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Title: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 13, 2015, 10:04:34 AM
Fellow concertinists might be interested in a project I've undertaken over at www.concertina.net.

For some time I've been recording videos of songs--some well-known, some obscure--from roughly the years 1910-1920. Since I've been using (Anglo) concertina more and more for vocal accompaniment of late, I've decided to lean on it more heavily in future videos, and also to concentrate on songs (not exclusively war-related) of the Great War.

Mostly I focus on less well-known material of American origin--Tin Pan Alley was very busy in those years--but to kick off this phase of my recording I thought I'd do homage to perhaps the two most famous WWI songs of all, both from the U.K.:

http://youtu.be/AEqH4_9KVOg

http://youtu.be/GE0XlvgRpgk

I'd be thrilled if any other squeezebox players wanted to take a hand in these researches. Further details are at http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935.

Bob Michel
Near Philly


Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 13, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
Well sung, nice swing, and lsome lovely 'chewed' chording … an example to those of us who try to sing with melodeons.

I have long done some WW1 song a cappella - do they count? :|glug
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on August 13, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
If you sing, 'While I've a lucifer to light my fag', then it's the tobacco that counts.


John
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Theo on August 13, 2015, 12:07:22 PM
But don't let it count to three.  Nobody wants the third light.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 13, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
I have long done some WW1 song a cappella - do they count? :|glug

Thanks, Chris. My mother always told me to chew my chords. Of course, I may have misheard her.

I'm just working out how to approach this accompaniment business, but the principle "less is more" keeps asserting itself. So yes, a cappella by all means.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 13, 2015, 07:50:31 PM
The film "oh what a lovely war" is a great source of material if you can find it
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 13, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
The film "oh what a lovely war" is a great source of material if you can find it

Indeed it is--I haven't thought of that film in ages. I should definitely watch it again now.

A lot of the songs I've worked up, or am planning to work up, come from my own collection of sheet music. But there are some excellent online sources as well. This one is the best I've found:

http://digital.library.umsystem.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?sid=da534aea06f3ac2260eee2e18cd7ba27;page=index;c=umkcwwismic

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 17, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
Off to Tin Pan Alley, then, for the first American song in the project, "Send Me Away with a Smile" (1917):

http://youtu.be/VJEi_QLAyS4

Further details at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=2#entry171428

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 18, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
.
   "Yanks are coming" surely a must?

       But please get on with it …
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 18, 2015, 10:01:18 AM
"Yanks are coming" surely a must?

Given my soft spot for the music of that period, I confess that I'm oddly unwowed by George M. Cohan (apart from "You Won't Do Any Business If You Haven't Got a Band," which I've found to be all too true). Too familiar, maybe. But maybe I can gird my loins.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 18, 2015, 10:13:33 AM
Buddy, can you spare a dime is one I occasionally do

clearly post war, but  its second verse is full of references to WW1
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 18, 2015, 10:25:02 AM
Buddy, can you spare a dime is one I occasionally do

That one's essential to any set of Depression songs. The lyricist Yip Harburg kicked off the '30s with it, then finished the decade with "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." Not a bad run.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on August 18, 2015, 10:38:56 AM
Buddy, can you spare a dime is one I occasionally do

That one's essential to any set of Depression songs. The lyricist Yip Harburg kicked off the '30s with it, then finished the decade with "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." Not a bad run.

Bob Michel
Near Philly

One of the very best.

John
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on August 19, 2015, 07:53:00 PM
June Tabor's Waltzing Matilda. Written by Ben Bogle I think. Absolute tear jerker and so true.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Lester on August 19, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
June Tabor's Waltzing Matilda. Written by Ben Bogle I think. Absolute tear jerker and so true.

The Band Played Waltzing Matilda written by Eric Bogle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG48Ftsr3OI) sung here by the writer, much better than JT's version in my opinion.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: ocajun on August 19, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
Eric Bogle is the master of songs about WW1 but is not of the era so may not qualify. A certain politician once said that a favourite (Bogle) song was written by a soldier who died in the war, which amused Eric Bogle. The individual in question may have been misinformed but does have a bit of a reputation for mendacity where warfare is concerned. If including EB's songs I would recommend the original version of "No Man's Land" rather than the Irish "Green Fields of France" variant. It makes more sense and is better. I know a man who is capable of singing "As If He Knows" but there cannot be many who can. As tearjerkers go it has no equal in my estimation. Sounds like a great project - don't know if I can help beyond mangling a couple of WW1 pipe marches.
Rod
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 19, 2015, 10:58:02 PM
Eric Bogle is the master of songs about WW1 but is not of the era so may not qualify.

