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Title: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 29, 2017, 03:11:15 PM
Does anyone here have any advice on how to deal with DHL / UK-Mail?

I bought a Hohner Club IIIM earlier last week from someone in Germany and it was sent from Germany by DHL and then handed off to their subsidiary/partner company UK-Mail.

On Thursday, UK-Mail updated their tracking page to say my parcel was delivered to an address in London (I live in the West Country) and signed for by "Laura" (I don't know anyone named Laura).

After much faff and going round the houses, I finally got to speak to a person at UK-Mail who said they did indeed deliver a parcel with the tracking number I supplied (it was quoted to my by the DHL sight) and that it went to the address on the parcel (clearly not mine).

I confirmed to UK-Mail that the melodeon seller put the correct address on the parcel, dropped it off with DHL, who confirm they transferred it to England (and to the  UK-Mail depot), but UK-Mail say they have nothing on record with my name and address and it is nothing to do with them.

DHL say that because they sent it to England and UK-Mail accepted it, it's nothing to do with them.

Meanwhile, I've spent over 3 hours making phone calls and sending emails trying to track down my melodeon, to no avail.

I've never dealt with either of these companies before, the person who sold me the melodeon doesn't seem to answer emails on the weekend and I fear the longer this drags out the more likely it is the box will go walkies forever.

I've asked the seller to start a trace from his end, but as I've not had a reply to my mails yet, I have no idea whether he has or he hasn't.

My biggest concern is that a really nice instrument is going to end up in pieces somewhere, no good to anyone.

Any suggestions from those who make these sorts of purchases more often than I?

Thanks,

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on July 29, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Hmm a sorry tale.  Since you have drawn a complet blank with the courier can you contact the people at the address where the parcel has been delivered?
If that doesn't help then you might be able to get some help from eBay, assuming you bought it via eBay.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: MarioP on July 29, 2017, 04:04:17 PM
I had this same experience last month ..

My club III ended up in Canadian parcel!

I'm in the US south bottom thousands of miles away from Canada!

I waited to see if the Canadians would re route myway as my address was still showing in transit.

After about a week I decided to contact seller ( no escalated words no caps just a simple do you think my box will te route to USA )

As soon as I did that seller said they were in holidays in Germany but would look into getting back.

So 5 long awaited days more the box is stuck in Canada ( at least that's what tracking says)

I refuse to loose my temper as I'm known for doing that but I'm anxious checking tracking at least 10 times a day.

Seller gets the box and ships it again first time it was a missed weighted package.

The same thing happens the second time box ends up in Canada.

At this point seller refunds and tells me the box is mine but he has to get it back first he would keep
me posted.

From there on my anxiety to have a three voice box took over me I searched and found another box out Germany which arrived in the proposed time ( both times DHL)

Previous box that went to Canada has reappeared seller tried to pull a fast one via PayPal I told him to post on eBay but now I'm having second thoughts about this seller perhaps I should even report him.

But for the piece of mind I've decided to not go for that clu III even though deep inside I'm dying to get it. He did raise the price another 50 since repost. Another iffy gave second thoughts.

Anyways hoping this helps in short what I'm trying to say get eBay involved if the issue has reached an unacceptable amount of wait time ( normally a month wait time here in USA for European shipments)

eBay themselves say if the seller doesn't communicate after 4 days escalate!
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: folkloristmark on July 29, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
Ok the contract is with the sender not you. If you can not get any joy the only thing you can do is place the responsability were it lies with the sender seller. They contracted to send it to you and have failed, you request a refund its sounds harsh but they have to sort out the courier or take the loss or claim the insurance. If it was a proper ebay purchase then file a not receireved request and as you have proofs it was not delived to your order address then a refund will be issued. If you paid by Card and can not agree  a refund, then contact the card provider for one.If you made any other arrangements as to responsability for delivary it may be very hard to sort out. Be polite but firm if you dont get the melodeon it is usually the sellers contract that they will deliver the goods to your address.It is a risk we all take in trade and you have no control untill the goods arrive.Sorry fo your loss.If it was a mate and not a deal such is life. DHL used untill recently use parcelforce be wary of UK mail?
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 29, 2017, 04:29:07 PM
Many (and sincere) thanks to everyone.

