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Title: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on May 31, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
I've nicked this idea completely from George's list of excellent suggestions. An Everest tune being one that you've had a lot of trouble learning, never thinking you'd manage it, but now you've got your head around it! I've got a few that would meet those criteria - how about you?

Cheers

Clive
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Jesse Smith on June 01, 2018, 02:02:17 AM
I don't think I've been playing long enough to have one of these. ::) Maybe I'll just try to learn an extra ambitious one...
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Anahata on June 01, 2018, 07:50:16 AM
Everything I can think of in that category has been done for a Melnet ToTM so would only be a re-posting.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: baz parkes on June 01, 2018, 12:46:07 PM
We live opposite the house in which Mallory grew up. I'll go and stare at it a bit and seek inspiration.... :|glug
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 01, 2018, 12:55:21 PM
and I thought you were celebrating the 65 anniversary of Tensing Norgay's and Hilary's [Edit: It's a little known fact that Hilary Everest was on on the successful Everest expedition, but didn't get mentioned because she was welsh].
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Stiamh on June 01, 2018, 02:02:56 PM
Are there any tunes the attempting of which regularly ends in death?

And while we're being off-topic. Everest was a Welshman. Just make sure you get the pronunciation right (http://mentalfloss.com/article/68822/were-all-mispronouncing-mount-everests-name)... 

PS It's Hillary, as in Clinton.


Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Winston Smith on June 01, 2018, 03:24:23 PM
The face of Everest (North South East or West, dunno!) was Ted Moult, but he certainly wasn't Welsh, 'e be from Derbyshire!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on June 01, 2018, 10:19:47 PM
Please remember that all attempts to twist the meaning of the theme so something slightly related by the most tenuous link... are always positively encouraged :-)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Grape Ape on June 01, 2018, 10:53:38 PM
My everest is the tune “Indifference,” by Tony Mura.  I don’t think I will be climbing it this month, but maybe five years from now if and when this theme is recycled....
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 02, 2018, 01:48:43 AM
I never got around to climbing Everest but I've sunbathed on Kinder, been burned to a cinder. Would that qualify?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Julian S on June 02, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
As a keen skier I have lots of tunes which I regard as being akin to 'black runs'- ones I can manage but often with a lack of skill or elegance, some loss of control (and maybe a crash or two on the way). It's tempting to go back to the 'blue run' tunes - but stretching oneself and learning the skills to do the harder slopes/tunes is great. It's not so much climbing a summit, but getting better through each attempt, and having those transferable skills.
And a bit like skiing, each time I play a tune, it's slightly different, both in the bits that go well and the errors - and I rarely look back and think that was a perfect run. No matter how easy or difficult a tune (or slope) is, enjoying the journey is the thing.
Thinking further about my analogy, easy slopes/tunes can still have tricky bits, and there are always different ways down (with maybe a bit of extra style or variation in direction or speed)
And on Everest tunes, I've been enjoying playing 'The Rose of Raby' in Gm on my D/G+accs (hard route with no oxygen with high probability of failure) but perhaps I'll go back to Em or Am (easier and with full complement of guides, porters etc)

J
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: pikey on June 02, 2018, 02:16:15 PM
As requested .......   >:E


https://youtu.be/NI1UHnw5XN0
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on June 02, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
 ;D I love this, thanks Pikey, it always makes me smile
Q
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: docEdock on June 03, 2018, 11:31:34 AM
As requested .......   >:E


https://youtu.be/NI1UHnw5XN0
Wow. The summit is yours. Played with impressive verve and rhythm. I especially liked your facial expression at the finale -- well deserved triumph.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Anahata on June 03, 2018, 12:38:53 PM
Don't encourage him, guys...  >:E
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: baz parkes on June 06, 2018, 02:16:22 PM
Bit of advice needed...I'm thinking Quebecois tunes as I really can't get my head/fingers (let alone feet...} round these.

I've listened to many players, and some of my favourite English players, notably Quinns Sr and Jr. do a fine job.

Any suggestions for an "entry level" Quebecois tune?

Please oblige, as it used to say on the notes from parents I used to get back in the day...
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on June 06, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
Bit of advice needed...I'm thinking Quebecois tunes as I really can't get my head/fingers (let alone feet...} round these.

I've listened to many players, and some of my favourite English players, notably Quinns Sr and Jr. do a fine job.

Any suggestions for an "entry level" Quebecois tune?

