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Title: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2009, 12:46:01 AM
Got a tune you think will make a great tune of the month? Nominate it here!

There is a list of all the currently nominated tunes here:

http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2648.msg29886.html#msg29886

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 01, 2009, 10:27:41 AM
Having just looked at the list of nominated tunes, it does not include Ashokan Farewell, which two or three of us suggested a few days ago would make a good Tune of the Month.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on December 01, 2009, 11:30:03 AM
I'd like to suggest "Ich hörte ein Sichelein rauschen". Sebastian posted this on a thread about German tunes for a C/F box and has kindly uploaded the video again here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAD63D9sFY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAD63D9sFY)

He also suppied a ABC for those who are interested:-
X:1
T:Ich hörte ein Sichelein rauschen
M:6/8
K:F
L:1/8
F/G/ | "F"AG A "F"cB A | "g"G3 D2 G/A/ | "g"BA B dc B | "D"(A3 A) z |
[|: A/B/ | "F"cd c c"B"f d | "F"c3 A2 F/G/ | "F"AB A "C"GA G | "F"(F3 F) z :|]

Louise
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on December 01, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
If an ABC is provided then you can paste it into Navigator or similar and it will play it for you.

And I think that providing an ABC should be necessary for a tune's inclusion.

EDIT: I don't think that anyone's mentioned Waterman's yet, I nominate it (:)

X:1
T:Waterman's Hornpipe
T:Transcribed from the playing of Brass Monkey
M:5/2
L:1/4
Q:1/2=96
K:G
P:A
G>A BB d/B/A/B/ GD D2 | G>A BB d/B/A/B/ GD D2 |
M:2/2
D/E/=F/G/ AD | D/E/=F/G/ AD | D/E/=F/G/ Ad/c/ | BA B2|
G>A B>c | dG G2 | e2 ed | dB/c/ dB | gB A2 | d>c BA/B/ |
G>A BB | d/BA/ BB | d/BA/ BB | d/BA/ BG |[M:3/2]cB A2 G2||
M:2/2
P:B
gB gB | A>G FE/D/ | E>F A/G/F/E/ | DA A2 |
E>F E>F | GD D2 |E>F E/F/E/F/ | GD D2 | B>c BA/B/ |GD D2 |
D/E/=F/G/ AD | D/E/=F/G/ AD | D/E/=F/G/ Ad/c/ | BA B2|
G>A B>c | dG G2 | e2 ed | dB/c/ dB | gB A2 | d>c BA/B/ |
G>A BB | d/BA/ BB | d/BA/ BB | d/BA/ BG |[M:3/2]cB A2 G2|]
W:
W:Transcribed from the playing of Brass Monkey on Topic Records:
W:"The Complete Brass Monkey" TSCD 467.
W:From the sleeve notes:
W:One of several unusual and compelling tunes taken from the playing of John Stickle,
W:the Shetland fiddler, who was recorded in 1947 by Patrick Shuldham Shaw.
W:A selection of Stickle's music was published in the Journal of the
W:English Folk Dance and Song Society in 1968.


Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: forrest on December 01, 2009, 04:58:13 PM
Having just looked at the list of nominated tunes, it does not include Ashokan Farewell, which two or three of us suggested a few days ago would make a good Tune of the Month.

I second this nomination    :||:
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 01, 2009, 05:06:09 PM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 01, 2009, 05:06:27 PM

Quote
Almost totally disagree with this (in a fully supportive manner). If someone wants to punt a tune for the ToTM they must supply ABCs or youTube or equivalent so people can make a judgement.

I fully understand what and why you're saying that Lester, but as Steve said:
Quote
It would be exclusive to insist on dots before a tune could be nominated.

And I think there's a danger that we could miss a trick or two by insisting that folk provide dots/ABC before submitting a tune for nomination. And there's a danger that a really great tune could be missed out on simply because the person concerned did not have the confidence or ability to support their nomination with the technical stuff. Actually what I'd hope would happen in that situation would be that the person would share their tune idea with the forum and someone would step into the breach. However, we are a worldwide phenomenon (!) on this forum and I just love the idea that any member can chip in with a tune idea and it get taken up and performed by the whole forum. I'd hate to lose that.

