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Discussions => Tunes => Topic started by: Pete Dunk on September 29, 2019, 09:37:21 AM
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Earlier this year a musician friend of mine became involved with a social dance group who have a broad ranging repertoire of 'traditional' dances, mainly from Europe. The music is a hotch potch of low quality scans of both printed and hand written sheet music, much of which is hard to read on the fly at dancing speed. I agreed to have a go at transcribing the music, but then along came two Village Music Project transcriptions of massive proportions (Buttrey and Roose) and the international music was pushed to one side for quite a long time.
I completed the first batch of 55 tunes yesterday and the abc file contains url's to Youtube videos of quite a few of the dances. Almost all of the music is new to me and I think many of the tunes are pretty good, some very good. Here's a link to a PDF of the tunes (https://app.box.com/s/600p64mmfir4adtyqk2d2a68vf0qr0tt) (too big to attach), and an ABC file is attached. There are bound to be mistakes so if you spot anything weird let me know and I'll check the original scan. I have however corrected some glaring errors and had to make imaginative leaps when the source was illegible. Chords are 'as written', as are the keys, please ask if you would like a tune transcribed to another key.
Sadly my friend seems to have moved on from the group so I'm unlikely to get access to the remainder of the "hundreds of tunes" in the collection. ::)
***EDIT - abc file now updated.
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Earlier this year a musician friend of mine became involved with a social dance group who have a broad ranging repertoire
of 'traditional' dances, mainly from Europe....Sadly my friend seems to have moved on from the group so I'm unlikely to get
access to the remainder of the "hundreds of tunes" in the collection. ::)
I just listened to the first few bars of each tune via EasyABC. Splendid! Thank you for posting these.
I particularly liked the Serbian tunes, and I can't remember having seen a Portuguese tune before.
Who are the group then? Maybe someone can track 'em down and extract the remainder of their
repertoire?
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As it happens, I was looking at 'Die Woaf' t'other day, and am trying to 'set' it with 'Tip Top Polka'
(a.k.a. the Bacup 'Nutters' tune...). I think they go together quite well...
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Good job.
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These look like fun.
I will have a delve later.
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Thank you - there's lots of good tunes there.
Didn't recognise any except the Romanian Alunelul which I remember playing in lots of ceilidhs in the late '70s (an easy dance, until it starts speeding up)
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Who are the group then? Maybe someone can track 'em down and extract the remainder of their
repertoire?
They will be somewhere within striking distance of Ashford, Kent, if not in Ashford itself. Enquiries are underway . . .
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...Enquiries are underway . . .
Hooray! I made my specific suggestion because I recently came across a large collection
(of 2800+ tunes!) which contained a similarly wide-ranging selection of tunes - many of which
are really rather good. That collection is accessible via a web-site,(*) but (presumably) the one
PD has discovered isn't - and it probably 'should' be...
(*) www.rudemex.co.uk (http://www.rudemex.co.uk)
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I played the Doudlebska Polka for a Dutch dance earlier this year.
I gather it had a different name in Holland but I can't for the life of me remember what it was.
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...There are bound to be mistakes so if you spot anything weird let me know and I'll check the original scan...
Not absolutely sure, but I think that the A music of No. 48 (Oystericky) may be wrong.
I think the final 2 bars (1st play and 2nd play) may be under-full.
It looks like:
P:A
|:"C"G3c & E4|c/B/c/d/ e2 &G4|G3c & E4|c/B/c/d/ e2 &G4|\
"G"d2c2 &[GD]4|[BG]2 [AF]2 &D4|"C"G3 A &[EC]4|1[GEC]2z:|2[GEC] z G/A/B/c|
I think perhaps it should be:
P:A
|:"C"G3c & E4|c/B/c/d/ e2 &G4|G3c & E4|c/B/c/d/ e2 &G4|\
"G"d2c2 &[GD]4|[BG]2 [AF]2 &D4|"C"G3 A &[EC]4|1[GEC]2z2:|2[GEC] z G/A/B/c/|
^ ^
I have 'up-arrowed' the two extra characters I added. What do you think?
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Correct in both instances, I will alter my copy, ta!
abc in first post now updated but here it is again!
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My friend Mags, who is involved with the International Dance group has been back in touch and I went over to see her the other day. I spent a couple of hours showing her the basics of ABC Notation and she latched onto it quite quickly. The basics are, after all, pretty logical if you already read music to some extent. She currently has dots for around 250 tunes but the full collection held by the club is apparently very much larger.
Although she fancies a crack at doing some of the transcribing hersef she will be sending another batch to me shortly, and will have access to the entire collection in due course. I'm getting excited! :||:
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...Although she fancies a crack at doing some of the transcribing hersef she will be sending another batch to me shortly...
Good! More please - there are some great tunes in that first batch. If you want a hand transcribing
them (but you already know that)...
