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Title: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Clive Williams on March 24, 2019, 09:05:48 AM
Hi all - this month's selection!

Dorset 4 Hand Reel - here's a session standard we haven't done yet; ABC and video courtesy of Lester, here: https://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.com/2012/10/tune-33-dorset-four-hand-reel-i-i-can.html

Guide Me O Great Redeemer - classic hymn, here played by Pikey under the name 'Guide Me O Great Jehovah' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcju7Zp6qE

The Fighting Temeraire - written by Sandy Shallis; here's a video of it being played by Sandy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcC4H5jvv8o

Harry Kitchener's Jig - written by Paul Sartin, and here played by his group Faustus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOy26yZZYNo ; couldn't find any melodeon closeups of this one. Anyone got one?

Thanks Paedar and McGrooger for the great suggestions!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 25, 2019, 12:37:40 PM
I'd be most grateful for an abc transcription of the melody for Harry Kitchener's. I have the Faustus album with it on but lack the ability to transcribe tunes and I find this a tricky one to get by playing along.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Fred on March 25, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Oh I do hope as well that someone has the abc buried in their collections and is willing to dig it out for us.
(I still remember having to transcribe Vrangfanten myself... What a pita that was. (:) )
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peadar on March 25, 2019, 01:11:30 PM
I had forgotten but Cwm Rhonndha is the name of the tune to "Guide me O thou Great Redeemer"  and the Hymn itself was originally written in Welsh.
There is ABC and dots on Folk Tune finder (search for Cwm Rhonndha).
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Anahata on March 25, 2019, 01:51:39 PM
I'd be most grateful for an abc transcription of the melody for Harry Kitchener's. I have the Faustus album with it on but lack the ability to transcribe tunes and I find this a tricky one to get by playing along.

I've just done this from the YouTube Faustus Video. Since I voted for the tune...

X:0
T:Harry Kitchener's Jig
C:Paul Sartin
Z:Anahata (anahata@treewind.co.uk) from Youtube Video of Faustus
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Em
E3F3| G2AG2F EFG|F2B,B,2B,|E3F3|G2AG2F:|E3|
D2G GFG|A2FG3|D2B BAB|c2AB2AB2c|d2dB2G|e3e2f|g2g gfe|e3d3|
D2G GFG|A2FG3|D2B BAB|c2AB2c|d2dB2G|e3e2f|g2g gfe|e3d3|
|:"C"g3gfe|"Bm"f3B3|"Am"e3 edc|"G"d3G3|"F"c3cBA|\
"Em"B3E3|1g3f2e def:|2c3-c2c|B2GA2GF2G|]

Obviously I've had to make a guess where to put the bar lines where it occasionally deviates from regular 6/8.
I chose a bar of 3/8 between the A and B music, but it could instead have been a 6/8 1st time bar and 9/8 2nd time bar.
Elsewhere I've made a 9/8 bar where it seemed to make sense to me.

Also I put in the chords they are playing in the last section; the chords for the rest of it are fairly obvious/I couldn't be bothered  :|glug
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Anahata on March 25, 2019, 01:55:58 PM
PS they play two tunes on that video: I hope Harry Kitchener's was the first, not the second...
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 25, 2019, 05:16:57 PM
Thank you Anahata. I'm pretty sure it is the first tune on the vid. I think the album is on Spotify too. I wasn't sure that there was a change in time signature but had a feeling there was. I'll have to give it a proper go now. Thanks again.  (:)
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: playandteach on March 28, 2019, 08:58:31 PM
Do the dots for Fighting Temeraire exist anywhere?
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Dick Rees on March 28, 2019, 10:32:02 PM
Do the dots for Fighting Temeraire exist anywhere?

On some dot com...

