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Title: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Clive Williams on October 02, 2018, 09:40:25 AM
Hi all, with apologies for the delay, this month's winner is

Hesleyside Reel - trad from Northumbria; here's a great version to learn it from by Gavin Atkin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TStsxe3ws although I confess to also liking this slow version too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELtqzqlbRJo, also Owen's version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nYYDt1ZMUU and Lester's most recent version here https://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.com/2018/09/tune-506-hesleyside-reel.html which has ABC on the page for those that want it.

Happy playing!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on October 02, 2018, 11:16:25 AM
https://youtu.be/Si6OH9ky1fg

Three short versions, GD Pokerwork, straightforward, G 4 stop one row, CF Hohner with some chord variations and slightly slower.

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Mike Carney on October 02, 2018, 12:11:16 PM
https://soundcloud.com/oysterboy6/the-hesleyside-reel

Cheers
Mike
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Mcgrooger on October 02, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
Here's mine. I decided to play it with a dotted rhythm after hearing it come out that way on one of the website versions referenced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTRmx1rbsos

Cheers.

Steve
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Saul Bailey on October 02, 2018, 03:51:58 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Roger Howard on October 02, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM

Especially when played so beautifully - the C/F sounds lovely.


Roger
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Fred on October 02, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Ah so many good versions already. I especially enjoyed the CF version of folkbluesnbeyond as well as Mike's straightforward soundcloud recording. Both very inspiring to me. Will repair my Hohner Club II in C/F real quick and then record the tune on it. (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Jackhumphreys on October 02, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM


I'm loving the gentle refinement and varied harmonic treatments. Thanks very much for posting. Inspirational. We can be proud to play this instrument, with this example of musicianship to inspire us!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: playandteach on October 02, 2018, 10:50:54 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM
I feel like a thug caught with his trousers down when I hear playing like this.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Mike Carney on October 02, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM
Beautiful - arrangement, feel, rhythm. Inspiring, as others have said!
M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Ellison on October 03, 2018, 08:29:50 AM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM

That's lovely Saul.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Gena Crisman on October 03, 2018, 11:29:30 AM
I'd like to point out that, as written, this tune falls entirely within a single octave, so if happen to have any other octaves available on your instrument, you could experiment with playing the tune there, too.

This thought applies to both high/low octaves within the keys of your instrument, as well as out of layout keys - for example, C on a DG box.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Lester on October 03, 2018, 11:44:29 AM
I'd like to point out that, as written, this tune falls entirely within a single octave, so if happen to have any other octaves available on your instrument, you could experiment with playing the tune there, too.

This thought applies to both high/low octaves within the keys of your instrument, as well as out of layout keys - for example, C on a DG box.


With a G Scale box it's playable in 3 octaves in G
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Nick Ray on October 06, 2018, 08:26:41 AM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM

Beautiful interpretation Saul. Not being rude but did you work it all out yourself or have you seen others play it in a similar way? I'm interested in learning from your style and the full range of bass notes approach that you use in this tune and try and apply it to others.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Saul Bailey on October 07, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
Love this tune, it's just one of those ones that naturally sound nice!

https://youtu.be/VFj2Bn_GDpM

Beautiful interpretation Saul. Not being rude but did you work it all out yourself or have you seen others play it in a similar way? I'm interested in learning from your style and the full range of bass notes approach that you use in this tune and try and apply it to others.

Many thanks

Well I think most of us recognise a basic chord structure, especially regarding that B chord... but this is really a result of noodling around. I just like discovering the full potential of a box - if you've got 12 basses I say use 'em!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Clive Williams on October 07, 2018, 04:39:22 PM
Thanks for the great versions so far; here's mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmaiMLoogDw

Played in C on the G/C Hohner Lilliput converted by Kay Albrecht. What a great tune! Don't know why I've never really tried to play it before?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Thoon on October 15, 2018, 08:45:22 AM
Hi!

https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: xgx on October 15, 2018, 10:17:28 AM
Thank you, that was a joy to listen to!

