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Title: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Clive Williams on February 01, 2020, 07:25:40 PM
Hi all, in a not entirely unpredictable followup to last month's theme, this time it's 'geographical features that can make you wet'. Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water is a rather more boring way of putting it, but clearly there's lots more possible things we can use to pick a suitable tune; oceans, ponds, streams, lochs, etc, etc, so please feel free to use anything like this!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Winston Smith on February 01, 2020, 08:59:33 PM
"On the banks of Allan Water" At least, as I remember it and play it.
It's dark here in Egypt and our roof terrace lighting isn't meant for filming, sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKLko2PVnk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKLko2PVnk&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: arty on February 01, 2020, 09:24:45 PM
"On the banks of Allan Water"

I really enjoyed that, thanks Winston!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 02, 2020, 05:35:42 PM
Here's a copy of a tune I'll be playing this month, with contrechant.
The Water is Wide. I've been listening to James Taylor singing it - irrelevant but nice. And this month's word is 'nice'.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Winston Smith on February 02, 2020, 06:14:50 PM
"The Water is Wide"

You've missed us playing that lately at the NE Group, Pete. I was contemplating playing it as another contribution to this thread, but it will be much better if you do, thanks.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Pete Dunk on February 02, 2020, 08:10:47 PM
Here's a copy of a tune I'll be playing this month, with contrechant.
The Water is Wide. I've been listening to James Taylor singing it - irrelevant but nice. And this month's word is 'nice'.

Very nice, I had a bit of fun with that (https://app.box.com/s/2rokt2mbfw7q7ngbwyey0u7yegnbtwtr)!  ;D
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 02, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
Here's a copy of a tune I'll be playing this month, with contrechant.
The Water is Wide. I've been listening to James Taylor singing it - irrelevant but nice. And this month's word is 'nice'.

Very nice, I had a bit of fun with that (https://app.box.com/s/2rokt2mbfw7q7ngbwyey0u7yegnbtwtr)!  ;D
Thanks for doing that. Be nice to play it with someone sometime.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Mcgrooger on February 07, 2020, 03:03:09 PM
Two related tunes from William Irwin, the 19th century Lakeland fiddler, named after the place he lived. They are the Elterwater Hornpipe followed by Elterwater Quickstep. Elterwater is a village as well as a small lake in Great Langdale in the English Lake District.
Both tunes proved a lot trickier to play than they appeared at first. This is the last of many (many) attempts to video the tunes. Played on my L'Elfique with 3rds in on the LH and all 3 reeds on the RH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxx3AYMg3Vo&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 07, 2020, 03:59:23 PM
Two related tunes from William Irwin, the 19th century Lakeland fiddler, named after the place he lived. They are the Elterwater Hornpipe followed by Elterwater Quickstep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxx3AYMg3Vo&feature=youtu.be
That's nice. Doesn't sound hard at all.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on February 07, 2020, 04:47:36 PM
Loch Lomond
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Ellisteph on February 07, 2020, 11:03:04 PM
Two related tunes from William Irwin, the 19th century Lakeland fiddler, named after the place he lived. They are the Elterwater Hornpipe followed by Elterwater Quickstep. Elterwater is a village as well as a small lake in Great Langdale in the English Lake District.
Both tunes proved a lot trickier to play than they appeared at first. This is the last of many (many) attempts to video the tunes. Played on my L'Elfique with 3rds in on the LH and all 3 reeds on the RH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxx3AYMg3Vo&feature=youtu.be
Enjoyed those - thanks. Coincidentally, I asked some musician friends if they had any suggestions for this theme last week, and Neil Brookes said 'There's a nice one called Elterwater - but I can't remember how it goes.' And now I know; though I'm not sure which of the two he meant. I'm working on a modern tune, but I think I'll try these once I've sorted my post. Don't want to overtax the small bit of brain responsible for music!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Dennis Steckley on February 08, 2020, 03:46:00 AM
I'm sure this is a silly "newbie" question, but how/where would one find the music to the Irwin tunes?

Thanks.

