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Title: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Clive Williams on December 31, 2016, 08:07:21 PM
Happy new year everyone; this month's clear winner is Stephane Durand's schottische.

With thanks to those on the poll thread, here's some abc

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Rue des Prés
C:Stéphane Durand
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:Schottische
V:1 name=V1 sname=V1
V:2 namE=V2 sname=V2 transpose=-12
%%barnumbers 1
Q:1/4=140
K:G
V:1
B2G2 GBAG|B2F2 FBBd|c3B AGAB|B2A2A2GA|
B2G2 GBAG|B2F2 FBBd|c3B AGAB|1A6 GA:|2A3B ABcd||
|:eg e4 dc|eg e4 fe|d3e d2 Bd|G6 EF|
G2G2 GEGA|B2F2F2 Bd|c3 B AGAB|1A3 B ABcd:|2A6 GA|]
V:2
G2 EF GcBc|F2c2 AFGF|G3 G ABcd|d2 F4 BA|
G2 EF GBcB|F2c2 AFGF|G3 g ABcd|1d6 BA:|2d6 BA||
|:cdcB AGBA|cded cBdc|B3c B2 GF|G6 GA|
B2B2 dBGF|G2F2 D2 FG|E3 G ABcd|1d3 d cBAG:|2d6 AB|

...and a couple of decent versions of it...

https://youtu.be/8nrIZpiQt-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0R38-nufkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGXAb4qLLI&t=46s

Happy playing!

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on January 01, 2017, 08:26:48 AM
Happy 2017

https://youtu.be/NAW_FqoiQ2I

Best wishes from Suffolk

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Joan Kureczka on January 01, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
I was happy when this tune came up, because we were already very fond of it and had planned a recording. So, here's my debut post on the Melnet TOTM. Happy New Year! Excuse the mediocre sound quality -- this was just done with a pocket camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvP746npI4s
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 01, 2017, 07:15:16 PM
Like Arty's New Year's resolution, I feel it is time for me to get out some. Lots of work to be had, but I'm trying to get used to creating variations on the fly as part of the escaping the dots process. There are obvious weaknesses for me, in that my fingers lag behind my intentions, creating a woolly quality to the rhythm. But this is early days.
With all that preamble here is an unlisted version of Rue Des Pres, including noodling as I go.
I think that noodling should be kept to a private activity normally, but in the interest of Tune of the Month - here it is. I might decide to cement a variation or two, in which case I may rerecord it.
Excuses over.
Rue Des Pres (https://youtu.be/eeeNWzkwAHA)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Ellisteph on January 02, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Like Arty's New Year's resolution, I feel it is time for me to get out some. Lots of work to be had, but I'm trying to get used to creating variations on the fly as part of the escaping the dots process. There are obvious weaknesses for me, in that my fingers lag behind my intentions, creating a woolly quality to the rhythm. But this is early days.
With all that preamble here is an unlisted version of Rue Des Pres, including noodling as I go.
I think that noodling should be kept to a private activity normally, but in the interest of Tune of the Month - here it is. I might decide to cement a variation or two, in which case I may rerecord it.
Excuses over.
Rue Des Pres (https://youtu.be/eeeNWzkwAHA)
That's really interesting.I think this tune lends itself to variations and I wouldn't really agree that they should be kept private. I'm slightly puzzled that you're improvising whilst still looking at the music - is that so that you can still see the structure of the music? Personally, I don't feel I can include variations until I know the tune really well and the dots in front of me would be more of a distraction than an aid.
But then we're all different and need to do what works for us. Thanks for posting - I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 02, 2017, 11:28:32 AM
I look at the music for the structure and the chords. And to jump back into the tune again. Glad you didn't object to the sharing of work in progress. Someone here did!  Oh well I guess we upload at the risk of censure or praise. Thanks for providing the balance.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 02, 2017, 12:03:08 PM
I think this shows the difference between those with a formal music background as opposed to those with a more basic knowledge from gained from playing box, as mine is.
Like Ellisteph, I need to really know a tune well before I can go off piste, and am quite amazed at an ability to work out structure and improvise on the hoof from the sheet music!
Just reminds me that we're a broad church here and that gives us a wonderful insight into various ways to play tunes.

