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Title: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Clive Williams on February 28, 2017, 09:33:45 PM
Well, here's a tune that if you don't know, you jolly well should! Written by Dave Whetstone, famous, well as famous as melodeon players get, for a stint with the Albion Band in the 1980's, and around where I live, for the classic lineup of the Cock and Bull Band. Made a rather cracking album "recently" (about 20 years ago) called the Resolution - full of self penned tunes; Dave's a cracking writer. And one of my favourite players too. But enough drooling.

- Beetle on the Wine - 32 bar reel written by Dave Whetstone of Albion Band/Cock and Bull Band fame. Here played by... me: https://youtu.be/ZoT3Bx1VGnw?t=2m (2nd tune in the set, starts 2 minutes in). Great tune, ideally suited to a 2 row melodeon.  I'm playing it in G on a G/C here (sorry for the confusion), but it would normally sit in D on a D/G.

Apologies, no music for this yet, but hopefully an ABC guru will be along before too long (pretty please!). Normally played in D on a D/G, where the basses work just beautifully.  Perhaps we'll get a D/G version soon too? In the meantime, you can find it on Spotify, played by Dave in the Albion Band, and also Paul Scourfield's recorded a version too.

Enjoy

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Lester on February 28, 2017, 09:42:48 PM
Apologies, no music for this yet, but hopefully an ABC guru will be along before too long (pretty please!).

Can't find it at any of my usual haunts, probably need one of our gallant transcribers to sort it from your recording
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: vof on February 28, 2017, 10:54:59 PM
It's the second tune of first track on the Albion Dance Band's Shuffle Off! (1983) where you can hear Dave himself playing it. Unfortunately, that's one of my old vinyl discs I haven't ripped yet so can't even offer a pirate mp3  >:E
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: playandteach on February 28, 2017, 11:13:39 PM
Just had a few listens and done a quick sketch of most of the right notes. This won't be accurate and doesn't have chords yet. But hopefully it will help someone who wants to get going quickly.

And just noticed that I haven't got the right title, oh well. Still it's a start. Nice tune. Sorry Clive that I've not got all the notes right yet. If anyone wants to make suggestions before I have a better chance to listen I will happily make the changes with no offence taken.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: howard mitchell on March 01, 2017, 02:32:31 PM
I had a listen to the Albion Band version on their 2009 album Dancing Days are Here Again and came up with the transcription - 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: syale on March 01, 2017, 03:02:42 PM
I did find this: http://www.rudemex.co.uk/Tune%20library/RM%20arrangements/Beetle%20on%20the%20Vine.pdf (http://www.rudemex.co.uk/Tune%20library/RM%20arrangements/Beetle%20on%20the%20Vine.pdf)

Stephen
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: GPS on March 01, 2017, 06:42:10 PM
It's the second tune of first track on the Albion Dance Band's Shuffle Off! (1983) where you can hear Dave himself playing it. Unfortunately, that's one of my old vinyl discs I haven't ripped yet so can't even offer a pirate mp3  >:E

My copy's in a box somewhere under the bed in the spare room - and I haven't got round to digitising it yet, either.  Must dig it out.....

Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Matthew B on March 01, 2017, 07:45:08 PM
Here's a quick stab at the abcs, as per Stephen's manuscript version:

X:1
T:Beetle on the Wine
C:Dave Whetstone
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
AG|:FAdB cBAG|FAdB cBAG|FA df edce|
d2f2d2cd|eA gf e2de|fedc B2cd|
|1edcB A2^G2|A6A=G:|2edcB ABcA|d6ef|]
|:g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|cdeg fedf|e2cde2ef|
g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|1cd e2 d2B2|A4A2ef:|2cdef g2c2|d6|]
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Lester on March 01, 2017, 07:59:17 PM
Corrected small error in ABC

X:1
T:Beetle on the Wine
C:Dave Whetstone
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
AG|:FAdB cBAG|FAdB cBAG|FA df edce|
d2f2d2cd|eA gf e2de|fedc B2cd|
|1edcB A2^G2|A6AG:|2edcB ABcA|d6ef|]
|:g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|cdeg fedf|e2cde2ef|
g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|1cd e2 d2B2|A4A2ef:|2cdef g2c2|d6|]
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Joan Kureczka on March 01, 2017, 08:11:34 PM
Ashley reissued Shuffle Off with one of the other Albion recordings a few years back in a package called "Dancing Days are Here Again."  Here's the cut from the CD, on Facebook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00a2SvMf9Lw

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: arty on March 01, 2017, 08:47:29 PM
When you click on your link Joan, it says "This video is not available".
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: syale on March 01, 2017, 08:48:47 PM
And with chords as per sheet music.

disclaimer: chords are open to interpretation!

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Beetle on the Wine
C:Dave Whetstone
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
AG|:"D"FAdB "A"cBAG|"D"FAdB "A"cBAG|"D"FA df "A7"edce|
"D"d2f2d2cd|"A"eA gf e2de|"Bm7"fedc "Em"B2cd|
|1"A"edcB A2"E7"^G2|"A7"A6AG:|2"A"edcB ABcA|"D"d6ef|]
|:"Em"g2ef gfe2|"D"f2d2"Bm7"B3d|"A"cdeg "D"fedf|"A"e2cde2ef|
"Em"g2ef "A7"gfe2|"D"f2d2"Bm7"B3d|1"A"cd e2 "G"d2B2|"A"A4A2ef:|2"A7"cdef g2c2|"D":d6|]
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Clive Williams on March 01, 2017, 08:55:03 PM
Thank you all :-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: 911377brian on March 01, 2017, 09:46:53 PM
Joan, "Video not available". :-\
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Melissa Sinclair on March 01, 2017, 10:04:08 PM
So weird - I've played it twice - it has an annoying ad, but it plays. I'll link it again, just in case this is better: https://youtu.be/00a2SvMf9Lw (https://youtu.be/00a2SvMf9Lw)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Lester on March 01, 2017, 10:08:49 PM
So weird - I've played it twice - it has an annoying ad, but it plays. I'll link it again, just in case this is better: https://youtu.be/00a2SvMf9Lw (https://youtu.be/00a2SvMf9Lw)

