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Title: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Clive Williams on January 01, 2019, 11:57:56 AM
Hi all; this month's winner is Annlaug Borsheim's tune, The Lounge Bar.

Here's Annlaug (on Hardanger) playing it with Rannveig Djönne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMniutrofI and here's Mel's version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIBk6enOQE . Needs a low B ideally for that initial note, but I'm sure that could be replaced with a D or G if you don't have it.

Thanks to Pete and Hugh, here is some ABC for it in D and G

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Lounge Bar, The
M:6/8
L:1/8
C:Annlaug Børsheim-AB ABC B ABC B
N:Learnt from Sam & Elaine Bracken
N:Played 2A 2B 2A2B2C 2B 2A2B2C 2B
Z:Hugh Taylor, December 2017
K:D
B,DF E2 D-|DFA d2 c|BGB AFD|EGF E2 D|
B,DF E2 D-|DFA d2 c|BGB AFD|1 E2 D D3:|2 E2 D-DFA|
|:d2 d-dcA|F3 FEF|GBd-dcA|E3 EDE|
F2F-FED|B,3B,A,B,|CDE-EFE|1 D3 DFA:|2 D3 D3|
|:dBd c2 B-|Bdf e2 c|dcB AcB|AFD E2 D|
  dBd c2 B-|Bdf e2 c|dcB AFD|1 E2 D-D3:|2 E2 D-DFA|

X:2
T:Lounge Bar, The
C:Annlaug Børsheim
D:Toras Dans, 2012, track 5
R:Air
M:6/8
L:1/8%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica,16
%%composerfont Helvetica
%%partsfont Arial, 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
%%barnumbers 1
%%MIDI program 73 % flute
%%MIDI chordprog 1 % piano
P:(AB)2.CB.AB.CB
Q:3/8=80
K:Gmaj
P:A
D |: EGB A2G- |GBd g2f | ece dBG | AcB A2D |
EGB A2G- | GBd g2f | ece dBG |1 A>BA G2D :|2 A>BA GBd ] |
P:B
|: g3 gfd | B3BAB | ceg- gfd | A3 AGA |
B3 BAG | E3 EDE | G2A- ABA |1 G3 GBd :|2 G6 ] |
P:C
|: geg f2e- | egb a2f | gfe dBG | AcB A2G |
geg f2e- | egb a2f | gfe dBG | A>BA G3 :|
geg f2e- | egb a2f | gfe dBG | A>BA G3 :|

Off to learn it properly now :-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on January 01, 2019, 05:09:03 PM

Out of my comfort zone, (again).

https://youtu.be/mVM8FPPKsPA

Including an outtake. Having looked briefly at the example video I worked backwards from the notation. The 'rhythm' was informed by working on a guitar 'sketch' of the tune (which I thought to include but decided that might be off-topic!)

I was interested that the same melodeon could sound so different in the two examples. 1) audio from a Zoom H4 2) recorded on a Zoom Q3 (with a wind shield), in different rooms. Microphone placement was similar in each case.  Not intending to raise off topic discussion, just an observation.

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thoon on January 01, 2019, 05:21:50 PM
Error of topic!  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on January 01, 2019, 09:56:12 PM
ABC and dots in Emaj and Dmaj at the Session website:
https://thesession.org/tunes/8853
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 02, 2019, 03:07:08 PM
Immediately went to listen to Mel's melodeon version, which I enjoyed, which has a lovely lilt to it. For comparison then clicked on Annlaug's.
Something very nice about watching and listening to a composer play their tune. Very enjoyable.
In fact both versions very enjoyable....
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Mcgrooger on January 02, 2019, 05:07:47 PM
Here's mine. Inderectly learnt from Sam and Elaine Bracken via Hugh Taylor of this parish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi5jXPGuNDk
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Ellisteph on January 02, 2019, 11:02:01 PM
Here's mine. Inderectly learnt from Sam and Elaine Bracken via Hugh Taylor of this parish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi5jXPGuNDk
Very smooth and fluent playing. Quick too - I've only got as far as printing out the dots.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Mcgrooger on January 03, 2019, 08:48:54 AM
Not that quick - I've been playing it for a while.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 06, 2019, 01:01:37 PM
The abc that Pete gave during the vote gives a formula of (AB)2.CB.AB.CB, which reflects the video of Annlaug playing and I think is the same as given in the notation from Clive at the top of this thread.
As I understand it, every part is doubled i.e. ( A2,B2 ) twice, C2B2, A2B2, C2B2 to end.