Dennis S.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: penn on February 08, 2020, 08:27:04 AM
I'm sure this is a silly "newbie" question, but how/where would one find the music to the Irwin tunes?

Thanks.

Dennis S.
Chris Partington’s site is a treasure trove
http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Irwin/Irwin%20Info.html (http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/Irwin/Irwin%20Info.html)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Hugh Taylor on February 08, 2020, 10:50:23 AM
I'm sure this is a silly "newbie" question, but how/where would one find the music to the Irwin tunes?
Thanks.
Dennis S.


Yes Chris's site is great, but best to start with the Village Music Project site - https://www.village-music-project.org.uk/
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Mcgrooger on February 08, 2020, 12:04:35 PM
Thanks Hugh. I was just about to post that link.
I actually got the dots for the Hornpipe and the Elterwater idea from a tunebook published by Furness Tradition but I got the ones for the Quickstep from the VMP.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on February 09, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
Midnight on the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06zQ9ZjWdE
SJ
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Pete Dunk on February 09, 2020, 12:15:45 PM
Yes Chris's site is great, but best to start with the Village Music Project site - https://www.village-music-project.org.uk/ (https://www.village-music-project.org.uk/)

Chris is in charge of the VMP transcriptions, his website is up to date and the abc files are far more accessible to copy and download than those on the 'new' VMP website in my experience. YMMV.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: baz parkes on February 09, 2020, 01:20:20 PM
Midnight on the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06zQ9ZjWdE
SJ

Lovely...beat me to that one...I'll have to have another think... :|glug
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Stotty on February 09, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
Midnight on the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06zQ9ZjWdE
SJ

Is it just me, or is that very similar to Bonaparte's Retreat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNigFpaBBf8

I'll take it as Midnight on the Water as it does give a good excuse to play it again.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on February 09, 2020, 03:03:51 PM
They're usually played together. As here with the wonderful Molly Mason showing how to play guitar accompaniment properly.

Skip the first 2 minutes.

Sir John

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3KkstP-VFk
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Fred on February 09, 2020, 03:18:54 PM
Midnight on the Water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H06zQ9ZjWdE
SJ

Hm. I might have missed something here. In how far is this link related to melodeon.net Theme of the Month? I mean, I understand that the tune has water in its name. I'm just wondering why your link isn't a melodeon video? Just to show the tune exists and to give inspiration to others to play it? Or maybe you wanted to post another link (e.g. of your recording) and confound them?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on February 09, 2020, 03:58:42 PM
Can't find one
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 09, 2020, 09:48:07 PM
Here's a run through of The Water is Wide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvCgMjFUvMo&feature=youtu.be) - with that countermelody. Nothing special, just as it came out. Storm blasting in background.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: howard mitchell on February 10, 2020, 04:26:44 PM
Here's Morecambe Bay by Pat Shaw, written in 1972 for a dance of the same name.
https://youtu.be/T9FWYMNwyqA (https://youtu.be/T9FWYMNwyqA)

Quite a bit of cross-rowing to match the G chords and A chords and the Cnat in the B music.  I often use the D reversal on the half row but in this tune the E reversal gets a bit of use as it's needed against a G chord in bar 4 of the A music but the same bit of melody in bar 4 of the B music has an Em so doesn't need the reversal.


Mitch
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 10, 2020, 06:28:28 PM
Jolly good jolly playing. I like that flat 7 chord in the B section too. Very Malcolm Arnold.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Anahata on February 10, 2020, 08:04:55 PM
Here's a tune by Nick Barber that suits the theme nicely: The English Channel (https://youtu.be/rgbrYy2NIuM)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 10, 2020, 08:14:24 PM
Here's a tune by Nick Barber that suits the theme nicely: The English Channel (https://youtu.be/rgbrYy2NIuM)
Tidy playing as always.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Ellisteph on February 12, 2020, 11:00:28 AM
My entry for water-related geography; Summer on Marshall Pond, composed by Pam Weeks, a fiddler and Appalachian dulcimer player from Maine. This tune is on her CD 'Waiting for the Perseids'.
Apropos of another thread, I would like to say that my Salterelle is a pleasure to play again now that Theo has re-waxed my bass reeds. Thanks Theo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krALTT4Ctws
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: baz parkes on February 12, 2020, 04:32:05 PM
More aquatic shenanigins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h0AqB5kSng&feature=youtu.be

Over the Waterfall, an American reel learned from the late lamented Paul Havell way back in the days of Tettenhall Dick. Apparently also known as The Lad that Looked Like Me. The aforementioned Lad was obviously closely acquainted with The Dark Girl Dressed In Blue.


