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Title: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 26, 2009, 09:02:48 AM
The sainted Mrs Hallelujah determined a little while ago that we needed a new kitchen. I couldn’t see why – although a few of the doors and cupboards were falling apart. Even the mice had started to protest. Well, after much soul searching and trawling around showrooms and many visits of erstwhile sales-people later a kitchen was duly ordered.
Today is the fateful day…and already a workman (on his own and with nothing that looks like a kitchen about his person) has arrived and already demanded his first cup of tea. I have retreated to the safety of the my office…this sets me to thinking. I wonder if there’ll be any bits of the old kitchen I could use:
a) in the restoration of the Heligonka?
b) in perhaps building my very own ‘Kitchen Sink Melodeon’?

Has anyone ever built or designed a kitchen sink melodeon. You know, a melodeon made up of easily obtainable and household parts?

Be interested to know as it's a thought I'm toying with. Especially now that I've got a complete 'old' kitchen to dispose of. Any other musical instruments along these lines?
AL ;D
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: TomB-R on May 26, 2009, 09:26:26 AM
I got a very useful amount of timber for recycling when a friend replaced the kitchen in his house and have been very pleased with what I've used so far.

Mind you, it did help that all the doors were fielded panels of solid mahogany!
Tom
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Owen Woods on May 26, 2009, 09:51:43 AM
I'm not sure what you'd use for reeds...
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: xgx on May 26, 2009, 10:06:16 AM
I'm not sure what you'd use for reeds...

Yoghurt pots.... works for bagpipe reeds :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 26, 2009, 10:09:37 AM
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Yoghurt pots....

Got to be worth a go. But there's quite a light metal that forms part of our old oven 'hood' that may service as reed material. Any more suggestions - from high tech to low tech?
AL
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: TomB-R on May 26, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
Any tumble dryer "concertina" ducting/hose that could be used, (maybe several in parallel) for bellows! ;D
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on May 26, 2009, 10:53:27 AM
See my avatar:
The wood is from the 1930's kitchen unit that was in the house when I moved in, the bellows are ventilation ducting, keys are from an old IBM computerand, coathangers, old Suede, some webbing and an old belt finish it off. The reeds were from 2 £2.99 harmonicas (it is in C) and the vital component that was only added when the MSO was up and running was several yards of knicker elastic to stop the bellows inflating on the push.
This was made for a bet when I foolishly declared that any instrument could be made fro under £10 pounds. It has lasted a good ten years and has been played at several folk clubs most notably Oxford just before Squeezy John on the evening he unveiled his Dm/Gm Pokerwork.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: TomB-R on May 26, 2009, 11:29:37 AM
Nice one Malcolm.
Could you post a bigger picture?
Tom
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: juker on May 26, 2009, 11:32:26 AM
'Today is the fateful day…and already a workman (on his own and with nothing that looks like a kitchen about his person) has arrived and already demanded his first cup of tea.'

This guy expected a cup of tea BEFORE installing the new kitchen? Didn't he know what you wanted the kitchen for? I hope you just shook your head sadly and went off and practised some maudlin tunes!
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 26, 2009, 11:34:40 AM
Ah - kettle still remains on the go!


Malcolm - brilliant! That's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of. Bigger picture please!



mmmmm...should get a few melodeons out of this little lot!


Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: TomB-R on May 26, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
mmmmm...should get a few melodeons out of this little lot!


What are those doors made of, Al?  :D
Tom
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Owen Woods on May 26, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Yeah, I want a bigger picture (:) £10 you say? Cheaper than a Castagnari :P
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on May 26, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
OK I give up how do I insert an image?
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: TomB-R on May 26, 2009, 01:57:12 PM
Reply
Additional options (on the left)
and browse to your image (within the size limit.)
Tom
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on May 26, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Reply
Additional options (on the left)
and browse to your image (within the size limit.)
Tom

Still no image
I get as far as selecting the image with the browse and then what? nothing happens

Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Lars on May 26, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
Any other musical instruments along these lines?
AL ;D

Back in 2003 I played an entire festival including two gigs and loads of sessions, on a spam-tin-ukulele. Using the can from the so-called-meat-substanse and a few bits from an old mandolin, I had myself a 4 string wonder. Price: about 2 euros.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: triskel on May 26, 2009, 03:28:16 PM
The reeds were from 2 £2.99 harmonicas

 ;D That was my first thought for reeds, when the topic came up - but you beat us all to it by a long way! I often explain accordions to people by telling 'em that the reed blocks are "only glorified harmonicas".  ::)
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on May 26, 2009, 04:16:50 PM
Here is an external link Malodeun (http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/Malodeon/Malodeun/?action=view&current=IMG_7413.jpg)

Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Ellie on May 26, 2009, 04:21:18 PM
Ha, I particularly like the keyboard keys! Look forward to seeing what you come up with Al ;D
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: ladydetemps on May 26, 2009, 04:24:02 PM
Any other musical instruments along these lines?
AL ;D

