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Title: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: jorden on January 08, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUNnQgcrbgo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUNnQgcrbgo)

About moving your fingers.

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Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: Stiamh on January 10, 2018, 10:02:36 PM
Thanks for the tip-off. Many ways to skin a cat!

Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: Barlow on January 13, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
The video makes a lot of sense. Especially about a beginner, such as myself, gaining a sense of satisfaction from learning a tune but.... the fingering is 'wrong'.
Also, I have often wanted to move a finger over two buttons but felt this was 'wrong' and I must try and sort the fingering out so that I make another finger available. Whereas as shown, it is fine to practice moving over two buttons, as it will eventually help the overall playing.

Now...this is a rather moot point, but I see John Redmond makes full use of four fingers. I will hunt down the threads on this particular subject in the forum as it interests me just now, I am at a sort of  cross-roads.

But yes, as Stiamh says -many ways to skin a cat!

Use of little finger very much to the fore here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6JU4zgcrnQ
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: Stiamh on January 13, 2018, 01:28:40 PM
[Note to non-semitone-box players: the following is about playing Irish music (single melody lines) on a half-step box. May or may not apply to other systems!]

You can have endless hours of fun trying to work out elegant fingering patterns that avoid the need to play two consecutive buttons with the same finger, but ultimately you will realise it cannot always be done. In fact even in places where it can be done, it's often safer and easier to just shift. The endless hours are still worth putting in, though - just make shifting a part of them.

John Redmond says at some point the same thing I tell my students, which is that if you find yourself shifting the same finger twice in a row (i.e. hitting three buttons consecutively with the same finger), it's time to take the tune apart with a few minutes of endless fun.

Use four fingers if you like, but try not doing so first (:) Also remember another of my pet sayings: if a passage is too hard using three fingers, try using two.  :|glug
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: jorden on January 13, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
I found the videos quite instructive, especially the part where he shows the quick shifting of the middle finger as a sort of anchor for executing ornamentation. I hope he makes some more videos.
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: Barlow on January 13, 2018, 02:31:16 PM
Use four fingers if you like, but try not doing so first (:) Also remember another of my pet sayings: if a passage is too hard using three fingers, try using two.  :|glug
Great post. The above especially hammers home.
Thanks
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: Stiamh on January 22, 2018, 09:45:04 PM
Martin Quinn's demonstration videos under the various makes on his accordion shop page (http://"http://www.martinquinnaccordion.com/Accordions") are meant to show off boxes for sale, but they also give a great demonstration of B/C fingering technique. Expand to fullscreen, watch at normal speed and then slow down to 50% for detail. :|glug

Examples: Light grey Paolo (https://youtu.be/dlaqMAQxJYA).

Saltarelle Aether - The Collier's Reel (https://youtu.be/IqAZ3Gie7oo).
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: tirpous on January 22, 2018, 10:09:34 PM
Thanks for the pointer Steve.
Title: Re: Three B/C tutor videos from John Redmond
Post by: KLR on January 23, 2018, 01:41:32 AM
John Nolan's (https://www.youtube.com/user/MrAccordionWizard/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=2) for sale videos are also great viewing.  You'll have plenty of fun figuring out what system he's playing!
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