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Title: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Clive Williams on March 01, 2015, 11:20:41 AM
A clear winner this month; Otis Tomas' tune 'The New Land' which has come to us courtesy of Lester to him from Emmanuel Pariselle. Here is Lester demo'ing it,

http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/tune-403-new-land.html and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuVOZgJpfw .

and courtesy of Lester's page, here's some ABC:

Code: [Select]
X:390
T:The New Land
C:Otis Tomas

M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
|:G3 F GA|B d3 e2|d2 dB A2|G2 GA BG|
c2 cB AB|c e3 g2|e2 ec A2|A2 AB (3cBA|
B3 G BG|B d3 ga|b2 ba g2|e2 ef ga|
b2 ba g2|a f3 d2|Be e2 d2|1 e2 ed BA:|2 e2 ef ga||
|:b2 ba bc'|b2 a2 g2|c2 cB cd|c2 d2 e2|
a2 ag ab|a2 g2 f2|B2 BA Bc|B2 c2 d2|
g2 gf ga|g2 f2 e2|A2 AG AB|A2 G2 E2|
d B3 G2|A F3 D2|B, E3 D2|1 E2 ef ga:|2 E2 ed BA||

Thanks very much to Otis for composing this tune and very kindly letting us use it; if you want to see what Otis does in his day job, go to www.fiddletree.com to look at the amazing work on his violins and guitars - Otis also has tune books and CDs available if you want to hear more of his tunes.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 03, 2015, 05:55:33 PM
Don't think I've ever been first before but here's a go at this month's tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0C3KQzNarg
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: howard mitchell on March 03, 2015, 08:11:33 PM
Don't think I've ever been first before but here's a go at this month's tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0C3KQzNarg

I was about to say exactly the same, here's mine http://youtu.be/FuCL5f1MUqE (http://youtu.be/FuCL5f1MUqE)

I've not come across this tune before and I was intreagued by the differences in videos and abc posted during the voting and at the beginning of this thread. I also looked up the tune and found other slight variation both in ornamentation and harmonisation. So I took some ideas from each of these and added my own.  I must admit it took more than 1 take.

Mitch.

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Harp2 on March 03, 2015, 09:39:12 PM
Nice Job both of you (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: gettabettabox on March 03, 2015, 11:53:30 PM
yes. well played to both.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Rees on March 04, 2015, 12:04:01 AM
One in D and one in G. Excellent!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Bob Michel on March 04, 2015, 12:22:33 AM
Here's my effort:

http://youtu.be/6Gebi7gETj4

I've meant to learn this tune ever since I first heard it, c. 1982, on the LP of the same name by the American/Irish group Touchstone.

I appreciate the nudge. I struggle with procrastination sometimes.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Mike Carney on March 05, 2015, 08:35:03 AM
Here's my effort:

http://youtu.be/6Gebi7gETj4

I've meant to learn this tune ever since I first heard it, c. 1982, on the LP of the same name by the American/Irish group Touchstone.

I appreciate the nudge. I struggle with procrastination sometimes.

Bob Michel

Near Philly
Very nice. Enjoyed it. Still working on mine!
Mike
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Bob Michel on March 05, 2015, 12:23:40 PM
What a lovely relaxing sound.

Thanks, Tuechter. That's both gratifying and mysterious, since by the time  I recorded this I'd done so many takes trying to get it even halfway right that my internal soundtrack was less a lovely waltz than some sort of Death Metal.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: TomBom on March 05, 2015, 12:31:36 PM
Here's my effort:

http://youtu.be/6Gebi7gETj4
That is lovely. The stringed instruments add nicely to the sound. I didn't notice your bass playing.
May I ask how you record the multi-track recordings? Do you play melody first?
Thomas
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Bob Michel on March 05, 2015, 01:09:45 PM
I didn't notice your bass playing.

Thanks, TomBom. It's funny about the bass; through my good headphones it's a bit overpowering, but it does get lost on, say, the iPad speaker.

I've been putting up a lot of stuff the past week, partly to get used to a streamlined recording protocol. It works like this (deep breath here): I record the melody track directly to iMovie, using an Apogee MiC (very convenient, since it draws power from the tablet). I then save the video to my Photo Roll and export it to Dropbox. Supposedly iMovie can export directly to Dropbox, but this doesn't always work for me; it usually requires two steps.

I then import the video to a new project in the Auria recording app (which is just wonderful), where I can overdub as many tracks as I like and add some modest enhancements (just panning and a bit of reverb, mainly). When I'm happy with the mix, I send it to the mastering app Final Touch, via yet another app called AudioShare.  In Final Touch I can add a little EQ to the entire mix and raise the levels.