By the way - I third Ashokan Farewell - it was suggested by a few of us a few days ago as a strong contender. Though I do seem to remember it being shot out of the sky because it was difficult to play on a D/G box ( ??? ) - I understand the predominence of D/G system on this forum - but I repeat, we're a worldwide phenomenom (I've only written it twice to convince myself that my spelling is ok!)
AL
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
Though I do seem to remember it being shot out of the sky because it was difficult to play on a D/G box ( ??? )

I haven't discounted it at all - I just haven't updated the nominated tunes list yet. It's a perfectly good nomination, and the fact that it has a little bit that needs accidentals on a D/G doesn't disqualify it - Patapan last month also needs an accidental to play it. No promises until we have a final list of nominations, but it's highly Ashokan's Farewell will make the poll because several people have now expressed a liking for it. Whether it'll win or not remains to be seen though, because tunes that can't easily be played on particular instruments will lose votes relative to those that can - but we leave that to the power of the poll.  :D

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Lester on December 01, 2009, 05:20:02 PM
but we leave that to the power of the poll.  :D

Oh! No! not that democracy thing again   ::)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 01, 2009, 05:36:47 PM
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it's highly Ashokan's Farewell will make the poll

Glad to hear it :D
AL
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2009, 08:11:38 PM
I'd like to suggest "Ich hörte ein Sichelein rauschen".

That's really nice, isn't it? Thanks for nominating it!
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: willriding on December 01, 2009, 08:13:03 PM
Quote
it's highly Ashokan's Farewell will make the poll

Glad to hear it :D
AL
I agree, it's a nice tune and I may even enter into the fray meself - I've only heard the midi so it's a good test for a relative newbie...
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2009, 08:16:13 PM
[[[The editorial marker pen has moved several non-suggestions-type messages to a new thread (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,3052.0.html)]]]
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2009, 08:18:43 PM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!

Could you stick up a video when you have a camera out? I see how the first bit works, but I'm not sure where the rest goes!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 01, 2009, 08:23:49 PM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!

Could you stick up a video when you have a camera out? I see how the first bit works, but I'm not sure where the rest goes!

Cheers,

Clive

Will try to. I have a simplified version which doesn't have the sections where the modulation happens (ie, most of the piece!) but the main theme and slow bit work. I could try and post the scanned dots when I have time too.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 01, 2009, 08:36:14 PM
A number of people seem to be in favour of Ashokan Farewell. Those who don't already know the tune might like to check the Favourite Slow Airs thread, where I have already posted the sheet music for it (with the author's permission). To hear it played on the fiddle by Jay Ungar, who wrote it, click on this link  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6dxrhqPZY

Sorry, I don't do ABC but, if it wins, I am sure that someone will convert the dots into ABC.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Susi on December 01, 2009, 10:34:58 PM
Those who like Ashokan farewell, do they know it has an unusual chord in it that could cause trouble when playing it on a squeezebox (now speaking 2-row or less)?
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: **DTN** on December 01, 2009, 10:55:20 PM
A number of people seem to be in favour of Ashokan Farewell. Those who don't already know the tune might like to check the Favourite Slow Airs thread, where I have already posted the sheet music for it (with the author's permission). To hear it played on the fiddle by Jay Ungar, who wrote it, click on this link  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6dxrhqPZY

Sorry, I don't do ABC but, if it wins, I am sure that someone will convert the dots into ABC.

Wow Ashokan Farewell is such a beautiful tune ... i will learn it anyway ....But as a future TOTM i would prefer something more up tempo. ... to mess with Ashokan Farewell would be a crime as it sounds so beautiful as a slow Air!
As with uploads / suggestions like Susi ... I don't do dots / I don't do ABC  so Audiovisual or Sound only for me!
Derek
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: forrest on December 02, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
Quote from: HallelujahAl link=topic=3033.msg35935#msg35935 date=125968

By the way - I third [i
Ashokan Farewell[/i] - it was suggested by a few of us a few days ago as a strong contender. Though I do seem to remember it being shot out of the sky because it was difficult to play on a D/G box ( ??? ) - I understand the predominence of D/G system on this forum.................
AL

Al, this tune can be played quite successfully on almost any quint tuned box ( ;D). It helps a bit if you can stop the thirds on the left hand, but not necessary. On a D/G box, you would be on the D row for the melody......jwf

Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: forrest on December 02, 2009, 12:59:44 AM
Those who like Ashokan farewell, do they know it has an unusual chord in it that could cause trouble when playing it on a squeezebox (now speaking 2-row or less)?

Yes, there is a chord shift, but  It's there under those buttons, truly. ;)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 02, 2009, 08:41:49 AM
Those who like Ashokan Farewell, do they know it has an unusual chord in it that could cause trouble when playing it on a squeezebox (now speaking 2-row or less)?