This is the first time I've encountered the tune, though apparently it's done the rounds on the festival circuit sessions and become popular according to another video I've seen from Mel.
Therefore, in sessions is it played as per the formula above, or has it been subjected to the normal session etiquette of A2 B2 C2?
I am enjoying this tune immensely and want to learn it in a form that I'd encounter in a session.
Anyone?
cheers
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Helena Handcart on January 06, 2019, 01:38:43 PM
This is the first time I've encountered the tune, though apparently it's done the rounds on the festival circuit sessions and become popular according to another video I've seen from Mel.
Therefore, in sessions is it played as per the formula above, or has it been subjected to the normal session etiquette of A2 B2 C2?
I am enjoying this tune immensely and want to learn it in a form that I'd encounter in a session.

D'you know Q, despite spending an unreasonable amount of time at folk festivals I don't think I'd ever heard it either - certainly not enough to have remembered it, let alone know what it is called.  However I would imagine it will inevitably end up being played as  2As, 2Bs, 2Cs - probably three time through in the time-honoured manner. 

I'd also be interested to know though. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 06, 2019, 03:49:05 PM
For various reasons I didn't make many festivals last year, so have no idea.
I bumped into the tune first on a fleeting recent fb visit ( they're always fleeting for me! ) and it was Mel playing, and I got the impression from a comment that it was doing the rounds. That said, I'm always amazed at how regional tunes are so it could be 'well used' but not where you were!
It's intriguing listening to Annlaug play and it all seems to fit nicely, and versions so far follow the composer's route.
Just wonder how the festival crowd play it - if they play it!
cheers
Q

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Hugh Taylor on January 07, 2019, 10:35:17 AM
This is the first time I've encountered the tune, though apparently it's done the rounds on the festival circuit sessions and become popular according to another video I've seen from Mel.
Therefore, in sessions is it played as per the formula above, or has it been subjected to the normal session etiquette of A2 B2 C2?
I am enjoying this tune immensely and want to learn it in a form that I'd encounter in a session.


I haven't heard it played at Sidmouth or Whitby, but we play it at our monthly session in Kendal (as McGrooger noted above).
We play it as written - AB ABC B ABC B, doubled up as noted by Thrupenny Bit. Seems complicated at first, but natural once you get into it.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 07, 2019, 12:39:52 PM
We play it as written - AB ABC B ABC B, doubled up as noted by Thrupenny Bit. Seems complicated at first, but natural once you get into it.

At least for me it gets way less complicated to comprehend once I've rearranged the parts to look like this:
Code: [Select]
AB AB CB AB CBI think of it like this: The A part is the "verse", the B part is the "refrain", and the C part is the "bridge".
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 07, 2019, 04:47:15 PM
Thanks Hugh and Fred.
I'm sure it gets easier as you get into it so thank you for your observations.
It's a surprisingly addictive tune for me, so just want to learn it in a way that it's played, and so will need to get my head around tht formula!
cheers
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 08, 2019, 08:35:20 PM
This is a tune that makes me play in a different style. Listening to the two given versions confirmed the speed and lilt I need to aim for. My DG box doesn't really sound great with just the left hand chords playing sustained, so I'm trying a few different ways, including no left hand at all. Absolutely out of my comfort zone too. But good to be playing again.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Nigel on January 08, 2019, 10:12:52 PM
But good to be playing again.
Yes Pete, it's good to hear this. Sorry as I may have not included you but next NE Melodeon Group session is this Thursday!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 08, 2019, 10:31:47 PM
My DG box doesn't really sound great with just the left hand chords playing sustained, so I'm trying a few different ways, including no left hand at all.

