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Title: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: RogerT on June 12, 2018, 08:47:00 AM
A while ago this thread http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,21173.60.html explored the idea of tarting up what was known as 'Malcolm Bebb's Koch'...a Koch box owned by Malcolm sold to NickCB. He subsequently asked me to turn it into a Steampunk box...so as a bit of fun I did.
FYI I replaced the GC reeds with a new set of Harmonikas DG reeds - the 'cheap' ones which are, much to my surprise, not bad. Getting one or two of the high ones to sound was a bit tricky but I got there. And due to the thick dural bass plates I had to inset the bottom half of the large bass reeds in order to get them to squeeze into the the space adjacent to the chord reeds.
Here are some photos..

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LnQo7Nkqg8qVEiYz6

And this song explains the whole steampunkin process very well.
https://youtu.be/TFCuE5rHbPA
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on June 12, 2018, 09:06:51 AM
Good things are worth waiting for.
A fantastic job Rog.😛
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Julian S on June 12, 2018, 09:45:45 AM
Good things are worth waiting for.
A fantastic job Rog.😛

Definitely ! Is that a pressure gauge I see ?

J
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: malcolmbebb on June 12, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
a Koch box owned by Malcolm
sold to blagged by NickCB.  >:E >:E
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He subsequently asked me to turn it into a Steampunk box...so as a bit of fun I did.

Looks like a terrific job - I shall have a more thorough look later, and hope to inspect it in the flesh when next down that way.

I had an old Club I'd planned to do something similar with - quite glad I didn't now.  :||: :||:
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: RogerT on June 12, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
Good things are worth waiting for.
A fantastic job Rog.😛

Definitely ! Is that a pressure gauge I see ?

J
It's a pretend one....  :D
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 12, 2018, 11:00:52 AM
Good things are worth waiting for.
A fantastic job Rog.😛

Definitely ! Is that a pressure gauge I see ?

J
It's a pretend one....  :D

Could a real one be feasible?
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: RogerT on June 12, 2018, 11:12:13 AM
It might be a bit big and heavy. I had to try and balance decoration versus usability - you don't want stuff sticking out too far or that will get in the way of playing the thing. But I did manage to get its boiler lit...  >:E
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on June 12, 2018, 03:11:36 PM
Careful what you say Rog, we are talking about Malcolm Bebb’s old Koch here ! 8)
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on June 13, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
I’m surprised there’s not been much feedback on what I would consider an amazing piece of playable art. :-[
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: malcolmbebb on June 13, 2018, 04:23:12 PM
Waiting to hear you play it :-)
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on June 13, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
Haha! Malcolm , Roger hasn’t delivered it yet but I’m sure you’ll be one of the first to “have a go”  ;D

If you can light the boiler that is.
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Garry Probert on June 13, 2018, 08:52:15 PM
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I’m surprised there’s not been much feedback on what I would consider an amazing piece of playable art.
I watched the video and still dont really understand what it is. I sort of want all the parts to actally work

Not really a fan of frippery but thats probebly why the little woman calls me mr shabby,perhaps I need some steam punking lol

 
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 13, 2018, 09:10:34 PM
I love the way it looks. I just like it when stuff does stuff  :D
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Jesse Smith on June 13, 2018, 10:02:51 PM
This has got me thinking, though... What would it take to create some kind of portable, steam powered diatonic push-pull calliope organ? Presuming one is comfortable wearing a steam engine on their chest.

Or perhaps such a thing actually existed at some point?
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 13, 2018, 10:10:51 PM
Here you go, Jesse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odMCKR54VRc
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Broadland Boy on June 13, 2018, 10:36:45 PM
Nick, how is the top hat conversion progressing for your 'tiddler'

Roger, (with pedant mode on), it looks like you might have some trouble with those gear chains, some being cut in D/G and some being C/F  ;D

Jesse - steam conversion is fairly simple if you happen to  have one of those tree felling or whale beheading saws hanging around to drive the bellows although it might limit what tunes can be played at the right pace...........
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on June 14, 2018, 06:14:49 AM
Nick, how is the top hat conversion progressing for your 'tiddler'



Aaah I’d forgotten that, I’ll get to work on it Richard.
Title: Re: ...just glue some gears on it ... Koch 'converted' to Steampunk for NickCB
Post by: RogerT on June 15, 2018, 06:38:49 AM
Obviously it’s just a bit o fun. But I was trying to avoid it looking like it just had a few gears glued on (I don’t really know if I managed that...I’ve been staring at it for too long), but at the same time keep it practical and functional, and not taking weeks to transform it. In the back of my mind I have an idea to decorate accordions within a given theme e.g. a Mondrian theme, or a Cubist theme (say), to create something unique, where the look of it is maybe more important than its use. This was an interesting exercise, being more akin to finishing a painting than a functional restoration. I found it much harder and more challenging than straight forward restoration, and it took me ages, learning the process. I’d probably do some conceptual drawings next time and treat it as an exercise in sculpture rather than music instrument restoration. If it had been my box I’d have been a bit less restrained possibly, but I was also working out what might or might not look ok. And I didn’t want Nick saying 'what the **** have you done to my Koch' or similar (:). Anyway, to emphasise, it’s just a bit of harmless fun.