It is played regularly by melodeon players in sessions on D/G boxes with standard basses. It is easier if you cross the rows rather than staying on the D row for everything, and there is a need to work around the low notes if you don't have them, but it is all playable on a standard D/G with a little thought.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: juker on December 02, 2009, 08:48:28 AM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!
I would love to play this tune. ABC's Lester?
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Lester on December 02, 2009, 08:56:59 AM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!
I would love to play this tune. ABC's Lester?

Not ABCs but sheet music

http://makingmusicfun.net/pdf/sheet_music/jesu-joy-of-mans-desiring-piano-solo.pdf (http://makingmusicfun.net/pdf/sheet_music/jesu-joy-of-mans-desiring-piano-solo.pdf)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 02, 2009, 08:59:55 AM
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Al, this tune can be played quite successfully on almost any quint tuned box


Thanks I know - I was repeating an objection by somebody else, but it's a most beautiful tune, a haunting slow air, and I can not only play on the D/G box - but also on my 10 hole diatonic moothie - so it's eminently playable on just about any instrument with a little bit of jiggery-pokery  ;D
AL
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: juker on December 02, 2009, 09:19:32 AM
How about Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring by JS Bach? Fits really well on box. Not sure where to find the abcs though!
I would love to play this tune. ABC's Lester?

Not ABCs but sheet music

http://makingmusicfun.net/pdf/sheet_music/jesu-joy-of-mans-desiring-piano-solo.pdf (http://makingmusicfun.net/pdf/sheet_music/jesu-joy-of-mans-desiring-piano-solo.pdf)

Great!! Thankyou  (:)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Fidjit on December 02, 2009, 10:02:13 AM

- I've only heard the midi so it's a good test for a relative newbie...

Ashokan's Farewell
Where did you hear the Midi ?

I've only heard fiddle players on Youtube.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Lester on December 02, 2009, 10:37:17 AM

- I've only heard the midi so it's a good test for a relative newbie...

Ashokan's Farewell
Where did you hear the Midi ?

I've only heard fiddle players on Youtube.

Install ABC Navigator (http://abcnavigator.free.fr/abcnvgt.php?lang=eng) on your PC (it's FREE) and stick the ABC in and it will play it or use the ABC Convert-A-Matic (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html).
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 02, 2009, 10:40:23 AM
Those who like Ashokan Farewell, do they know it has an unusual chord in it that could cause trouble when playing it on a squeezebox (now speaking 2-row or less)?

Suzi, I see TOTM as an opportunity to 'push my envelope' and make any such unusual chord part of my technique. OK I might have to fake it given the nature of the instrument.  I don't feel we should pick tunes that need 3 rows, but I think 1-rowers will have to fend for themselves (and very well too, so far)!

Could I be seconder forther for Ashokan Farewell please. Lovely tune ,and one I've never really had a go at.  Also it gets us away from Anglo-French and into Stáit Aontaithe Mheiriceá (as our Irish friends would spell it)  ???

Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 02, 2009, 10:43:03 AM
Quote
Could I be seconder for Ashokan Farewell please.

You'll have to get in the queue Chris as it's already been seconded and thirded(by me ;D)
Great tune and as you say, gets us into slightly newer territory.
AL
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Susi on December 02, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
It's a nice tune indeed. I've never attempted to play it on the box, not for that Am chord but because I think it's nicer on the fiddle where you can do some hammer-ons and slides. But again, remember that I'm a beginner, I know you can do a lot of ornaments on the squeezebox, just that it's not in my world right now..
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 02, 2009, 12:49:20 PM
Not ABCs but sheet music

Here's the sheet music in abc, top line only.

X:1
T:Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
C:Johann Sebastian Bach
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:G
z GA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB | cde dcB ABG |
FGA DFA cBA | BGA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB |
Edc BAG DGF | G2 z B3 c3 | d6 d3 |
c6 B3 | ADE FAG AcB | cAF DFA cBA |
BGA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB | Edc BAG DGF |
G2 z B3 c3 | d6 d3 | c6 B3 |
ADE FAG AcB | cAF DFA cBA | BGA Bdc ced |
dgf gdB GAB | Edc BAG DGF G6 z3 |
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Fidjit on December 02, 2009, 04:30:21 PM

- I've only heard the midi so it's a good test for a relative newbie...

Ashokan's Farewell
Where did you hear the Midi ?