Interesting to read this. I also struggle with the left hand on this tune. Right hand is doing fine as far as I can tell but I'm currently unsure how exactly to accompany the melody.
I'm really hoping to see a few more submissions in the next few days as I'm hoping to get some inspiration for the bass side from you lovely lot. (:)

Edit:
I've just discovered an interesting version of the tune on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj1GiuPZH0
The Lounge Bar starts around 1:58.
Not with a melodeon but with Nyckelharpa and Cittern. Very soothing to listen to.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on January 08, 2019, 11:13:25 PM

Edit:
I've just discovered an interesting version of the tune on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj1GiuPZH0
The Lounge Bar starts around 1:58.
Not with a melodeon but with Nyckelharpa and Cittern. Very soothing to listen to.
7

Now, I do like that. I might have go after all. Just have to get my friend Ed interested, with his hurdy gurdy.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 09, 2019, 12:19:52 AM

Edit:
I've just discovered an interesting version of the tune on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj1GiuPZH0
The Lounge Bar starts around 1:58.
Not with a melodeon but with Nyckelharpa and Cittern. Very soothing to listen to.
Well found that's lovely.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 09, 2019, 08:26:34 AM
In my opinion, not all tunes seem to travel well between instruments.
This does! Thanks for finding it. Another lovely rendition
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 11, 2019, 11:15:17 PM
But good to be playing again.
Yes Pete, it's good to hear this. Sorry as I may have not included you but next NE Melodeon Group session is this Thursday!
Sorry Nigel, missed this. Difficult for me to get there with being a taxi service for my daughter every Thursday evening.
On the subject of chords for Lounge Bar - my DG box B5 chord is a noticeably higher voicing than other chords. Is this common? I think the piece would sound better on my box (old Sander model) if the B in the chord was below the F#. (When the 3rds are in the D# is the lowest note). Is that possible / sensible to change? I don't think the B is used for any other chord.

What are others trying for left hand for this tune (not in terms of harmonies, but rhythm and texture)?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 12, 2019, 07:05:29 AM
... my DG box B5 chord is a noticeably higher voicing than other chords. Is this common? I think the piece would sound better on my box (old Sander model) if the B in the chord was below the F#. (When the 3rds are in the D# is the lowest note). Is that possible / sensible to change? I don't think the B is used for any other chord.
I've forgotten what make your D/G box is, but it's true that the voicing (inversions) of the chords can vary from one maker to another.
In my opinion Castgnari have the voicing exactly right, so that no one particular note in the chord sounds too high or too low.

In the B major chord, Castagnari always have it voiced in root position. But other makers (e.g. Dino Baffetti as I recall) have the chord in 1st inversion which puts the B as the highest note in the chord, which makes it a bit too strident for my liking.

I'll attach a generic chord voicing chart for Castagnari D/G melodeons which is applicable for both 8 and 12 button left hand layouts.
Several years go I made a rather scruffy comparison chart of chord voicing for several other makes. I'll try to find it, tidy it up and post it on the forum.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 12, 2019, 11:16:07 AM
Several years go I made a rather scruffy comparison chart of chord voicing for several other makes. I'll try to find it, tidy it up and post it on the forum.

Now posted here:
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,23350.0.html
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 12, 2019, 11:32:24 AM
Thanks, Steve.
My box is an older Castagnari Sander, and the B chord is in first inversion, not in root position. Are there any issues with getting that changed? (size of reed chamber etc.).
So, what are people trying with this piece as far as left hand goes?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 12, 2019, 02:52:11 PM
My box is an older Castagnari Sander, and the B chord is in first inversion, not in root position. Are there any issues with getting that changed? (size of reed chamber etc.).

It should be possible, but you would need the B tonic reed an octave lower than at present. In turn that would mean a longer reed tongue, although not necessarily a longer reed plate. The other point to consider is what note the paired pull reed plays - it will be part of the E minor chord, so you would need to determine what it is for your instrument and either order a replacement reed plate accordingly, or ask one of the fettlers to add a weight to the B tonic reed tongue to drop it down the octave. I would think Theo would be able to advise you on this.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Clive Williams on January 12, 2019, 04:09:31 PM
So, what are people trying with this piece as far as left hand goes?