Please oblige, as it used to say on the notes from parents I used to get back in the day...

This one's pretty great - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAzr99n9Eus - Marche a Queteux Pomerleau here demo'ed by Andre Brunet nice and slowly, but popularised in the UK by Chris Wood and Andy Cutting, who plays it in G, in the higher octave (you need a 3 voice box really) mostly against a C chord drone.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: baz parkes on June 07, 2018, 12:51:22 PM
Bit of advice needed...I'm thinking Quebecois tunes as I really can't get my head/fingers (let alone feet...} round these.
Any suggestions for an "entry level" Quebecois tune

This one's pretty great - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAzr99n9Eus - Marche a Queteux Pomerleau here demo'ed by Andre Brunet nice and slowly, but popularised in the UK by Chris Wood and Andy Cutting, who plays it in G, in the higher octave (you need a 3 voice box really) mostly against a C chord drone.

Ta
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Mutt on June 08, 2018, 06:47:00 AM
Everything I can think of in that category has been done for a Melnet ToTM so would only be a re-posting.

It might be informative to the more timid among us to know just which ones these were. Or how about one from your earlier playing career?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Chris Ryall on June 08, 2018, 09:44:06 AM
Everything I can think of in that category has been done for a Melnet ToTM so would only be a re-posting.

Agreed.  My own Everest is "Stoney Steps"  ;)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Anahata on June 08, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Everything I can think of in that category has been done for a Melnet ToTM so would only be a re-posting.

It might be informative to the more timid among us to know just which ones these were.

The one I sweated blood over for a long time is Rosamond's Pond (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN7ijEf97Dw)
Not only working out how to play the bass line modified as little as possible from the printed original, but then finding a harmony line for 3rd time through which (a) fitted musically, and (b) worked with the same bass line, and then learning to play it. As has been pointed out before, it was so new that we were still reading from the dots on that video. But unlike the others mentioned below, it's now in regular performing repertoire.

Close runners-up  are Feed The Birds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBDEO30RCU0) and The Abbess (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m-R8oashlg), both for having to learn to play in a different style that is not my usual kind of music, and The Liberty Bell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=120GV2XLt24) for obvious reasons, once you get past the second strain and into 'fools rush in' territory.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Grape Ape on June 08, 2018, 01:37:49 PM
Your playing on the Liberty Bell is as fine an example of playing as I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 08, 2018, 05:01:58 PM
I have no problem identifying my Everest song. It's the one that brought me to this site. The Abbess. However, when I came to play it I found I couldn't remember how to. Now I'm going to have to climb this mountain again.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: playandteach on June 08, 2018, 10:51:35 PM
So pleased that I'm not alone with struggling with The Abbess, though I haven't looked at it in a couple of years. It looks straightforward, so I just assumed that is was me.
Maybe I'll have another go.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Pierre-Emmanuel on June 09, 2018, 01:03:00 AM
Here's one of my "Everest tunes", a Renaissance song called "Tourdion" or "Quand je bois du vin clairet". After transcribing it a few months ago, I abandoned it, thinking I wouldn't be able to make it sound good. But a few changes to my arrangement made a huge difference. The natural reverb in my empty garage also helps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srn3sTmdJf4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srn3sTmdJf4)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 09, 2018, 08:53:17 PM
So pleased that I'm not alone with struggling with The Abbess, though I haven't looked at it in a couple of years. It looks straightforward, so I just assumed that is was me.
Maybe I'll have another go.

The problem isn't playing the notes. It's playing them so they sound right to you. Especially the basses. It was my party piece for two years. Now it's vanished..
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Gary Chapin on June 09, 2018, 09:13:31 PM
Close runners-up  are Feed The Birds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBDEO30RCU0) ...

I have also found Feed the Birds to be devilish.

I have a number of tunes in this category. I consider them bêtes noires. The one that most haunts me is Plante a Chou, a fairly bog norme scottish. I once recorded a version for the blog and then deleted the post because it was just too wartful.

I got it somewhat under my fingers now -- though I can't remember ever playing it without error. I will post tomorrow.

Gary
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Daddy Long Les on June 12, 2018, 08:39:23 AM
Stoney Steps Hornpipe (like Chris!)

