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Discussions => News and Events => Topic started by: Bob Ellis on May 17, 2018, 05:30:43 PM
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Thanks to everybody who has posted kind words about Melodeons in Wensleydale 2018. All the feedback we have received has been positive, so we have decided to hold another one next year. The initial date we chose has proved inconvenient for the venue, so we have had to think again. This has been tricky because of the late date of Easter next year. In the end, there was only one date that proved convenient for us and for the museum where we hold the event: that date is the weekend of 10-12 May 2019.
If you are interested in attending next year, please make a note of the date. If you are thinking of booking hotel accommodation, I suggest that you wait a few days. I am in the process of negotiating a preferential rate with the Fountain Hotel, which will involve block booking all their rooms. This should guarantee that nobody complains about the noise from our sessions on Friday and Saturday evening. Watch this space for further details, which will also be e-mailed shortly to everybody on our mailing list.
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:( oh **********!! will have to miss next year, youngest brother is getting married and Murphy's Law decrees it's that weekend ::)
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Glad to hear dates are sorted for next year! All the best with that Bob et al.
Here's my blog from this year's inaugural event (didn't take long did it?!) in which I have a chat with myself (still getting used to blogging...) about what my workshop was all about and the significant effects it is already having on people who attended:
https://melbiggsmusic.co.uk/2018/05/22/session-survival-skills-melodeons-in-wendsleydale-2018/
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Any update on accommodation, keen to get sorted asap :D
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The Caravan Club (who have a site handy for the Museum at Hawes) have recently changed their policy, you can now book on a site a year in advance.
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Any update on accommodation, keen to get sorted asap :D
Yes, for those wishing to book a room at The Fountain Hotel (where we hold our late evening sessions), I have reserved all the rooms above the session room at a preferential rate. If you book direct with the hotel (not through a booking agency) and tell them that you are booking for Melodeons in Wensleydale you will be charged the preferential rate. Contact details for hotels, B&Bs, camping and caravan sites are on our website at http://melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/
I am hoping to arrange free parking for motorhomes and camper vans on the museum car park again next year, but have not done so yet. I will report back here when I have done so.
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Done!
Now what about that Delilah workshop........
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Me too, just booked at Fountain.
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The Caravan Club (who have a site handy for the Museum at Hawes) have recently changed their policy, you can now book on a site a year in advance.
I've just booked a pitch on the Caravan Club site for the 2019 weekend. (:) :||:
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We can now announce the main tutor line-up for Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019, which will be Saul Rose, Brian Peters, Pascale Rubens and Toon van Mierlo. As many of you know, Toon and Pascale are a Belgian husband and wife who perform together as Naragonia, but who will be offering separate workshops at Melodeons in Wensleydale. Among the mini-workshops on offer, Theo Gibb and Rees Wesson will be covering different aspects of melodeon maintenance and there will be another workshop on tunes from the Yorkshire Dales. Theo will also offer a melodeon-fettling service throughout the weekend.
The cost remains the same as in 2018 (i.e. £80), but bookings won't open until 1 November. If you haven't already done so, you can subscribe to our mailing list to be kept up to date with developments. To join the mailing list go to http://melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/
While bookings cannot be taken before 1 November, accommodation can be booked as soon as you like. See our website for a list of recommended accommodation. If booking into The Fountain Hotel, where some of our sessions will take place, please book direct with the Hotel and not through a booking agency. This will gain you a concessionary price if you mention that it is for Melodeons in Wensleydale.
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Great. We've booked the b+b already so we don't end up complaining about noise...nothing worse than being kept awake by melodeons... (not that I've ever been guilty of that >:E)
J
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I've split the 2019 and 2018 Melodeons in Wewnsleyday into two separate topics.
The 2018 topic is here (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,20706.0.html)
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Looks great!
I just booked a room at the Fountain - they told me they're half full already for that week-end, which is pretty good going this far in advance!
Room rate seems extremely reasonable - thanks for arranging this, Bob :-)
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Congratulations on the line-up Bob ... that is an excellent selection for what I can confirm is a brilliant venue and stunning location for a melodeon workshop weekend.
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If booking into The Fountain Hotel, where some of our sessions will take place, please book direct with the Hotel and not through a booking agency. This will gain you a concessionary price if you mention that it is for Melodeons in Wensleydale.
Fountain booked again ;D, however, don't hold your breath for a concession, none was offered even following a query.