I've only heard fiddle players on Youtube.
Install ABC Navigator (http://abcnavigator.free.fr/abcnvgt.php?lang=eng) on your PC (it's FREE) and stick the ABC in and it will play it or use the ABC Convert-A-Matic (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html).

OK Lester. So where's the ABC then?
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 02, 2009, 04:30:34 PM
Thought I'd suggested it before, but its not on the list....  ???
What about Mudgee Waltz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-obkAyF-Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaSbfMOhG00
written music here:
http://www.bushtraditions.org/tutors/inrow.htm

(Love the tune Ive had a go at it before...but not seriously..I think if it was TOTM would give me the incentive to try it again)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 02, 2009, 04:36:32 PM
OK Lester. So where's the ABC then?

This lets the cat out of the bag, sorry Bob.

X:1
T:Ashokan Farewell
C:Jay Ungar
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:D
(A<c) | d3 c B/A | F4 E<F | G3 F E<D | B,2 D3 B, |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 f2 | f3 g f2 | e4 A<c |
d3 c B<A | F4 E<F | G3 F E<D | B,2 D3 B, |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 f2 | A2 c2 e2 | d4 F<G |
A3 F D2 | d4 A2 | B3 c d2 | A2 F2 F<E |
F3 E D2 | B,4 D2 | A,6 | A4 FD |
D2 F2 A2 | =c4 c2 | B3 c d2 | A2 F3 D |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 F2 E3 A, C2 | D6 ||
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Lester on December 02, 2009, 04:37:44 PM

- I've only heard the midi so it's a good test for a relative newbie...

Ashokan's Farewell
Where did you hear the Midi ?

I've only heard fiddle players on Youtube.
Install ABC Navigator (http://abcnavigator.free.fr/abcnvgt.php?lang=eng) on your PC (it's FREE) and stick the ABC in and it will play it or use the ABC Convert-A-Matic (http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html).

OK Lester. So where's the ABC then?

Mostly they can be found at JC's Tune Finder (http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind)

Very good guide to ABCs here (http://info.melodeon.net/info/abc)   ;D
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 02, 2009, 08:18:41 PM
OK Lester. So where's the ABC then?

This lets the cat out of the bag, sorry Bob.

There's nothing to apologise for, tallship. I am grateful to you for transcribing the tune into ABC.
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: juker on December 03, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
Not ABCs but sheet music

Here's the sheet music in abc, top line only.

X:1
T:Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
C:Johann Sebastian Bach
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:G
z GA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB | cde dcB ABG |
FGA DFA cBA | BGA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB |
Edc BAG DGF | G2 z B3 c3 | d6 d3 |
c6 B3 | ADE FAG AcB | cAF DFA cBA |
BGA Bdc ced | dgf gdB GAB | Edc BAG DGF |
G2 z B3 c3 | d6 d3 | c6 B3 |
ADE FAG AcB | cAF DFA cBA | BGA Bdc ced |
dgf gdB GAB | Edc BAG DGF G6 z3 |

I am practising as we speak!! Thanks  (:)
Title: Re: Future Suggestions Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 06, 2009, 05:19:36 PM
The editorial fountain pen has respectfully moved some more 'how TOTM works' stuff to this thread (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,3052.0.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Hectorawol on December 15, 2009, 08:04:50 AM
I really love that 'Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring'. I just converted the ABC and had a bit of a play on my C/F. This is a fantastic tune.  I was surprised with how easy it is.
Thank you. Another tune for my repertoire.  Hec.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 15, 2009, 10:05:20 AM
Quote
I really love that 'Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring'. I just converted the ABC and had a bit of a play on my C/F. This is a fantastic tune.  I was surprised with how easy it is.
Hi Hector - so true! I play it on the moothie - and it is surprisingly easy, as long as I can keep the breath control going.
AL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 15, 2009, 02:00:58 PM
I was wondering when the voting for january would begin because after the 24th I'll have very limited internet and 'polls' don't show up on my mobile internet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 16, 2009, 08:12:24 PM
It would be nice if we had a jig as next month's tune; so far we've had something in 2/4, 3/4 and 4/4, so now it should be time for some 6/8! I therefore submit to the house Hunt the Squirrel

http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/71192/

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 16, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
While I'm sympathetic to say 3-4 Cotswold Morris tunes over a year,  I personally think two in a row might not be best strategy.

