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Title: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on April 17, 2019, 11:41:30 PM
Three tunes played and then played slowly for learning by ear. And there are a few dirty little tricks with with chords etc...

Sussex Cotillion: https://youtu.be/SYDiBb8MFMo (https://youtu.be/SYDiBb8MFMo)

The Happy Farmer: https://youtu.be/AC7BDeULRws (https://youtu.be/AC7BDeULRws)

The link to the third, Leadley's Hornpipe, will be in a reply to this post.

Gavin
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on April 17, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
Leadley's Hornpipe: https://youtu.be/8ZKgIuX7EzA (https://youtu.be/8ZKgIuX7EzA)

Have fun, Gavin
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: Mark Leue on April 18, 2019, 02:27:59 AM
Those are lovely, thanks!  Where do these tunes come from and any idea how old they are?
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: Jesse Smith on April 18, 2019, 03:56:07 AM
Gavin, I know "The Happy Farmer" as a variation of "The Happy Clown". Is it just an alternate title?

Mark, "The Happy Clown" goes back to at least 1740; I have it in a collection called "The Compleat Country Dancing Master" by John Walsh, which was kind of a successor to Playford's "Dancing Master".
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: Roger Hare on April 18, 2019, 06:40:01 AM
..."The Happy Clown" goes back to at least 1740; I have it in a collection called
"The Compleat Country Dancing Master" by John Walsh...
...which you'll find in ABC format on Chris Partington's page(s) at:
http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Walsh/Walsh%20Info.html (http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Walsh/Walsh%20Info.html)
It's the first of the four 'ABC' links...

There are scans of some of Walsh's other publications (ie: not including "The...Master")
in the Inglis and Glen collections on the National Library of Scotland web site at:
https://digital.nls.uk/special-collections-of-printed-music/archive/97135480 (https://digital.nls.uk/special-collections-of-printed-music/archive/97135480)



Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on April 18, 2019, 08:56:01 AM
I'd no idea about the sources for The Happy Farmer - and had completely forgotten that it is also titled The Happy Clown.

I do remember first learning it when I was playing for the Kingsmen Sword Dancers' rapper in the 1970s as The Happy Farmer. It's one of those jigs that are equally happy being used as a gallopy jig and as the marchy kind of jig that rapper requires.

The Sussex Cotillion is from a manuscript found in the records office in Chichester, according to Lester https://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.com/2012/09/tune-6-sussex-cottilion-from-manuscript.html (https://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.com/2012/09/tune-6-sussex-cottilion-from-manuscript.html). I'm sure he's right as I recall someone telling me this going back many decades.

The tune often called Leadley's Untitled Hornpipe or just Leadley's Hornpipe (and which the lovely band Phoenix called Gavin Atkin's Favourite !blushhhh!) is one an untitled tune in the Leadley manuscript, which was published by Dragonfly some years ago. That's where I picked it up.

More recently it was transcribed by the excellent Peter Dunk, Ruairidh Greig, Mike Hicken, & Steve Mansfield for the Village Music Project http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Leadley/Leadley%20Info.html

Gavin
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 19, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
More recently it was transcribed by the excellent Chris Partington for the Village Music Project http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Leadley/Leadley%20Info.html (http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Leadley/Leadley%20Info.html)

Gavin

Oi! (  ;) ) as it says on the page the transcription for The Village Music Project was by Peter Dunk, Ruairidh Greig, Mike Hicken, & Steve Mansfield.  ::)
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on April 22, 2019, 09:39:03 AM
Now I'm suprised Pete, and sorry to cause any offence!

Corrected now.

I recall it coming up on Chris's website, and so I thought he'd transcribed it. Silly me. Here's the evidence: http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Leadley/Leadley%20Info.html (http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Leadley/Leadley%20Info.html)

I've known the tune ever since I found it in the Fiddler of Helperby book a good long time ago. It's a little cracker...

Gavin

Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 02, 2019, 11:20:51 AM
No offence at all Gav, just jerking your chain!  ;D
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on May 09, 2019, 12:43:21 AM
It's jerked. ;-)
Title: Re: Tunes from Horsmonden: Sussex Cotillion, Leadley's Hornpipe, Happy Farmer
Post by: gmatkin on May 09, 2019, 12:44:32 AM
It's also best to be right, even if I do need a little help from my friends from time to time.

G
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