Then I send the completed soundtrack back to iMovie, where I delete the original audio, add a title, and tweak the video a little (very little). Save the movie once more to the Photo Roll, and upload to YouTube.

It probably sounds terribly complicated, but in practice it's quick and smooth. And it's far less involved than my old method, which involved transferring the video wirelessly to my PC and using Audacity and the kludgy old Microsoft Movie Maker. The new approach lets me do everything on the tablet; the entire recording studio fits in a backpack, and I can make a video of decent quality anywhere.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Grape Ape on March 05, 2015, 02:48:25 PM
Here's my effort:

http://youtu.be/6Gebi7gETj4

I've meant to learn this tune ever since I first heard it, c. 1982, on the LP of the same name by the American/Irish group Touchstone.

I appreciate the nudge. I struggle with procrastination sometimes.

Bob Michel

Near Philly

Like for example organizing all those books that serve as your backdrop??

In all seriousness Bob, I really enjoy your videos and playing.  Really soothes the soul!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Bob Michel on March 05, 2015, 04:54:13 PM

Like for example organizing all those books that serve as your backdrop??


Oh, dear. And that's the neater end of the room...

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: boxcall on March 05, 2015, 05:35:23 PM
For some folks that is organized and if it was organized like a library then you might need a big file to find it.
I think Jackson Pollock would agree.
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/pollock/pollock.key.jpg

Like others have said Bob nice job with the tune!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Anahata on March 05, 2015, 07:59:22 PM
The new approach lets me do everything on the tablet; the entire recording studio fits in a backpack, and I can make a video of decent quality anywhere.

That's impressive.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: TomBom on March 05, 2015, 11:20:35 PM
I didn't notice your bass playing.

Thanks, TomBom. It's funny about the bass; through my good headphones it's a bit overpowering, but it does get lost on, say, the iPad speaker.

I've been putting up a lot of stuff the past week, partly to get used to a streamlined recording protocol. It works like this (deep breath here):
Sorry, I tried again with decent speakers and suddenly the bass is very audible.  :D

Bob, thanks very much for taking your time to explain everything step by step! Your description was much more detailed than I expected. I am getting an idea how to manage overdubbing on a video.
Your very mobile recording studio is hard to beat.

Thomas
(who is familiar to bookshelves in need of some organizing)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Anahata on March 06, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
The cure for the bass problem is to give it some boost around 200-300Hz and cut from 100Hz and below (approximately: experiment obviously). It won't sound so deep and boomy but it will be more compatible with both small and large speakers.

Sorry, drifting off topic.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Bob Michel on March 06, 2015, 12:10:22 PM
The cure for the bass problem

At the risk of prolonging the drift (mea culpa, anyway), thanks for that tip. Now that you mention it, I think I've done something similar for recordings in the past, but I've gotten a bit lazy on some of the YouTube videos.

And now...back to the Land.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on March 06, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
http://youtu.be/5ivW1rCr_Ek

A couple of 'fat finger' moments, but generally where it ended up.

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Theo on March 06, 2015, 02:02:04 PM
Interesting that so far all the versions in G miss out the big fat B chord in bar 12. I fell a recording session coming on!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Anahata on March 06, 2015, 03:09:06 PM
I've noted the chords used on two of the versions posted, and they are wildly different, but that B is yet another possibility certainly. Then resolve to Emin? or keep the tension up with a C resolving plagally to F on the bar after?... I haven't even tried playing the tune yet, but I can see there's an almost infinite number of possible harmonic paths all the way through it.

Quote
I feel a recording session coming on
Bring it on  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: arty on March 06, 2015, 03:27:59 PM
Interesting that so far all the versions in G miss out the big fat B chord in bar 12. I fell a recording session coming on!

I also, haven't had a chance to start working out the tune yet. Listening to the others, which have been posted, I am tempted to try it on the D row (B min ?) in order to avoid the squeaky top end if played on the G row.
I look forward to your recording Theo and anyone else who can give me a few hints! I really enjoy the lilting, smoothness of Emmanuel Pariselle's version, which seems to be sadly lacking in most others I have listened to.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: butimba on March 06, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
I really enjoy the lilting, smoothness of Emmanuel Pariselle's version, which seems to be sadly lacking in most others I have listened to.

I really like how relaxed Emmanuel Pariselle's version sounds and think that's the real challenge with this tune - trying to get that laid-back feel.