I'll probably vote for Ashokan's Farewell as something completely new to me. Otherwise I'd like something else new. I'd even go with Cajun - I quite fancy something with blue corners. Chris (ex musician Mersey, & Mockbeggar Morris)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 16, 2009, 11:21:16 PM
Erm, as far as I know, that version of Hunt the Squirrel isn't a Cotswold tune... the Headington one (which, I hasten to add, I despise with a passion) is in 4/4.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 17, 2009, 12:01:43 AM
I was wondering when the voting for january would begin because after the 24th I'll have very limited internet and 'polls' don't show up on my mobile internet.

I expect I'll set it running around the 23rd.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 23, 2009, 09:13:15 AM
Well looks like Ashokan Farewell is going to win TOTM *sigh*....so I won't be taking part. Its impossible. More impossible than L'connu.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on December 23, 2009, 09:21:41 AM
Well looks like Ashokan Farewell is going to win TOTM *sigh*....so I won't be taking part. Its impossible. More impossible than L'connu.

Bit early yet to guess although the exit poll looks as if it might be going that way. As too "It's impossible" (note correct use of apostrophe) it isn't and "I won't be taking part" is defeatist which I never expected to hear from you. Ask for help, sure someone will produce tablature - button/finger numbers/manuscript/ABC or whatever else is you personal way forward.

Now go and stand in the corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVRV_xGEqc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 23, 2009, 09:30:48 AM
Well looks like Ashokan Farewell is going to win TOTM *sigh*....so I won't be taking part. Its impossible. More impossible than L'connu.

Bit early yet to guess although the exit poll looks as if it might be going that way. As too "It's impossible" (note correct use of apostrophe) it isn't and "I won't be taking part" is defeatist which I never expected to hear from you. Ask for help, sure someone will produce tablature - button/finger numbers/manuscript/ABC or whatever else is you personal way forward.
You wanna know what my problem is with it.
1) There is no 'hook' in the tune to grab hold of. Its one of those 'bleugh' noise tunes that just won't stay in my head because they could be anything. It doesn't have any 'stand out' bits I can remember.

2) Not only is it on the D row (which I'm rubbish at) but 5th and 6th bars contain notes that...well I don't know where to find! Like the one below the stave with two lines through it....where on earth is that note? I'd be ok on the concertina but melodeon I'm lost. >:(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on December 23, 2009, 09:38:18 AM
Well looks like Ashokan Farewell is going to win TOTM *sigh*....so I won't be taking part. Its impossible. More impossible than L'connu.

Bit early yet to guess although the exit poll looks as if it might be going that way. As too "It's impossible" (note correct use of apostrophe) it isn't and "I won't be taking part" is defeatist which I never expected to hear from you. Ask for help, sure someone will produce tablature - button/finger numbers/manuscript/ABC or whatever else is you personal way forward.
You wanna know what my problem is with it.
1) There is no 'hook' in the tune to grab hold of. Its one of those 'bleugh' noise tunes that just won't stay in my head because they could be anything. It doesn't have any 'stand out' bits I can remember.

2) Not only is it on the D row (which I'm rubbish at) but 5th and 6th bars contain notes that...well I don't know where to find! Like the one below the stave with two lines through it....where on earth is that note? I'd be ok on the concertina but melodeon I'm lost. >:(

We can fix 2) but not sure about 1)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gandy on December 23, 2009, 10:40:23 AM
Like the one below the stave with two lines through it....where on earth is that note? I'd be ok on the concertina but melodeon I'm lost. >:(

Low "A".  Second button, push.   There are some low "B"s as well, though, which aren't available on a standard D/G with accidentals.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on December 23, 2009, 11:10:07 AM
Here's my suggestion for a future tune:
Machynlleth - an absolutely stonking Welsh processional tune. The ABC is given below. Not too difficult, but watch out for the 4th bar of the B-music. It doesn't do quite what you might expect! If you've got the facility for a G-drone, stick it in on the C-music.