Claire
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When I booked I was told that they were holding at this year's prices, if that counts as a discount.
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Tufty is correct. Prices have gone up, but the landlady, Mandi, agreed to charge the pre-increase prices to those booking for Melodeons in Wensleydale, which does constitute a discount. If anyone is not receiving the pre-increase price, please let me know and I will take it up with Mandi.
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Hooray!!!! I've booked into The Fountain at the preferential rate ;D
Sounds like there's probably only one room left, definitely no single rooms.
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Just been into the Fountain to book, one family room only remaining folks!
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Just been into the Fountain to book, one family room only remaining folks!
I booked some time ago - the cost seemed to be £2 less than I paid last year. They did ask for a deposit though.
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Bookings for Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019 will open just after midnight tonight (I believe the precise time will be 12.15 a.m.). We shall begin processing the bookings tomorrow morning and will confirm bookings on a first-come-first-served basis within the next few days. Further details including the programme, tutors, workshop details and booking form can be found on our website at www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk
For anyone unaware of Melodeons in Wensleydale, it is a weekend of melodeon workshops, sessions and a concert held in a museum at Hawes in beautiful Wensleydale in North Yorkshire. The dates are 10-12 May 2019, the cost is £80 per person excluding food and accommodation, and the main tutors for 2019 are Pascale Rubens and Toon van Mierlo (who comprise the highly-rated Belgian band, Naragonia), Saul Rose and Brian Peters. For more details or to book a place on the course, go to our website.
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Have just booked! (Got home late from a French session, way too much wine and cheese!) ;D
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Have just booked! (Got home late from a French session, way too much wine and cheese!) ;D
A nice bit of Wensleydale to accompany Adieu les filles perhaps ? I got up early to book - would have been terrible to miss what promises to be a great weekend - this years was !
J
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I've just tried to book but the link from the email doesn't work, and I can't find a way to go direct from the website
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Have you tried searching "Booking" on the website. It shows the booking form. I didn't use this method of booking and don't know whether it will work. I used the link from the email sent out to subscribers of the mailing list. Good luck.
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Thanks Nigel. That got me to the booking form and I have booked. I had to go back and enter a phone number and I think the form deleted my workshop choices, just caught a glimpse before it disappeared! I've emailed M in W.
I hope to see you there.
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Here's the URL for the booking form. I will contact the webmaster because this form should now be available directly from the 'How to Book' tab.
http://melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/payment-by-bank-transfer-or-cheque/
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Sorry things got a bit missed in the last minute rush.
you can use this link to book:
http://melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/how-to-book/
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Looking forward to it.
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A message for Nigel Brace: I can't remember the name you use here, hence the public posting. I have tried to e-mail you twice today about your booking for Melodeons in Wensleydale and both messages have suffered a delivery failure. Either there is something wrong with your e-mail or I have the address wrong. Please contact me so that we can sort it out.
Best wishes,
Bob
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Looking forward to it.
We are looking forward to meeting you, Joan.
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A message for Nigel Brace
I've sent a PM and email, Bob
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I presume we will get booking acknowledgements in due course (no prob with link and got my payment receipt yesterday)
Julian
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So what tunings do your Belgian tutors usually play in? I though DG was pretty much unique to the UK?
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So what tunings do your Belgian tutors usually play in? I though DG was pretty much unique to the UK?
Although Naragonia generally play G/C boxes, they are very adaptable. Toon will be teaching two D/G workshops; Pascale will teach one D/G and one G/C workshop.
You can see for yourself on the MIW website:
http://melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/workshops-2019
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I presume we will get booking acknowledgements in due course (no prob with link and got my payment receipt yesterday)
Julian
Yes, booking confirmations will be sent out in the next couple of days.
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Booked (:) :||: :||:
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Pascale will teach one D/G and one G/C workshop.
I'd like to go to Pascale's workshop but don't have a G/C. Will there be any to borrow?
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Pascale will teach one D/G and one G/C workshop.
I'd like to go to Pascale's workshop but don't have a G/C. Will there be any to borrow?
I will be there with my Wesson Accordions hat on and can bring two or three G/C boxes, some for sale some too precious to sell - all will be available on loan for the day.
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Thanks for that, Rees. I have a GCF Austrian box that I could also loan out for the G/C workshop.