I've had a brief go on a 2.5 row and it seems to work well in D (i.e. in the key Emmanuel plays it in). I've also realised it's a really good tune to practise right-hand harmony with - you can play the whole B part in 3rds (aside from the last few bars where it goes too low in D).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 06, 2015, 05:21:39 PM

I also, haven't had a chance to start working out the tune yet. Listening to the others, which have been posted, I am tempted to try it on the D row (B min ?) in order to avoid the squeaky top end if played on the G row.
I look forward to your recording Theo and anyone else who can give me a few hints! I really enjoy the lilting, smoothness of Emmanuel Pariselle's version, which seems to be sadly lacking in most others I have listened to.
Arty, the reason I used my two and a half row was to be able to play an F#m chord in the version in D. Not sure if that helps and I'm sure that it could be harmonised differently if need be.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: arty on March 06, 2015, 06:58:14 PM
Arty, the reason I used my two and a half row was to be able to play an F#m chord in the version in D. Not sure if that helps and I'm sure that it could be harmonised differently if need be.

It would be helpful and I am sure it will be to someone but I only have standard 8 bass instruments....for the time being! Thanks anyway McGrooger  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: jack on March 06, 2015, 07:52:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx-g55HAH-M&feature=youtu.be

My attempt - after 4 years practice! Good to finally know what it's called though!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Harp2 on March 06, 2015, 10:57:04 PM
Jack
Very nice version. I like the relaxed feel you gave it. I am not there yet.
Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Clive Williams on March 10, 2015, 01:35:18 AM
Here we go folks, had a run at this tonight while I had the Preciosa out;

http://youtu.be/UbjK07gwyH4

I'm playing it mostly on the outer row, so we're in Bb. This only works because I've got some useful low notes on this box though...

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Mike Carney on March 11, 2015, 03:54:37 PM
Try this.  Have played it better but....

https://soundcloud.com/oysterboy6/the-new-land

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: brazilian.BOX on March 11, 2015, 04:13:31 PM
This part of melnet is very inspiring. I am always taking suggestions here to study or try to play.  :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: BCC#er on March 14, 2015, 02:10:57 PM
Hi there!

Here's my attempt https://youtu.be/Se5-lsJxiMg

Not ideal but I cannot spend more time on it for now unfortunately!

Cheers,
Anatole
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Todd D on March 14, 2015, 05:22:30 PM
Nice sounding box and good version.  Thanks
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on March 14, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
Thanks to Mr. Tomas for a really original sounding piece. I've enjoyed working on it,

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX2x-wPz7QQ
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: gettabettabox on March 14, 2015, 11:41:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx-g55HAH-M&feature=youtu.be

My attempt - after 4 years practice! Good to finally know what it's called though!
there is something about this that i like. (a note not sounding so easily maybe within the 'high' octave?.... but a great take.)
i'd love to hear you play this same tune on a 'german' manufactured pokerwork/erica.
thank you.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: butimba on March 15, 2015, 10:15:05 AM
Thanks to Mr. Tomas for a really original sounding piece. I've enjoyed working on it,

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX2x-wPz7QQ

Really like this - particularly the way you hold back the tempo at just the right spots, it flows beautifully and feels really nice and relaxed. Thank you!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Theo on March 16, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
Interesting that so far all the versions in G miss out the big fat B chord in bar 12. I fell a recording session coming on!

Played on an old Castagnari Sander DG

https://soundcloud.com/theboxplace/new-land-1
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Ellisteph on March 18, 2015, 09:06:59 AM
Interesting that so far all the versions in G miss out the big fat B chord in bar 12. I fell a recording session coming on!

Played on an old Castagnari Sander DG

https://soundcloud.com/theboxplace/new-land-1
Very nice version Theo. We can certainly pick out your B chord! I'll post one before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: arty on March 20, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
Thanks to Mr. Tomas for a really original sounding piece. I've enjoyed working on it,

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX2x-wPz7QQ

That is really lovely Jeff - the tune really suits the G/C box. I have started to learn it on my D/G box but find it a bit squeaky, so have decided to leave it until my G/C box arrives sometime soon. Well played!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on March 20, 2015, 03:00:22 PM

That is really lovely Jeff - the tune really suits the G/C box. I have started to learn it on my D/G box but find it a bit squeaky, so have decided to leave it until my G/C box arrives sometime soon. Well played!

