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Title: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Clive Williams on May 31, 2014, 10:44:40 PM
I trust you'll forgive me calling time on the vote an hour early or so, but I think it's pretty clear who the winner is, don't you? I'm *so* glad this one won; it's an absolute cracker. A tune which I hadn't heard before Squeezy and Jon made it a core part of one of their sets, but I've always assumed it was traditional, isn't it? Does anyone know where it comes from?

It's a straight up and down the G row tune this; no tricks or clever fingering needed; just set it running, and *feel* it!

Happy playing!

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Lester on May 31, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/tune-326-jack-robinson.html (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/tune-326-jack-robinson.html)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Clive Williams on May 31, 2014, 10:48:45 PM
And there we have it; demo video, abc notation and notes on the tune origin all in one little link! Thanks Lester - you're a treasure!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: pikey on June 01, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
Some of us played it long before that famous duo played it a tad faster than I prefer ... ;)

I learned it from the ECMW sessions way back in 1978.

Here's my version

https://soundcloud.com/kevin-holland-7/a-tune
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on June 01, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
http://youtu.be/qvWPSdNeoWY

A couple of versions, C one row and D/G three voice, Hohners.

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: robotmay on June 01, 2014, 12:03:27 PM
Hurrah, a tune I actually haven't found too tricky to learn. I may have cheated and practiced/recorded a version a couple of days ago as I saw it was very likely to win. I'm going to keep practicing it this month and see how much I can improve it before doing a video, but here's my current version:

https://soundcloud.com/robotmay/jack-robinson
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: howard mitchell on June 01, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
Another bit of origins -

The tune Jack O'Robinson, notated as a hornpipe, is in the Clive Carey manuscripts in The Full English archive.
 http://www.vwml.org/record/CC/1/527 (http://www.vwml.org/record/CC/1/527)

It as collected from William Lemming in Terwick, Sussex in 1911.

I've attached my transcription from that source.

Clearly the same tune as the polka version attributed to William Tilbury in Surrey.

Mitch




Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: penn on June 01, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
Aha! I'd learnt this prematurely a few months ago when I was convinced it had to be chosen for the Totm - what a jolly tune.
Played in my usual sloppy fashion in Eb on a Liliput, which is clearly way too small for my sausage fingers.

http://youtu.be/CAtcWqHHIA8 (http://youtu.be/CAtcWqHHIA8)

I seemed to have picked up an accidental hop across to the D/Bb row in bar 4 - I thought I'd been following Lester's version but  suppose it must have come from an ABC I downloaded.

Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Anahata on June 01, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Here's one I did earlier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ-roEdB43c)
complete with source info as well.

There may be another version in the pipeline, of the same two tunes played by my band...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Lester on June 02, 2014, 08:26:28 AM
Jack Robinson as a jig (https://soundcloud.com/alison-10/jack-robinson-jig)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Andrew Wigglesworth on June 02, 2014, 11:16:39 AM
As per the admonition on another thread about just recording stuff, posting it and not looking (listening) back ... here is a recording caught "in the wild" this morning.

Jackie Robinson's (http://www.andrew-wigglesworth.co.uk/files/melnet/2014/02-06-14-jackie-robinsons.ogg)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: baz parkes on June 02, 2014, 01:19:51 PM
A tune which I hadn't heard before
Clive

IIRC it entered the English revival repertoire (like so much else...) after it appered on Old Swan's No Reels....may be wrong, vinyl is packed away somewhere.

Cracking tune no matter from whence it came...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: GPS on June 02, 2014, 01:51:08 PM
Close, Baz; it was on Old Swan Brand.  ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: 911377brian on June 02, 2014, 08:16:49 PM
Folkbluesnbeyond...lovely to hear it on a one row, it's given me the courage to give it a whirl on my new organetto in D. Practically broke me in half  trying to learn last months 'When the king comes to his own again' on it.....and I failed  :||: :|bl :Ph :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: howard mitchell on June 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
Here's a quick recording of Jack O'Robinson from the Clive Carey manuscripts in The Full English archive.
http://www.vwml.org/record/CC/1/527

http://youtu.be/9SBBur0SoOE (http://youtu.be/9SBBur0SoOE)

It's in G rather than the original C and there's quite a bit of key clatter probably due to a hastily positioned microphone.


Mitch

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: RogerT on June 11, 2014, 06:57:15 AM
Rather nice box, Mitch. Can't quite make out what make...?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: robotmay on June 11, 2014, 08:43:40 AM
I think it's a Saltarelle Pastourelle III, Roger, if I remember correctly from watching Mitch's other videos :)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: howard mitchell on June 11, 2014, 09:26:02 AM
I think it's a Saltarelle Pastourelle III, Roger, if I remember correctly from watching Mitch's other videos :)

Sorry, I didn't put titles on the video.  Yes it's a Saltarelle Pastourelle III in D/G.  Here played with all 3 reeds on and thirds out on the left hand.  It's recently been tuned by Theo of this parish.