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55 of the 80 available places have already been taken and some workshops are almost full, so anyone who doesn't book quickly runs the risk missing out on their first choices if they delay.
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Thanks Rees, I'd like to take you up on that offer of a G/C box.
I've now booked.
Cheers
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I've just sent out the email confirming the workshops for all 61 applicants (that includes me!!).
If anyone feels that they have been wrongly allocated or not received the email (remember to look in your junkmail), please reply to the email or pm me here and we will look into it.
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73 of the 80 places on Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019 have now been filled. By amazing good fortune there is still at least one place available on each of the main workshops, although most of them have no more than two or three places left. It would be wise to move quickly if you want to book a place on this course but haven't done so yet.
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http://www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/ isn't working for me. No error message, just a blank screen. Same on mac (Safari and Firefox) and phone
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http://www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/ (http://www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/) isn't working for me. No error message, just a blank screen. Same on mac (Safari and Firefox) and phone
Error 500 Internal Server Error is a very general HTTP status code that means something has gone wrong on the web site's server
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http://www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/ (http://www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk/) isn't working for me. No error message, just a blank screen. Same on mac (Safari and Firefox) and phone
Error 500 Internal Server Error is a very general HTTP status code that means something has gone wrong on the web site's server
Thanks for the heads up - something seems to have gone wrong with an update (important to keep a wordpress website up to date). I've renamed the offending plugin directory and we seem to be up again now. Needs some more investigation when I have time tomorrow.
PS You might see some strange error messages on the top of pages - I've enabled a "debug/verbose" mode so that i can see what is happeneing.
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Didn't make it last year because of the onset of tinnitus. Now I can't make it because that is the weekend that all course work gets sent away at school. You'll see a lot of relieved teachers after May 15th.
Good luck, glad it's on its second year and I do hope to make it sometime.
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The music will be made available in a couple of days to those who have signed up for Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019.
In the meantime, for those with motorhomes or camper vans (not caravans or tents, unfortunately) there will be free parking available on a cordoned-off area of the car park at the Dales Countryside Museum, where the event takes place.
To book a place place for your motorhome/camper van, please email your vehicle's make, model and registration number to be at bob@bpellis.idps.co.uk
For those who haven't yet booked a place on Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019, there are still a very small number of places available. Go to our website, www.melodeonsinwensleydale.org.uk, for further information.
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I've just sent emails to the 74 attendees for MIW2019 with the details of the downloads for each of the workshops.
If anyone thinks they ought to have had one and not got it, please contact me - reply to a previous email, post here or PM me.
However remember to look in your spam folder first!!
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Really looking forward to the weekend - some really great tunes to learn on the programme.
My personal target - to master 'Pink Molly' - Toon van Mierlo. I've been working on it for months and whilst most of the notes are in the right order...
And of course meeting up with friends old and new.
J
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I've had a few replies from people basically saying that they weren't really sure which workshops they were booked for!
I'll do another email in the morning to everyone laying out which workshops we have them down for..
edit:22nd 9:40 - Email sent to all.
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So... your thoughts please. Obviously it's great to have the downloads ahead of time and to at least get familiar with the sound of the tunes. But given that I'm going to be traveling for 2+ weeks in April, there is probably not time to learn them to any serious degree ahead of the event. April travel will be focused on other music (though still melodeon) so with little or no time to think about the specific tunes for this event.
This is my first workshop like this (given that I'm coming from San Francisco). Advice please, on how to get the most out of all of this with the nice advance notice of what we'll be playing.
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So... your thoughts please. Obviously it's great to have the downloads ahead of time and to at least get familiar with the sound of the tunes. But given that I'm going to be traveling for 2+ weeks in April, there is probably not time to learn them to any serious degree ahead of the event. April travel will be focused on other music (though still melodeon) so with little or no time to think about the specific tunes for this event.
This is my first workshop like this (given that I'm coming from San Francisco). Advice please, on how to get the most out of all of this with the nice advance notice of what we'll be playing.
Even if you can't get to play them very much in the time - just listen to the tunes and get to know them that way.
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The idea of circulating the tunes in advance is so that less time is spent during the weekend learning the basic tunes and more time can be spent on exploring ways of interpreting them. If you have little time to work on them before you arrive, then I would suggest trying to play through the melody of each tune a few times to get the feel of it. Anything beyond that, such as whether to play a tune along one row or across the rows and what basses to play, will be covered by the tutor during the workshop.