(I used to play banjo in those days.... :|glug)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Ellison on February 13, 2020, 08:12:29 PM
Here's one I prepared earlier (as usual due to non-playing at the mo).
The Trowie Burn, just deep enough to dip my toe in. With Keith Ryan on fiddle . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va4Zt1O1kdE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va4Zt1O1kdE)

Martin
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Jesse Smith on February 14, 2020, 02:58:43 AM
Here's one I prepared earlier (as usual due to non-playing at the mo).
The Trowie Burn, just deep enough to dip my toe in. With Keith Ryan on fiddle . . .

Those John Stickle tunes are so wonderfully odd. Another of my favorites, Waterman's Hornpipe, was also collected from him (come to think of it, that would also fit this month's theme!).
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: melod-ian on February 14, 2020, 09:33:43 AM
Can't find one
Heres a Midnight on the Water i had recorded a few years back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfP8aMYz8vQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfP8aMYz8vQ)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: melod-ian on February 14, 2020, 11:28:47 AM
There’s loads of Cajun /Creole tunes for this one, plenty of places beginning with the word ‘Lake’:
Lake Charles, Lake Arthur, Lake Martin… etc

This one is Lake Charles Waltz as its not a standard tune I don’t get to play it that often.
The original taken from Ed Poullard / Les Amis Creole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg04XP-Auy8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg04XP-Auy8)
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: penn on February 15, 2020, 07:24:57 PM
My totm/thotm posts have been somewhat sporadic recently, and my melodeon progression hasn’t been great recently, but I’ve been starting to enjoy playing more over the last couple of weeks. I started on this tune thanks to Sir John’s earlier recommendation, and then Ian’s wonderful version (by which I’m very impressed and I suppose somewhat influenced….) got in before me.
So, once again, Midnight on the Water…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkTQNU0ZBc&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkTQNU0ZBc&feature=youtu.be)

Gren
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Clive Williams on February 15, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
Here's my take on this, a tune I've learned off my friends at our local fiddle club (I dabble), Flatwater Fran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAtHHZen5fU

It's a Phil Cunningham tune, and it does fit on the melodeon really nicely. It's got a bit of a mazurka feel to it too.

Because it's a bit blowy here, and I didn't fancy my chances of getting an acoustic recording with a howling gale on around me, and also because I wanted to mess around a bit with midi on the Streb, here it is, played on the Streb, but sounding very, very different.

I'm using the ocarina sound on the midi synth, and the Streb as a wind midi device - something it's *very* good at. I've got basses going to 'bandoneon', which I admit is a poor sample, but that's the fault of the DAW software, not the Streb. I've mixed them *way* back in the mix, and added a piano track (I'm working on my piano at the moment, and my playing is basic to say the least, so putting an accompaniment to this was quite achievement for me).

... so we end up with something very different. It is just one melodeon, and one piano line though.

By the way, does anyone have a *good* set of melodeon samples (as a VST instrument)? All the ones I come across are useless, and I think the internal Streb samples beat them hands down.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Peadar on February 15, 2020, 10:58:13 PM
A sort of Two for the price of one....The tune is Loch Liobhan, shot on location en-route to Melodeon Playgroup.
The mountain in the video (that's January sorted!) is Beinn Donail.
A bit of unplanned improvisation in the middle - but I was in the middle of the Loch....OK on a half-island in the middle of the Loch and it was freezing. There is also a guest appearance by Deo.

 https://youtu.be/9q1SaNh8Mw4
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Gary Chapin on February 16, 2020, 10:31:27 PM
Here's a waltz, "Sur le bord de la Riviere," followed by a bourree, "Les filles de St. Nicholas."

https://accordeonaire.com/2020/02/16/a-waltz-and-a-bourree/

Thanks
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Helena Handcart on February 17, 2020, 01:31:27 PM
Here's a work in progress video of 'Banks of the Dee' that I've decided to shoehorn into this month's ThoTM - I've decided I need to push myself to record and share more stuff in the drive to play better.