p&t: thank you, I enjoyed your version, and your box sounds nice too!
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 02, 2017, 12:08:34 PM
Thanks, the real skill would be to be able to do it whilst keeping the style and rhythm. That's mainly not really knowing where the notes are (compared to doing it on a clarinet or piano for example). As DiatoSoldo explored in her video 'horrors' post, finding out that it isn't as successful as we'd hoped should be an opportunity to work on it!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 02, 2017, 02:07:02 PM
I think it's good to compare people's approach and also learn from one another.
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Anahata on January 02, 2017, 06:57:51 PM
I need to really know a tune well before I can go off piste, and am quite amazed at an ability to work out structure and improvise on the hoof from the sheet music!

I think the key to this is that experienced readers of music (especially if they also sing or play another instrument) can "hear" a tune their head when they see it on paper. Well enough, for example, to be able to recognise a tune immediately without having to play the notes to find out what it is. It's a basic skill that we all take for granted when reading text, which we can all do because we've had about a million hours of practice.
If you can do that, you can also see/hear in your head what the underlying chords are likely to be, and thus make up harmonies and variations.

The fiddle player in my ceilidh band has an amazing ability not only to play at sight (any classically trained musician can do that) but also make up harmonies the second or third time though, and then carry on playing the tune if you take the music away! I find that combination of sight reading ability and memory impressive because most musicians are good at either one or the other, but not both.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 02, 2017, 07:40:23 PM
Yes, 'experienced readers of music' is the key.
I read dots fairly often though not daily and when I do for a short length of time. I can see that if I had been involved in music in a more formal way and thereby read daily for long periods for band/orchestral work etc then it must become second nature and like reading text.
It only goes to prove the proverb 'practice makes perfect'.
Your fiddle player sounds like one of those people that you come across infrequently, but when they do their skills are incredible.
Ah well, back to practice.....
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Clive Williams on January 22, 2017, 10:42:25 AM
Right you lazy lot, like Lazarus, I have arisen from my shoulder injury and recorded this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0a5xZtJhBE

It's on a Castagnari Lilly in A/D (lightest box I've got) since I've still got a long way to go on the road to recovery, but it's a good start I think. Didn't know this one before, and haven't had much opportunity to practice it (can't play more than about 10 mins at the moment), so it's a little rough round the edges. But here we go....

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 22, 2017, 10:59:28 AM
Welcome back. Tune of the Month is a great motivator.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Baron Collins-Hill on January 22, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
Here's my submission:

https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE (https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE)

Thanks,
Baron
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Jackhumphreys on January 23, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
Well if Clive can do it so musically with an injured shoulder, there's no excuse for not posting.....specially as it's French.

https://youtu.be/PhrI6GG8Zy8

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Jackhumphreys on January 23, 2017, 08:09:44 PM
Here's my submission:

https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE (https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE)

Thanks,
Baron

Just listened to this after sending my simple version. Full of admiration for your arrangement and playing, Baron. Lovely use of different voices and interesting new harmonies with the notes squashed together plus the insistent pulsing. The box sounds really beautiful in this recording, listening on headphones. Who knew a DG could sound so deep and round in the bass?   Your sensitive playing has revealed hidden beauties in what I thought was just a simple dance tune.  Thank you.  I shall be listening and learning from your videos now.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue des Pres
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on January 24, 2017, 04:40:13 AM
I need to really know a tune well before I can go off piste, and am quite amazed at an ability to work out structure and improvise on the hoof from the sheet music!

I think the key to this is that experienced readers of music (especially if they also sing or play another instrument) can "hear" a tune their head when they see it on paper. Well enough, for example, to be able to recognise a tune immediately without having to play the notes to find out what it is. It's a basic skill that we all take for granted when reading text, which we can all do because we've had about a million hours of practice.
If you can do that, you can also see/hear in your head what the underlying chords are likely to be, and thus make up harmonies and variations.

