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Title: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Clive Williams on November 01, 2014, 12:11:49 AM
The people have spoken again!

A worthy return for this fantastic mazurka, written by Maxou Heintzen . We played this 5 years ago, as one of the first TOTM's - let's do it again!

My, looking up ABC to give you is easy... just got to look up the old thread (which is here by the way: http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.340.html) - and we get this, from Emmanuel Pariselle, courtesy of Lester:

Code: [Select]
X: 187
T:L'Inconnu d'Limoise
M:9/8
K:G
D G2 A|B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|D3 -D2 D G2 A|
B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|A3 -A2||
B c2 d|e3 g2 f e2 f|d3 -d2 c B2 A|G2 F G2 B A2 G|
D6 G2 F|E3 -E2 F G2 A|G3 F3 E3|F3 -F2 G A2 B|A3 -A2||

There are as you'd expect, lots of versions to look at/play along with on the old thread, but here's a couple to get you going... a nice and slow version on a D/G:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzcuKyDq9xA

... and, courtesy of Chris, here's Maxou's band La Chavannee's version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuaySghw0M

Those who haven't played/recorded it before, well, you jolly well should. Try playing along with an existing video to get the hang of the rhythm if you're struggling with the mazurka rhythm - you'll soon get the hang of it. And those that have... do it again! And lets see if it comes out differently after 5 years...

Enjoy,

Clive

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Jackaspandy on November 01, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
Hi All

Well this is one from me - I think I do not play the A & B parts twice like it should be played - but maybe I'll give myself a challenge to improve this by the end of the month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPwD8RBYlrQ&feature=youtu.be

- Andy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Mike Carney on November 03, 2014, 04:53:49 PM
Good effort. I like this tune but have too many others on the go at the moment to do it justice. Maybe after M@W!
M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Jackaspandy on November 03, 2014, 05:05:46 PM
Hi Oysterboy - many thanks for the feedback - as I have known this tune for quite some while now - I am in the rare position of trying to find another tune to play - normally I struggle with the Tune of the month and am still trying to perfect it when the end of the month happens. This month I may dedicate myself to "Haste to the Wedding" - and if it wins next month I should be well primed to make the post before 2015 !  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Owen Woods on November 03, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
Five years? :(
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Jackaspandy on November 03, 2014, 06:41:28 PM
Not quite 5 years but not far off ! Or are you suggesting I learn 5 years by Mr Bowie - an interesting challenge !  ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: AirTime on November 03, 2014, 11:50:30 PM
Surfing my way through a variety of versions of L'inconnu, I came across this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZpRd-OtqR0&index=4&list=UUV9xPVzEandgk_3_RJwnW_A

Don't want to hi-jack the TOTM thread ... but there are a bunch of boxes being played that I don't recognize. Anybody know what they are?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on November 04, 2014, 12:21:07 AM
Don't suppose anyone has worked out the triplet variations (at least I think that's what's going on) played by various people, including Mr Boeddu and Rita Fancello  (as seen in lester's links in postings to this the first time round)?
Note: I am rapidly losing the will to live trying to work them out myself  :-[
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Clive Williams on November 04, 2014, 12:45:10 AM
Here's another take on L'Inconnu de Limoise, this time played on a G/C 1920's Hohner, the lower tone sounding rather nice today I think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLHIJ_QKGKg

I wonder how I played it 5 years ago? Let's see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2CTbsVDL0

... yep, definitely prefer the newer one. There's also, for amusement, this, a 5/4 version recorded about the same time as that one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHbd04sMPo

... which it's probably a good job I didn't listen to before I did this month's effort!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Andrel on November 04, 2014, 04:14:16 AM
Variations by Rita Fancello as well (with La Boite a Jazz thrown in).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lsIcVJnCxc
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: 911377brian on November 04, 2014, 02:39:42 PM
Been searching for a one row version on YouTube without success. I'm getting the hang of it on my D Organetto but have to wizz off to the dusty/squeaky end to get a note I do'nt seem to possess...no knowledge of music so can't say what note it is.... :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Lester on November 04, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
Been searching for a one row version on YouTube without success. I'm getting the hang of it on my D Organetto but have to wizz off to the dusty/squeaky end to get a note I do'nt seem to possess...no knowledge of music so can't say what note it is.... :|bl