It's surely a tribute to Eric Bogle that "No Man's Land" and "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" are among the first songs--right up there with "Tipperary" or "Pack Up Your Troubles in Your Old Kit Bag" (or, over here, "Over There") that spring to mind when someone says "music of the First World War." But they are, alas, songs of the '70s, and so not on my playlist this time around. Which needn't deter anyone else from having a go at them, of course.

I would be very grateful if anyone could point me towards the lyrics of a "No Man's Land" parody (not the one posted at Mudcat Café) which I heard only once, at a session nearly twenty years ago, and of which I remember only one line: "Did nobody tell you you're allowed to shoot back [vel sim.]?" No disrespect to Mr. Bogle intended, but it was beyond brilliant. Or seemed so that night.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: brazilian.BOX on August 19, 2015, 11:14:59 PM

http://youtu.be/AEqH4_9KVOg


Amazing track man! Congratulations! It awakes me wishes to play the concertinas

(concertinas, that I call here between friends as "jelly pot noise boxes" ahahhaha because call also the normal melodeon as "noise boxes" ahahhah.. so I need to explain to friends here, that these are like smaller "noise boxes" being like jelly pots!  ;D ;D So the termination: "jelly pot noise boxes").

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Mike Hirst on August 20, 2015, 01:56:45 AM
A few favourites to add to the list.

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Broadland Boy on August 20, 2015, 02:55:18 AM
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery, as a toddler I remember my grandfather singing something to it and being told 'not in front of the boy' by grandma, whereon he would continue in whistling mode, I never found out what the song was, presumably something a bit off colour - any ideas ?

Interesting thread on mudcat http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=31970#417879 and http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/ww1-songs/ which you may well have checked already.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 20, 2015, 08:57:22 AM
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery, as a toddler I remember my grandfather singing something to it and being told 'not in front of the boy' by grandma, whereon he would continue in whistling mode, I never found out what the song was, presumably something a bit off colour - any ideas ?

Interesting thread on mudcat http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=31970#417879 and http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/ww1-songs/ which you may well have checked already.

Thanks for the Mudcat link; I don't think I'd seen that discussion, actually.

As for Lillibulero (variously spelled), the tune's sometimes attributed to Henry Purcell, though it's probably older than that. The most common lyrics ("Ho, brother Teague, dost hear the decree...") date to the late seventeenth century. Historically they're a red flag to Irish Catholics (as they were intended to be), but they're not risqué. There's a mildly racy parody (which I've never heard) quoted in the discussion at https://thesession.org/tunes/1069.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 20, 2015, 09:03:36 AM
Slight risk of off-topicity creeping in - I've never been told Lillibularo was anything but English Civil war era (1640s) and wiki says first published in 1661. Nevertheless it is one of the the most robust songs in history (BBC World Service used it up to about 1995) and had military roots. I'd be surprised if it didn't get sung in those trenches. Ditto  Bogle's stuff, 1960s(?), so a bit late for those Tommy's. Eric was utterly on the simple soldier's side;  I don't think the public might  have stomached eg "Band played Waltzing Mathilda" in the WW1 era - but how things change?

The Ottomans, long enemies of Russia, threw in against "our side" and that … might … be the reference of Grandad's 'adults only' song.

T'was xmas eve at the harem

  It was Christmas Eve in the harem, the eunuchs all standing there,
  A hundred dusky maidens, combing their pubic hair.

  When along came Father Christmas, striding down the marble halls,
  Sayin' "what do you want for Christmas lads?  The eunuchs answered, "Balls!"


There are numerous web sites including https://www.phil.muni.cz/angl/gw/warww.html with "Oh what a Lovely War" lyrics. Mudcat also good. Personally I've long done "Hanging on the front line wire" every October, and "Band played Waltzing Mathilda" …  April obviously.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 20, 2015, 09:06:21 AM
A few favourites to add to the list.