Nobody is expected to know any of the tunes perfectly before they arrive, just to have a rough idea of them. As the workshops unfold, the way in which you play the tunes will alter, so it is a positive advantage not to have a particular way of playing them entrenched in your mind.
If you feel the need for further advice about this or any other aspect of Melodeons in Wensleydale, feel free to post here or to PM me.
We look forward to meeting you in May.
Bob Ellis
(Course Director: Melodeons in Wensleydale)
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A room has become available at the Fountain Hotel, where we will be holding the pub sessions, because somebody has had to withdraw through ill health. All the rooms there were booked out to people on the course in the hope that we wouldn't get any complaints about the noise from the session from people trying to sleep overhead (although the sessions will finish at 11.30 pm).
I have reserved the room that has become available so that it doesn't go to anybody outside the course. If anybody would like it, please contact me in the first instance rather than the Fountain. It is a double room and I can provide further details if you PM me. The room could go to somebody already booked on the course or to somebody who hasn't booked yet because there are still a handful of places left.
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The room at the Fountain has now been taken.
Only four places left on the course, so, if you want one, I suggest you book quickly.
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Unfortunately, due to injury (knee issues) I am unable to make it to Wensleydale. Very sorry to let you all down and rather annoyed!
Enjoy a great weekend doing what you love - namely :||: :|||:
Nick
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With sympathies to Nick (I had to pull out last year with tinnitus), I've now pounced on his place and accommodation. So I shall be with those at Melodeons in Wensleydale 2019. Vicky - I would of course have chosen your mini workshop, but it's booked up. Hope to catch up there none the less.
In a week where holidays have fallen through and the boiler has broken this is a little bit of sunshine to cling to.
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It is a shame that Nick and one or two others have had to pull out due to health problems. There are still a couple of places left, so it's not too late if anyone else fancies a weekend of squeezing in beautiful Wensleydale!
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Just spent the evening looking at B1 and A2 music for Pascale and Toon's sessions. Looking forward to them. I might be stretching skills by taking two sessions on different key boxes.
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Just spent the evening looking at B1 and A2 music for Pascale and Toon's sessions. Looking forward to them. I might be stretching skills by taking two sessions on different key boxes.
It's better to stretch your skills than leave them idle.
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Yep - stretching is good. If I had a half decent G/C box I would probably have chosen workshops differently, but I'm really looking forward to progressing some tunes I already play (or more realistically mangle !) towards some form of musicality...The Naragonia dots are just the bare bones of their wonderful music.
Digressing, I have to say I am wondering about a drastic restructuring of my box collection (- do I actually need a Giordy and could I just use a decent pokerwork -as I used to do, instead of the Dino for morris ?) thereby freeing up cash for a good G/C. And I suspect there will be someone at MinW who'd be happy to supply if I only had the dosh !
J
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You might not need to spend as much as you think for a nice GC. I will have a very nice 1930s Hohner GC for sale that I renovated last year.
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Just spent the evening looking at B1 and A2 music for Pascale and Toon's sessions. Looking forward to them. I might be stretching skills by taking two sessions on different key boxes.
Me too - and with an MSc exam yesterday I've scarcely looked at the music as yet (at least I've given it a good listening to though :D).
Having enjoyed your posts on here, I'll look forward to finally putting a face to the name.
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Thanks, I'm always nervous of actually being heard playing, but I'll get over it. See you soon.
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I'll be doing minor repairs and alterations during the weekend.
If you know in advance that you have a job for me please get in touch so I can make sure I bring the right parts and tools.
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And I suspect there will be someone at MinW who'd be happy to supply if I only had the dosh !
J
[Oh,I think I can helpout with that,I have a nice GC selling for a customer and several Castagnaris in GC which may just wander up to Hawes :D/quote]
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Is there a session in the Fountain on Friday night as well as Saturday? (please)
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I will be there looking for a session on Friday night!
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There will be a session led by Brian Read in the Fountain Hotel on Friday afternoon from 15:00 to 17:00 for those who have arrived by then. There will also be a session in the Dales Countryside Museum on Friday evening from 20:00 to 22:00 (bring your own liquid refreshment!) and a continuation for those who wish in the Fountain from 22:15 to 23:30. What more could anyone want?
Final e-mail instructions will be sent out tomorrow to all who have booked on the course. If you have booked and do not receive an e-mail, please let me know.
