Anahata for inspiring me to venture into other than oom-pah land and linger on a bass button now and then.
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inspiring me to venture into other than oom-pah land and linger on a bass button now and then.
Whether or not it had anything to do with that, it had lots of dance in it. Lovely!
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A fleeting glance against tune of the month
http://youtu.be/bA6mq217pXE
Andy
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http://youtu.be/3NtgLU-ovWk
I've been in bed with coldy virus, so a bit basic this month.
Thanks to TOTM I realise that I've been playing the first note wrong for years: (should be a doh, not a me.)
The first time through, I'm playing what I remember as F.Paris's chords: in the B music
[DG speak] D --- G --- G --- A --- So there's a nice clash when the G stays put for the next bar, when we might expect another D. Then I tried out a Bm Em bassline, inspired by Clive.
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This is a tune I haven't played for ages. I originally learned it at French music session at the Nottingham Playhouse basement bar around 1990 ( possibly )
Fun to have a go at it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myDkR85CnGQ&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myDkR85CnGQ&feature=youtu.be)
Alan :||:
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This time played on the Dino Binci special.
http://youtu.be/Qi2u1gZMxUM
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And on the four stop, with comments by Woody.... ;)
http://youtu.be/RhQIf9RLaZc
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That's AMAZING Pikey!
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Here's my rather pedestrian version, played on my lovely Liliput conversion. I haven't really got to grips with the box yet as I only picked it up from Lester on Thursday afternoon but I'm thoroughly enjoying getting my fat hands used to those those tiny buttons (:)
New Year's Boxolution to do TOTM each month, 3 out of 3 so far *phew*
Schottische a Virmoux (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHoog_P04mI)
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Nice one !
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Nearly ran out of time this month, and I had the same New Year's resolution Helena (:).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdGcuN5fNSI&feature=youtu.be
I'm not using nearly enough of the bellows - what's the point of having a full set of bellows if I only use a quarter of them ::).
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I'm not using nearly enough of the bellows - what's the point of having a full set of bellows if I only use a quarter of them ::).
It worked for Bob Cann!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdGcuN5fNSI&feature=youtu.be
I'm not using nearly enough of the bellows - what's the point of having a full set of bellows if I only use a quarter of them ::).
Nicely played! Your bellows use is fine. You don't have to make huge bellows movements unless you are really going for loud passages on a single bellows direction. You have an excellent instrument with reeds which respond beautifully, so you can easily be economical with the amount of bellows extension which you use.
However, what I do notice from your Youtube video is that the melody end of the instrument often moves around a lot when you are making rapid bellows changes. That means energy is being wasted - instead of pushing air through the reeds, it's being used to wobble the end around. You can hear that when you occasionally momentarily lose the sound on a bellows direction change.
It's not ever so bad - I've seen a lot worse - but if you can reduce the wobble, possibly by adjusting your straps and the angle of holding the instrument, your playing will instantly become cleaner. I note that you are playing standing up and that's fine, but it makes it even more critical to get the RH end stability right. As an experiment try playing sitting down with crossed legs and jambing the RH end in the crook of your knee/thigh to increase the rigidity. You should be able to notice the difference in the way the notes speak on the bellows changes. For standing up, you might want to experiment with a 'droopy' position - see my avatar picture. This helps because gravity is assisting you keeping the RH end steady.
Hope these suggestions help and that you don't mind my critical observations.
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Thank you - I don't mind critical observations at all, any suggestions are a big help (:).
I don't know whether I've got more wobble now because I was trying for a while to convert to playing with one strap, but just couldn't get the hang of it - it's OK when sitting down, but the whole box seemed to get away from me when standing up. I tried the 'droopy' position, but it just felt too loose, and realised that maybe I'm too much of a control freak to play in such a relaxed style.
So after all that I don't think I now have the straps set right for playing with two. This strap thing is more complicated than it first appears!
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http://youtu.be/AVsg6EyxHwU (http://youtu.be/AVsg6EyxHwU)
Here's my sloppy last minute entry and my first TOTM for some while. Played in Bb on a beige Hohner Liliput, declubbed treble end, Bb/Eb, tuned to perfection last year by Martyn White.
Sorry the picture is very dark. I blame the excitement over the light evenings. As soon as the lights were switched on it wasn't happening I'm afraid. Hopefully the audio should do the Liliput justice though.
Steve
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Well done folks; end of the month so time to move on - please put late entries onto the end of this thread as usual.
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Wait! It's not midnight here in Maine yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOF7EG_KZ6s&feature=share&list=UULnN5hkNkpCDBiHiK6n9wAQ
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Bravo, MJ!
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Bravo, MJ!
Thanks!
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yes nice one MJ
the Beltuna sounds good.
here my lame attempt at this one . 11:22 here in mass. so I guess it's still on time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHHS022dyg&list=UUG5npaukzvO6Oh6WhgEvsNw
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yes nice one MJ
the Beltuna sounds good.
here my lame attempt at this one . 11:22 here in mass. so I guess it's still on time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuHHS022dyg&list=UUG5npaukzvO6Oh6WhgEvsNw
Thanks! Your attempt is not lame at all. Sounds good and completely appropriate for almost midnight. Both Gary and I are jones-ing for a one-row. What flavor is yours?
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Thanks, a couple of spots are giving me trouble as you can see. it's a nice tune though!
I hope that wasn't an april fools joke ;D
My one row is a Beltuna in D and I was playing it with the middle tremolo reed off so "dry".
where in maine are you? I have a lot of family up that way Bowdoin and Camden area.
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Thanks, a couple of spots are giving me trouble as you can see. it's a nice tune though!
I hope that wasn't an april fools joke ;D
My one row is a Beltuna in D and I was playing it with the middle tremolo reed off so "dry".
where in maine are you? I have a lot of family up that way Bowdoin and Camden area.
Ooo! Beltuna! Like to take that for a spin. I'm in the mysterious heart of downtown Portland. I'm quite familiar with Bowdoin. My old job took me there on a regular basis.
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Next time I come up that way I'll look you up , and you can have a go.
pm me with your name and number.
Michael
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https://youtu.be/9kZQfLFdR-Q
Schottische à Virmoux & Canal en Octobre. Both lovely tunes.