Edit:  Proper time.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Mark Leue on March 29, 2019, 12:47:14 AM
I love the way the Fighting Temeraire is harmonized.  I have little problem picking out the basic melody, but finding the harmony notes and chords will be an interesting challenge for me. Cool tune
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peter Savage on March 29, 2019, 06:46:29 AM
PS they play two tunes on that video: I hope Harry Kitchener's was the first, not the second...
Second is definitely The Piper's Rehash written by Benji Kirkpatrick: https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/tracks/n4c6jd
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: playandteach on March 29, 2019, 10:58:16 AM
Thanks, Dick.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: playandteach on March 29, 2019, 06:45:17 PM
Does anyone else drift into Pride of Petravore while playing the Fighting Temeraire? The A sections seem to fit over each other well.
As a novice to folk, does that make them a good pair to play together or a terrible pair?
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peter Savage on March 29, 2019, 07:43:38 PM
Does anyone else drift into Pride of Petravore while playing the Fighting Temeraire? The A sections seem to fit over each other well.
As a novice to folk, does that make them a good pair to play together or a terrible pair?
June Tabor's "Go Enlist" is where I head off to when hearing this.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Dick Rees on March 29, 2019, 08:06:27 PM
Does anyone else drift into Pride of Petravore while playing the Fighting Temeraire? The A sections seem to fit over each other well.
As a novice to folk, does that make them a good pair to play together or a terrible pair?
June Tabor's "Go Enlist" is where I head off to when hearing this.

S&G's "Sound of Silence" makes for an interesting mate.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peadar on March 29, 2019, 11:45:37 PM
With the votes currently at 17, 16, 15, 14 the poll is starting to look like Brexit minus the consequences.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Fred on March 30, 2019, 01:37:42 AM
With the votes currently at 17, 16, 15, 14 the poll is starting to look like Brexit minus the consequences.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. :D


Edit: Had to fix it to show 8 noes.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: playandteach on March 30, 2019, 09:25:30 PM
Who hasn't voted yet, but is open to bribes? Horribly close and I have a favourite. But then again, I guess, so do others.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Gary P Chapin on March 30, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
So very very close!
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Eshed on March 30, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
Theme of the Month: play a Tune of the Month runner-up
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: playandteach on March 31, 2019, 09:25:53 PM
If voting stops now, we've got 4 winners.
I'm staying up to see the count. Sunderland's always in first.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 31, 2019, 10:03:30 PM
Does voting really finish at 11.04, or is that yesterday's time?
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Nigel on March 31, 2019, 10:48:32 PM
Is it an indicative, meaningful or meaningless vote? 
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Clive Williams on March 31, 2019, 10:54:37 PM
You lot did this to me a few months back! I'm smarter this time round - I've already withdrawn my vote, so when it ends up in an inevitable 4-way tie, I simply cast my vote and break the tie. Nice try everyone! :-)

And yes, it ends at 11:04. The forum software is a bit rubbish in that it won't let me specify a time for a vote ending; only a date. If I want it to end at midnight, I have to set up the vote at midnight... so I go as close as I can, but don't worry too much about an hour or two either side.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Nigel on March 31, 2019, 10:58:19 PM
I'm putting 2 bob on Sandy Shallis.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Clive Williams on March 31, 2019, 10:58:50 PM
I couldn't possibly comment :-)
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peadar on March 31, 2019, 11:01:59 PM
Or go for a recount on 30th April? counting the number of versions posted of each tune (by different individuals)
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Peadar on March 31, 2019, 11:03:27 PM
This is getting like ebay.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Clive Williams on March 31, 2019, 11:06:11 PM
Oh, bravo! Who voted for Dorset 4 Hand reel in the split second I had the poll open to change my vote? That's my brilliant strategy shot down! Strategy 2 - reopen the poll and close it manually in the morning. Night night all; I'll close the poll about 9am.
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Winston Smith on March 31, 2019, 11:31:09 PM
Are you going to call that "The People's Vote" Clive?
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Julian S on April 01, 2019, 07:26:52 AM
Can we have an enquiry into possible vote manipulation by the Dorset Liberation Front ?

J
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Thrupenny Bit on April 01, 2019, 08:00:35 AM
I'm starting a petition...... obviously  >:E
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Clive Williams on April 01, 2019, 08:47:40 AM
Closed it 15 minutes early just in case of more .... shenanigans!
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Gena Crisman on April 01, 2019, 10:32:26 AM
Can we have an enquiry into possible vote manipulation by the Dorset Liberation Front ?

I'll have you know that Dorset has recently been liberated from itself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_structural_changes_to_local_government_in_England#Dorset), regardless of whatever the people were voting for (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-45141810)!!

I hope that, like our poor departed arbitrary very important council borders, that the other sections of this tune will not be so easily forgotten...
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Fred on April 01, 2019, 10:46:47 AM
Oof. That's definitely not the outcome I was hoping for. Contemplating on skipping this month's tune...
Title: Re: Poll: Tune of the Month for April 2019
Post by: Anahata on April 01, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
...but a perfect opportunity for theme of the month, to play the one you did vote for.
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