I'm just getting ready to post my version, so while Windows Movie Maker loads the video file, I've got plenty of time to answer! I think it's a fairly straightforward (to my ear anyway) thing in Bm, with Bm / A / G chord runs and the occasional D thrown in. I don't think I've put in any fancier chords than that. Looking at Annlaug's video, I think it may be being played on the inner row of an A/D; it makes sense on the inner row of a D/G too, but comes out in Em of course, with Em / D / C and G being the prominent chords.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 12, 2019, 04:47:11 PM
That's helpful Clive. I wasn't actually asking about chord choice, but style of left hand. However, the inner row thing might make sense. I'll try it.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 12, 2019, 05:04:11 PM
Right, that only took a minute to feel familiar, and to sound better. But then I spend my melodeon life playing in that key (= A minor on a GC box). Not the same challenge. I might stick to the challenge of playing it (without a low B) in B minor on the DG just for the heck. The other problem for me in the right key on  DG is air management, which I've just found out is no problem in Em. Interesting.
Also, therefore went back to Mel's version, and found out that her B5 chord is with the F# on top, unlike mine which has the B on top. Which (apart from her skill of course) is why I'm finding that method less fulfilling for me.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Clive Williams on January 12, 2019, 05:37:32 PM
Here's my version; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJNliS8dY2s - it's in D on a D/G Castagnari Giasco. It's a nice tune - think I'll keep it in the repertoire :-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Ellisteph on January 17, 2019, 12:05:07 PM
Here's my go at this one. I enjoyed learning it; found the trickiest bit following the C part with the B part. Once you've cracked that, I find it all falls into place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0S0Zk_Tig
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Spikey on January 20, 2019, 02:24:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK0aSoRzRAE

Been learning TotMs quite a lot lately and not getting up the gumption to record and post ::)

But so enjoyed learning this while playing along with Mel on her video that feel I owe it to Mel to actually take part.  I wonder how many other people round the world have been doing the same - spending their evenings scrutinising Mel's recording and then feeling elated when they can manage to play along?

And, as we all know, when recording it came out nothing like I had practised... but the mistakes are all my own - see Mel's version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIBk6enOQE) for how it was meant to sound :|||:

Thank you Mel (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Ellisteph on January 20, 2019, 11:26:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK0aSoRzRAE

Been learning TotMs quite a lot lately and not getting up the gumption to record and post ::)

But so enjoyed learning this while playing along with Mel on her video that feel I owe it to Mel to actually take part.  I wonder how many other people round the world have been doing the same - spending their evenings scrutinising Mel's recording and then feeling elated when they can manage to play along?

And, as we all know, when recording it came out nothing like I had practised... but the mistakes are all my own - see Mel's version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIBk6enOQE) for how it was meant to sound :|||:

Thank you Mel (:)
Well done! Looking forward to more videos now you've taken the plunge.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 20, 2019, 10:06:31 PM
Good stuff, Spikey. I too have been learning tunes, but not uploading due to lack of satisfaction in my playing. Might well record this one, but only right hand as i can't find a good way of playing the chords, or at least a way that adds anything worthwhile.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 21, 2019, 02:16:53 PM
I like the song, especially its melody. The left hand, however, is very complicated to get right and so I opted for a very simple bass approach. Often enough I find myself trying out new or unusual rhythmic patterns for the left hand, sometimes bouncy, sometimes soft. After a few rounds I normally resort to what I've done in this recording. Oh well, maybe some day the perfect left hand accompaniment will appear.

https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/the-lounge-bar-take-2

As always, a few mistakes here and there but it's a decent recording of where I stand currently regarding this tune. Feedback appreciated.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: TomB on January 21, 2019, 08:53:22 PM
Here's my version; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJNliS8dY2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJNliS8dY2s) - it's in D on a D/G Castagnari Giasco. It's a nice tune - think I'll keep it in the repertoire :-)


That's nice and lovely sounding box. The chord sequence here reminiscent of the "Lord of the Rings".
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 21, 2019, 10:54:32 PM
https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/the-lounge-bar-take-2

As always, a few mistakes here and there but it's a decent recording of where I stand currently regarding this tune. Feedback appreciated.
Feedback. Well done sounds lovely. Only comment is that I like videos above soundcloud and I always watch videos all the way through for some reason.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 21, 2019, 11:33:26 PM
https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/the-lounge-bar-take-2

As always, a few mistakes here and there but it's a decent recording of where I stand currently regarding this tune. Feedback appreciated.
Feedback. Well done sounds lovely. Only comment is that I like videos above soundcloud and I always watch videos all the way through for some reason.