To play it on a 1 row 4 stop  without moving it all up to the top octave I do this

X:292
T:L'Inconnu de Limoise
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:D
A, D2 E|F3 -F2 D G2 E|F3 -F2 F G2 A|G3 -G2 F E2 D|A,3 -A,2 A, D2 E|
F3 -F2 D G2 E|F3 -F2 F G2 A|G3 -G2 F E2 D|E3 -E2||
F G2 A|B3 d2 c B2 c|A3 -A2 G F2 E|D2 C D2 F E2 D|
A6 d2 c|B3 -B2 c d2 e|d3 C3 B,3|C3 -C2 D E2 F|E3 -E2||

The red bits are moved up an octave, this doesn't sound odd on a 4 stop as you are playing in 3 octaves so moving it up an octave still leaves at least some reeds on the correct octave.

Here is a rough and ready recording (https://soundcloud.com/alison-10/linconnu-de-limoise)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: 911377brian on November 04, 2014, 03:47:12 PM
Thanks Lester, I've played your version several times and  think I've got it embedded in my grey stuff; now for the bass line....... (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: hustler_asano on November 05, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
Hi, I want to join to TOTM.
I take a video of this tune last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4qzCAxqFM
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: robotmay on November 05, 2014, 01:23:41 PM
Hi, I want to join to TOTM.
I take a video of this tune last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4qzCAxqFM

That sounds great, and welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on November 05, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
Three short takes on the tune, a couple of 'flubby fingers' included at no extra charge

http://youtu.be/l3bsk8LhR8w

Best regards from an autumnal Suffolk

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Grape Ape on November 06, 2014, 05:53:02 AM
This WILL be my first post for tune of the month $@&!'it!

That said, until I do, I think we all need this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mc4gKy5AnzE

For inspiration.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: CherzeduKbec on November 06, 2014, 06:12:34 AM
Hi, I want to join to TOTM.
I take a video of this tune last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4qzCAxqFM

Well done  ;)!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on November 06, 2014, 07:23:49 PM

For inspiration.

Lovely isn't it !
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Pete Dunk on November 06, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
Hi, I want to join to TOTM.
I take a video of this tune last month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4qzCAxqFM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S4qzCAxqFM)

Hello, welcome to the forum! Well played, you'll fit right in.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Anahata on November 06, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
My second YouTube of L'Inconnu de Limoise. On the Dino Baffetti Binci special this time.

http://youtu.be/C5s9skX2ae8
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: 911377brian on November 07, 2014, 02:46:14 PM
Not always easy to say that a tune played on a melodeon is 'beautiful', but Neil A's version of L'Inconnu de Limoise for TOTM  Nov 09 truly is. He does'nt seem to have appeared on this forum for some time.... Shame
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Mike Carney on November 07, 2014, 07:03:24 PM
That said, until I do, I think we all need this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mc4gKy5AnzE

For inspiration.
Great choice to share. Should inspire you. And me!
M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Roland Carson on November 12, 2014, 03:15:10 PM
If you want a laugh have a look at this one  8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRH5pcNmz_Q

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Roland Carson on November 12, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
Oh and this one has what I think is a nice variation at the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFikvdsQng8
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: diatosoldo on November 15, 2014, 10:22:47 AM
This WILL be my first post for tune of the month $@&!'it!

That said, until I do, I think we all need this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mc4gKy5AnzE

For inspiration.
Très joli !
Thank you ...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Fsamuel on November 15, 2014, 02:10:37 PM
https://soundcloud.com/fsamuel100/linconnue-de-limoise

Completely forgot I did this one a couple of years ago, no idea what the second tune is
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: howard mitchell on November 16, 2014, 04:02:22 PM
Here's L'Inconnu de Limoise in C on a Bertrand Gaillard.http://youtu.be/dfAnx_R1Ykw (http://youtu.be/dfAnx_R1Ykw)

I can't remember ever having played this before but I'm sure I've heard it in sessions.
There are a couple of little fluffs at the same point in the tune.  It's remarkable that having got it wrong once the same thing happens again!

Mitch
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Roger Howard on November 16, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
Surfing my way through a variety of versions of L'inconnu, I came across this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZpRd-OtqR0&index=4&list=UUV9xPVzEandgk_3_RJwnW_A

Don't want to hi-jack the TOTM thread ... but there are a bunch of boxes being played that I don't recognize. Anybody know what they are?