  • Roses of Picardy
  • Long Long Trail
  • The Rose of No mans land
  • Keep the Home Fires Burning
  • Nearer My God to Thee
  • Sister Susie's Sewing Shirts For Soldiers
  • Mademoiselle from Armentières

Plus these somewhat less familiar ones, which I've already recorded (sans squeezebox) for YouTube:

"Somewhere in France Is the Lily" http://youtu.be/g7dRTox_P1k
"Oh! Frenchy" http://youtu.be/HgT8NIggcnE
"The Last Long Mile" http://youtu.be/etKBX_ksoAc
"Stay Down Here Where You Belong" http://youtu.be/4WsGCnwFedQ
"The War in Snider's Grocery Store" http://youtu.be/LZOc1DCIXlo

Bob Michel
Near Philly

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on August 20, 2015, 09:39:07 AM
Why thanks, ALL are unfamiliar! Took me a little while to sample them all. Interesting both in a different cadences to the music, and also a quite different lyrical perspective from a Nation that (other than for "Somewhere in France" … was not yet in the war. Most of our Tommy songs seem to be either from Music Hall  - or parodies of the same.  You must include "when this Bloody War is over" which is to the "what a friend we have in Jesus" tune, and would well suit your voice with concertina.

I'm recently back from 'over there' incidentally. Montreal in particular zings with song of all kinds, we even had a Vaudeville night! The Canadian Regiment's museum at London Ontario barracks has a whole room on their (immediate) mobilisation for WW1, but its music section is all … military stuff. 

(Their room on the 1812 war was also "interesting" and was about something virtually unknown here. All British eyes were then on Moscow, with Napoleon's campaign there another rich source of popular song)
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 20, 2015, 10:04:17 AM
Interesting both in a different cadences to the music, and also a quite different lyrical perspective from a Nation that (other than for "Somewhere in France" … was not yet in the war.

A lot of the Yank songs have a vaudeville pedigree. It's a fascinating moment in American musical history. Ragtime is everywhere, white people are just becoming aware of this thing called "the blues," and jazz will come roaring out of New Orleans in about five minutes. The whole country has a marching band fetish that predates the war by decades, but the rhythm section is just starting, ever so slightly, to swing. Somewhere I read a period account (probably from a few years earlier) of the knowing but nervous laughter in the crowd when John Philip Sousa's band launched into the raggedy cakewalk "Smokey Mokes" (Sousa reportedly hated ragtime, but he was after all a working musician). Everything that rises must converge, as some Frenchman said.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Broadland Boy on August 21, 2015, 02:12:12 AM
Thanks both, no cigar yet on Lily B lyrics but enormous thanks for leading me to another that he used to sing (and which I used to enjoy immensley, probably on 'Uncle Mac'), being 'Abdul Abulbul Amir', which I discover has a less celubrious pre WW1 version and two daughter versions by Frank Crumit (I've also re aquainted meself with his 'and the pig got up and slowly walked away' isn't youtube and its many uploaders wonderful  ;D

BTW I heard Eric Bogle perform his 'Walzing Matilda' at the RSL club in Coolangatta in the mid 50's, normally the audience overtalked any 'act' - you could have heard a pin drop, he followed up with a newish song he was bedding down, 'He's Nobody's Moggy Now', to much the same reaction and some uncomfortable looks  ;D.

Thread hijack mode OFF
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 24, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
Back to 1917, this time for a well-known number that sounds as if it came from a world very remote from the War. Which it did, though of course that was about to change in a very big way.

http://youtu.be/FyKE2N7EQVg

Further details are at http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=2#entry171659.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Broadland Boy on August 25, 2015, 01:19:21 AM
That works nicely Bob

I suppose that in terms of pre recorded music the era of the recorded voice was probably still the province of the 'better heeled' while the various barrel, disk & roll playing playing weapons of mass destruction would be the main source of tunes for the great unwashed so the making up of lyrics, ribald or otherwise, was perhaps more the norm than repetition of an existing song and tune which came later ?

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 25, 2015, 02:24:53 AM
I suppose that in terms of pre recorded music the era of the recorded voice was probably still the province of the 'better heeled' while the various barrel, disk & roll playing playing weapons of mass destruction would be the main source of tunes for the great unwashed so the making up of lyrics, ribald or otherwise, was perhaps more the norm than repetition of an existing song and tune which came later ?

A Tin Pan Alley song like this one was probably performed in vaudeville revues, and distributed on 78 rpm records, cylinders (winding up their run, but still around in 1917), piano rolls and--most widespread and probably cheapest of all--sheet music. A Victrola was a prized piece of cabinetry, more impressive as a status symbol than a typical piano. But amateur performance in the home hadn't quite been displaced by mechanical reproduction, and radio wasn't a factor yet.