Thank you, p&t, much appreciated. (:)

I've heard that remark quite a few times already and if I'm not mistaken more often from you than from anybody else. My answer is the same as always: I don't have a webcam for my PC and I too much (!) prefer decent audio quality to use anything else than my trusty microphone setup. One day, I'll get a webcam. Not today though. ;-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Saul Bailey on January 22, 2019, 02:09:53 PM
Cutting it fine, but here we are  :D

https://youtu.be/9VAJ34qyQ7c
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Theo on January 22, 2019, 02:14:37 PM
Well worth waiting for!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 22, 2019, 02:50:58 PM
'zackly, that's lovely Saul!
A lovely warm bass..... Yep, lovely stuff.
Q

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Winston Smith on January 23, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
"Nothing wrong with a bit of editing."

Sorry, but naaaah! With some clever editing, even my playing could sound good! It's cheating!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Roland Carson on January 23, 2019, 04:21:59 PM
Hi,
Some really nice versions of this tune here which I am really enjoying. Saul, your playing is superb.
I, too have heard this tune and watched Annlaug Börsheim + Rannveig Djönne playing it.
My observation is that it is in D or Bm (not being a musician I don't know how to tell  ;D ) and I think that Rannveig is playing an accordeon in A/D.
If we follow her fingering pattern on a D/G we would play in G or Em and on a G/C we would play in C or Am.
I just wonder why everyone is playing it in D or Bm on (dare I say) the wrong box?
I know it's possible but just more difficult especially as I think we must have an accordeon with low notes.
Roland

PLEASE NOTE:-  This is only an idle observation and it is not my intention to open a can of worms.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Jackhumphreys on January 23, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
https://youtu.be/_XhC8bDihM0

It's hard to follow Saul's definitive interpretation, which seems to me to retain the spirit of the original, as adapted to solo box.

I'm wondering what dance this is used for in Norway. Does anyone know?...the 6/8 makes it a jig, but they play it rather slow for a jig, don't they?  (M=95, whereas we would play a  Chapelloise at about M=120, and don't Irish jigs go even faster)?    So  a typical jig backing didn't appeal to me.

I did try to play this in (DG-speak)  B minor/ D major fingering, but the B chord sounded wrong (same as P&T's).
Then I found that it was a lot easier to play in Eminor/ Gmajor fingering (coming out Dm & F major on my CF box). 
My plan was to use smooth sustained chords to allow the tune to carry all the rhythm, then to reduce the number of chord changes, so that the chord which fits one bar is carried over to the next bar, even when the melody would usually call for a different chord.
However, in the B music I did allow more chord changes for the major feel.
Using few chord changes meant that most of the tune is played on the pull, which required learning some tricky fingering.
And I learned a new fingering technique of sliding a finger from one button to another, when otherwise there wouldn't be enough fingers for the arpeggio just before the B music.
It was meant to sound tranquil, but after many mistakes and several takes, a bit of irritation  arose
I enjoyed learning the tune. Thanks to whoever suggested it.