I just feel sick at this point. Judging by the pics, it was a lovely box in great condition.

All I have is the postcode they delivered the parcel to (I have spent over 3 hours searching the internet for every possible phone number associated with that postcode and calling them), but no one I've spoken to says they have signed for anything. UK-Mail won't say exactly who they delivered it to. I've asked them to go on my behalf and ask did the recipient get a parcel with an accordion in it, but they haven't replied to this request.

I'll be filing a failure to receive goods ticket with eBay in the morning (as today was the last day in the delivery window, they said I couldn't file earlier than that).

The sender seems like a nice guy and seems to run a reputable business (I've found him online in Germany), but I reckon the sooner I get the ball rolling the better this will be for me.

I guess I'm just going to have to accept that a refund is the best I can hope for.

Just gutted, really. That Club IIIM was just what I was looking for (and was at a very good price).

Back to the drawing board. No idea when I'll next find that dream box. :( All the IIIs here in the UK seem to be de-clubbed or not in very good shape.

All the best,

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: folkloristmark on July 29, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
Will, you could get a Uk club. If its declubbed its very unlikely it will only be on the treble and then club it again. Not such a big deal.I have I think 3 Club 3s but they have all been  Declubbed, what exactly are you looking for? as they turn up on ebay quite often.Its rare to have a post issue but not unknown. I would think if you stick to ebay rules then you will get a refund ,no courier is going to ask for a parcel back .Whats the post code may be a melnet member lives close?????. I am in Lowestoft locked into a theme park untill september. Sorry again for your loss.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Steve_freereeder on July 30, 2017, 12:51:27 AM
Just gutted, really. That Club IIIM was just what I was looking for (and was at a very good price).

Try contacting Martyn White
http://www.melodeonrepairs.co.uk
or
Mike Rowbotham
http://www.michaelrowbotham.com

Both are reputable dealers/repairers/restorers who specialise in vintage Hohners. They may well have a Club III which could be available for restoration and sale.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 30, 2017, 07:40:19 AM
Will, you could get a Uk club. If its declubbed its very unlikely it will only be on the treble and then club it again. Not such a big deal.I have I think 3 Club 3s but they have all been  Declubbed, what exactly are you looking for? as they turn up on ebay quite often.Its rare to have a post issue but not unknown. I would think if you stick to ebay rules then you will get a refund ,no courier is going to ask for a parcel back .Whats the post code may be a melnet member lives close?????. I am in Lowestoft locked into a theme park untill september. Sorry again for your loss.

Hi Mark,

I've never owned a melodeon, but liked what I read about the club boxes, so just really want to give that style of playing/configuration a go.

With the club boxes it seems I would be able to play not just folk tunes, but also a certain amount of swing, chanson and klezmer material, all of which I really enjoy.

I haven't given up on finding my order. After perseverance and lots of messages I've been given an escalation email address, which I've contacted today.

Next I'll be filing my failure to receive goods ticket with eBay.

While we're on this subject, what should I reasonably expect to pay for a good IIIM club?

Many thanks,

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 30, 2017, 07:41:24 AM
Just gutted, really. That Club IIIM was just what I was looking for (and was at a very good price).

Try contacting Martyn White
http://www.melodeonrepairs.co.uk
or
Mike Rowbotham
http://www.michaelrowbotham.com

Both are reputable dealers/repairers/restorers who specialise in vintage Hohners. They may well have a Club III which could be available for restoration and sale.

Thanks, Steve! I'll go have a look at their sites now.

If things don't pan out with my order from eBay, I'll see if these the above have something that will fit the bill.

Much appreciated,

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on July 30, 2017, 09:21:27 AM
There's a reasonable looking IIIM on German EBay now.


Sir John


http://www.ebay.de/itm/HOHNER-CLUB-III-M-schones-altes-Akkordeon-im-Koffer-/382178353038?hash=item58fb9adf8e:g:dLcAAOSwcgNZAjNd
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 30, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
There's a reasonable looking IIIM on German EBay now.