This one has taken me several weeks to get to this slow(ish) and steady stage.

https://youtu.be/_GvVIsEn6wQ

Les
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 12, 2018, 12:05:44 PM
... I abandoned it, thinking I wouldn't be able to make it sound good. But a few changes to my arrangement made a huge difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srn3sTmdJf4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srn3sTmdJf4)

Yes. Break through moments sometimes have little triggers like this, other times you just have to keep banging your head against it. Often the first method gives a better result.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on June 12, 2018, 08:47:45 PM
I have climbed Hay Tor and danced at the top.
I then sat a while and it came to me......

With the wind in the right direction ( mostly ) here is my Everest ( Hay Tor ) tune.
'11 St Martins Street' by Nigel Chippendale.
Nigel was a writer of excellent if not finger knotting tunes that somehow take me on a guided tour around the melodeon in the process of playing it. His tunes make me smile......

https://soundcloud.com/thrupenny-bit/11-st-martins-street

cheers
Q
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Fred on June 12, 2018, 09:45:44 PM
I have climbed Hay Tor and danced at the top.
I then sat a while and it came to me......

With the wind in the right direction ( mostly ) here is my Everest ( Hay Tor ) tune.
'11 St Martins Street' by Nigel Chippendale.
Nigel was a writer of excellent if not finger knotting tunes that somehow take me on a guided tour around the melodeon in the process of playing it. His tunes make me smile......

https://soundcloud.com/thrupenny-bit/11-st-martins-street

cheers
Q

Oooooh this is just awesome. Thanks for sharing. Really a deep tune with a lot of interesting twists and turns.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: AnnC on June 12, 2018, 09:47:20 PM

'11 St Martins Street' by Nigel Chippendale.
Nigel was a writer of excellent if not finger knotting tunes that somehow take me on a guided tour around the melodeon in the process of playing it. His tunes make me smile......
cheers
Q

 ;D   :||: and that tune is definitely a finger knotter, listening to your playing while looking at the dots in my old copy of Chippindale's Cheery Chunes was lovely  ;D
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on June 12, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
Thanks Fred and Ann, yep a classic Chippendale finger knotter......
Glad it hit the spot, especially as the wind kept blowing me sideways ;)
Q
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on June 13, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
A convoluted ascent. Becky Hamilton, studying music for film asked Rob and Lesley Neale and me to play and record parts of a score which she had written for a short film as a part of her course. My part was the guitar and Rob and Lesley were playing concertina, recorder and percussion. This is one of the themes in the score, Bobs Hornpipe. I have very slightly adapted the structure for life on the melodeon and outside of the film. The whole exercise was a brilliant challenge and I promised myself to do something with the material. This seemed as good an opportunity as any.

https://youtu.be/veQdyIigBBw

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Howard Mitchell-Borts (Mitch) on June 16, 2018, 04:18:38 PM
Here's The Broken Rifle by John Kirkpatrick from his CD Three in a Row.

I learnt this some years ago but it never made it to performance standard.
It's taken me a while to resurrect it and work on the arpeggios, row crossing and modulations.
It's completely playable on a standard 2 row 8 bass even though this is on a 2 and 1/2 12 bass.  I don't use any of the 1/2 row or extra basses.

I like the way it sort of rises throughout the tune and then ends up back at the beginning but an octave up - a bit like an Escher staircase.

https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k (https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k)

Mitch

Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Saul Bailey on June 16, 2018, 06:10:55 PM
Umpteenth take's the charm... Here's Roger Wilson's Zycanthos/Zakynthos Jig :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givKrB_RRVA&feature=youtu.be

Saul
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Fred on June 19, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
Now normally the TotM postings encourage me to learn one or two of the songs other people upload but to be honest it is a bit different this time around. All of the songs indeed seem to be Everest Tunes in its true sense as in hard to learn and even harder to master. You all are doing a great job!  :||:
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Jesse Smith on June 19, 2018, 01:36:14 PM
Here's The Broken Rifle by John Kirkpatrick from his CD Three in a Row.

I enjoyed that, Mitch, thanks! I really like this tune - as you say, the way the B part rambles around through different chords before ending up, somewhat surprisingly, back where it started. JK demonstrates it on his tutorial DVD, but I haven't tried it yet.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: baz parkes on June 20, 2018, 10:48:39 AM
Here's The Broken Rifle by John Kirkpatrick from his CD Three in a Row.
https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k (https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k)

Mitch

I've been learning this one for 30+ years... :|bl
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Howard Mitchell-Borts (Mitch) on June 20, 2018, 01:10:01 PM
Here's The Broken Rifle by John Kirkpatrick from his CD Three in a Row.
https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k (https://youtu.be/L3US_950w_k)

Mitch

I've been learning this one for 30+ years... :|bl


Me too!
It's quite a work out for lots of different arpeggios. I found one of the most difficult parts was the first 2 bars of the B music. The arpeggio AEC#E starting with the third finger and then the run ABC#D starting on the same A but with the first finger.