Which reminds me - in No. 8, there is a slow metronome marking for the first 8 bars of the A music,
and then a faster metronome marking for the second 8 bars. If one wants to have the first 8 bars
played back at the slower speed during the second play of the A music (and one does... 8) ), then it
is necessary to place the Q: field explicitly within the A music to get it to playback 'right', at least
using EasyABC it does:
X:8
T:Andulka
O:Czech
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:Ab
P:A
|: [Q:1/4=104] "Ab" EE C4 | "Eb7" EE D4 | E2 F2 G2 | "Ab" AA GF E2 | \
^^^^^^^^^^^
EE C4 | "Eb7" EE D4 | E2 F2 G2 | "Ab" A4 E2 |
%
Q:1/4=164
"^Faster " "Ab" CE =DE FE | "Eb7" D2 D2 B,2 | G2 G2 E2 | "Ab" A2 A2 E2 | \
"Ab" CE =DE FE | "Eb7" D2 D2 B,2 | G2 G2 E2 |1 "Ab" A4 E2 :|2 A4 B2 |]
P:B
"Eb" GB cB GB | "Bb7" cB AB =d2 | AB =dc BA | "Eb" GB cB e2 | \
GB cB GB | "Bb7" cB AB =d2 | AB =dc Bd | "Eb7" e2 e4 |]
I have 'up=arrowed' the relevant Q: field moved from the 'header; to the body of the
music. I think it's right...
Roger.
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Thanks for these - some great tunes in there, some familiar, others new to me. I'll enjoy playing through them, and eagerly look forward to more......
Graham
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My friend Mags, who is involved with the International Dance group has been back in touch...Although she fancies a crack at doing
some of the transcribing hersef she will be sending another batch to me shortly, and will have access to the entire collection in due
course. I'm getting excited! :||:
I'm prompted by the thread on 'British Country Dances' to revive this one. Any progress with the 'Collection of International Tunes'?
Ta.
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I managed to miss your post here Roger, sorry about that! The International Dance Group have sunk without trace since the lockdown, all meetings cancelled and emails to the secretary are returned as 'undeliverable' because the account no longer exists apparently. ???
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Brilliant
Thank You
like a breath of fresh air
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You are welcome Jon, I still live in hope of getting my hands on the other scans that my friend has but she has somehow mislaid the PDF and is trying to get another copy from the source musician. Patience is a virtue they say. ::)
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I managed to miss your post here Roger, sorry about that!...
No sweat. Pity - it looked like a very promising source of tunes.
Maybe they'll re-surface in the fullness of time...
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Here's a jolly tune, it may have been in the other collection I'm not sure. It's in 2 keys, the original in Gm and transposed to Bm for a D/G box although the chords will be a little problematic I fear.
X:1
T:Lamma Bada Yatathanna
O:Trad. Arabic
M:10/8
L:1/16
%%titlefont Helvetica 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica 16
%%composerfont Helvetica
%%partsfont Arial 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial 16
%%barnumbers 1
%%MIDI program 73 % flute
%%MIDI chordprog 1 % piano
%%MIDI gchord fzczfzczcz
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/8=120
K:Bb clef=treble
V:1
P:A
D2|:"Gm"G4 AB "Cm"cBBA "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4D2|G4 AB "Cm"cBBA "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4AB|
%
"Cm"c4d2 "Gm"B2>A2 "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4 AG|"D"^F4 GF "Cm"E2>D2 EDEF "D"D4ED|\
"Cm"C4D2 "Gm"B,2>A,2 "D"A,G,G,^F, G,4D2:|
%
P:B
"Gm"G4 AB "Cm"cBBA "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4 D2|G4 AB "Cm"cBBA "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4 B2|\
"Bb"B4B2 B4B2Ac B4B2|
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"D"d4c2 dcBA "Gm"BAGB "F"A4F2|"Gm"G4A2 "Bb"B4B2Ac B4AB|\
"Cm"c4d2 "Gm"B2>A2 "D"AGG^F "Gm"G4 AG|
%
"D"^F4 GF "Cm"E2>D2 EDEF "D"D4ED|"Cm"C4D2 "Gm"B,2>A,2 "D"A,G,G,^F, G,6|]
X:2
T:Lamma Bada Yatathanna (Bm)
O:Trad. Arabic
N:Transposed from Gm
M:10/8
L:1/16
%%titlefont Helvetica 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica 16
%%composerfont Helvetica
%%partsfont Arial 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial 16
%%barnumbers 1
%%MIDI program 73 % flute
%%MIDI chordprog 1 % piano
%%MIDI gchord fzczfzczcz
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/8=120
K:Bm
V:1
P:A
F2|:"Bm"B4 cd "Em"eddc "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4F2|B4 cd "Em"eddc "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4cd|
%
"Em"e4f2 "Bm"d2>c2 "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4 cB|"F#"^A4 BA "Em"G2>F2 GFGA "F#"F4GF|\
"Em"E4F2 "Bm"D2>C2 "F#"CB,B,^A, B,4F2:|
%
P:B
"Bm"B4 cd "Em"eddc "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4 F2|B4 cd "Em"eddc "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4 d2|\
"D"d4d2 d4d2ce d4d2|
%
"F#"f4e2 fedc "Bm"dcBd "A"c4A2|"Bm"B4c2 "D"d4d2ce d4cd|\
"Em"e4f2 "Bm"d2>c2 "F#"cBB^A "Bm"B4 cB|
%
"F#"^A4 BA "Em"G2>F2 GFGA "F#"F4GF|"Em"E4F2 "Bm"D2>C2 "F#"CB,B,^A, B,6|]
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Lamma Bada Yatathanna ;D oh that's jogged memories 🎶 thanks Pete ;D...... I think it was played at one of the Whitby Eurosessions years ago and I managed to master it, more or less, on the concertina. Must have a go at learning it on Melodeon :|||:
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I'm pleased you know the tune Ann, and that you obviously like it. I've given it a go on the English concertina as it's beyond my melodeon skills at the moment, it's quirky but great fun! ;D