Sir John


http://www.ebay.de/itm/HOHNER-CLUB-III-M-schones-altes-Akkordeon-im-Koffer-/382178353038?hash=item58fb9adf8e:g:dLcAAOSwcgNZAjNd

Thanks, John. I saw this yesterday and sent the seller a PM. Just waiting to hear back.

I appreciate the heads-up.

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Jack Campin on July 30, 2017, 01:06:56 PM
My experience with this kind of thing, shipping stuff from the UK, is that the most likely place for things to ge wrong is when the clerk at the desk is printing your shipping label.  If they have made any sort of typo (probably autocorrected to something you'd never imagined), the incorrect label will be treated as holy writ by everybody in the shipping business from then on.  Someone who receives an incorrectly addressed package can do nothing to sort it because they can't generate a digitally coded label to say "sorry, wrong Newcastle" or whatever.  The only hope is for the parcel to make its way back to the sender and for them to send it again, and this time stand over the clerk printing the label to make sure it has the right destination on it.

There is a lot of scope for misunderstanding between countries that use different postal code systems.  If you're used to the five-digit codes common in much of Europe, the UK system looks weird and might well be copied down wrong.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: invadm on July 30, 2017, 01:23:42 PM
Hello Will, just wondering what is the post code the parcel droped off to in London?
I am in Norht London and if it's near by I can pop-in and see this Laura lady  (:)
UK mail has returned one of my parcel to the sender after 2 weeks but it turned out post code was wrong & could not delivered to me..box came back 2nd time with coreckt address.. :D
PM me if you have the full post code/address  so I can see how close it is to me.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: folkloristmark on July 30, 2017, 04:43:54 PM
keep both going dont delay the ebay report.Do a past listing search on ebay to work out prices. You might pay 75 euroes up . The thing is with an ebay purchase, price  a good repairer the cost of a wax tune and fettle as it will almost always need one if you want a proper player. You can get a sort of feel with a good raw one.Dont go to much on the club /no club thing as its only one note and is reversable both ways the bass is more complicated.Get a play on both try a sale on approval all the names are here.Try a few models the three voice is bigger and heavier than a three voice, and form your own opinions it might not be your only box.Enjoy
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 30, 2017, 05:38:11 PM
Thanks again to everyone for the continued advice and support.

I've had some progress with UK-Mail. One of their supervisors called me today and says from everything he can see, it does look like a problem on DHL's end of things.

He said that the parcel that was delivered definitely arrived in the UK with the London address and that this went to a business in the SW10 area (there are six businesses registered at the range of addresses where the parcel was sent). He made a valid point that if a business was expecting a parcel and opened it only to find an accordion instead of what they ordered, they would have been on the phone pretty quick. True, but if the person who received it was a receptionist and the person it's supposed to go to isn't in the office until tomorrow or later, it could just be sitting in a post room waiting to be exposed as the wrong item for that address.

Thanks, by the way, to invadm for the offer of checking things out more closely. I really, really appreciate your offer. There are some really nice folks here. I can tell I'm going to enjoy both playing and engaging with everyone here. :)

The UKM rep said he would be calling the address where the parcel was shipped tomorrow as well as speaking with DHL in Germany. He's also asked me to get in touch with the seller and get him to speak to DHL to confirm what address they put on my parcel.

The UKM guy says he thinks it's very likely either my parcel had the right address, but the wrong consignment number and so, when this other parcel was correctly delivered, it was marked off against my account (even though my parcel is still out there somewhere). His focus tomorrow is to find out what my correct consignment number is supposed to be so he can find out the status of my parcel, which should tell him where it is. Once he's done that, he says getting it to me will be easy. I certainly hope so.

I'm about to message the seller again now and give him an update. Once I've heard more from UKM tomorrow (the rep is calling me back with an update), I'll file my failure to receive ticket with eBay. The last thing I want at this point is to find that the box is going to turn up tomorrow or Tuesday and have an erroneous refund issue to then sort out.