I think that they are made by Yves Gaubert, the player nearest to the camera at the start of of the video. His website is here:

http://yvusaccordeons.free.fr/anglais/models-yvus-accordions.html.

He lives down near Carcassonne.  :||:

Roger
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: diatosoldo on November 16, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
https://soundcloud.com/fsamuel100/linconnue-de-limoise

Completely forgot I did this one a couple of years ago, no idea what the second tune is
I like this one ... with a guitar and ... what else : banjo, mandoline ?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: AirTime on November 16, 2014, 05:29:31 PM
I'm enjoying all of these versions. It really is a great classic tune for the melodeon - relatively simple, but elegant.

Here is a version I came across played by Carlo Boeddu on a somewhat wetter than usual Castagnari's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMKojivekM

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Sebastian on November 16, 2014, 09:37:13 PM
Here is a version I came across played by Carlo Boeddu on a somewhat wetter than usual Castagnari's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMKojivekM
What a nice sound! Not long ago I preferred a very dry sound. But this has completely changed over the past months. And I don't know why. ???
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Fsamuel on November 16, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
https://soundcloud.com/fsamuel100/linconnue-de-limoise

Completely forgot I did this one a couple of years ago, no idea what the second tune is
I like this one ... with a guitar and ... what else : banjo, mandoline ?
this has two guitars, one fingerstyle, one strummed, mandolin melody, mandolin chords, bass guitar and a couple of fiddles (which I aways bury in the mix as I'm not yet that confident), and a tambourine, the melodeon is always the hardest part to learn!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: diatosoldo on November 17, 2014, 08:56:55 AM
I like this one ... with a guitar and ... what else : banjo, mandoline ?
this has two guitars, one fingerstyle, one strummed, mandolin melody, mandolin chords, bass guitar and a couple of fiddles (which I aways bury in the mix as I'm not yet that confident), and a tambourine, the melodeon is always the hardest part to learn!
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many people playing with you : lucky man !
But I am sure you could be less shy  ;)


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: penn on November 17, 2014, 09:29:48 PM
here's mine

http://youtu.be/-hWyRrU88dw (http://youtu.be/-hWyRrU88dw)
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 18, 2014, 11:26:57 AM
In a workshop at Witney on Sunday, Emmanuel Pariselle played L'Inconnu "the flat way you Engleeesh play it (poouff!) and the correct French way". The difference was stunning. Some people recorded that clip. If anybody who recorded it reads this, I would be very grateful for a copy.

(Note to myself: buy a decent recording device. Any recommendations would be most welcome.)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on November 18, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
In a workshop at Witney on Sunday, Emmanuel Pariselle played L'Inconnu "the flat way you Engleeesh play it (poouff!) and the correct French way". The difference was stunning. Some people recorded that clip. If anybody who recorded it reads this, I would be very grateful for a copy.

(Note to myself: buy a decent recording device. Any recommendations would be most welcome.)

Ditto! Would some kind person put their recording of Emmanuel's 'correct French way' up here, so we can all benefit?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: penn on November 18, 2014, 12:34:06 PM
oh crikey, I suppose I'd better prepare myself for some "dislikes" on my Youtube like the last time I put up a rubbish version of a french tune. FWIW mine is not the english version, it's the australian one - I was very taken with Hectorawol's version when I first learnt this.
steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 18, 2014, 01:06:06 PM
In a workshop at Witney on Sunday, Emmanuel Pariselle played L'Inconnu "the flat way you Engleeesh play it (poouff!) and the correct French way". The difference was stunning. Some people recorded that clip. If anybody who recorded it reads this, I would be very grateful for a copy.

(Note to myself: buy a decent recording device. Any recommendations would be most welcome.)

I would love to hear this as well! Currently trying to learn this tune so can post to ToTM. Bob, can you describe what the difference was at all?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Anahata on November 18, 2014, 01:40:53 PM
I'd like to hear it too, but recently at the Stowmarket melodeon making course he was saying the same about another mazurka (I forget the name) and in that case the English version was too fast and played in straight quavers instead of dotted (like "dotted hornpipe") quavers.