X:1
T:Machynlleth
M:2/4
L:1/16
Q:1/4=106
C:Welsh Traditional
R:Processional
K:G
P:A
|: dedc BcBA | G2G2 G2AB | c2A2 A2A2 | c2A2 A2Bc |
dedc BcBA | G2G2 G2AB | c2A2 G2F2 | G4 G4 :|
P:B
|: FAcA FAcA | GBdB GBdB | FAcA FAcA | FAcA GBdg |
e2e2 e2g2 | d2d2 d2g2 | d2c2 B2A2 | G4 G4 :|
P:C
|: d3e d2c2 | B4 B2c2 | d3g f2e2 | e2d2 d4 |
d3e d2c2 | B4 B2d2 | c2A2 G2F2 | G4 G4 :|
P:D
|: A2AB c2A2 | Bcde d4 | A2AB c2A2 | Bcde d4 |
e2e2 e2g2 | d2d2 d2g2 | d2c2 B2A2 | G4 G4 :|
W:
W:Learned from the playing of Bill Nichols and Dawnswyr Talog, Carmarthen 1984.
W:Also in 'Blodau'r Grug - 100 Popular Welsh Folk Dance Tunes',
W:published by The Welsh Folk Dance Society.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellie on December 23, 2009, 11:34:23 AM
Here's my suggestion for a future tune:
Machynlleth - an absolutely stonking Welsh processional tune.

That looks like a great tune Steve - will definitely give that a go anyway!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on December 23, 2009, 11:37:54 AM
LDT - you need to start a facebook movement to overturn the 'inevitable'. Choose 'Young Collins' as your RATM number and you'll win by a country mile  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 23, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
LDT - you need to start a facebook movement to overturn the 'inevitable'. Choose 'Young Collins' as your RATM number and you'll win by a country mile  ;D
Don't tempt me.  >:E I decided to vote strategically and choose the nearest rival which appears to be Orange in Bloom.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on December 23, 2009, 12:22:24 PM
Here's my suggestion for a future tune:
Machynlleth - an absolutely stonking Welsh processional tune.

That looks like a great tune Steve - will definitely give that a go anyway!
Thanks Ellie!

Hopefully, here's a link to the audio file ....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550

It's a very early attempt at multi-tracking - 2 tracks on a D/G melodeon, 2 tracks on a G/C melodeon, two tracks on whistles and one track on percussion (me banging the desk top with my fingers!)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 23, 2009, 12:56:03 PM
Here's my suggestion for a future tune:
Machynlleth - an absolutely stonking Welsh processional tune.
Hopefully, here's a link to the audio file ....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550

A nice tune, Steve. To my ear, it sounds more central European than Welsh, but what do I know? [Probably written by an Austrian who spent a holiday in Machynlleth.]  ;) ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on December 23, 2009, 01:22:12 PM
To my ear, it sounds more central European than Welsh, but what do I know?
Oh blimey, it must be the way I play it.  :-[

Quote
[Probably written by an Austrian who spent a holiday in Machynlleth.]  
'Appen!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on December 23, 2009, 02:24:27 PM
I vote that if Machynlleth is chosen participants be required to pronounce the name of the tune as well as play it.
I should jolly well think so too!  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 24, 2009, 01:04:13 AM
MACHYNLLETH? Wear the fox hat.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on December 24, 2009, 07:10:40 AM
MACHYNLLETH? Wear the fox hat.
Now you've lost me, sorry.  ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 24, 2009, 07:34:23 AM
Man walks up to an East Ender "Bob Hoskins"  8) type and asks for directions to a fancy dress party in ChesWick "ChisWick" adding that he has nothing to wear and does not even know how to get there.

The gangster quite naturally replies "Wear the fox hat".  :|glug  


Clue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMUwCKtWMI)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on December 24, 2009, 08:32:31 AM
Man walks up to an East Ender "Bob Hoskins"  8) type and asks for directions to a fancy dress party in "ChesWick" adding that he has nothing to wear and does not even know how to get there.

The gangster quite naturally replies "Wear the fox hat".  :|glug 

Don't know where Cheswick is. Certainly not London. Even Chiswick isn't in the Eastern part of the smoke. Still didn't get the joke. :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 24, 2009, 08:36:43 AM
Prince Charles is at the W.I in Machynlleth wearing a foxes pelt on his head, brush and all. Obviously someone asks him why. In his explanation, he re-counts the conversation at breakfast with Her majesty:
   "What is one doing today Chas?"
   "One is addressing the W.I at Machynlleth Mummy."
   "Oh! Wear the fox hat."
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on December 24, 2009, 08:45:22 AM
Don't know where Cheswick is. Certainly not London. Even Chiswick isn't in the Eastern part of the smoke. Still didn't get the joke. :|bl
Cheswick is probably how they say Chiswick in Chiswick today. I was born in Chizzic though !! Just off the Chizzic high rd...I'm lost and I didn't get the joke..doh :|bl  more tea ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 24, 2009, 08:50:35 AM
Don't know where Cheswick is. Certainly not London. Even Chiswick isn't in the Eastern part of the smoke. Still didn't get the joke. :|bl
Cheswick is probably how they say Chiswick in Chiswick today. I was born in Chizzic though !! Just off the Chizzic high rd...I'm lost and I didn't get the joke..doh :|bl  more tea ::)



Like a lot of these tunes there is often more than one version of a joke - see my last post. It's nowt to do with Chiswick.