In middle class households with access to one or more of those formats, repetition was surely the goal. Only where Tin Pan Alley songs were passed along by word of mouth did the Folk Process set in. When I first immersed myself in American old-time music back in the '70s, I was drawn to all the clever novelty songs sung by performers like Uncle Dave Macon and Charlie Poole, which I assumed were spontaneous and homegrown. Only much later did I realize how many of them had started life in a New York City song factory. Not that that matters, really: once reworked by "folk" performers they're often hard to recognize, and sometimes better than the originals.

On the other hand, some of those "folk" performers would be bemused to hear us describing them that way; in their own time they were just trying to be professional musicians...

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 28, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
One more offering this week, the frothy but formidably titled "Would You Rather Be a Colonel with an Eagle on Your Shoulder or a Private with a Chicken on Your Knee?"

http://youtu.be/R2PI49aTa_4

Details at http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=2#entry171770.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 31, 2015, 01:52:45 PM
And here's one of the more famous WWI songs, at least on this side of the Atlantic: Al Piantadosi and Alfred Bryan's "I Didn't Raise My Boy To Be a Soldier" (1915).

http://youtu.be/Zfl7QBVDmNs

Further details at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=2#entry171791

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Jack Campin on August 31, 2015, 03:15:37 PM
A song from WW1 that actually mentions a free-reed instrument - "Mizika calindi" ("the mouth organ was played"), a bleak Turkish song about the defeat of the troops sent to Yemen on the Mesopotamian front:

http://www.turkuler.com/nota/ezgi_mizika_calindi_yemen_turkusu.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiAMdq_nrTs

It's a folk song, not a commercial number, and there are innumerable variants (of the words: the tune usually stays the same).  A Turkish/Armenian collaboration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3oUIx1VtMw

There are LOTS of Turkish songs about the war, but I have yet to see one that has anything like the patriotic boosterism of the well known English-language ones.  This particular one is seen to have present-day relevance given what Turkey is getting dragged into.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Jack Campin on August 31, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
Meanwhile, more songs from the other side.  Lyrics only, but I guess the tunes shouldn't be hard to find.

http://www.volksliederarchiv.de/lieder-nach-zeit17.html

The country that lost the most people during the war was Russia, and they must have songs about it.  Anybody?
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 31, 2015, 03:30:44 PM
A song from WW1 that actually mentions a free-reed instrument - "Mizika calindi" ("the mouth organ was played"), a bleak Turkish song about the defeat of the troops sent to Yemen on the Mesopotamian front

That's marvelous (if bleak), and the period images are just haunting. Thanks for posting the links.

I wish I had the language skills to follow the lyrics, but I suspect that that's going to have to be a project for another lifetime.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on August 31, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
Meanwhile, more songs from the other side.

Thanks, Jack; these are terrific (and in this instance I can even make some sense of the words!).

Even the commercial, American songs can be pretty hard to come by, so hearing these other voices is a real treat.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 04, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
One more song from the period just after the war, the first in this series (though probably not the last) by Irving Berlin.

"I've Got My Captain Working for Me Now":

http://youtu.be/bu2ykWcNMdc

Further details at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=2

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 09, 2015, 10:36:49 PM
Here's "I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now," a familiar old chorus radically transformed (to my ear) by the restoration of long-forgotten verses:

http://youtu.be/bvnoFF_-r3E

As usual, more details can be found across the hall:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=3

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Jack Campin on September 09, 2015, 11:55:43 PM
This site has a LOT, wide-ranging and very well organized:

http://www.firstworldwar.com/audio/

I used it a couple of years ago to put together a compilation for an old folks home - worked really well, but I then mislaid the link.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 10, 2015, 12:00:54 AM
This site has a LOT, wide-ranging and very well organized

That is indeed a wonderful site; thanks for the link.

I've been enjoying this one, too, though it's not musical in orientation:

http://ww1blog.osborneink.com

Bob Michel
Near Philly

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 15, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
Entry #9 is a sentimental song of a type very popular in those years. "Three Wonderful Letters from Home" scored a big hit in 1918.

http://youtu.be/OuZtthwi9ug

Details are at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=3#entry172311

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 18, 2015, 06:54:57 AM
Entry #10 is among the most famous WWI songs, in this country at least: the 1918 Irving Berlin hit "Oh! How I Hate To Get Up in the Morning."

http://youtu.be/WA2v4P06OVc

One grows to appreciate Berlin's range as a songwriter: accompanied on concertina, this one could almost have come out of Colm O Lochlainn's "Irish Street Ballads." Details, as usual, are a click away:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=4#entry172380.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 22, 2015, 04:22:15 PM
The eleventh song in this little anthology, "America, Here's My Boy," is a bit of pro-war propaganda from early 1917, which pointedly alludes to the 1915 anti-war classic "I Didn't Raise My Boy To Be a Soldier" (recorded earlier in the series):

http://youtu.be/qKK41zQ3Puo

Additional discussion at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=4#entry172509

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 25, 2015, 09:36:43 PM
Number 12: Back to the home front, and to 1915, for the irresistibly named "When It's Orange Blossom Time in Loveland, I'll Be Waiting at the Church for You."

http://youtu.be/TSPHFcUhMKU

Details at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=5#entry172624

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on September 25, 2015, 11:50:45 PM
.