The fiddle player in my ceilidh band has an amazing ability not only to play at sight (any classically trained musician can do that) but also make up harmonies the second or third time though, and then carry on playing the tune if you take the music away! I find that combination of sight reading ability and memory impressive because most musicians are good at either one or the other, but not both.
Well said, i was just reading earlier posts and had not read your response yet, when I had the thought that when I look at a piece of sheet music, i can hear the music played in my head as I read it, then silently learn it by ear from myself if I want to retain it for long term retrivial. I enjoy watching youtube videos and then play along or improvise. There is an expression I like: "getting past the notes".  this is when a musican can interpret, emote, improvise etc., rather the play a robotic, rigid always the same response. It helps to have a firm grasp of one's instrument an thus not be struggling with the mechanics of playing the instrument. I love the point where a musical instrument becomes an extention of my expressive perception. During my first few hours of melodeon manipulation, I was very aware of the seeming nonergonomic hand position requred. Now it feels like a well formed glove to to each hand. With certain other instruments which I have played much longer, i can have a spontaneous, improvisational monologe or conversation as simply as talking to another person.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on January 24, 2017, 04:52:27 AM
Here's my submission:

https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE (https://youtu.be/1ly0JdMpWYE)

Thanks,
Baron
I, also enjoyed your rendetion of this tune. Thanks for sharing with the group.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: TomBom on January 24, 2017, 02:37:28 PM
Jack, this is very nice. You inspired me to play it on a single row. Your second try has so much rhythm. I like the contrast to yesterday's smooth version. Don't delete that, please. It's so interesting to compare these two.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 24, 2017, 03:06:27 PM
Is the bathroom chosen for acoustics or are you banished from living rooms? I'll have a proper listen later.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Thoon on January 25, 2017, 02:47:55 PM
Hello,
Thanks for the registering. I do not speak english very well... Here is a short submission of this tune "rue des prés" that the forum made me remember. Perhaps one of the first scottish I learned on melodeon... And the opportunity to test my new phone for self recording.. Now I only play chromatic accordion and concertina. "Tune of the month" is an opportunity for me to keep practicing melodeon!..

https://youtu.be/E0FTOflmM-k
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 25, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
Welcome. Nothing wrong with your English and certainly very nice playing. Nice boat too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Jackhumphreys on January 25, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Hello,
Thanks for the registering. I do not speak english very well... Here is a short submission of this tune "rue des prés" that the forum made me remember. Perhaps one of the first scottish I learned on melodeon... And the opportunity to test my new phone for self recording.. Now I only play chromatic accordion and concertina. "Tune of the month" is an opportunity for me to keep practicing melodeon!..

https://youtu.be/E0FTOflmM-k

I really love that rock solid rhythm. You've really nailed it!   So glad you're going to post here.  We will learn a lot.  What kind of melodeon is that?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Baron Collins-Hill on January 25, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
Yes, beautiful playing Thoon!

Thanks,
Baron
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Roland Carson on January 25, 2017, 10:43:31 PM
Hi,
We were just playing this when I saw that it's the tune this month !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZ-cBLy_g0

Roland & Laetitia
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: penn on January 29, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
I haven't had much time this month so it's a first take, and I had a slight panic when I got to the end and realised I'd not worked out a way to finish it.
https://youtu.be/d8iNIKnLokg (https://youtu.be/d8iNIKnLokg)
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Roland Carson on January 29, 2017, 05:01:04 PM
I like what you did there Penn..It has a nice feel to it. This tune is just so catchy :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: penn on January 29, 2017, 09:55:14 PM
Thanks very much Roland. Catchy - yes indeed. I didn't vote for it, but it caught up on me after watching all the videos.
Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Mcgrooger on January 30, 2017, 05:23:40 PM
Apologies for my long absence from TOTM.  Here's my go at this month's tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qlynENVmr0
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Daddy Long Les on January 30, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
Apologies for my long absence from TOTM.  Here's my go at this month's tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qlynENVmr0
Very nice - as usual!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Tamba on January 30, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
Hooray McGrooger is back!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on January 31, 2017, 01:55:59 AM
Must confess that I warmed to this month's theme very slowly, but after all the lovely submissions we've had, I was completely won over. Thanks to Mr. Durand for his tune and the nice people at melnet who brought it to my attention.