There is also the issue of what speed to play a mazurka. I have seen/heard recordings of French musicians playing this and other mazurkas at very different speeds - Stephane Delicq very slow in a late night Bal, for example, and one of the YT videos referenced earlier in the thread, at a cracking pace in comparison. Difference dance styles, I guess. Perhaps my learned friend Dr Ryall can explain?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: robotmay on November 18, 2014, 01:56:27 PM
Just uploading my recording on the slow internet connection at my parents' house, will have it up shortly. He did give us permission to record it but I don't want to go sharing it around online a lot without his permission, so I'll give the download link an expiry date of a few days for anyone interested to grab a copy of it.

I wasn't very taken with this tune initially, but how he says to play it is actually not that far from what I was doing, so I think with a bit of practice I might get a half-decent recording up. I'm finding the fingering much easier in the upper octave too.

Edit: Here's the recording, will expire in 7 days: https://www.dropbox.com/s/39ytthxm1wtjgmp/limoise.wav?dl=0
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Clive Williams on November 18, 2014, 02:12:44 PM
Thanks for that - very interesting stuff. In a nutshell, Emmanuel's showing the difference between this in waltz time (binary, as he puts it, each beat split into 2, so you could count each bar as 12 34 56, if you count quickly) and mazurka time (tertiary, each beat split into 3, so if you count quickly (slipjig speed) each bar becomes 123 456 789), which gives the mazurka skip to the rhythm.

He then goes off onto a chordal exploration of the tune second time round of course, but that's another issue....
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 18, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Thanks very much for posting that recording. While I play L'Inconnu in a way that is fairly close to Emmanuel's 'ternaire' mazurka style, I was discouraged to discover that I am playing a couple of other mazurkas in a smoother 'binaire' manner. Note to myself: further work needed on Une Onzième and Mazurka du Lanternaire.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Lester on November 18, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
I'd like to hear it too, but recently at the Stowmarket melodeon making course he was saying the same about another mazurka (I forget the name) and in that case the English version was too fast and played in straight quavers instead of dotted (like "dotted hornpipe") quavers.

Quite probably this one as he 'discussed' the playing with me by informing me if I played I like this

English Version (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/tune-68-lumpy-custard.html)

in his village they would 'nail me to the barn door' and he taught me to play it like this

French Version (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/tune-378-auvergne-mazurka.html)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 18, 2014, 03:12:35 PM
I get the same recording whether I click on the English version or the French version.  ???

By the way, I know the tune as Mazurka d'Auvergne, which, of course, merely means that it is a mazurka from the Auvergne, one of many, no doubt. Perhaps we should call the Anglicised version Lumpy Custard and the French one Mazurka d'Auvergne.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Lester on November 18, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
I get the same recording whether I click on the English version or the French version.  ???

By the way, I know the tune as Mazurka d'Auvergne, which, of course, merely means that it is a mazurka from the Auvergne, one of many, no doubt. Perhaps we should call the Anglicised version Lumpy Custard and the French one Mazurka d'Auvergne.

Oops! fixed now.

ps the tune Lumpy Custard is quite probably a Polish mazurka called Dziekowice Mazurka
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on November 18, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Thanks robotmay, that's really interesting.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 18, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
So basically, 'waltz' rhythm means straight quavers and 'mazurka' rhythm means dotted (or swung) quavers... is that right?

(I love that descending bass line that Emmanuel does at the start...)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 18, 2014, 07:21:07 PM
According to thesession.org, Mazurka d'Auvergne/Lumpy Custard seems to have several other names, including Dziekowice (Lord knows how you pronounce that!), Mazurka Auvergnate, Mazurka de Barbary and Skelton's Mazurka. Confusing!  :-\
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 21, 2014, 02:48:50 PM
It's far from perfect and I reckon I could work on the arrangement some more, but here's my attempt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJERrhBOQwo&feature=youtu.be

Also apologies for the rubbish recording quality!

(This is my first video featuring the new Beltuna Alex II I bought at Witney last weekend... :D)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Mike Carney on November 21, 2014, 04:58:29 PM
It's far from perfect and I reckon I could work on the arrangement some more, but here's my attempt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJERrhBOQwo&feature=youtu.be
Also apologies for the rubbish recording quality!
(This is my first video featuring the new Beltuna Alex II I bought at Witney last weekend... :D)
(:) The melodeon sounds great!  Lovely tone and feel to this.
M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Anahata on November 21, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
So basically, 'waltz' rhythm means straight quavers and 'mazurka' rhythm means dotted (or swung) quavers... is that right?