How about Maggie Morrisey as a suggestion for a future tune of the month?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on December 24, 2009, 08:57:23 AM
Don't know where Cheswick is. Certainly not London. Even Chiswick isn't in the Eastern part of the smoke. Still didn't get the joke. :|bl
Cheswick is probably how they say Chiswick in Chiswick today. I was born in Chizzic though !! Just off the Chizzic high rd...I'm lost and I didn't get the joke..doh :|bl  more tea ::)



Like a lot of these tunes there is often more than one version of a joke - see my last post. It's nowt to do with Chiswick.


Thank you, I'm there now. It took two cups of tea (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 24, 2009, 10:56:45 AM
We pair Maggie Morrisey with Jackie Tar - a lovely set of hornpipes.
 

Thank you, I'm there now. It took two cups of tea (:)

 ... but there were two jokes  :Ph


....but only one about Machynlleth.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GbH on December 24, 2009, 12:02:20 PM
LDT - you need to start a facebook movement to overturn the 'inevitable'. Choose 'Young Collins' as your RATM number and you'll win by a country mile  ;D

As it's so popular right now, why not just do a version of the RATM tune instead?  Obviously, it wouldn't work well just as an instrumental version, so you'd have to include the lyrics as well.   :o
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on December 24, 2009, 12:28:18 PM
For anyone who is thinking of voting Orange in Bloom (cracking tune) then ABC from the Morris Ring is below. Note, for non-Morris people, that the slow section does not come after the B section but after the A section. I think that we dance it A.2(2A.3B).2(2A.3C).2A but don't quote me on that :P

X: 8
T:Orange in Bloom, Sherborne
M:6/8
L:1/8
A:Sherborne
P:A(AB3)2(AC3)2A
K:G
Q:6/8=40
P:A
|:E>GE D<GA |B<dB  A2B |G>EE  D<GA |B<GG  G3:|
P:B
B>AB/c/ d2B  |A>GA  B>cd|e>dB  A>GA |B>AG  E2D|
E>GE D<GA |B<dB  A2B |G>EE  D<GA |B<GG  G3||
P:C
M:4/4
L:1/8
BABc d2B2 |AGA2  Bcd2|edB2  AGA2 |BAG2  E3D|
M:6/8
E>GE D<GA |B<dB  A2B |G>EE  D<GA |B<GG  G3||
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: gmatkin on December 24, 2009, 02:21:53 PM
How about Click go the Shears? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag8Yqvs8h54

I'd think it had lots of potential for you 8-bass+ folks and it's a splendid if neglected little tune...

Gav
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 24, 2009, 05:20:22 PM
How about Click go the Shears? I'd think it had lots of potential for you 8-bass+ folks and it's a splendid if neglected little tune...Gav

I recall (you were quite probably there, Gavin) Nic Jones saying his "Strike the Bell" was the predecessor of Rolf Harris's version, but you never know with such things.

As for the Sherbourne Waltz - I'll not vote for it as I already play it too much - but it is that good on a 2 row, I promise you.  Talk about useing ever button of the 8-bass.   I'll surely get a raft of fresh ideas if we go that way so vote away ...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ebor_fiddler on December 24, 2009, 05:53:38 PM
1) Wasn't Shear Clicking done first by Shirley Abicair on the Zither, some time previously?
2) How about "Up Shares, Down Shares"?

Chris at Christmas

PS Happy Christmas (in case I forgot before!).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 29, 2009, 10:28:10 AM
*sigh* looks like the hard tune is going to win. :-\
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Rees on December 29, 2009, 11:05:05 AM
I vote that if Machynlleth is chosen participants be required to pronounce the name of the tune as well as play it.

Living in Welshpool puts me en route between Birmingham and Machynlleth.
I'm often stopped in the street and asked "Can yow tell moy the woy to Muckin Elleth? Is eet any where near Dolly Geloo?"
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on December 29, 2009, 09:38:37 PM
Machynlleth looks like a fantastic tune!

