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Discussions => Tunes => Topic started by: Gav on March 24, 2009, 11:58:41 PM
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Could anyone tell me the name of this tune, It starts at 1.35 minutes into the set. Is it a reel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hc_w80QyqQ
Thanks Gav
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Could anyone tell me the name of this tune, It starts at 1.35 minutes into the set. Is it a reel?
Thanks Gav
It would probably help if you attached a file or provided us with a link Gav :P
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So sorry about that. Thanks Ukebert I almost certainly would have missed that
Gav.
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there you go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hc_w80QyqQ
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Thanks ,but what is the name of the tune 1.35mins into this set?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hc_w80QyqQ
That was my original request - sorry about the confusion
Gav
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I half recognise it, but can't for the life of me place it.
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It were too fast fur me! Ye gods waht an awsome player! :D
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It were too fast fur me! Ye gods waht an awsome player! :D
Well try this one for a slower tempo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxpmjm292Xc)
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I'm presuming that all these are BCC# boxes?
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That's right Ukebert all BCC# with stradella basses. I've still had no luck on the original tune at the beginning of this thread - it's driving me crazy
All the people I've asked (including my Scottish Mother), all know it but can't identify it
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Why not just post a question in the comments section and ask!
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I honestly thought I'd get an answere from someone on this forum quickly. The last time I posted a question on youtube it wasn't answered for ages.
But you are quite right I should have done that straight off - I'll know better next time.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxpmjm292Xc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxpmjm292Xc)
Aaaaah! That's better!
AL ;D
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The tune 1.35 mins into the set is called "West End" and can be found on page 10 of 'the Second Fiddler's Tunebook'
I use this tune as the second one in a set of three with "The Rose Tree" and "Miss McLeod's Reel"
Yea! it's a reel.
Cracking player.
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Tony Thanks so much! You know when your just completely taken by a tune - you've solved this one.
Gav
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That's right Ukebert all BCC# with stradella basses. I've still had no luck on the original tune at the beginning of this thread - it's driving me crazy
All the people I've asked (including my Scottish Mother), all know it but can't identify it
I know it as well, one of the many tunes that I know well enough to pick up my melodeon with a vague expression and run my hands over the keys a few times, just not one of the tunes that I know well enough to actually play... Good tune though.
And yeah, I'd love a box with Stradella bass. I don't want to join the accordion fraternity though, or particularly move away from 4th tunes boxes.
EDIT: Apparently I am a "good talker". Ah, sweet delicious irony...
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The tune 1.35 mins into the set is called "West End" and can be found on page 10 of 'the Second Fiddler's Tunebook'
I use this tune as the second one in a set of three with "The Rose Tree" and "Miss McLeod's Reel"
Yea! it's a reel.
Cracking player.
I had heard this tune before, but the name didn't ring a bell, so I investigated further.
Graeme Mackay has given me the list of tunes he plays on this clip as: The Drunken Piper; Victoria Hornpipe; Kirk's Hornpipe; Let's Be Merry. There are about a dozen albums on iTunes of Scottish bands playing this tune as Kirk's Hornpipe. Jimmy Shand recorded Kirk's Hornpipe, with Victoria Hornpipe, in 1942. Taigh na Teud's 3rd Ceilidh Book for Fiddlers has this tune (p39) as Kirk's Hornpipe. Nigel Gatherer includes it as Kirk's Hornpipe in one of his collections. (http://www.nigelgatherer.com/tunes/tab/tab10/kirkh.html)
I think Peter Kennedy may have got it wrong when naming this one, and the error's been perpetuated. (It's also in the second edition of The Fiddler's Tunebook, p12). There is a James Hill tune called The West End, but this isn't it. JC's Tunefinder has one version of Kirks Hornpipe labelled aka West End, but I suspect this is just compounding PK's error.
Graeme Mackay is a cracking player. Earlier this month he won the Traditional March, Strathspey and Reel competition at the (Scottish) National Association of Accordion and Fiddle Clubs' annual festival, from a plethora of piano accordion players, including some former winners. Unsurprisingly, he also won the Button Accordion class.
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The dots are in my copy of Michael Reven's 1000 English Country Dance Tunes (P1610
Theo Thomas
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Thank you so much Bill, got the link and it's very tune I was after.
Gav
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The dots are in my copy of Michael Reven's 1000 English Country Dance Tunes (P1610
Theo Thomas
What's the title there, and is the composer named?
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"There is a James Hill tune called The West End, but this isn't it."
Hi Bill. Can you post the abc for James Hill's "West End" I would certainly like to amend my information if PK is incorrect.
Theo! I'm wondering now whether your dots are the same as Bill's tune. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with Michael Raven's book.
thanks
TG
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Hi Bill. Can you post the abc for James Hill's "West End" I would certainly like to amend my information if PK is incorrect.
The music I have is in Pete Loud's Collection of Traditional Fiddle Tunes, p 1-10, titled "The West End", James Hill, Hornpipe. It is the same score as this tune on Session.org (http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7554), and the Session.org ABC gives the same score as in the Pete Loud book.
Hope this helps.
Bill
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Thanks Bill. It is quite different, isn't it. I think I prefer this as a hornpipe (dotted variety) more so than a rant.
Somehow I feel a little uneasy with refering to "West End" (now Kirk's Hornpipe), as noted by me from PK manuscript, as a Hornpipe because it is commonly played as a reel/rant and would never work as a Hornpipe of the dotted variety. I guess I shall have to get hold of Pete Loud's Collection of Fiddle Tunes and also Mike Raven's to see if they are the same.
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Hello all
Thanks to you all for the comments etc for my videos on Youtube. Apologies for the fact I wasn't aware that there was a quest to find out what tunes I was playing in them. Thanks to Bill it's sorted now. Any questions you have just ask. I'm gonna have a look through the forums now that I am registered with the site.
You all have a great site here, glad to see the button boxes have good support!
Cheers guys
Graeme Mackay
www.mackaymusic.co.uk
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Welcome Graeme - you are one hell of a box player & thanks for all that you're doing!
AL
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The dots are in my copy of Michael Reven's 1000 English Country Dance Tunes (P1610
Theo Thomas
What's the title there, and is the composer named?
No composer, title is "The West End".
My wife's morris team (New Esperance) have used this tune for many years (20?) for one of their (written) dances. slowed down a lot but played undotted.
They've always known it as "The West End" but of course they could be wrong...
Ian