This was a test video using not one but two new toys, firstly my beautiful new (old) Saltarelle Pastourelle, secondly a test for my new Surface Go inbuilt mic and camera. I think part of the reason I don't record stuff is the faff of setting up the webcam and H2 recorder with the laptop so I wanted to test what this little tablet could do with no auxiliary kit.

I will aim to polish it up a bit and post again by the end of the month but in the meantime here's Banks of the Dee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1noMqN54y4I) recorded during storm Dennis yesterday.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 17, 2020, 02:04:14 PM
Well, Helena, that's a lot of toys - and it seems they all work very well indeed. I'm also aware that my background is cluttered, so well done on having a tidy environment too. Look forward to more.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Gary Chapin on February 17, 2020, 02:35:23 PM
Nicely done, Helena!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Gena Crisman on February 17, 2020, 03:12:44 PM
This was a test video using not one but two new toys, firstly my beautiful new (old) Saltarelle Pastourelle, secondly a test for my new Surface Go inbuilt mic and camera. I think part of the reason I don't record stuff is the faff of setting up the webcam and H2 recorder with the laptop so I wanted to test what this little tablet could do with no auxiliary kit.

Sounds just fine to me, so if the recording of your Pastourelle sounds right to you, then, that should be sufficient. I'm almost always chasing personal satisfaction.

The video is actually very good - the clarity of that pattern behind you is by no means gaurenteed in a recording - I'm assuming you were lit by daylight? My only comment would be, you can see some duplication of occasional frames just past 2:05, and then recovers ~20 seconds later (https://youtu.be/1noMqN54y4I?t=125). You can see it if you watch on a PC, pause the video, and use , and . keys to move frame by frame. That might be caused by the computer being distracted by some other program, or, it could be being overwhelmed in some way by the recording.

This isn't a really big deal - however, I've had videos like this where, instead of duplicating the frames, some re-encoding software (eg my video editor & youtube) would skip those duplicates, so, the video would get ahead of the audio by a frame every time. This can lead to some pretty dire audio desync by the end of the video. Saving those videos is possible, but can be hard work and the results can be a little disappointing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_SKRMK-WiQ&feature=youtu.be) when it gets out of hand. So, I'd suggest keeping an eye on it.

Otherwise though, it's great, and it's nice to see+hear your playing, as well as the new (old) box.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 17, 2020, 03:59:17 PM
Interesting to know those shortcuts, Gena, but I hope no-one ever watches mine that hard.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Helena Handcart on February 17, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
...This isn't a really big deal - however, I've had videos like this where, instead of duplicating the frames, some re-encoding software (eg my video editor & youtube) would skip those duplicates, so, the video would get ahead of the audio by a frame every time. This can lead to some pretty dire audio desync by the end of the video. Saving those videos is possible, but can be hard work and the results can be a little disappointing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_SKRMK-WiQ&feature=youtu.be) when it gets out of hand. So, I'd suggest keeping an eye on it.

Otherwise though, it's great, and it's nice to see+hear your playing, as well as the new (old) box.

Thanks Gena, I get this, I really do. It's just not really what I am looking for. I'd like to record more stuff because I find you can see and hear bits you want to change in your own playing that you would otherwise miss. For me the faff of getting the laptop, webcam and microphone together in the right room and then connecting them up, checking the sound and picture is *probably* one of the reasons I don't do it very often.

For stuff like this I think the Surface is great, I literally plonked it down on a side table wiggled it in it's stand to get the box in and my face out of the picture ('cos no one, no one needs to see that), pressed record... and that was it.  Quick trim of the bits of me looking gormless leaning forward to hit the button at start and end and that was it.