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Hope you all have a wonderful time. So sorry I can't be with you this year. I shall be especially sad to miss Toon and Pascale of Naragonia...
Well done to Bob and Brian for organising it again.
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We'll miss you, Steve!
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Wishing everyone a really good weekend.
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Just back from Hawes. Congratulations to Bob and the team for sorting out the weekend. Very well organised! Now I need to go for a lie down, my brain hurts :Ph
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Sorry I didn't put faces to names this weekend: I've come away without building those links, but have met some great people.
I cannot quite believe what a deeply rewarding weekend this was. I had workshops with Pascale and Toon, (and Vicky), and then sat close to them for the evening performance. I wasn't very sociable after that concert as I just wanted to preserve the wonder of it rather than talking it out of my memory. Drove all the way home without the radio on, just considering things I can do next.
I also tried a wonderful Castagnari 1914 (thanks, Pete), but as the boiler has been replaced at home I'm going to have to think of new ways to afford a new box. Pascale also suggested a 3 row box, after our workshop.
I realise my post is a stream of consciousness, but I was completely stopped in my tracks by how moving the weekend was.
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A great weekend - wonderfully organised by the team. Thanks all !
Excellent workshops, stunning performances in the concert,fun sessions, perfect venue, meeting old (and new) friends...
And of course opportunities to drool over the instruments on Pete and Theo's stalls.
I'm already looking forward to next years event.
Julian
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Thank you to Bob and Brian. What a great weekend.
Loved listening to Saul and Naragonia at the concert on Saturday night. First time I have heard either live and all of the workshops I went to were also completely inspiring.
Of course it was all helped with stunning weather. I knew Bob would deliver the sun....
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Thank you Bob for a fantastic week end of Melodeons at Wensleydale, a stunning location.
The Workshops were excellent. An inspiration.. Enjoyed the Saturday evening Concert it was all over too quickly.
The week end had a wonderful atmosphere. It was lovely meeting old and new friends too. :||:
Thanks to Pete for the opportunity try out an instrument or two!
With best wishes T
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Sorry I didn't put faces to names this weekend
Ditto - though I spotted you, and enjoyed your solo improv in Pascale's workshop whilst I was trying to get my fuddled brain to keep up :-)
Lots to come to terms with from the weekend to get techniques into practice, and think about what & how I want to play in future!
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Yes another excellent weekend: well done Bob and his team for some inspiring tutors in a great venue.
Pity I didn't get to meet any other Melnetters other than Julian S, Tufty, Gena, and Vicky.
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Thank you for a brilliant weekend. I enjoyed every minute and have learned a great deal. Looked at lots of melodeons and am now thoroughly befuddled. Happy though.
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What a weekend ..... probably the best melodeon workshop event I've been to, ever! Thank you Bob and the team ;D
Two brilliant workshops with Toon caused me major brain overloads, but really opened up new insights into creating music with melodeons and extracting the most from our funny instruments.
There's so much to remember, practice and hopefully incorporate into my playing.
And that concert - just stunning musicianship.
Finally, it was lovely to be among such a friendly bunch of people, lots of renewing of old acquaintances and making new ones.
PS Hugh, we met at the Friday night session - we even had a brief conversation about people not using their real name on Melnet!
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PS Hugh, we met at the Friday night session - we even had a brief conversation about people not using their real name on Melnet!
Ah yes I remember. I didn't recognise you from your Melnet photo as you weren't wearing a straw hat!
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I also met you, Hugh. I was quite taken aback at how tall you were, and you; how short I was!
Enjoyed your playing at the sessions, nevertheless.
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I'd forgotten it was this weekend ... I'm glad to see how much everyone enjoyed it again ... I thought the first one last year was incredible ... you lucky people!
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Thanks to Bob and team,and the staff at the venue.
Good to meet lots of people, existing customers and new.
Special thanks to those customers who decided to make a purchase.
More events coming up that Acorn Instruments will be involved with,and exhibiting at.
Keep an eye on web site.
www.acorninstruments.co.uk (http://www.acorninstruments.co.uk)
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And now to apply some of what I learned - more time on scales, chords, experimentation, revisiting tunes (and looking at the tunes from the workshops I missed) but fundamentally for me, more focussed practising. The wonderful playing of the tutors comes through hard work and application (which I have to say I lack !)