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: boblsturm on October 15, 2018, 10:55:02 AM
Hi!

https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k

FAB!!! Did you dub some in?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Thoon on October 15, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
Hi!

https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k

FAB!!! Did you dub some in?

Sorry, I don’t speak english very well... What do you mean by « dub some in »?..

xgx : I think you ask me about one video I play concertina. (Duet Concertina.. not easier than melodeon about ergonomic holding..)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: xgx on October 15, 2018, 12:29:08 PM
xgx : I think you ask me about one video I play concertina. (Duet Concertina.. not easier than melodeon about ergonomic holding..)
Merci!
I found your youtube about your concertina via the link to Concertina.net  :)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Eshed on October 15, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
Sorry, I don’t speak english very well... What do you mean by « dub some in »?..
I think he asked whether you added a second audio track. I believe he's talking about the part starting 1:36, but it is possible to see that your fingers are doing all the (very impressive) work and there was no need for editing (:).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Thoon on October 15, 2018, 02:19:30 PM
Thanks Eshed! I see. And you are right. No editing and no second audio track. I just keep finger pressed longer than the normal duration of the note of the melody (I play the next notes of the melody with the other available fingers...) to "create a second voice"..
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Winston Smith on October 15, 2018, 02:34:28 PM
Can't say that I'm overly struck by the tune, but your playing is something else, Thoon. Wonderful!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: playandteach on October 15, 2018, 05:51:42 PM
Hi!

https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k
That's fantastic. Bravo.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Pete Dunk on October 19, 2018, 09:57:21 PM
Hi!

https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k (https://youtu.be/vobLTIKqc8k)


Wonderful, fluent and imaginative playing as always. Your Engish is generally excellent, a few phrases (usually technical language which most other English speakers wouldn't immediately recognise either) catch you out, but I bet we can't do that twice!  ;)


Pete.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Thoon on October 20, 2018, 08:46:50 AM
Thanks Pete! And playandteach and all others.. 😉🙂
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on October 20, 2018, 11:17:16 AM
Thanks for the great versions so far; here's mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmaiMLoogDw

Played in C on the G/C Hohner Lilliput converted by Kay Albrecht. What a great tune! Don't know why I've never really tried to play it before?

Your basses look straightforward, Clive, but they are far more interesting than anything I have come up with and I am struggling to work out what you are playing  ???
Are they arranged conventially?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Clive Williams on October 20, 2018, 06:48:22 PM
Thanks for the great versions so far; here's mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmaiMLoogDw

Played in C on the G/C Hohner Lilliput converted by Kay Albrecht. What a great tune! Don't know why I've never really tried to play it before?

Your basses look straightforward, Clive, but they are far more interesting than anything I have come up with and I am struggling to work out what you are playing  ???
Are they arranged conventially?

Just for once, yes :-) No thirds though. Most of the magic comes from a fleeting B bass (in D/G speak) slipped in when transitioning from a G chord to a C chord as I recall. I tend to do that quite a lot.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on October 20, 2018, 09:06:52 PM


Your basses look straightforward, Clive, but they are far more interesting than anything I have come up with and I am struggling to work out what you are playing  ???
Are they arranged conventially?

Just for once, yes :-) No thirds though. Most of the magic comes from a fleeting B bass (in D/G speak) slipped in when transitioning from a G chord to a C chord as I recall. I tend to do that quite a lot.

Thanks. I think I've got my head (at least the bit with ears on it) around it now. Love that B.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Fred on October 22, 2018, 05:18:41 PM
Wanted to record a simple slow playthrough of the tune. Then a few variations and a bit of unexpected improvisation happened in the end. Have fun listening!

https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/hesleyside-reel-take-2
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Mike Carney on October 22, 2018, 05:42:21 PM
Wanted to record a simple slow playthrough of the tune. Then a few variations and a bit of unexpected improvisation happened in the end. Have fun listening!

https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/hesleyside-reel-take-2
Cool. Very nice improv and sustained chords against the melody.
M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: howard mitchell on October 26, 2018, 01:36:12 PM
Here's my recording of The Hesleyside Reel -

https://youtu.be/zRt5cXVFLkU (https://youtu.be/zRt5cXVFLkU)

I'd appreciate comments on the playing and the sound.