Thanks very much David. And good luck with your wait for the new box. Let's hope it arrives even sooner than expected!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Anahata on March 20, 2015, 10:07:30 PM
For me, this was an obvious one for the old Hohner C/F club box, not only because it means I can play it in the originally composed key, but because the sound is just right for it.

http://youtu.be/SCQ9_GePhkw
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Harp2 on March 21, 2015, 12:29:05 AM
For me, this was an obvious one for the old Hohner C/F club box, not only because it means I can play it in the originally composed key, but because the sound is just right for it.

http://youtu.be/SCQ9_GePhkw

I agree, I have been playing it in F also.
Hopefully I will get a chance to get mine up shortly.
Nice version
Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: butimba on March 21, 2015, 06:35:18 PM
For me, this was an obvious one for the old Hohner C/F club box, not only because it means I can play it in the originally composed key, but because the sound is just right for it.

http://youtu.be/SCQ9_GePhkw

Really lovely! (I particularly like your harmonies and bass runs in the B part. Also the chords you use at the end of the B part just work perfectly.) Thank you.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Anahata on March 21, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
I particularly like your harmonies and bass runs in the B part. Also the chords you use at the end of the B part just work perfectly.  (:)
Thank you! The end of the B part has a slow three note descending sequence in the bass which I think I nicked from the Emmanuel Pariselle version, though it may not be quite the same notes in the same place. In fact almost everything interesting I did was nicked from someone, except perhaps the RH harmony part in the B music, which I'm quite proud of having subtly tweaked to avoid breaking classical harmony rules.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: BCC#er on March 23, 2015, 05:16:40 PM

Thank you! The end of the B part has a slow three note descending sequence in the bass which I think I nicked from the Emmanuel Pariselle version

Could you share a link where to listen to this version? It was mentioned several times but I couldn't find it
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Mike Carney on March 23, 2015, 06:09:20 PM
Try this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDRQxfaAlFs

Mike
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: BCC#er on March 23, 2015, 07:21:37 PM
Thanks Mike! :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: jack on March 27, 2015, 08:10:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx-g55HAH-M&feature=youtu.be

My attempt - after 4 years practice! Good to finally know what it's called though!
there is something about this that i like. (a note not sounding so easily maybe within the 'high' octave?.... but a great take.)
i'd love to hear you play this same tune on a 'german' manufactured pokerwork/erica.
thank you.
Jack
Very nice version. I like the relaxed feel you gave it. I am not there yet.
Thanks for posting

Thanks for these comments! I'm really glad I posted the clip - this totm has kick-started renewed faith in the melodeon after ages playing nothing but anglo. Thanks again Harp2 and gettabettabox.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: GBbox on March 30, 2015, 11:22:43 PM
Close to the deadline!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKZKw9y7Hjg
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Harp2 on March 31, 2015, 02:46:11 AM
Ill sneak my morphed version in as well... :||:

https://youtu.be/0WCs27Gl2Fs
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Stoneyfiddler on March 31, 2015, 08:39:40 PM
Here's my very late contribution for this (extremely beautiful!) tune of the month. Sorry for speeding it up, my inner selves are still having an argument whether I should treat it as a mazurk-ish slow waltz or a faster one and this recording reflects it well... ;-) I think it works both ways, but I should try to get consistent. Oh well..

Video will appear here at about 9PM: http://youtu.be/Y3XpdC1vaEc
(Have to rush to a session & can't wait for the upload to finish)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on March 31, 2015, 09:29:40 PM
This is my first post to melodeon.net, but I've been enjoying reading all the exchanges amongst participants for a while. I have only been playing the melodeon for about 5 months but have been playing music for most of my life on other instruments. Here is my rendition of the March TOTM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knOn6TOLUac

 I played it in the key of F so I could use the old "Lester", which I recently reassembled and returned to semi-playable condition. I didn't have an ABC program to transpose the music, so I rewrote it note by note in the key I wanted.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Harp2 on March 31, 2015, 09:57:38 PM
Welcome aboard Psuggmog Volbenz  (:)
Thanks for posting the video!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Clive Williams on April 01, 2015, 01:36:19 AM
Great late flurry there!  (:)

Time to do the next tune, but of course you can stick any late entries onto the end of this thread as usual.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2015: The New Land
Post by: Pequod on April 10, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
Hey folks,

Here is my contribution for March. Sorry for the delay, but I had many setbacks, and needed to change octave and key many times, until I finally did it on G, on the higher notes.

https://youtu.be/iwu6TQoUCxc

This song was very nice, because besides it's undisputted beauty, it requires three octaves, and a bigger exploration of this small but complex instrument :)

Best Regards
Tiago