Thanks also to Mark on the advice about getting the box checked out and spruced up when I get it. Luckily, we have a master repairer and restorer only a few miles away (he's 90 years old and does all the work on a friend of mine's boxes), so I'll be in good hands with him.

I'll keep you all posted as things develop. I feel better about things now, but definitely not out of the woods yet.

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Lyra on July 30, 2017, 07:18:32 PM
I had a hiccup a few weeks ago with a slightly wrong address on the parcel, which was then delivered to yet a third address. Luckily the lady there rang us to say she had it and it was duly received. There are good people out there, so let's hope the weekend theory turns out correct.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 31, 2017, 04:09:06 PM
Well, folks, here's the update:

The parcel delivered to the London address does indeed seem to be my box. That's at least something.

However, in spite of being promised a call from UK-Mail CS today to sort everything out I've heard nothing. :(

I have no way of calling UKM CS, just their call centre and they have already said they can't help me.

The seller says he will try to get DHL (Germany) to arrange to have it picked up and sent to me, but can't say when that will happen.

I've spoken to the company where my box is and a very nice lady there has confirmed they have my musical instrument and would very much like to send it to me, but when she called DHL in London to try to arrange something, they didn't want to know.

The seller did suggest that I could "just go pick it up myself" :-0

I told him I have no plans to drive over 4-5 hours each way to pick up something that should have been delivered to my front door.

Sorry if this is sounding catty, but I'm a bit fed up now. Everyone seems to think this is someone else's problem. I'm not asking for much. I paid for a delivery and I'd like to receive that delivery. You wouldn't think it could be this difficult.

:/

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on July 31, 2017, 04:35:37 PM
Well at least you now know where it is, which is more than you did On Friday. Good luck getting it sorted out.


Sir John
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: folkloristmark on July 31, 2017, 04:43:47 PM
If you want the box you can arrange a courier to pick it up on an agreed date . You will need to email or post the shipping label and of course the house must be occupied at the time and be prepeared to place the label .looks like they are on your side.You can then agree the cost back from the seller or just stand it. Or get a London melneter to pick it up? But it is the sellers problem and persue the ebay refund untill you have it.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on July 31, 2017, 04:44:07 PM
I suppose you could pay for a courier to pick it up and deliver it to you, that would be easier than collection in person,and the small additional cost could be worth it rather than more hassle dealing with eBay and U.K. Mail.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 31, 2017, 04:51:48 PM
Thanks, folks.

I just emailed the very kind and helpful lady at the business where the box is currently on holiday and she said UK-Mail called earlier to arrange a pickup of the parcel!

:-0

This is the first I've heard of this.

She did say that she told them they close at 5:30, so she'd keep me informed on how things progress.

If they are at least trying to get it to me, I reckon I had better wait and see what happens next before I muddy the waters any more than they already are (and they're pretty opaque at the current time).

Onwards and upwards, eh?

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: invadm on July 31, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
it sounds like you will have your parcel soon after all  (:)  you can chill now  :|glug
DHL ,FEDEX even parcel force offer pick up/collect and deliver  option when you pay on line,no need to print any label they do it them self on pick up..worst case you could arrange your self, at least you know where it is and they are happy to help  ;)
           
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on July 31, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
I suppose you could pay for a courier to pick it up and deliver it to you, that would be easier than collection in person,and the small additional cost could be worth it rather than more hassle dealing with eBay and U.K. Mail.

Actually, I've now had a phone call saying that UK-Mail will be delivering the box to me tomorrow!

I will get a call at 10am to let me know roughly when they will be outside my door.

Fingers firmly crossed!