J
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And now to apply some of what I learned - more time on scales, chords,
I felt (and true perhaps with some others in Pascale's GC group?), that I was a bit humbled about not being immediately able to put my fingers on chords (right hand chords). Of course part of the problem was playing DG the whole day before, and that confusion between having some chords in common, but in different places.
I have resolved to resolve this issue with some exercises. I know my layout is different (has Gs and As in both directions) but this rarely affects sharing patterns of chords - although the buttons might be in different places occasionally. In other words, for example, we can all play a low position C chord, but I steal my G from the outside row.
Of course these exercises would also translate to DG, but with different chord names.
If anyone is interested I could share a pdf of these exercises (late night thoughts) and perhaps a video too. But only if it might be of interest.
Thanks again, Bob and Brian, plus the others who helped organise the event.
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I felt (and true perhaps with some others in Pascale's GC group?), that I was a bit humbled about not being immediately able to put my fingers on chords (right hand chords). Of course part of the problem was playing DG the whole day before, and that confusion between having some chords in common, but in different places.
Might I suggest your study include organizing your chords by the I/IV/V method rather than chord naming? Like scale/arpeggio/chord patterns on a two-row keyboard, this allows the player to swap boxes of different keys without the hassle of changing the chord naming not unlike using solfa for melodies.
I learnt this on guitar and it is very handy.
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I felt (and true perhaps with some others in Pascale's GC group?), that I was a bit humbled about not being immediately able to put my fingers on chords (right hand chords). Of course part of the problem was playing DG the whole day before, and that confusion between having some chords in common, but in different places.
Might I suggest your study include organizing your chords by the I/IV/V method rather than chord naming? Like scale/arpeggio/chord patterns on a two-row keyboard, this allows the player to swap boxes of different keys without the hassle of changing the chord naming not unlike using solfa for melodies.
I learnt this on guitar and it is very handy.
I agree. It makes a huge difference when swopping melodeons.
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What a great and well organised weekend. Thank you Bob and Brian. Lovely to meet some new people and make contact again with old friends.
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I felt (and true perhaps with some others in Pascale's GC group?), that I was a bit humbled about not being immediately able to put my fingers on chords (right hand chords). Of course part of the problem was playing DG the whole day before, and that confusion between having some chords in common, but in different places.
Might I suggest your study include organizing your chords by the I/IV/V method rather than chord naming? Like scale/arpeggio/chord patterns on a two-row keyboard, this allows the player to swap boxes of different keys without the hassle of changing the chord naming not unlike using solfa for melodies.
I learnt this on guitar and it is very handy.
I know what you mean, and appreciate the tip, but as I'm not sticking to a key, but using all the basses / chords in each exercise then the chords would become floaters, Am could be frequently chord I in the music I play, but then when I play a piece in C, it would be chord VI.
I am sticking for the purpose of this to only using G push chords, and F pull chords.(GC speak). Main issue is to build a combination of muscle memory (yes I know there's no such thing, except it is a good way of expressing it) and improve the knowledge of the note name of each button (one reason for sticking to one direction for the doubled chords). Despite my willingness to help others of course, this is aimed primarily at supporting my weaknesses.
Perhaps we'll see what the first one looks like and feels like. I suspect that it might even improve my ability to change boxes, as the right hand and left hand are tied together in these patterns.
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P&T...
You're thinking backwards there. If you think of the "functional" designation first (IIm7 for example), the actual pitch is a gimme...for every key. If you go by the "pitched" chord name they will be different according to position/relationship/function, but if you go by the position/relationship/function, all chords of any key will be generated automatically...if you need the names.
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Maybe I'll start a new thread on this.
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Thanks very much for all the kind comments about Melodeons in Wensleydale and thanks to everyone who attended. Your cooperation and cheerful camaraderie helped to create a lovely positive vibe that suffused the whole weekend.
I was too busy making sure things ran smoothly to spend more than a few minutes in a couple of workshops, so I would be grateful if any of you who took any photographs you would be willing to share could send me copies of them for use to illustrate an article about the weekend for a local magazine. My e-mail address is bob@bpellis.idps.co.uk
If anyone made any recordings in the workshops, I would be grateful for copies, so I can reap some benefits from the workshops in my own playing. I would be particularly interested in a recording of the beautiful arrangement of L'Ordre Théresien that Toon taught to his Sunday class.