If I'd done the video and discovered a problem with duplication of frames or somesuch that bothered me I'd probably just a) do it again or b) not bother. Probably B if I'm honest. As a simple plonk-it-down-and-press-go sort of a solution it works for me.

Lovely old box isn't it?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Winston Smith on February 17, 2020, 04:13:02 PM
"my face out of the picture ('cos no one, no one needs to see that)"

I rather enjoy seeing the "Melodeon Face" of players on here, but on this one I was distracted by the flexing of the muscles in your forearm where it disappeared into your sleeve.
Lovely box and playing, by the way.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Gena Crisman on February 17, 2020, 06:21:10 PM
If I'd done the video and discovered a problem with duplication of frames or somesuch that bothered me I'd probably just a) do it again or b) not bother. Probably B if I'm honest. As a simple plonk-it-down-and-press-go sort of a solution it works for me.

Yeah, that's the thing for me - if the technology somehow lets you down and you flip from feeling good about a performance to feeling disappointed... It's very disheartening.

To be clear, I mentioned this thing as like a just in case. If it was my video, I would be happy. Plus, since you're already editing bits off of the video, it's unlikely anything will change. For me, it was adding in an extra editing step to remove the start+end that caused me to go from being fine, to having real problems, and, it seems you already have that step and it's all ok! So, it should be fine, but, I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Interesting to know those shortcuts, Gena, but I hope no-one ever watches mine that hard.

I'm not sure what it is, but vs say, my husband, I'm much more attuned to any kind of frame rate related discrepancies in TVs/movies/online videos etc - they really just jump out at me. I'm not sure how many people are as similarly attuned, but I know I'm not entirely alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0XFkKncuwk).

What I'm effectively saying, though, is that I watch at all videos this hard.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Mcgrooger on February 18, 2020, 10:13:49 AM
Here's a work in progress video of 'Banks of the Dee' that I've decided to shoehorn into this month's ThoTM - I've decided I need to push myself to record and share more stuff in the drive to play better.
I will aim to polish it up a bit and post again by the end of the month but in the meantime here's Banks of the Dee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1noMqN54y4I) recorded during storm Dennis yesterday.

Nice - please do keep sharing.  :|||: (:) There's no way that's 'shoehorned' btw - I'd be happy to put something far more oblique in ThOTM (as I'm sure would Clive! ;))
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Anahata on February 18, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
There's no way that's 'shoehorned' btw - I'd be happy to put something far more oblique in ThOTM (as I'm sure would Clive! ;))

Yes, I'd considered Banks of the Dee as a contribution this month without a moment's thought that it might be a good fit.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Helena Handcart on February 18, 2020, 03:21:23 PM
There's no way that's 'shoehorned' btw - I'd be happy to put something far more oblique in ThOTM (as I'm sure would Clive! ;))

Yes, I'd considered Banks of the Dee as a contribution this month without a moment's thought that it might be a good fit.

Ah yes, I considered it shoehorned it simply because it was not recorded for ThOTM, I was messing about with the tune, the box and the tablet PC and then realised I'd picked a recording that would fit with this month's theme - maybe just a happy accident.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on February 19, 2020, 04:38:28 PM
Lochanside:(Loch Loskin): 3/4 retreat air by John McLellan DCM , the background is online.

https://youtu.be/AtIbHM4SKeY

I may have heard Simon Haines play this tune and added it to the w.i.p. stack. Imperfect as ever but...what ever is?

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Roman Simcik on February 20, 2020, 01:43:45 AM
Loch Tay Boat Song: https://youtu.be/LxLH17WhD2k

I've loved this song since I discovered it some 20 years ago. It was then sung by Asonance, a Czech group specialized in Irish & Scottish folk music, whose version was almost identical to the original one from Silly Wizard.

Not very fluid playing, and the sound is not great... but that's the best I can do with it this month.