It's probably a region thing
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: syale on March 01, 2017, 11:14:28 PM
Found it here also: https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8 (https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8) , 2nd track begins at around 1 min 39 secs.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Matthew B on March 02, 2017, 01:22:51 AM
Corrected small error in ABC

Thanks!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 02, 2017, 11:00:46 AM
Found it here also: https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8 (https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8) , 2nd track begins at around 1 min 39 secs.

Not available. Is it  a UK thing?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Clive Williams on March 02, 2017, 11:12:43 AM
Found it here also: https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8 (https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8) , 2nd track begins at around 1 min 39 secs.

Not available. Is it  a UK thing?

No, I can't see it either. It's because it's a video taken from an album recording I think - I think the record company's contract with youtube must have ended - result = lots of orphan videos on youtube that no-one can play. Annoying. Paul's album (with this on it) is on Spotify and presumably similar services though.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: GPS on March 02, 2017, 11:26:09 AM
Found it here also: https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8 (https://youtu.be/0tGK63svPQ8) , 2nd track begins at around 1 min 39 secs.

Not available. Is it  a UK thing?

No;can't get it here either.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 02, 2017, 11:27:10 AM
I just bought the track from Amazon for £0.79

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Froggys-First-Jump-Beetle-Wine/dp/B0023BVJNQ

Greg
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on March 02, 2017, 04:15:45 PM
4 stop & DG

https://youtu.be/07T88-gJlOE

Welcome to Spring...

Best wishes

Bill

(PS there is a live album 'Albion' version on spotify)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Joan Kureczka on March 03, 2017, 03:11:57 PM
Wierd. Must be a regional thing. I haven't had problems accessing any of the links. Ah well.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 03, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
Wierd. Must be a regional thing. I haven't had problems accessing any of the links. Ah well.

It's not that uncommon. Presumably it's copyright issues.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 03, 2017, 11:21:38 PM
Corrected small error in ABC

Thanks!

Slight change in the punctuation, if you are going to start a line of music with a 1st time ending the |1 will work but it prints a barline at the beginning of the staff whereas [1 gives you the 1st time ending without the leading bar line.  ;)

X:1
T:Beetle on the Wine
C:Dave Whetstone
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
AG|:FAdB cBAG|FAdB cBAG|FA df edce|
d2f2d2cd|eA gf e2de|fedc B2cd|
[1edcB A2^G2|A6AG:|2edcB ABcA|d6ef|]
|:g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|cdeg fedf|e2cde2ef|
g2ef gfe2|f2d2B3d|1cd e2 d2B2|A4A2ef:|2cdef g2c2|d6|]
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Matthew B on March 04, 2017, 02:35:29 AM
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 04, 2017, 07:45:41 AM
Slight change in the punctuation, if you are going to start a line of music with a 1st time ending the |1 will work but it prints a barline at the beginning of the staff whereas [1 gives you the 1st time ending without the leading bar line.  ;)

Aha! I've learned something new. Thanks Pete!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Anahata on March 04, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
if you are going to start a line of music with a 1st time ending the |1 will work but it prints a barline at the beginning of the staff whereas [1 gives you the 1st time ending without the leading bar line.  ;)

Aha! I've learned something new. Thanks Pete!  (:)

I thought I'd learned something new too for a moment, but it's an application of the rule that the '1' must EITHER
follow the bar line immediately (not even a space between them) OR have a '[' in front of it.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 04, 2017, 08:50:08 AM
... OR have a '[' in front of it.
That's the bit I didn't know about!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Ceilidhchris on March 04, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
I remember learning this off the album Shuffle Off along with Froggies First Jump I think it was called, so thought I'd have a go!

https://youtu.be/WESxc9P7lbE

Chris
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 07, 2017, 12:42:20 PM
I thought I knew this tune...until I tried playing it. What a tricky blighter - hence quite a few dodgy notes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVtLRkrpM1A
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: arty on March 07, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
I thought I knew this tune...until I tried playing it. What a tricky blighter - hence quite a few dodgy notes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVtLRkrpM1A

Brilliant !
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: playandteach on March 07, 2017, 04:35:02 PM
Lovely honest recording. Well played.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 10, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Cracking stuff, both Chris and Mcgrooger!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 11, 2017, 08:41:09 PM
Thank you Pete. Most kind.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 11, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
Aha! I've learned something new. Thanks Pete!  (:)

Given the enormous amount of support you have provided for me over the years I reckon the thanks are unnecessary but they are gratefully received nonetheless!  ;)
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Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Clive Williams on March 12, 2017, 11:17:20 AM
Here's a quick take on this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdfovf9Bzwg on a Bb/Eb Preciosa. It's pretty much exactly the same as my G/C version, and not as accomplished/complete as some of the others here (I have clearly simplified a few bits!) but I leave it here as a humble offering to the group!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for March 2017: Beetle on the Wine
Post by: Clive Williams on April 01, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
Hi everyone - month up, and time to move onto the next tune. Stick late entries on the end here as ever!

Cheers,

Clive