The dates for next year are 24-26 April, so put them in your diaries if you are hoping to attend.
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Interesting that you've just made a request for photographs & recordings Bob; I was just about to ask the same thing for the benefit of those of us who were unable to attend this year. I appreciate that filming may have been low on the list when concentrating on the valuable teaching going on, but if anyone caught the odd snatch of the excellent artists relaxing with a catchy tune it would be great to see something on You Tube. Maybe you should think about appointing a non-musician with the task next year Bob? Dates for 2020 noted; sounds like a really top class event.
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Actually my wife (Sheila) was acting Girl Friday and did take some photos and videos. We have not really looked at them yet, but I'll make them available through here at some point.
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Interesting that you've just made a request for photographs & recordings Bob; I was just about to ask the same thing for the benefit of those of us who were unable to attend this year.
The tutors have ownership of their workshops and, although they granted permission for people to make recordings, it was for the personal use of of the people in their workshops, not for dissemination to others or publication on YouTube. I hope everyone can appreciate that this is a reasonable position to take. After all, if the material were published on YouTube or disseminated widely, there would be no incentive to attend the workshops in the first place. Numbers might then drop to a point where the event becomes no longer viable.
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Interesting that you've just made a request for photographs & recordings Bob; I was just about to ask the same thing for the benefit of those of us who were unable to attend this year.
The tutors have ownership of their workshops and, although they granted permission for people to make recordings, it was for the personal use of of the people in their workshops, not for dissemination to others or publication on YouTube. I hope everyone can appreciate that this is a reasonable position to take. After all, if the material were published on YouTube or disseminated widely, there would be no incentive to attend the workshops in the first place. Numbers might then drop to a point where the event becomes no longer viable.
oops - yes - noted - so Sheila's recordings will not be uploaded without agreement of the tutors. Pictures I presume could be though?
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The tutors have ownership of their workshops and, although they granted permission for people to make recordings, it was for the personal use of of the people in their workshops, not for dissemination to others or publication on YouTube. I hope everyone can appreciate that this is a reasonable position to take. After all, if the material were published on YouTube or disseminated widely, there would be no incentive to attend the workshops in the first place. Numbers might then drop to a point where the event becomes no longer viable.
I totally agree with Bob about this. It is standard practice for just about every workshop event that I have attended or taught over the years. Any recordings/videos are made (a) with the permission of the tutors at the time, (b) with the permission of the particiants present at the time, and (c) with the absolute understanding that they are for private study use only and not to be shared with others, whether on social media or by other means.
In many cases the tutors earn a substantial proportion of their living through professional fees paid to them at workshops. To publicly make available unauthorised recordings or videos is, not only as Bob has indicated, to reduce incentive to attend future workshops, but also to directly undermine that livelihood. Please don't do it.
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Just to add my slightly belated thanks to everyone who attended my minor tunes mini workshop on the Saturday.
Thanks for giving it your time and attention despite many of us (me included) having had our brains well and truly frazzled by that point!
Huge thanks to t'management for the organisation and for booking Brian, Toon, Pascale and Saul as such excellent tutors.
And lastly thanks to all that took time to chat to me, it was lovely to catch up with familiar faces and meet some new ones. It's like having a lovely big extended family you don't get to meet up with often enough!
Hope to see you all in 2020,
Vicky.
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The tutors have ownership of their workshops and, although they granted permission for people to make recordings, it was for the personal use of of the people in their workshops, not for dissemination to others or publication on YouTube. I hope everyone can appreciate that this is a reasonable position to take. After all, if the material were published on YouTube or disseminated widely, there would be no incentive to attend the workshops in the first place. Numbers might then drop to a point where the event becomes no longer viable.
I definitely agree with all this, but as someone in the United States for whom attending a melodeon workshop in England is unlikely to be a regular opportunity, I've wondered in the past whether it would be logistically possible to make a "distance learner" registration available that would have access to videos and workshop materials. Obviously, it wouldn't compare to actually being there and being able to talk to the workshop tutor, but personally I would be quite happy to pay for the privilege of sitting in on a workshop "virtually".
Maybe the logistics would be too much effort for little payback, but maybe it's something worth considering?
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The tutors have ownership of their workshops and, although they granted permission for people to make recordings, it was for the personal use of of the people in their workshops, not for dissemination to others or publication on YouTube. I hope everyone can appreciate that this is a reasonable position to take. After all, if the material were published on YouTube or disseminated widely, there would be no incentive to attend the workshops in the first place. Numbers might then drop to a point where the event becomes no longer viable.