Mitch
   
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on June 24, 2018, 01:11:46 PM
Here's my contrib; I've been trying to learn this tune for *ages*. Finally got it, though I think perhaps my version in a year's time might have a bit more of the original's musicality in it. This is Batiska, written by Toon van Mierlo  of Naragonia, and on their Naragonia Quartet album of the same name.

https://youtu.be/GVGmPsHz1YQ

The original is actually a very fast waltz, though it's so quick it took me a while to actually realise it was a waltz!

Played on a Castagnari Mory in D/G.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: arty on June 24, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
This is Batiska, written by Toon van Mierlo  of Naragonia, and on their Naragonia Quartet album of the same name.
 

Oh I love that tune! In fact I love that whole CD. When I bought the Naragonia Tunebook, I was really disappointed that Batiska wasn't in it. I presume you learnt that by ear Clive. Lovely, well done!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on June 24, 2018, 02:37:01 PM
This is Batiska, written by Toon van Mierlo  of Naragonia, and on their Naragonia Quartet album of the same name.
 

Oh I love that tune! In fact I love that whole CD. When I bought the Naragonia Tunebook, I was really disappointed that Batiska wasn't in it. I presume you learnt that by ear Clive. Lovely, well done!

Thanks - and yes, learnt by ear with more than a little help from the Amazing Slow Downer app...
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Gena Crisman on June 27, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
Hello! I did make a video for this month, but I think during the course of recording with a fixed exposure, the sun came out and completely blew everything out into a white mess! So, here's just just the story and the audio:

March 2017, last year, I joined my first morris side after starting to learn to play melodeon a few months prior. I was surprised to discover they didn't have any other melodeon players at all! We were getting close to dance out season so we'd run through quite a few of the dances each night, rather than going over the same one again and again, so, it was pretty hard for me coming in without knowing any of them, and I went away each week and practiced one or two of them. One of the tunes we use for a dance (Bluejay) has music called The Carpathian Tune, and it really stuck out to me and I thought 'yeah that's a cool tune, I bet that'll be the hardest one of them all' - it uses the Bb accidental and it has a cool sound, and I thought to myself 'I should work on this one a little bit each week since it will surely take me months to get this one figured out'. While it was genuinely pretty hard to play at first - it required a bit of homework (https://i.imgur.com/KSNy1oD.jpg) on my part to work out how to actually go about organising the pushes and pulls, especially in the B music - it actually came together pretty quickly for me! It ultimately turned out that All Around My Hat was the hardest tune to learn for me due to there being some more creative chord choices. Bottom line, though is it actually came together faster than I was expecting, and it's still one of my favourite tunes that we play for dance today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zp99H2CMkU).

But, this post is not about The Carpathian Tune! On one of those practice evenings last year, a friend of one of the band members who was visiting from far away, a chap named Jan, came to visit. Jan played a rather old Castagnari Tommy which seemed to have had an accident in its grill, and he'd been playing for many a year. He was the first person I was able to talk to about melodeons in any significant depth really, so, obviously, I talked to him quite a bit, including about some of the tunes we use, the Carpathian Tune included. I ultimately got several key pieces of information/experience from him:

I'd never heard of Day Trip to Bangor, so, he played it for me - I really quite liked it, but, honestly I have no idea how he went about playing it or what he did with the basses etc. I mostly went home and became obsessed with it for a week or so and sort of worked out how to play it if I'd had an A row, but never went any farther than that.

When Everest tunes came up as a theme this month, I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do - I have quite a few tunes I want to get figured out, but really, this was the one with the most personal story behind it, so, here we are! It's particularly relevant to me at the moment because I recently made the choice to reverse the accidental plates in the melodeon I play, moving to pull F / pull G# etc, and I was trying to decide if that was the right choice for me not. Day Trip to Bangor has the lovely distinction of using all 4 of the standard accidental notes (played on the outside row), so, there's a bit of fun for you, I suppose, and explains why it's maybe a good workout for your accidental reeds!