I haven't played in public (except for brief appearances at ECMW and BTMW) for over a year. I have Menieres disease which has destroyed hearing in my right ear of anything below 1200Hz and anything above that is severely distorted. It means that I can't hear the right hand side of the melodeon very well especially in a noisy environment like a stage or a session.

However I now have a hearing aid which picks up sound on the right hand side and transmits it to the right hand side (and simultaneously "switches off" my right ear to stop the distortion).  It's taken some time to get the settings right so it can deal with the dynamic range of free reed instruments but I think we're getting there.

I also can't trust my judgement of the sound quality or stereo image so my recording engineer days are over.  Hence I'd appreciate comments on the sound of this recording.

Thanks

Mitch
 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Winston Smith on October 26, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
No need to worry Mitch. It sounds lovely!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Dick Rees on October 26, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
Here's my recording of The Hesleyside Reel -

https://youtu.be/zRt5cXVFLkU (https://youtu.be/zRt5cXVFLkU)

I'd appreciate comments on the playing and the sound.

I haven't played in public (except for brief appearances at ECMW and BTMW) for over a year. I have Menieres disease which has destroyed hearing in my right ear of anything below 1200Hz and anything above that is severely distorted. It means that I can't hear the right hand side of the melodeon very well especially in a noisy environment like a stage or a session.

However I now have a hearing aid which picks up sound on the right hand side and transmits it to the right hand side (and simultaneously "switches off" my right ear to stop the distortion).  It's taken some time to get the settings right so it can deal with the dynamic range of free reed instruments but I think we're getting there.

I also can't trust my judgement of the sound quality or stereo image so my recording engineer days are over.  Hence I'd appreciate comments on the sound of this recording.

Thanks

Mitch

You have my sympathy.  As I continue to outlive all expectations, fewer things work and nothing works the way it used to do.  Cat Stevens  "Moon Shadow" has become a gospel tune for me, and when I can no longer play an instrument I'll still hear it inside.

Both the playing and the recording are great.  Best of luck.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on October 26, 2018, 01:53:39 PM
Sounds like your hearing aid has done the trick. Congratulations.

It sounds great. Good balance and I love the basses. Some nice bass runs there.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Jackhumphreys on October 27, 2018, 07:03:40 PM
I've really enjoyed this TOTM especially the contrasting versions by Saul and Thoon. Saul's masterly use of push-pull features and bellows/button control to create melodeon-specific  character;  Thoon's total fluency with the 18 bass..... as if he could play any music,  never mind the peculiarities of our instrument.     
I couldn't compete with a straight version, so here are some variations.   Best use headphones, as the recording's rather quiet

https://youtu.be/0qNOuywheHU
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Gena Crisman on October 27, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
... here are some variations.   Best use headphones, as the recording's rather quiet

https://youtu.be/0qNOuywheHU

So, I really enjoyed this - I love the way you've put it together, your chord choices, the ascent into top end of the keyboard, and subsequent fall into minor, pretty much everything about it really - it really tells a story.

Thank you for making it, and, thank you for finally playing the home chord at the end!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Fred on October 27, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
I couldn't compete with a straight version, so here are some variations.   Best use headphones, as the recording's rather quiet

https://youtu.be/0qNOuywheHU

Awesome variations, Jack! Very much enjoyed your approach!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Jackhumphreys on October 28, 2018, 11:30:50 AM
Thanks Fred and Gena!  Glad you liked it and I'm grateful for the encouragement.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Gena Crisman on October 28, 2018, 08:36:10 PM
I opted to take my own inspirational advice - this tune in its most basic form only spans a single octave from tonic to tonic + 1 octave. I've been thinking about C major scales and decided to work out what it would take to play this tune in C major. C major is a scale that exists on a standard layout DG melodeon due to the presence of the F natural accidental, and, crucially, has some support on the bass end.