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Broadland Boy on July 31, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
Mistakes can and do happen, you can gauge a business by how they react to this and correct a problem, hopefully by this time tomorrow you will know and the result will be good.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on August 01, 2017, 07:20:55 AM
Richard's right. A few years ago I had a similar problem. There were two parcels awaiting pick up by parcel force. One, some extremely important bound documents for the now defunct World Bank and the other a dead power drill to go back to Screwfix. Yes you can guess what happened. Screwfix returns dept. Scratching their heads wondering what these bound books were about and the World Bank thinking someone was sending safe breaking stuff.
Screwfix were magnificent after a few phone calls they forwarded the books to the right address and at no cost to us.  World Bank? No one ever saw the drill again.
Parcel force in their wisdom had switched consignment numbers.
   Really hope you get it today Will.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on August 01, 2017, 07:30:16 AM
Just done some research. World Bank still exists, but it's not the same crowd as we worked for.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 01, 2017, 08:36:27 AM
UK-Mail have called to say they will deliver the box to me today! :D

I'm optimistic, but not holding my breath just yet.

Hopefully a very happy resolution by the end of the day!

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on August 01, 2017, 09:44:14 AM
have been a secret watcher of the thread and horrified at the mix up having had a few nightmares ourselves with non-melodeon deliveries.
Really hope today's the day......
Q
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 01, 2017, 12:41:34 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the eagle has landed! :D

Melodeon arrived about 20mins ago and I've been giving it the once over.

Seems to be in tune and all buttons sound, except one of the accidentals on the third row doesn't speak when I press in the far right voice button, but hopefully not hard or expensive to resolve.

Ok, off to play! :D

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on August 01, 2017, 12:43:39 PM
Result!
Great news, thank goodness for that!
Q
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Roger Howard on August 01, 2017, 01:20:30 PM
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Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on August 01, 2017, 01:42:27 PM
Hooray, 3 times  ;D
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Graham Spencer on August 01, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
Richard's right. A few years ago I had a similar problem. There were two parcels awaiting pick up by parcel force. One, some extremely important bound documents for the now defunct World Bank and the other a dead power drill to go back to Screwfix. Yes you can guess what happened. Screwfix returns dept. Scratching their heads wondering what these bound books were about and the World Bank thinking someone was sending safe breaking stuff.
Screwfix were magnificent after a few phone calls they forwarded the books to the right address and at no cost to us.  World Bank? No one ever saw the drill again.
Parcel force in their wisdom had switched consignment numbers.
   Really hope you get it today Will.

Oo-er, Mr Lamb ....   (you'll need to be of a certain age to understand that).
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Steve_freereeder on August 01, 2017, 04:02:40 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the eagle has landed! :D

Melodeon arrived about 20mins ago and I've been giving it the once over.

Seems to be in tune and all buttons sound, except one of the accidentals on the third row doesn't speak when I press in the far right voice button, but hopefully not hard or expensive to resolve.

Hooray! Congratulations!
The non-speaking note is hopefully not too difficult to fix. By far the most common cause is a speck of dust or fluff caught in the reed tongue. I've seen a cat hair stopping a note from sounding before now. The solution is to open up the box by removing the bellows pins (straight upwards pull with a pair of pliers) and ease off the end of the box. You should be able to see the reed blocks. Locate the offending reed. It may take a bit of working out, but I'm sure you can find it once you have the box open and can see what is what and how the thing works - INRS!

Remember that the push reeds are the visible ones on the outside of the reed plate, the pull reeds are hidden on the internal surface of the reed plate, covered by the valve. If your non-sounding note is a push reed, gently 'ping' the reed tongue a couple of times using a cocktail stick or small screwdriver blade (in the absence of a proper reed pinger/lifter). If it is a pull reed, then use a cocktail stick to just lift the valve a fraction and then gently push down a short distance (2 - 3 millimetres, typically) on the underneath reed tongue a few times. That ought to clear any debris. Go gently and carefully and you should be OK. Take care not to bend or crease any of the valves.