Mitch

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Sebastian on June 11, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
http://youtu.be/qvWPSdNeoWY

A couple of versions, C one row and D/G three voice, Hohners.
Lovely playing on the two-row Hohner!  :||: ;D

Edit to add my try:

https://soundcloud.com/weltsauerstoff/jack-robinson
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 14, 2014, 09:27:12 PM
Jack Robinson (http://youtu.be/8TQiJGoB84k) played on a D/G Liliput by me. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 15, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
Inspired to have a go, this is my second Tune of the Month post. Any helpful criticism welcome. I have done quite a lot of row crossing, so it is not as bouncy as some already posted, also, it could be faster I think. But, what the heck, I'm really pleased with my progress - loving it!!!     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAfjqKR-IcE
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 15, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Speed will come with practice, I think that was well played and the steady tempo allows other players to see what you are doing and perhaps learn something from your way of playing.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Sebastian on June 15, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
it could be faster I think.
I have the advantage not to know the tunes of the month beforhand, and I normally play them from the musical notation prior to listening to recordings. So I though this one had to be played in just the pace you chose. ;D

I'm afraid I played it even slower.  :||: :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Bob Ellis on June 15, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
I though this one had to be played in just the pace you chose. ;D

I couldn't agree more. Play it at the pace that feels and sounds right to you.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Clive Williams on June 15, 2014, 11:19:03 PM
Here we go folks - a quick stab on this from me

http://youtu.be/QeNnMze7lPg

Played in G on a newly converted Hohner Lucia (similar to Squeezy's, but different accidental row). It's a learning experience on this box, and I'm getting better, but I still won't think I've arrived fully with it until I've got the bass at least as comfortable as it is on other boxes. Coming along nicely now though.

I seem to have a slight recording glitch going on; sorry about that. I have to say the box sounds a *lot* lighter and more dynamic in real life than it does in this recording; I'll have to try recording another box or two and see if I can figure out where the loss in quality is.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: nigelr on June 20, 2014, 05:55:22 PM
My first current tune of the month!

Having been inspired by Helena and Arty's great versions, I decided (rashly perhaps) to have a stab at this one.  Here it is, bum notes and all...

http://youtu.be/Q56sa5lvHs4

Thanks have to go to MelonBox for the last few lessons that have gone a long way to giving me the confidence to have a go.

N (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 20, 2014, 07:50:28 PM
My first current tune of the month!

Having been inspired by Helena and Arty's great versions, I decided (rashly perhaps) to have a stab at this one.  Here it is, bum notes and all...

http://youtu.be/Q56sa5lvHs4

Thanks have to go to MelonBox for the last few lessons that have gone a long way to giving me the confidence to have a go.

N (:)

Brilliant - well done!!! Posting your first recording takes a bit of courage doesn't it? We must try and take part in the tune of the month as often as we are able. It is a really good thing to do and of course it pushes you to learn more as well as increasing your confidence levels. I wish more of the more experienced players took part in this - listening to them is also part of the learning process.

Keep it up Nigel - interestingly, it was listening to Helena's recording that inspired me to have a go. We three should stick together!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Bob Ellis on June 20, 2014, 08:34:44 PM
Well done, Nigel and Arty. Although quite different, both interpretations were impressive, Arty's being gentle and melodic, and Nigel's being more rhythmic. I look forward to hearing more from both of you.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: RogerT on June 21, 2014, 06:43:01 AM
Here we go folks - a quick stab on this from me

http://youtu.be/QeNnMze7lPg

Played in G on a newly converted Hohner Lucia (similar to Squeezy's, but different accidental row). It's a learning experience on this box, and I'm getting better, but I still won't think I've arrived fully with it until I've got the bass at least as comfortable as it is on other boxes. Coming along nicely now though.

I seem to have a slight recording glitch going on; sorry about that. I have to say the box sounds a *lot* lighter and more dynamic in real life than it does in this recording; I'll have to try recording another box or two and see if I can figure out where the loss in quality is.

Cheers,

Clive
Nice box... Recording sounds ok to me..
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 22, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Nice one Nigel and Arty, well done both  (:)  It can be a bit daunting posting in ToTM given the standard of some of the players who frequent this forum I've chickened out of posting a few times. I'm going to keep pushing on though, the focus needed to get a tune ready to record has proved useful to my development as a player plus the helpful comments and encouragement from the experienced members of the forum really, really do help.