Always refer to the dance to answer questions like that.
I don't know how to dance a mazurka, but mazurkas tend to have a strong middle beat in the bar, whereas in a waltz the first beat (of the three) is the main one.

And there's more to it than that as the dance is a sequence of steps several bars long, so the tune may tend to have a 2-bar or 4-bar pattern gently imprinted on it.
Oh - I see Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurka) says dotted on the first beat of one bar and not on the next, and also that either the 2nd or 3rd beat is emphasized.

Well, that gives you some idea.
See Wikipedia on Waltzes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltz) too. Scroll down a bit for examples of waltz rhythms.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Stoneyfiddler on November 21, 2014, 09:26:05 PM
Hi! Played a bit around today with this lovely tune - here's my contribution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx4bkThw-Gc

Stephan
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Michel on November 22, 2014, 11:16:29 AM
Being new to the forum (see "Delurking at last" in General Discussion), and relatively new to playing melodeons (seriously, anyway), I thought I'd take a deep breath and pitch in here. It's a lovely mazurka; here's my first pass at it.

http://youtu.be/BBUmQV4Eca0

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Steve_freereeder on November 22, 2014, 11:45:59 AM
I don't know how to dance a mazurka ...

This Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMAKkDINZU) may be useful... Enjoy!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Anahata on November 22, 2014, 01:53:32 PM
I don't know how to dance a mazurka ...

This Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMAKkDINZU) may be useful... Enjoy!  (:)

Thank you! Mary will be pleased to see that too!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: DaveW on November 22, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
So basically, 'waltz' rhythm means straight quavers and 'mazurka' rhythm means dotted (or swung) quavers... is that right?
Always refer to the dance to answer questions like that.
I don't know how to dance a mazurka, but mazurkas tend to have a strong middle beat in the bar, whereas in a waltz the first beat (of the three) is the main one.
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Our International dance teacher, Evra Jordan (RIP, bless her) insisted that although the emphasis on the second beat - mazurka this is - was common, it did depend on where the dance came from. She was strong on links with Polish Dance groups 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 22, 2014, 06:49:38 PM
It's far from perfect and I reckon I could work on the arrangement some more, but here's my attempt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJERrhBOQwo&feature=youtu.be
Also apologies for the rubbish recording quality!
(This is my first video featuring the new Beltuna Alex II I bought at Witney last weekend... :D)
(:) The melodeon sounds great!  Lovely tone and feel to this.
M

Thanks very much!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on November 23, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
Well, here's my effort - I'm really pleased because I did it in only 6 takes!!! Something of a record for me, ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqt8U5rdrG4
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Klonophonium on November 23, 2014, 07:11:17 PM
Hi there,

This is my first post at this forum. This is my attempt to this great tune.  :|||:


http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs (http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: robotmay on November 23, 2014, 09:28:48 PM
That's a great first post Klonophonium! And I like your gurdy recordings too ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Klonophonium on November 24, 2014, 10:10:30 AM
Thanks robotmay, your version is also very good. I play hurdy-gurdy for almost 10 years now and piano for 10 years more, but I am new to the melodeon (only view month). It is a realy "fun to play" instrument.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Bob Michel on November 24, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
Hi there,

This is my first post at this forum. This is my attempt to this great tune.  :|||:


http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs (http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs)

That's some lovely playing. It's hard to believe that you've been playing melodeon for such a short time!

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Klonophonium on November 24, 2014, 08:29:05 PM
Hi there,

This is my first post at this forum. This is my attempt to this great tune.  :|||:


http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs (http://youtu.be/PIjZXJHwrQs)

That's some lovely playing. It's hard to believe that you've been playing melodeon for such a short time!

Bob Michel
Near Philly

Thank you. It seems the melodeon simply fits to me. When i play a new tune most of the time i am searching for the right buttons. The secret is to push the buttons in the right order  ::)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Jack Humphreys on November 25, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
http://youtu.be/ammHcBe2UJc 

Here are some improvisations in the loft.   Some of them come off.
It's my new Serafini, like the other one recently discussed, except mine's Cedar of Lebanon, CF bando. 
This is its first recording. I haven't yet adjusted to the much louder basses, but I like how silent  the mechanism is compared with my Loffet. 
I'm not sure that this box suits me,  so if you might like to try it, let me know by PM.