This tune, when played in C, uses exactly 3 F naturals, in the same way each time, and arguably all of them could probably be skipped over, so, that was fine, but what I felt the tune really needed was a thirds stop. This is because the B section of the music relies heavily on the accompaniment giving something vaguely resembling subdominant function, so, that would usually be the IV chord. When you play in G major, that's a C chord, and, when you play in C major, it's an F chord. Of course, my 8 bass DG doesn't have an F chord, but, D~ chords or D5, or whatever it is we choose to call them, can pass for D minor, which also provides subdominant function in this key, so can fill in for the absent F chord. A minor and E minor are also viable tonic function chords you can use to help keep things moving, so, you end up in a similar situation as you do with B minor - lots of tonic function chords and only one option each for the other functions.

The last crucial component was air management. The notes you want to play your C chord over are pull notes (c and e) , A~ and E~ are pull chords. You can end up with a lot of air in your bellows, so, there are some decisions made specifically to dump air, usually via picking the press D chord where possible, but, mostly with this tune at least, it was fine if you remembered to take any direct action. In the crawl ups in the 2nd bars of most of the lines, the bars that have the F note, I specifically opted to stick with an E minor chord vs a G chord played under a G note just because it sounded better. I tried to find some right hand chording I could do for bar 3 of the B music, as this is the place where the reliance on the D~ chord alone begins to show its weakness, but, it's quite a stretch to include anything with the F note in it at this point.

Anyway, as an experiment, I'm pretty happy with the achievement, I'm not super happy with my playing of it, but, it is what it is - a tune in C major. It was very nice to have Clive's submission (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,22890.msg274016.html#msg274016) on a GC box to practice a long with.

The Hesleyside Reel in C major on a DG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsGKLVxfEZk
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Squeaky Pete on October 28, 2018, 09:07:09 PM
That's really quite convincing.
Is your F on the pull or push?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: george garside on October 28, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
well done Gina.    playing in C on the G row is a useful and interesting exercise  ' For what its worth I only regularly play in C on the G row for the C (3rd) part of the bluebell polka

george
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Gena Crisman on October 28, 2018, 10:29:55 PM
That's really quite convincing.
Is your F on the pull or push?

My F5 that I'm using is on the pull, but, the note is a quaver just before the bar line so played entirely off of the beat, so I think it should work whichever way around.

I only regularly play in C on the G row for the C (3rd) part of the bluebell polka

Thanks! Me too, actually - I wish more people I knew locally would play the C in C, they always drop back to G.

I'm realising now I probably could have spiced up the D~ chord with an A fundamental but still a D chord. It's pretty viable!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Squeaky Pete on October 28, 2018, 10:41:05 PM
Just a bit off the wall, but I've always thought it a bit redundant having C going both ways in the bass and I rarely use the push.
How about a bass F push? The only push note of the triad is the A but the additional F in the bass would also give you a good G7 among other things.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Anahata on October 28, 2018, 10:51:47 PM
Standard club tuning has exactly that in the basses (except usually they are C/F boxes, so it's an E♭ bass push, but same idea, and they often get converted to F if the box is retuned from C/F to D/G, even when the RH side is declubbed.)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: playandteach on October 29, 2018, 12:06:55 AM
I have Menieres disease which has destroyed hearing in my right ear of anything below 1200Hz and anything above that is severely distorted.

Sorry to hear that you've had your playing curtailed - I've also been struggling on and off with some hearing problems, which I've sort of got used to mostly. Your playing still sounds secure and controlled, rest assured. And good luck in the future.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Winston Smith on October 31, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
Hi Pete, If you listen to my offering you'll probably wonder why my playing hasn't been curtailed!
Here it is, my poor approximation of the Hesleyside Reel, warts and all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4uHCD5a6H8&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: playandteach on October 31, 2018, 05:18:49 PM
It's steady and recognisable. 2 important qualities. Keep it up.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Winston Smith on October 31, 2018, 06:31:48 PM
Thank you, Pete. You should join the Diplomatic Corps!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2018: Hesleyside Reel
Post by: Clive Williams on November 01, 2018, 02:30:59 PM
Thanks all - time for the next tune! As ever please feel free to stick late contributions onto the end of this thread.
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