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Jackhumphreys on January 23, 2019, 05:12:29 PM
Just seen your post Roland.  We think alike!  It's readily playable in Em/G fingering (DG-speak)  It's there in the previously posted ABC, labelled key of G.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Clive Williams on January 23, 2019, 09:27:33 PM
[[[ ADMIN: Topic duly split into a separate chat thread. I've been thinking about how to handle discussions like this, and I certainly don't want to stop them. So what I think we'll do is keep doing (reasonably relevant) chat about TOTM in the main thread, but once it runs its course move the non-tune stuff off into the chat thread. ]]]
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Roland Carson on January 24, 2019, 10:22:07 AM
 I made this video quickly this morning specially for Melnet.
 I think I am using the same fingering pattern as  Rannveig Djönne is using on their video and I am playing my Evo G/C.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksalIkaO9aY&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Roland Carson on January 24, 2019, 02:23:43 PM
Thanks Jack and yes, of course it will work as a jig for e.g. chapelloise, even if that's not the intention of the composer.
You lost me with the bass line as I actually don't know what I did without analysing it  :D I just pushed the button which felt ok  ;D
Anyway, I really like this tune !
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: playandteach on January 24, 2019, 06:24:30 PM
Lots of great sounding versions and boxes here. I didn't want to go back to playing it in Em as that is the finger patterns that I'm most used to and I wanted to try something else. Jack, I think you've made huge progress - great stuff. I seem to remember that you said early on that you found it hard to stay in time (trying to remember your comment, rather than me thinking of your playing - I might have mis-remembered, or confused you with someone else), well there's certainly no trace of that here.
Bravo all so far.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Mcgrooger on January 25, 2019, 11:02:54 AM
"I just wonder why everyone is playing it in D or Bm on (dare I say) the wrong box?"
It's coz that's the box I've got. I wanted to play it in the same key as the original and I don't have a G/C box. Sounds a bit Eric Morecambe but I'm playing it in the right key even if it is on the wrong box.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Sebastian on January 25, 2019, 02:11:31 PM
I just wonder why everyone is playing it in D or Bm on (dare I say) the wrong box?
I'm tempted to say, because they know enough musical theory to read the notes, but not enough to understand them. >:E

But I know that there are many participants here, who do in fact understand the music but maybe see it as a challenge of virtuosity to play their box in a key it wasn't build for. :|||: 8)

In general, it is (nowadays) pointless to adhere to an 'original' key, because all keys sound equal within themselves and it is irrelevant whether a tune is played some Hz higher or lower (or some bps faster or slower, or on the whistle or on the fiddle). :|glug :M :||:

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thoon on January 25, 2019, 03:25:25 PM
Even if I am sick :-[, here is a short recording of this beautiful tune. No editing, marvelous sound and picture of my phone! ;D. I will perhaps try again with better conditions and health...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PzXcQ0aOysA
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 25, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
Get well soon Thoon, can't wait for the full version!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 25, 2019, 03:37:00 PM
Even if I am sick :-[, here is a short recording of this beautiful tune. No editing, marvelous sound and picture of my phone! ;D. I will perhaps try again with better conditions and health...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PzXcQ0aOysA

Hope the sickness' embrace will soon loosen its grip on you and you'll get well sooner than later. Nice playing indeed!

Having said that: Shame on whoever filmed! A phone can and should be held horizontally when filming. :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Dick Rees on January 25, 2019, 05:23:12 PM
Even if I am sick :-[, here is a short recording of this beautiful tune. No editing, marvelous sound and picture of my phone! ;D. I will perhaps try again with better conditions and health...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PzXcQ0aOysA

All right!  What it is!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 26, 2019, 10:21:46 AM
OK, here it is from me.
https://soundcloud.com/thrupenny-bit/the-lounge-bar

A little nervously to start with, I think this will stay with me so hopefully improve as it mulches in!
Still concentrating on which part comes next...…. but I love the way the B parts come in throughout the tune.
It's a lovely tune. Really lovely.
cheers
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Ransom on January 27, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
Well that's been a trip, hasn't it.
Mine comes out something like this:
https://youtu.be/pZRkGC0O6Hk
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 27, 2019, 09:53:58 PM
Q, love it to bits!
Ransom, that's just lovely. An object lesson in sensitive playing.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Chris Thomas on January 29, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
This is my first ever go at this. The bass has come out rather dominant in the recording:

https://youtu.be/2yfNl3s8QCI

I kept it nice and short... (:)

Chris
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 29, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
Ah so many things to comment..

This is my first ever go at this.

And you did very well even on video! While the playing overall was great (especially your right hand), I think you could maybe reconsider your choice of chords and basses in part A. Your little variation of part B is cool and your part C sounded flawless to me. Thanks for sharing.

I think I am using the same fingering pattern as  Rannveig Djönne is using on their video and I am playing my Evo G/C.

I feel that this song sounds extremely good on a G/C - such a soft and mellow tone you produced. Not much to suggest here in terms of improvements as I think it's already pretty near to perfect.

OK, here it is from me.
[...]
It's a lovely tune. Really lovely.