Best,
Roman
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Little Eggy on February 22, 2020, 02:54:47 PM
Ripple of the Teign - Bob Cann - "Proper Job"  The sleeve notes refer to the existence of a B part written by Katie Howson.
Anyone know where I can find it?   Played on my D/G Maestro.  Not yet fully in my fingers but it's a nice little tune to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZVLJrxoU7w
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: playandteach on February 22, 2020, 02:59:09 PM
I think you've been too humble about your playing, Little Eggy - this is really nicely done.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Steve_freereeder on February 22, 2020, 05:02:02 PM
Ripple of the Teign - Bob Cann - "Proper Job"  The sleeve notes refer to the existence of a B part written by Katie Howson.
Anyone know where I can find it?
Why not ask Katie herself? She's a member here so you could send her a PM or use the contact information on her website here  ;)
https://katiehowson.co.uk/contact
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Little Eggy on February 22, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Ripple of the Teign - Bob Cann - "Proper Job"  The sleeve notes refer to the existence of a B part written by Katie Howson.
Anyone know where I can find it?
Why not ask Katie herself? She's a member here so you could send her a PM or use the contact information on her website here  ;)
https://katiehowson.co.uk/contact

Thanks for the suggestion.  I will let you know how I get on....
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Peadar on February 23, 2020, 12:42:59 AM
Loch Laomain - played on a  Wilkinson Excelsior C/C# (dated 1926), the recording is more a sound sample than anything else. Fettling like the tune is a work in progress. :D

https://youtu.be/hcvcMXFP1pY

 
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Winston Smith on February 24, 2020, 07:47:49 PM
I thought that it would be a pity not to make the most of our trip on the Nile last week. So I've turned into film producer/director/cameraman and sound engineer all in one go! As it's my very first attempt at doing something like this, I hope that you'll bear with me!

https://youtu.be/oeeoVxkHTRY (https://youtu.be/oeeoVxkHTRY)

Ooh! Forgot! It's a variation of a tune for On the Banks of the Nile.

Sorry! I should warn you that it's VERY loud, in case you're using earphones or something.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Peadar on February 24, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
I thought that it would be a pity not to make the most of our trip on the Nile last week. So I've turned into film producer/director/cameraman and sound engineer all in one go! As it's my very first attempt at doing something like this, I hope that you'll bear with me!

https://youtu.be/oeeoVxkHTRY (https://youtu.be/oeeoVxkHTRY)

Ooh! Forgot! It's a variation of a tune for On the Banks of the Nile.

Sorry! I should warn you that it's VERY loud, in case you're using earphones or something.
Nicely done.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Little Eggy on February 25, 2020, 03:57:46 PM
Ripple of the Teign - Bob Cann - "Proper Job"  The sleeve notes refer to the existence of a B part written by Katie Howson.
Anyone know where I can find it?
Why not ask Katie herself? She's a member here so you could send her a PM or use the contact information on her website here  ;)
https://katiehowson.co.uk/contact

Thanks for the suggestion.  I will let you know how I get on....

Katie Howson has kindly replied to a message about this.  Apparently whilst she wrote a B part Bob Cann did so as well and both versions are played. I’m buying her CD which includes the tune.  She also gave me feedback and advice on my version!  Thanks to Steve freereeder for suggesting I get in touch.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Peadar on February 25, 2020, 10:31:32 PM
Loch Tay Boat Song: https://youtu.be/LxLH17WhD2k

I've loved this song since I discovered it some 20 years ago. It was then sung by Asonance, a Czech group specialized in Irish & Scottish folk music, whose version was almost identical to the original one from Silly Wizard.

Not very fluid playing, and the sound is not great... but that's the best I can do with it this month.

Best,
Roman
A fine old Highland song- I enjoyed listening to your recording. The song predates Silly Wizard though. The melody was reportedly collected circa 1870 from the singing of a Mrs. Cameron at Ceann Loch Aileart. Unfortunately the original words are lost.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Sebastian on February 25, 2020, 11:32:30 PM
Wikipedia says:

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"Pack die Badehose ein" (Pack your swimsuit") is a cheery tune about a group of children going swimming on a hot summer's day at Wannsee (lake in Berlin). The title of the song has become a set phrase and synonym for going swimming easily recognized even by speakers of German who have never heard of the song.

https://soundcloud.com/weltsauerstoff/pack-die-badehose-ein

Annoyingly the bass-cut filter was active during the recording.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Clive Williams on February 29, 2020, 10:18:47 PM
Thanks everyone; on to the next theme! As ever, please feel free to post any late contribs to the end of this thread, no problem!
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Jesse Smith on March 11, 2020, 04:31:53 PM
My very late contribution (which annoys me to do, because I think hardly anyone sees these once the month is no longer current).