And..
I suppose everyone knows about the newcomer to our session who wanted to play a tune she'd heard, called THE LONG CANOE.  ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: hionay on November 25, 2014, 07:44:39 PM
Here is my first post & attempt in TOTM  :||:

http://youtu.be/YUIVyBTJ1BY (http://youtu.be/YUIVyBTJ1BY)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Matt (Kings Norton) on November 25, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
Well, times up and so here's my attempt: http://youtu.be/_lE9GEnPaNY

There are more great posts coming in all the time, with hionays fantastic first post just above mine and another great first post higher up the page, variations, listen to them instead of mine...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 25, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
Here is my first post & attempt in TOTM  :||:

http://youtu.be/YUIVyBTJ1BY (http://youtu.be/YUIVyBTJ1BY)

Lovely!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: robotmay on November 30, 2014, 03:33:13 PM
Bleh, ended up having a busy week and not spending as much time as I'd have liked practicing this, but ran out of time and wanted to get something up at least:

https://soundcloud.com/robotmay/linconnu-dlimoise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: xgx on November 30, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
(...)  here's my attempt: http://youtu.be/_lE9GEnPaNY
Good to see Vera in action again  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Matt (Kings Norton) on November 30, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
(...)  here's my attempt: http://youtu.be/_lE9GEnPaNY
Good to see Vera in action again  (:)

Thank you, yes, well, I am very glad to have got custody of her, I really love the sound, there's many a good tune played on an old fiddle, though not necessarily by me.  I don't do it justice obviously, but I like trying.  French music though, I have no idea, as you can probably tell.  I wonder whether you have  got any other interesting boxes up your sleeve?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: xgx on November 30, 2014, 08:42:15 PM
(...)  I wonder whether you have  got any other interesting boxes up your sleeve?
I've sent you an email
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on November 30, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
Well, here's my effort - I'm really pleased because I did it in only 6 takes!!! Something of a record for me, ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqt8U5rdrG4

I think you've got a lovely sense of flow to this. Just wondering though if you intentionally missed out a beat in the second half? There's one bar in the middle of the B part that only has 2 beats rather than 3, which feels a little odd!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on November 30, 2014, 10:53:02 PM
Well, here's my effort - I'm really pleased because I did it in only 6 takes!!! Something of a record for me, ha ha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqt8U5rdrG4

I think you've got a lovely sense of flow to this. Just wondering though if you intentionally missed out a beat in the second half? There's one bar in the middle of the B part that only has 2 beats rather than 3, which feels a little odd!

Well, you've got me worried now butimba! I have listened to this several times, with the music in front of me and I can't hear where you think I am missing a beat in the B part. Could you pinpoint it for me? Can anyone else hear this? Maybe I only hear what I want to hear!!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: A.J. Walker on November 30, 2014, 11:52:42 PM
"Could you pinpoint it for me? Can anyone else hear this?"

It is in the "B" section, the 4th measure at about .36, .46, etc.

The 2nd and 3rd notes need to be as long as the 1st.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Clive Williams on November 30, 2014, 11:59:30 PM
Thanks folks! End of the month, and time to move onto the next tune! As ever, late submissions and indeed discussions on existing submissions are very welcome - just stick them on the end of this thread.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Pierre-Emmanuel on December 01, 2014, 12:32:40 AM
Here's my version of the tune with my younger brother on the guitar ... and a surprise ending :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyhFnnYcn24&index=2&list=UUsHCmKagc1po3eWZ_bFW_Ng

As I'm sure you can hear, I've been inspired by a lot of you guys. Thank you for all your great videos!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: A.J. Walker on December 01, 2014, 04:15:02 AM
OK! Finally managed to do a video of L'Inconnu. First ever TOTM for me, and actually my first ever YouTube. Did lots of takes; finally got one with not TOO many nervous errors so I went ahead and put it up.

Played on a G/C "Pokerwork" I picked up a bit less than 2 months ago to start learning on. I have other instrumental experience, so I'm not quite a raw beginner music-wise.