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWgTrMaQh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWgTrMaQh8)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: playandteach on January 31, 2017, 09:14:30 AM
Nicely done.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on January 31, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
Must confess that I warmed to this month's theme very slowly, but after all the lovely submissions we've had, I was completely won over. Thanks to Mr. Durand for his tune and the nice people at melnet who brought it to my attention.

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWgTrMaQh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTWgTrMaQh8)
Thanks for posting this video. I particularly enjoyed your version. After listening once, I grabbed a melodeon and felt compelled to play along during my second time viewing it. I hadn't learned the tune, but the clarity of your playing made it possible to learn by ear, before the end of my first viewing.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Clive Williams on February 01, 2017, 01:06:24 PM
End of this month and onto the next; stick late contributions on the end here as ever!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on February 02, 2017, 01:11:42 AM

Thanks for posting this video. I particularly enjoyed your version. After listening once, I grabbed a melodeon and felt compelled to play along during my second time viewing it. ...

Thanks, Mr. V. It is such an engaging tune. Nice to know that both of us are finding it so rewarding to play. Thanks also to Playandteach, both for his welcome comment above and for the many helpful contributions he makes to this forum.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Fred on February 02, 2017, 01:15:14 AM
Hello everyone,

I've already commented on this thread yesterday (that is before January ended) but sadly the server transition has somehow deleted my user and posts.

All of your versions/variations have been a great pleasure to listen to, especially Mcgrooger's and tjsmithdog5's recordings have been helpful to me so far.
I'm trying to learn the song myself now and the first part works out quite well so far. The second part is a bit of a riddle to me but I'm confident that I will get it sorted out. :-)
If I succeed one day, I will try to remember posting a recording of my own on here.

Best wishes from Germany,
Fred
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Fred on February 21, 2018, 07:59:11 PM
Alright, now I'm sorry to reinvigorate this year-old thread but I've just remembered my post on here. It's the one just above this one and I said that I will one day post a recording of the song how I play it. Well, now that I've been able to play it for quite a while (I'd say almost a year ;) ), I've figured that I should quickly record my interpretation of it. There's a big hickup at the end of the recording but other than that I'm relatively happy with this one-take. (:)

https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/rue-de-pres-take-1 (https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/rue-de-pres-take-1)

Best wishes from Germany,
Fred
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Ellisteph on February 21, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
Alright, now I'm sorry to reinvigorate this year-old thread but I've just remembered my post on here. It's the one just above this one and I said that I will one day post a recording of the song how I play it. Well, now that I've been able to play it for quite a while (I'd say almost a year ;) ), I've figured that I should quickly record my interpretation of it. There's a big hickup at the end of the recording but other than that I'm relatively happy with this one-take. (:)

https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/rue-de-pres-take-1 (https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/rue-de-pres-take-1)

Best wishes from Germany,
Fred
Nicely done Fred. It matters not that this is an old thread - in fact it is nice to be reminded of some of these old TOTM's - it makes me want to have another go at it. I recently posted a video which was three and a half years late but that is the beauty of TOTM - there is no time limit.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Nigel on April 16, 2018, 06:43:01 AM
I should have done this a long time ago, having suggested this tune for TOTM. This was not easy so hats off to those who regularly record on TOTM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrnG1d60x-0
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Winston Smith on April 16, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
Well done and thank you, Nigel. Nerve wracking, isn't it?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on April 16, 2018, 03:10:24 PM
.. This was not easy so hats off to those who regularly record on TOTM ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrnG1d60x-0

Nice one.
Recording an audio only take and posting to Soundcloud is an awful lot easier.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: playandteach on April 16, 2018, 06:35:06 PM
.. This was not easy so hats off to those who regularly record on TOTM ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrnG1d60x-0
Recording an audio only take and posting to Soundcloud is an awful lot easier.
Yes, well done, Nigel. I think the video route is so much more rewarding for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2017: Rue de Pres
Post by: Fred on April 16, 2018, 08:10:10 PM
.. This was not easy so hats off to those who regularly record on TOTM ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrnG1d60x-0
Recording an audio only take and posting to Soundcloud is an awful lot easier.
Yes, well done, Nigel. I think the video route is so much more rewarding for the rest of us.

Agreed on both points. :)