The Banks of the Dee (https://youtu.be/egoM976Z2Ik)

Helena got to this one before me last month, but hopefully mine is sufficiently different in style. With a set of Morris slows thrown in at the end because why not. This one gave me a surprising degree of trouble to get where I wanted it. I guess because as a double jig there's really no place to rest in between phrases.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Anahata on March 11, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
Well I saw it...
And a very morris-worthy and danceable rendition too!
Also good to have some historical detail about the tune.
It was on my list of possibles for last month.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Peadar on March 11, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
 Nice tune.
Before I listened to it I wondered which Dee....as I listened to it decided it could only be the Welsh Dee...so kind of surprised to read that "The Banks f the Dee" is a Scottish song. Have you got the words?
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Jesse Smith on March 11, 2020, 07:35:44 PM
Anahata, thank you for the compliment! I had to work pretty hard on this one to get it to the point where it started to feel musical to me. I picked it cause I thought, "You know, Morris tune, how hard could it be?" but there's quite a distance between learning the notes and getting the right rhythm and fluidity.

Peadar, I found the words here: https://www.americanrevolution.org/war_songs/warsongs17.php. The song was written John Tait in 1775, from the perspective of a woman whose lover was shipping over "to quell the proud rebels" in the American colonies. The "proud rebels" took to the song as well, and it was popular in the colonies, including some parody versions with lyrics telling the Tories to go back home to the banks of the Dee.

I assumed the Dee is the river in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, but I read somewhere that John Tait was actually Irish, and there is a River Dee in eastern Ireland, so who knows, really.

The tune was originally used for an earlier Irish bawdy song called "Langolee". I saw a suggestion online that the tune was originally written by Handel before it had any words attached to it, but I haven't been able to find any other source for that idea.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Rob Lands on March 12, 2020, 10:46:51 AM
Lango Lee is in lots of manuscripts including Roose.0510  where it was called New Lango Lee. My notes on that "transcription" were
N:This is the tune to a ballad of the same name. The tune is in the
N:'The Compleat Tutor for the Fife' (London, 1770) and
N:'The Compleat Tutor for the Hautboy' (London, 1770).
N:The "New" may connect it to new words for the ballad as the tune can be found without "New".
N:The tune is also very similar to 'Banks of the Dee'.
B:John Roose, Manchester 1850

I didn't find the connection with Handel at the time, that interesting.  The notes made are just a start indicating it is pre 1770.
Title: Re: Theme of the Month for February 2020: Rivers, Lakes, Seas, Water etc
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 13, 2020, 11:26:54 AM
Another late entry. I didn't think this was up to posting standard, but I just listened back to it and it's not as bad as I thought so I decided to post it, instead of deleting it.

https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/down-the-burn-davie-lad

I got the tune from from Joshua Jackson's book. I've never heard it played by anyone else, but I'm sure it must have been.

Down The Burn Davy Lad first appeared, as a song with a different tune, in William Thompson's Orpheus Caledonius of 1825 and is believed to have been composed by Robert Crawford, who wrote "Tweedside". The last verse, which contained rather tame references to ladies sticky out bits, was considered unfit for the ears of polite, late 18th C society and Robert Burns was asked, by the later Thompson, George, publisher of numerous musical works, to write a new verse to replace it, which he did after some persuasion, in September 1793.

At some point  the song had acquired a different tune...this one, which is the tune Burns used. Burns was told by his friend, Robert Riddell's father, that this air was composed by David Maigh, the keeper of the Laird of Riddell's blood slough hounds.

Here endeth the lesson. I love learning the background to these old tunes.
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