Reassemble the box. Re-insert the bellows pins back into the same holes from whence they came. Use the pliers handle or similar to push the pins home. See if you have cured the non-sounding reed. If not, repeat the process. If still no luck, come back here for more advice.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on August 01, 2017, 05:21:04 PM
But before that here is a simple technique that is worth trying first

Hold down the button with the coupler setting that shows the single silent reed.  Then pump the bellows in and out as hard as you dare.   Only takes a few seconds and may help you avoid opening the instrument.   Of course you may well want to open the instrument just to see how things are inside ...
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: playandteach on August 01, 2017, 07:09:15 PM
The solution is to open up the box by removing the bellows pins (straight upwards pull with a pair of pliers) and ease off the end of the box. You should be able to see the reed blocks. Locate the offending reed.
Upwards, of course if the box is lying on its back or front. I know this sounds incredibly pedantic, but words are dangerous things.
I once tried getting my mum to operate a computer mouse. I showed her the cursor, and how it was operated by the mouse. Then I said: 'so grab the mouse and move it round the screen'. Of course she dragged the mouse over the screen.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Jack Campin on August 02, 2017, 12:19:34 AM
Could have been worse...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-35275855
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 02, 2017, 07:38:03 AM
Thanks for all the advice. It's very much appreciated. Notes being made as I speak.

As this is my first club/melodeon, I'm going to take it for an MOT with the man who does all my buddy's boxes.

My friend came over yesterday evening to have a look and play. He said it as obviously very well cared for (including the case) and in very good nick. He doesn't play club, but still managed to make it sound really nice. :)

Can someone point me to a good collection of simple-ish abc tunes that I can try? I know there are lots of tune links, but if someone (perhaps a club player like Theo) could give me a stepwise way into learning this great instrument, I would appreciate the wisdom and insight. Perhaps a few single-row tunes to get my fingers working and so I can coordinate my right-hand bass with my left-hand melody.

By all means, please refer me to a more appropriate thread for this is need be.

Can't wait to get my work done today so I can have another bash! :D
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Lester on August 02, 2017, 08:13:19 AM
Can someone point me to a good collection of simple-ish abc tunes that I can try?

Loads of tunes with ABC here, including single row tunes (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/p/tune-index.html)
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on August 02, 2017, 08:34:22 AM
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Can someone point me to a good collection of simple-ish abc tunes that I can try? I know there are lots of tune links, but if someone (perhaps a club player like Theo) could give me a stepwise way into learning this great instrument, I would appreciate the wisdom and insight

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't play the club system, just a converted club box. 
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 02, 2017, 10:12:04 AM
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Can someone point me to a good collection of simple-ish abc tunes that I can try? I know there are lots of tune links, but if someone (perhaps a club player like Theo) could give me a stepwise way into learning this great instrument, I would appreciate the wisdom and insight

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't play the club system, just a converted club box.

No problem. In what way is it converted? De-clubbed C in the right hand?
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on August 02, 2017, 11:05:32 AM
Mine is de-clubbed on right and left hand so its just a 2.5 row with standard 8 bass and main right hand rows.
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 02, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
Mine is de-clubbed on right and left hand so its just a 2.5 row with standard 8 bass and main right hand rows.

What's the bass config on a de-clubbed bass side? Is the A re-tuned to Am?

Thanks,

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Theo on August 02, 2017, 11:19:45 AM
Club layouts here
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/page,keyboard_25_row.html
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: folkloristmark on August 02, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
Here on ebay item 192262325516 club 3 . How are you getting on?
Have found the rest of thread so might bid myself.
regards
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Willh on August 02, 2017, 03:31:42 PM
Here on ebay item 192262325516 club 3 . How are you getting on?

Thanks, Mark. That looks a beauty! :)

I'm doing pretty good, I think, for a beginner.

I've kinda just set myself the goal of getting my two hands to work together and play simple melodies, although I'm finding the strategic playing of notes against chords and the whole push/pull thing to be a real challenge, but I'll get there.

It's literally just hours of fun. :D

Will
Title: Re: DHL / UK-Mail have lost my melodeon and couldn't care less
Post by: Graham Spencer on August 02, 2017, 04:53:18 PM
Mine is de-clubbed on right and left hand so its just a 2.5 row with standard 8 bass and main right hand rows.

What's the bass config on a de-clubbed bass side? Is the A re-tuned to Am?

Thanks,

Will

On my most recent declubbing I've left the original basses untouched. It's surprising how little left-hand relearning has been necessary, and also how many interesting bass lines have emerged.....

Graham
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