I totally agree with Bob about this. It is standard practice for just about every workshop event that I have attended or taught over the years. Any recordings/videos are made (a) with the permission of the tutors at the time, (b) with the permission of the particiants present at the time, and (c) with the absolute understanding that they are for private study use only and not to be shared with others, whether on social media or by other means.
In many cases the tutors earn a substantial proportion of their living through professional fees paid to them at workshops. To publicly make available unauthorised recordings or videos is, not only as Bob has indicated, to reduce incentive to attend future workshops, but also to directly undermine that livelihood. Please don't do it.
I also agree with Bob & everyone else regarding the workshops - which is why I said 'relaxing with a catchy tune' . I should have added 'with permission' as well of course. Just jealous of those who were able to attend and looking for a hint of the atmosphere; I would not wish to compromise the livelihoods of artists I admire.
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Thanks again to Bob, Brian and all the tutors for a great weekend. Definitely taking home a bunch of new ideas and things to work on! Hope to see some of you again in August (Jesse F, the guitarist, and I will be at Towersey). And yes -- I agree with Jesse here that it would be nice to have someone do some virtual subscription workshops sometime!
Best,
Joan
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And yes -- I agree with Jesse here that it would be nice to have someone do some virtual subscription workshops sometime!
As I see it, there are several dfficulties with presenting a live workshop on-line, via subscription. The overall permissions/confidentiallity/intellectual property/copyright issues have already been touch upon.
But added to that are
(a) the cost of decent video and recording equipment - who pays for it?
(b) having a sufficient sized room to set it all up in - many workshop spaces are cramped or awkward shapes.
(c) someone who knows their stuff to operate the gear - who pays the operator?
and, not least,
(d) the sheer intrusiveness of having such a set-up and procedure in the the presence of the tutor and the participants.
With regard to (d) in my many years experience of workshops, both teaching and participating, they are very much unscripted and immersive occurences with much to-and-fro interaction (not to mention banter) between tutor and participants. To pick up all these nuances would require something like a proper television film crew with more than one camera to give the ability to switch and pan between people. It's no good having a microphone and camera just aimed at the tutor - this would almost certainly result in questions and comments 'from the floor' being inaudible and invisible. Also, the tutor will often move around the group during the workshop, again leading to camera following diffiiculties.
Finally, though you may not believe this, many tutors get very nervous indeed prior to, and during, teaching a workshop. It's different from an on-stage performance which will have been carefully rehearsed beforehand. In a workshop, you never know quite what will happen, what mistakes you will make as a tutor, who will throw a curve-ball in the middle, who will swear, who will dissolve into floods of tears (I've seen it happen, thankfully not when I was a tutor). I don't think that has any place in a video recording. It's a workshop, not the Big Brother House.
No - call me a grumpy old git if you want, but personally I would not welcome a video being made in any of my workshops. I guess some other tutors might feel differently, although all the safeguards and practicallities would still need to be met.
If you want virtual on-line tuition, I suggest you contact a tutor such as Mel Biggs for lessons via skype.
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call me a grumpy old git if you want
You are a grumpy old git 8)
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You are a grumpy old git 8)
Cheers, Lester! 8)
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Finally, though you may not believe this, many tutors get very nervous indeed prior to, and during, teaching a workshop.
I’m not totally surprised about your comments as some adrenalin is required. However, the tutors at all of the workshops I’ve attended have failed to expose any nerves. They’ve been so professional, confident, helpful and convivial. This most certainly includes you two grumpy old gits.
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A somewhat tardy addition to the chorus of applause, shouts of Bravo! and Encore! Following the 5 hour plus drive back to leafy Surrey I’ve been a bit busy, but I must say this last course was even better than the inaugural one in 2018.
Not only did Bob lay on another absolutely stonking lineup of tutors, but he also managed a replay of the glorious sunny spring weather which graced the previous year’s weekend. I do hope he sustains this performance. Looking at the two tutors booked for next year the future looks very promising.
Both the workshops I attended this year comfortably stretched my capabilities in a pleasantly invigorating fashion, if occasionally up to breaking point. Thanks to Saul Rose and Brian Peters for their energetic and learned exposition of their subjects. I shall be back next year if I’m spared.