    Lovely ::)
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 26, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
.

    Lovely ::)

Oh, I've heard worse songs.

Probably not all the way through. But I know I've heard them.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on September 30, 2015, 06:18:59 PM
With entry #13 we return to some better-known repertoire, and to a timeless question, with "How Ya Gonna Keep 'Em Down on the Farm...?" (1919):

Further remarks are at:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=5#entry172785

Bob Michel
Near Philly

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on October 06, 2015, 07:10:16 PM
More WWI-era concertinizing. Entry #14 is W.C. Handy's "Yellow Dog Blues" (1919):

http://youtu.be/eFm023F8I8k

First (and unsuccessfully) published in 1915 as the "Yellow Dog Rag," it marks the waning of one big popular craze and the advent of what would prove to be a much bigger (and longer-lived) one.

Further details:

http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=17935&page=5#entry172907

Bob Michel
Near Philly

Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: jack on October 11, 2015, 01:12:30 PM
Hi Bob

Here’s one you might not have heard - my singing partner Alison’s friend found in a charity shop a couple of years back! Hope you like it, here's the rest of the text..

On his second day's leave, on his second day's leave, he'd every kind of sport you could conceive!
The man next door who always met him in town at the station
Had eaten pickled onions 'til his voice had inflammation
So Tommy put his gas-mask on to hear the conversation!
On his second day home on leave!

On his third day’s leave, on his third day’s leave, he'd every kind of sport you could conceive!
He started drinking whisky till it swelled his khaki figure
He even poured it down his gun and rammed it with his jigger
Then gave it to a man and said ‘For God’s sake pull the trigger!’
On his third day home on leave!

On his fourth.. etc.
The neighbours asked him how he got his wound at Chateau Gully
So he explained they always his the part exposed most fully
They all guessed where it was, ‘cos he was stooping for his bully
On his fourth day home on leave!

On his fifth.. etc.
He wed his girl in church and then he took her to the racecourse
That night he kept his spurs on crying ‘Tally-ho!’ with great force
She said ‘Am I your wife or do you think that I’m a racehorse?!’
On his fifth day home on leave!

On his sixth day’s leave, on his sixth day’s leave, they gave a little concert to relieve!
They sang ‘The Death Of Nelson’ and a song called ‘Life Is Ending’
‘The Collier’s Dying Child’ and ‘Mother’s Grave, Sweet Flowers We’re Sending’
He said ‘Is this a concert or an inquest I’m attending?!’
On his sixth day home on leave!

On his seventh day’s leave, on his seventh day’s leave, he'd every kind of sport you could conceive!
He couldn’t find his trousers and the train, he daren’t detain it
His wife said ‘I know what to do!’ and whispered to explain it
So he went back with silk stockings with suspenders and a bay’net!
On his seventh day’s home on leave!
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Theo on October 11, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
Is there any free reed content on this topic now?
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Ryall on October 11, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
Aaaw, Theo!   ::)  Just click the links …  any of Bob's posts ;)

Singing with Melodeon or any squeezebox isn't easy, as I've found out and many threads here have attested.
It would be a shame IMO to lock out something that offers success in this field of 'free reed' artistry :|glug
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on October 11, 2015, 03:11:00 PM
Is there any free reed content on this topic now?

It's a concertina thing (as explained in the original post), the teens of the last century being to my mind a sort of high-water mark for that instrument. The point is not just to recreate the old songs (as enjoyable as that is), but to do so while exploring the possibilities of free reed accompaniment, as it might have been used in that day.

I've only cross-posted here from www.concertina.net to encourage discussion (and maybe even participation) among members who might also be concertinists, period enthusiasts or both. If that initiative seems too remote from this forum's more proper concerns, then please feel free to delete the thread.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on October 11, 2015, 03:23:40 PM
Here’s one you might not have heard

Jack--

Many thanks for that; no, I've never heard it, in fact. Do you know of a period source and/or tune for it?