It's only as lovely as you make it and you definitely nailed it with a bit of an upbeat feeling to it.
However, I'd like to add a short remark about the recording quality itself: The mic/equalizers/etc seem good enough to me but changing your recording environment might drastically improve the quality of your clips even more. This one sounds like it's been recorded in a bathroom or hallway. Maybe try recording in a smaller room with some cloth here and there (curtains, sofa, etc) or sitting in a corner of a room so that the audio of your box will be directly reflected into the room. (Not trying to start a discussion about recording quality again. Just want to suggest some way to improve it.)

@everyone: So many awesome recordings of this tune. Thank you all for posting these.
Best wishes, Fred

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 29, 2019, 03:57:02 PM
Hi Fred,
Thanks for our comments.
Yes, I recorded it in our conservatory, where I normally practice. My original recordings were considerably worse as I used to sit in front of the recorder so it picked up everything going on inside the mechanism. Now I point it away from me and play at a right angle to it. That has made a big improvement.
With my hearing I have lost my top frequencies, so it makes sense that what sounds ok to me sounds ipovly bright to others,
Thanks for the thoughts, I will try other more furnished rooms and see how it all sounds.
Cheers
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Sebastian on January 29, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
Hm. I tried to play it: https://youtu.be/8nvVlLZzWgM  ???

Not impressed. The tune is nice (and can sound enchanting on the melodeon as was demonstrated in this thread). But I'm surprised how wishy-washy my playing came out this time.  :o

I should definitely have spent more time with the tune. But, alas!, the month’s end is near.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Dick Rees on January 29, 2019, 08:08:54 PM
True to the composers roots, Norwegian 6/8 shades towards 2/4 in that the dance steps associated with the tunes are classified as marches or "walking" tunes.  Besides the composers performance with diatonic box, Swedish duo HezeliusHedin offer up another nice version of the tune played on nyckelharpa and cittern:

https://youtu.be/WLj1GiuPZH0

Currently enjoying playing the tune indoors while the daytime temperature outside is -21 Fahrenheit with a 30 mph wind and a wind-chill factor of 50 below...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Fred on January 29, 2019, 11:13:44 PM
I've just discovered an interesting version of the tune on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLj1GiuPZH0
The Lounge Bar starts around 1:58.
Not with a melodeon but with Nyckelharpa and Cittern. Very soothing to listen to.

Besides the composers performance with diatonic box, Swedish duo HezeliusHedin offer up another nice version of the tune played on nyckelharpa and cittern:

https://youtu.be/WLj1GiuPZH0

I can confirm that this is the case.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thoon on January 30, 2019, 09:05:05 AM
Full version with better tools and health!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HNAfz7w6Oko
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 30, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
Thoon, a lovely rendition, and a great sounding box!
Q
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thoon on January 30, 2019, 08:26:25 PM
Thanks Q. But I was told that I forget C# to D in the « B » part and it is right! I do not play also the right « C » part! I will try to listen more carefully next time!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on January 30, 2019, 09:17:12 PM
Well, I never noticed, I was enjoying your playing and the sound of that box.
Just never noticed ......!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Eshed on January 30, 2019, 10:13:17 PM
Thanks Q. But I was told that I forget C# to D in the « B » part and it is right! I do not play also the right « C » part! I will try to listen more carefully next time!
Glad to hear you're back on your feet. Don't worry though, it's folk music, variations are part of the fun :)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 30, 2019, 10:58:44 PM
Full version with better tools and health!

Magical, lovely to hear, pleased you are recovered from the winter miseries. I heard no missed notes in your playing but then again when I sit at the feet of a master . . .
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Roland Carson on February 01, 2019, 01:08:36 PM
Quote
I feel that this song sounds extremely good on a G/C - such a soft and mellow tone you produced. Not much to suggest here in terms of improvements as I think it's already pretty near to perfect.

Thanks for your comment Fred.
Thoon, I think your version is great (only a little fast for my preference) but I really like your playing and also the bass line on your video.  Thank you.
I have really enjoyed listening to all the videos of this tune.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2019: The Lounge Bar
Post by: Clive Williams on February 01, 2019, 02:17:23 PM
Thanks all - on to the next tune! Late contribs welcome on the end here as ever.