Anyway, after working at it for a few weeks, here you go:
https://soundcloud.com/user-889775496/day-trip-to-bangor
played in D, on a DG Black Pearl II in with 'reversed' accidentals. I would share the ABC but I suspect that's not appropriate in this case, the important thing is that it has a cheeky D# over B major in the outro, which I hadn't picked up on when I tried to work it out myself. Thanks for the inspiration to go back and figure this one out!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Eshed on June 27, 2018, 09:12:27 PM
Anyway, after working at it for a few weeks, here you go:
https://soundcloud.com/user-889775496/day-trip-to-bangor
I didn't know the song until now, so thanks for that!
Your playing definitely advertises it well :)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Anahata on June 27, 2018, 09:20:27 PM
Anyway, after working at it for a few weeks, here you go:
https://soundcloud.com/user-889775496/day-trip-to-bangor

One of those tunes that sounds like it couldn't be done on a melodeon - well played!

I hope you're convinced about the accidentals reversal.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Lester on June 27, 2018, 11:30:28 PM
On one of those practice evenings last year, a friend of one of the band members who was visiting from far away, a chap named Jan, came to visit. Jan played a rather old Castagnari Tommy which seemed to have had an accident in its grill, and he'd been playing for many a year.

I've known Jan for more than 40 years since I started dancing with Thames Valley Morris Men. Really excellent player and wise in the way of the melodeon.

Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Gena Crisman on June 28, 2018, 01:49:57 AM
Thank you for the comments!

I hope you're convinced about the accidentals reversal.

So far, so good, at least! I've flirted with disaster a couple of times since I did it, and then having to play a tune that I knew from before hand, but, only in the form of rapidly thinking to myself 'don't mess it up' rather than being genuinely confused. Most of those issues have been straightened out now. I think so far at least, the positives have outweighed the negatives. Flipping G#/Bb is still definitely the less certain choice since there're runs either way, but I concluded it had to be the bass pairings that decided it, and this way around won: Bb goes with almost everything (including B major, apparently) and G# only really pairs with E.

I've known Jan for more than 40 years since I started dancing with Thames Valley Morris Men. Really excellent player and wise in the way of the melodeon.

That could very well be him! It never ceases to amaze me how many people know other people, and how only a marginal level of description can result in someone else identifying who you were thinking of! I certainly hope he's doing well; he was a big influence on one of my band mates deciding to get into music to begin with. I eventually found other local box players to befriend and joined up here on mel.net, but, it was very encouraging to chat with him for that one evening.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Jesse Smith on June 30, 2018, 07:57:30 AM
I felt that I haven't really been playing long enough to have anything fitting the original definition of an "Everest Tune" as a tune that you tried and failed but eventually learned after multiple struggles. So I thought I would reinterpret it, borrowing the (probably apocryphal) quip of Everest climber George Mallory when asked why he wanted to climb Mount Everest: "Because it's there." In my short playing career thus far there have been a handful of tunes that just reached out and grabbed me and I instantly knew that this was a sound that I wanted to learn to create and that this was a tune that I needed to learn to play someday.

One of those tunes for me is John Kirkpatrick's "Shreds and Patches", as played on his album "The Duck Race". It sounded daunting to me at first, but once I sat down with it I discovered the actual melody line is not very difficult at all. This tune is all about the rhythm, both in just coming to terms with the 3/2 time signature (it's like 4/4 except the next phrase keeps jumping the gun!) and also the pronounced "short um long pah" at work here. It took me all month to work up, and I'm still "climbing the mountain" on this one, with too many places where I can hear my rhythm wobble or fingers fail to hit the notes with the right amount of staccato. Someday I would love to go back to the original tune and figure out the majestic chordal improvisation that John plays during the outro, but that will have to wait for another time.

Shreds and Patches: https://youtu.be/mu_rTJyaQIE
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Steve_freereeder on June 30, 2018, 08:43:01 AM
...Bb goes with almost everything (including B major, apparently) and G# only really pairs with E.
If you think about Bb as being A# instead, that gives you the leading note (7th) in the scale of B major (and B harmonic minor) so in a sense it is useful similar to having the G# leading note in the key of A
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 30, 2018, 09:41:24 AM
That sounds great Jesse. You've got the Kirkpatrick reverse rhythm thing off great. I see the phantom thumbs downers are still at work. I would have given it a thumbs up, but I've lost access to my Youtube account, so I can't do any posting, commenting or liking.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: fc diato on June 30, 2018, 05:26:55 PM
Wonderful contributions! Intimidating as always.