It's nice to see postings from the beginner/intermediate players as well as the experienced ones.  ToTM seems to be tailing off a bit and I think that's a shame.  Come on fellow melnutters, more ToTM postings please  :||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 22, 2014, 02:15:54 PM

It's nice to see postings from the beginner/intermediate players as well as the experienced ones.  ToTM seems to be tailing off a bit and I think that's a shame.  Come on fellow melnutters, more ToTM postings please  :||:

Well said Helena!!!
For me, it's a shame that there are so many posts about the different types of boxes and the mechanics of them at the moment and a lot less about the wonderful music these boxes can play.
MORE ToTM POSTINGS PLEASE!!!  :||: :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Clive Williams on June 22, 2014, 02:26:04 PM
Amen - keep 'em coming! It's very encouraging to ser how people's playing develops over several months/years of totm contribs!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: nigelr on June 22, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
It's nice to see postings from the beginner/intermediate players as well as the experienced ones.  ToTM seems to be tailing off a bit and I think that's a shame.  Come on fellow melnutters, more ToTM postings please  :||:
Many thanks, Helena.  Your sentiments are echoed from here as well!  Also, I think Pete Dunk over in another part of the forum has hit the nail on the head:
I don't know if it's been suggested before but I'd like to nominate The Sussex Waltz. It's a lovely tune that sounds pretty in it's simplest form but it leaves a lot of scope for the more advanced players to get stuck into.
Having posted a few videos here before over the last few months, I have been waiting since April to have a ToTM that I can contribute to.  It's all very well if you can play in 13/8 time or if your box allows you to play a Bbmaj7-9, but that doesn't always make for good "tunes".  I went to a workshop with Simon Care yesterday and he played Shepherds Hey and Buttered Peas in ways that I have never heard before - proving the point that even the simplest of tunes offer huge scope for all concerned (IMHO).
I too have noticed a tailing off of ToTM posts and I think this is a direct result of the level of complexity.  Perhaps we should consider this to be an "online session" i.e. the goal is not for it to be a solo performance, but one in which as many people as possible can contribute, whatever their level of competency.  N
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 22, 2014, 06:36:59 PM
Well said Nigel!
I agree entirely - that's why I have just suggested 'Flowers of Edinburgh' as a future tune of the month. In it's basic written form it is very beautiful and not too hard to have a stab at but it can also be played in an enhanced, incredible way as so ably demonstrated by Ukebert. Obviously lots of scope with that tune.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Peter Savage on June 26, 2014, 07:36:33 AM
Here is my contribution for this month: http://youtu.be/anB2sYRG0_s

Played on a Hohner Club I in Bb/Eb.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 26, 2014, 10:30:35 AM
Here is my contribution for this month: http://youtu.be/anB2sYRG0_s

Played on a Hohner Club I in Bb/Eb.

Great stuff!!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: AndyShear on June 26, 2014, 07:25:33 PM
And another

http://youtu.be/sTajBfTpJcc

Andy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: AndyShear on June 26, 2014, 08:15:52 PM
Arr  this is more ......

http://youtu.be/u-dGHFxK9oE

Andy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Spikey on June 27, 2014, 02:20:28 AM
Prompted by Helena (thank you (:)), this is my go at Jack Robinson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtmTYrR6fCE&feature=youtu.be

On my old Pressed Wood C/F, with a leather belt to keep the bellows shut, and a lovely smell of old tobacco - reminds me of UK pubs in the olden days...

I had chickened out of TOTM last month after my ambitious New Year Resolution, but Helena is right - just having to get used to playing despite the heeby jeebies that set in when you press the record button, is very useful.  It certainly helped when put on the spot at Morris practice when no one else knew the tune.  So, despite the 'oh crikey it sounds awful' when you listen back to yourself, I'm sure it's doing some good.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: nigelr on June 27, 2014, 08:12:47 AM
So, despite the 'oh crikey it sounds awful' when you listen back to yourself, I'm sure it's doing some good.
Not awful at all - very nice indeed.  I like the bounce in the rhythm (:) N
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 27, 2014, 09:52:19 AM
So, despite the 'oh crikey it sounds awful' when you listen back to yourself, I'm sure it's doing some good.
Not awful at all - very nice indeed.  I like the bounce in the rhythm (:) N

Agreed, nice bounce and rhythm and a lovely sounding box. Thanks for posting  (:)

This has reminded me of two things: a) I play this tune too fast and b) I've got a lovely old C/F Hohner too (funny that).