It's not lost on me that my own little repertoire of WWI songs draws heavily on home front material, as opposed to authentic soldiers' songs (though there are a few of the latter in the pipeline). Obviously the bellicose fantasies of Tin Pan Alley had nearly nothing to do with the experience of the men who fought. In fact much of the popular songs' poignancy, for me, derives from their cluelessness. But to my mind a song that actually came out of the trenches is worth fifty of the Tin Pan Alley sort.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: jack on October 11, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Hi Bob

Sorry should've said - the tune, chords, verse and first chorus are on the attached pdf file.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Bob Michel on October 11, 2015, 03:44:34 PM
Hi Bob

Sorry should've said - the tune, chords, verse and first chorus are on the attached pdf file.

Got it; thanks! The tablet I'm using had balked at opening that file. But I'll check it out on the computer at the first opportunity.

Bob Michel
Near Philly
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: jack on October 11, 2015, 03:52:28 PM
The source btw was a published song sheet of the era, that I haven't seen. Alison and I did it a couple of times with a D/G.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Scotty Gring on February 13, 2019, 02:56:21 AM
This might be my favorite new thread (hell, they're all new to me).  I am addicted to 1920s early jazz, dixieland and tin pan alley stuff.  I listen to the 40s junction on satellite radio and it amazes me how so much of the big band stuff of the late 30s/early 40s was just amped up early 20th century stuff.  I hear it and always think about how it would translate to the accordion.  Definitely staying tuned on this one...
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Phil Howard on February 15, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
John Kirkpatrick’s “Songs from the trenches” covers similar ground, with plentiful free reeds to accompany the singing, so may be of interest to those who’re unfamiliar.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Jesse Smith on February 15, 2019, 02:07:40 PM
John Kirkpatrick’s “Songs from the trenches” covers similar ground, with plentiful free reeds to accompany the singing, so may be of interest to those who’re unfamiliar.

I definitely second the recommendation; it's a great record. A bit less "folk/trad" than his usual repertoire but maybe not so far from the music hall stuff that he did with Umps and Dumps, etc. Some very funny songs on this record, too.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Frank Pallister on February 15, 2019, 06:59:31 PM
one of the best known parodies was the moon shines bright on charlie Chaplin to the tune of red wing
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Peadar on February 16, 2019, 02:41:27 PM
Quote
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery,

Lillibulero? wasn't that was the marching song of Butcher Cumberland's red army? c.1745.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: george garside on February 16, 2019, 02:59:33 PM
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag, Long way to tipparary and also a vast number of pipe tunes composed during or about ww1 . to name just a few,

battle of the somme
heights of dargai
flowers of the forest
bloody fields of flanders

etc etc etc

george
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on February 16, 2019, 05:19:06 PM
Quote
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery,

Lillibulero? wasn't that was the marching song of Butcher Cumberland's red army? c.1745.

As sung by Fergus Mav-Ivor in Scott's Waverley, before fighting for the Bonnie Prince.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Chris Rayner on March 19, 2019, 05:11:26 PM
Quote
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery,

Lillibulero? wasn't that was the marching song of Butcher Cumberland's red army? c.1745.

As sung by Fergus Mav-Ivor in Scott's Waverley, before fighting for the Bonnie Prince.

According to Wikipedia it was originally composed by Henry Purcell, and became popular around the time of the Glorious Revolution.
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 19, 2019, 05:22:38 PM
Quote
Lillibulero (sp?) is a tune of the era (and probably older)  and was sung to by the WWI soldiery,

Lillibulero? wasn't that was the marching song of Butcher Cumberland's red army? c.1745.

As sung by Fergus Mav-Ivor in Scott's Waverley, before fighting for the Bonnie Prince.

According to Wikipedia it was originally composed by Henry Purcell, and became popular around the time of the Glorious Revolution.

AKA Rock A Bye Baby
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Phil Howard on March 19, 2019, 06:39:00 PM
AKA Rock A Bye Baby

A new connection to me, I like it. If only I could sing...
Title: Re: Songs of the WWI era
Post by: Gareth Sprack on March 19, 2019, 07:29:01 PM
For me the only songs of WW1, are those sung by the soldiers themselves, some of which which were taught to me by my long dead pal Albert.
so my list
Whiter than the whitewash on the wall
The bells of hell
Bombed last night
I want to go home
When this lousy war is over
We are Fred Karnoe's army
Hush here comes a whizz-bang
Oh we don't want to loose you
I don't want to be a soldier
We're here because

There are many more.
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