First posting of my playing ... month after month I resolve to do the TOTM or ThOTM, but then for one reason or another never make it (I hate my recordings being one.)  So here we go, under the wire. At least, now I’ll be able to vote for TOTM    :D

I’ve been gnawing at Latt om foten since it popped up here over a year ago (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,20095.msg242844.html#msg242844) Tried to make it for last month’s mazurka theme, in vain.
I think I’ve now reached base camp, in spite of some swallowed notes and tempo quirks. 
I’m starved for feedback, so any advice, constructive critique are most welcome.

https://soundcloud.com/fcdiato/latt-om-foten-v1-juin-2018
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Eshed on June 30, 2018, 06:44:02 PM
That sounds great Jesse. You've got the Kirkpatrick reverse rhythm thing off great. I see the phantom thumbs downers are still at work. I would have given it a thumbs up, but I've lost access to my Youtube account, so I can't do any posting, commenting or liking.
No need to worry, I gave one on your behalf  :D
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Fred on June 30, 2018, 07:38:58 PM
I’m starved for feedback, so any advice, constructive critique are most welcome.

First of all, that is a great tune which I still have saved in my bookmark folder called "out of reach"... I already envy you for getting this far. Respect for learning it!

Two words of well-meaning advice: try to slow it down a little bit, as your playing seems quite superb but suffers a little bit from the relatively high tempo. Just a slight deceleration, like 5 or 10 bpm less, and you should be golden with the swallowed notes as well.
Keep on practicing, this tune is a piece of gold and it deserves every moment of attention to detail you can spare.  :||:
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: fc diato on June 30, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
Why thank you, Fred.
I'll try the slowdown. Probably time to start practicing with a metronome, too... I think I speed up as I go along.

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I wouldn't be so sure. It sounds more complicated than it is (though I've been slogging at it for a while). My judgment is based on the fact that I'm working on 'your' (ie> discovered from your rendition) Mazurka Manana now. I'm nowhere near the fluency and swing that you have there.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: arty on June 30, 2018, 10:08:14 PM

I’ve been gnawing at Latt om foten since it popped up here over a year ago (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,20095.msg242844.html#msg242844) Tried to make it for last month’s mazurka theme, in vain.
I think I’ve now reached base camp, in spite of some swallowed notes and tempo quirks. 
I’m starved for feedback, so any advice, constructive critique are most welcome.

https://soundcloud.com/fcdiato/latt-om-foten-v1-juin-2018

Thank you for posting this. I certainly can't criticise in any way but just wanted to say that you have inspired me to learn this wonderful piece. I came across it about a year ago but thought it too difficult for me but I think I might just be able to get through it now. It will be good to have a challenge on the back burner, something I can work at over a period of time. Thanks again  (:)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Clive Williams on June 30, 2018, 10:56:30 PM
Thanks all - some great contributions this month; stick late contribs on the end of the theme as ever! Onto the next theme...
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: Fred on July 01, 2018, 12:43:11 AM
Thanks all - some great contributions this month
Absolutely agreed! And I also want to say thank you for picking these nice themes every month, it's always a pleasure to see what comes around when people have a theme in mind. (:)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: fc diato on July 01, 2018, 02:24:47 PM
Thanks Arty, and you’re welcome.

The only problem is that the Dony (and I see you have one too) only has one B-flat. You also need a high B-flat to play the Tanghe-Coudroy version, or a low one for the Louise Wanselius original. I found that lack so frustrating (seems I like keys with B-flat) that I had a low b-flat/g# swapped in place of the low notes on the inner row.  Works well, and it opens up lots of tunes and reduces need to transpose. If you are better at music theory than me, I am sure there are other solutions though. I look forward to hearing your rendition! You managed a wonderfully sensitive Deux Freres, after all. That one still stumps me.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for June 2018: Everest Tunes
Post by: arty on July 01, 2018, 02:39:19 PM
Fc diato....Thank you for your response. I haven’t really had time to look at it properly yet. I found an abc on a previous thread, which is in Gminor. I put it in an abc converter and changed it to Aminor and that is as far as I have gone! I shall use the abc as a starting point and also learn what
I can by ear. I am likely to go to the recording of the composer for that though. I’ll let you know how I get on!
Keep plugging away  (:)