Back in 2003 I played an entire festival including two gigs and loads of sessions, on a spam-tin-ukulele. Using the can from the so-called-meat-substanse and a few bits from an old mandolin, I had myself a 4 string wonder. Price: about 2 euros.
did you play monty pythons 'Spam song'? ;)
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: ladydetemps on May 26, 2009, 04:55:21 PM
Ha, I particularly like the keyboard keys! Look forward to seeing what you come up with Al ;D
a QWERTY melodeon? ;)
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Rees on May 26, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
I love the bellows.  :||:
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Owen Woods on May 26, 2009, 10:14:06 PM
That is so amazing that I cannot quite express it in words.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 26, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
Malodeun is wonderful - the bellows don't manifest themselves in your avatar - but when we see them close it's fab!

Man, that's cheered me up no end. Let's all make our own melodeons (:)

Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: xgx on May 27, 2009, 12:31:53 AM
Malodeun is wonderful - the bellows don't manifest themselves in your avatar - but when we see them close it's fab!

Man, that's cheered me up no end. Let's all make our own melodeons (:)

Hallelujah!

Strong echo from here...'mazin stuff...keys !!!!M  A  L ...... ;D

(I've had these mouth organs for a while now and was wondering what to do do with the duplicates acquired over time {OK bought another 'cos it seemed like a good idea at the time [a workshop] and I'd forgotten that I ALREADY HAD ONE!!}
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Alison Scott on May 27, 2009, 09:11:43 AM
Here is an external link Malodeun (http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/Malodeon/Malodeun/?action=view&current=IMG_7413.jpg)



I am in awe. It's fantastic. Who needs Emanuelle Pariselle? To be fair, it does look like 'less than £10' but rather a lot of hard work. Correct?

What did you use for the bass reeds?
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on May 27, 2009, 12:42:16 PM
£6.67 to be exact.
£2.99 for each of the harmonicas and 69p for several yards of knicker elastic. The bass reeds are the low ends of the two harmonicas and so produce a rhythmic, vaguely related and slightly lower accompaniment. I must say that it sounds nothing like a melodeon or a harmonica and is quite hard to play but I did get my free pint out of it which is probably more than I have every earned from my other playing!
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Andy Simpson on May 27, 2009, 01:30:52 PM
I did get my free pint out of it

But you could have bought two pints and some nuts or crisps with the money you spent to get that one pint...  ;D

Seriously, my hat goes off to you, sir. :o
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Owen Woods on May 27, 2009, 03:03:51 PM
But you could have bought two pints and some nuts or crisps with the money you spent to get that one pint...  ;D

Seriously, my hat goes off to you, sir. :o

But then you wouldn't have a box out of it :P
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: triskel on May 27, 2009, 03:45:25 PM
Ha, I particularly like the keyboard keys! Look forward to seeing what you come up with Al ;D

Well he did say that he wanted one "with a typewriter keyboard on the RH side" only a month ago:

Any chance you could build me an accordion with a typewriter keyboard on the RH side -querty tuning would be fine?
AL ;)
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: pipives on May 28, 2009, 06:13:27 PM
I'm not sure what you'd use for reeds...

Clock springs, cut down. Mind you, you'd have to find some old clocks from somewhere!
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: The Cidermaker on May 28, 2009, 08:00:30 PM


I expect most people have seen the box that Emannuel Pariselle makes from a couple of Cammenbert Cheese boxes and a legnth of ventilation ducting- quite amazing
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on June 01, 2009, 08:28:02 AM
I'm not sure what you'd use for reeds...

Clock springs, cut down. Mind you, you'd have to find some old clocks from somewhere!

Clock spring would probably be too thin for most of the reeds.

I made two reeds from sheet aluminium and spring steel stock and then I gave up and used the harmonicas. It would have taken 10 times longer to make the reeds than it did to make the rest of the Malodeun.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: HallelujahAl on June 01, 2009, 10:07:15 AM
I heard of a guy out in Australia somewhere who made concertina reeds from clock springs. Apparently his concertinas were really good. I'm pulling all this stuff out of memory so can't remember names or anything. But I think if clock springs are good enough for australian 'tinas then maybe they'd be ok for malodourun?
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Rees on June 01, 2009, 10:32:32 AM
I remember Flaco Jimenez telling me that he and his father used to make reeds from clock springs, back in the days when spares were not so easily available.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on June 01, 2009, 12:04:34 PM
I obviously should have tried a bigger clock
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Malcolm Austen on July 16, 2009, 09:23:55 AM
I have just found the first reed that I made or should I say 1/2 a reed plate, this was in A and played not too bad.
Title: Re: Kitchen Sink Melodeon?
Post by: Steve_freereeder on July 16, 2009, 10:57:53 AM
I obviously should have tried a bigger clock
Like this one?
(http://www.chooseurfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/big-ben.jpg)