I think it's time to dig out the ol' C/F and give it a blast.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: arty on June 27, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Well done Spikey! And yes, I agree with everything Helena said  (:)
I think we 'less confident' players are taking over!!! Lets keep the momentum going, we are all benefitting from each other. :||: I too have a Pre Pokerwork C/F that I don't play very often, I must get it out of the box - what a shame that some of us have to work!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Spikey on June 27, 2014, 09:24:41 PM
Thank you Nigel, Helena and Arty (:)

Even though my Baffetti is always the box I reach for first, I keep all ('only' 4, so not too MAD afflicted) my boxes out on the piano and the bookshelf so that they are ready to hand.  Mind you, I get very cross when anyone else in the family leaves stuff lying around.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Lonnie on June 28, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
Gerday All,

And here's my effort - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwa2AkyRjs

Didn't quite get up to having any bass, but am still very happy with my progress over the past few weeks.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: troman on June 28, 2014, 03:47:57 PM
My very first TotM contribution.

http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00 (http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00)

Too slow and not accurate but after several aborted attempts the best I could manage. Found the click track (hence the cans) useful in that I was concentrating so hard on sticking with the tempo I didn't fluff so many notes.

Trevor
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Lester on June 28, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
My very first TotM contribution.

http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00 (http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00)

Too slow and not accurate but after several aborted attempts the best I could manage. Found the click track (hence the cans) useful in that I was concentrating so hard on sticking with the tempo I didn't fluff so many notes.

Trevor

Seemed perfectly accurate to me and as to speed, it is always harder to play slowly, in time, than to whizz through a tune so well done  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Spikey on June 28, 2014, 08:53:09 PM
And here's my effort - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICwa2AkyRjs

My first thought when I watched this was 'Wow, they're having a rotten summer again in the UK', and then I noticed the koala... just a little slow off the mark here.

Well played (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 28, 2014, 10:18:21 PM
My very first TotM contribution.

http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00 (http://youtu.be/hAcvwk4lP00)

Too slow and not accurate but after several aborted attempts the best I could manage. Found the click track (hence the cans) useful in that I was concentrating so hard on sticking with the tempo I didn't fluff so many notes.

Trevor

I have to agree with Lester, you played this with great confidence and the steady tempo left you with nowhere to hide. Good job you didn't need anywhere to hide!  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Lonnie on June 30, 2014, 07:04:28 AM
Thanks Spikey !
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: troman on June 30, 2014, 07:45:10 AM
Lester and Pete

Thanks very much for your encouragement! (:)

T
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: **DTN** on June 30, 2014, 11:33:27 AM
Couldn't resist this one and i haven't done a TOTM for ages! .. so here's my quick take "banging one out on the staircase as they say" :|bl
Played on my Castagnari RIK GC

http://youtu.be/RxRknt-SAtw (http://youtu.be/RxRknt-SAtw)

Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: robotmay on June 30, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
Couldn't resist this one and i haven't done a TOTM for ages! .. so here's my quick take "banging one out on the staircase as they say" :|bl
Played on my Castagnari RIK GC

http://youtu.be/RxRknt-SAtw (http://youtu.be/RxRknt-SAtw)

Derek

Nice! I like the use of drones in that, I'll have to see if I can learn some variations using those :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: robotmay on June 30, 2014, 01:37:46 PM
And as I said I'd upload another version with any improvements at the end of the month, here's another from me: http://youtu.be/ogcw_Posvq4

It was on about take 4000, so my apologies for the somewhat dodgy timekeeping and mistakes ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: **DTN** on June 30, 2014, 02:34:37 PM
And as I said I'd upload another version with any improvements at the end of the month, here's another from me: http://youtu.be/ogcw_Posvq4

It was on about take 4000, so my apologies for the somewhat dodgy timekeeping and mistakes ;D

And i thought i was late ... Still 9hrs left in UK  8)
Nice looking and sounding box!

Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: robotmay on June 30, 2014, 03:04:32 PM
Nice looking and sounding box!

Aye, hopefully I'll do it justice someday :D
It's also far fancier than any piece of furniture I own; it's kinda showing up the IKEA sofa it sits next to.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Mcgrooger on June 30, 2014, 03:51:26 PM
A 'nick of time' contribution this month.  A quick version, unfortunately slightly over-recorded, and at one point the sound of fighter jets flying over the Lake District can be heard. Turn your speakers down a bit for this one! I've paired it with a William Irwin tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XqXSqy-i18
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: GuyWyatt on June 30, 2014, 06:42:17 PM
More last minute stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l96DmpL5oM
It's obviously a bit gloomy in my kitchen.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for June 2014: Jack Robinson
Post by: Clive Williams on July 01, 2014, 12:33:01 AM
Well done people - great to see more people having a go and all the different versions - keep it up next month! Late entries as ever, just put them on the end of this thread.