My GAWD that clacketty-clack really stands out! Too close to the mic/cam trying to hide my melodeon face?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVer0nhqHsM
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: CherzeduKbec on December 01, 2014, 07:51:13 AM
Hi everybody!
Here's my attempt to L'inconnu de Limoise.
http://youtu.be/hzDbGnZniAQ (http://youtu.be/hzDbGnZniAQ)

I learned it by ear from several videos on YouTube.Thank you to all the musicians who are sharing music.
Played on Corona II Classic GCF
 :||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on December 01, 2014, 09:06:46 AM
"Could you pinpoint it for me? Can anyone else hear this?"

It is in the "B" section, the 4th measure at about .36, .46, etc.

The 2nd and 3rd notes need to be as long as the 1st.

Thanks everyone for trying to help. It's really annoying because several people can hear my mistake and I still can't. I shall have another listen and play it through slowly this evening when I get home from work!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Lester on December 01, 2014, 09:31:50 AM
Thanks everyone for trying to help. It's really annoying because several people can hear my mistake and I still can't. I shall have another listen and play it through slowly this evening when I get home from work!

Hopefully you do ABC, you are playing this

X:294
T:L'Inconnu de Limoise
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:G
D G2 A|B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|D3 -D2 D G2 A|
B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|A3 -A2||
B c2 d|e3 g2 f e2 f|d3 -d2 c B2 A|G2 F G2 B A2 G|
D4 G F|E3 -E2 F G2 A|G3 F3 E3|F3 -F2 G A2 B|A3 -A2||

The highlighted bar is only 6/8 not 9/8 like the rest of the tune, it should be

X:294
T:L'Inconnu de Limoise
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:G
D G2 A|B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|D3 -D2 D G2 A|
B3 -B2 G c2 A|B3 -B2 B c2 d|c3 -c2 B A2 G|A3 -A2||
B c2 d|e3 g2 f e2 f|d3 -d2 c B2 A|G2 F G2 B A2 G|
D6 G2 F|E3 -E2 F G2 A|G3 F3 E3|F3 -F2 G A2 B|A3 -A2||
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on December 01, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
Gosh, you're so kind Lester. I shall sort that out tonight, THANKS.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: arty on December 01, 2014, 10:39:35 AM
The light has just come on!!!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Lester on December 01, 2014, 10:47:45 AM
The light has just come on!!!!

 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: butimba on December 01, 2014, 06:25:43 PM
The light has just come on!!!!

Hooray!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Matt (Kings Norton) on December 01, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
What a great batch of late posts.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Grape Ape on December 07, 2014, 11:49:12 PM
So, for the record, I recorded this one week ago today, on Sunday, November 30. Having vowed that this would be my first TOTM and youtube posting, really my first video of any sort, I did accomplish my goal, but ran into the unexpected hiccup of my mac mysteriously deleting imovie and deciding to suddenly stop all communication with my video camera. Problems now sorted, here is my attempt at this surprisingly simple yet surprisingly difficult tune. There are rythem issues and several small slip ups, but overall, for having learned it in a month, with the rest of my life to refine it, I am satisfied. This was my first take. Things went downhill on subsequent takes, though I am sure I could do better now, a week later. Here's to better late than never:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=smkaKAiE4RY
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Matt (Kings Norton) on December 08, 2014, 12:16:05 AM
Ha, the ape has landed!  Sign of great things to come.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
Thanks Matt!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 29, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
Jeff Dantin has just posted some "source" on FB - la Chavannée in the barn at Embraud. Looks to be a private dance of some kind … http://youtu.be/f51k2j5oJDg

  From the left, front row Jean-Marc, Maxou (composer), Patrick, Frédou, Manou, Eric
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: Fred on October 08, 2017, 08:30:21 PM
Hope it's not too late to post a recording of this song.
I've been playing it for quite some time now and always vary it a little each time I play it.

https://youtu.be/zDMj9t0zxpM

I'm sorry for the bad audio quality and promise that I'll be using an external microphone next time I want to record something. ;-)
Best wishes, Fred
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for November 2014: L'Inconnu de Limoise
Post by: playandteach on October 08, 2017, 09:58:12 PM
Recording may be awful but the playing clearly isn't. Fluent and secure. Well done.
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