Yes, c'mon people, vote for Orange in Bloom. ;D It's a beautiful tune and is so much fun to play on box and really lets you experiement with the basses, especially if you play it as a waltz.  :M

As much as I love AF, for me, it doesn't fit nicely on the box, and I think oom-pah basses rips what is a beautiful tune to shreads. It should (imo) be played smoothly and that can't be managed on a quint box very easily. Also, it has notes that disappear off the end of the box. I fear that it isn't a tune that is accessable to everyone and that it may put beginners and even some intermediates off joining in because it is too hard.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: juker on December 30, 2009, 02:22:14 AM
Yay, I'm with you Ollie, let's have Oranges in Bloom. It looks playable in a month, but it'll take me a year to learn Ashokan Farewell  :(  Beautiful tune that it is.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 30, 2009, 11:25:23 AM
Yay, I'm with you Ollie, let's have Oranges in Bloom. It looks playable in a month, but it'll take me a year to learn Ashokan Farewell  :(  Beautiful tune that it is.
Exactly how I feel.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ebor_fiddler on December 30, 2009, 12:09:56 PM
Mais ... .. c'est un doddle, un morceau du gateaux ... . .  :-*
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on December 30, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
As much as I love AF, for me, it doesn't fit nicely on the box, and I think oom-pah basses rips what is a beautiful tune to shreads. It should (imo) be played smoothly and that can't be managed on a quint box very easily. Also, it has notes that disappear off the end of the box. I fear that it isn't a tune that is accessable to everyone and that it may put beginners and even some intermediates off joining in because it is too hard.

It fits nicely on a D/G box with a low B.  Agree oom-pah basses are not appropriate, but there are many other bass possibilities.  With a small amount of row crossing it can be played quite smoothly.

It's not as hard as it appears, but it does need a little planning of the fingering.   
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 30, 2009, 05:07:07 PM
It can also go up into the dusty end in G.

X:1
T:Ashokan Farewell
C:Jay Ungar
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
(d<f) | g3 f e/2d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | b3 c' b2 | a4 d<f |
g3 f e<d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | d2 f2 a2 | g4 B<c |
d3 B G2 | g4 d2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B2 B<A |
B3 A G2 | E4 G2 | D6 | d4 BG |
G2 B2 d2 | =f4 f2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B3 G |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 B2 A3 D F2 | G6 ||
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 31, 2009, 10:05:32 AM
come on only 2 more votes for oranges in bloom to get it to the winning post.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on December 31, 2009, 12:16:31 PM
Unfortunately you can only vote once  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 31, 2009, 12:17:46 PM
Unfortunately you can only vote once  ;D
but you can change your vote
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 31, 2009, 12:35:47 PM
Since a tied vote or something very close to it appears to be the likely outcome of the January Tune of the Month poll, why not have two tunes of the month for January? That would enable people to chose which one to record or to record renditions of both if they wish.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on December 31, 2009, 01:43:20 PM
Unfortunately you can only vote once  ;D
but you can change your vote
That won't do any good, I already voted for Orange in Bloom.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Kautilya on December 31, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
Jesu joy of man's desiring
This deserves it for its simplicity and suitability for so many solo and group efforts

Been chasing various music for this for a month or more so tks for ABC

Another score with some tips for learning right hand and chords
the pdf icon gives a 'bigger' view

http://gardenofpraise.com/key21q.htm

the nearest to "button" box I have found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG70Ulu_X-M

It really should be sung along with so that you feel how it soars, though u may need shoulder straps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPeVIuRjUi4&feature=PlayList&p=1B809AB5F7909B97&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=70

here's a homely concertina version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lNZhYKpAb8

it really is a tune for all instruments together so if you want to accompany a harmonica player that is also available on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVKABP-pYPA

and for the really talented radicals  it offers considerable floral possibilities in accompaniment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAy3hBTU32s








Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on December 31, 2009, 03:52:32 PM
Lets march into 2010 with the

Centenary March

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bly7aPtgC-c

Should please everyone.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GbH on December 31, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
Unfortunately you can only vote once  ;D
but you can change your vote
That won't do any good, I already voted for Orange in Bloom.

Yes it will - you could change it to Ashokan Farewell and put it back in the lead again.  Please.   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 31, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
GBH I'll send the heavies round.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: brianread on December 31, 2009, 09:04:54 PM
How about getting all the people who didn't vote for AF or OIB to cast their vote one way or another?

<nails colours to mast> I'd prefer AF </nails colours to mast>
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 31, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
I wonder how much a vote might be worth to one camp or the other ???


(Only joking ;))






.......or am I  ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on December 31, 2009, 11:28:44 PM
Too late now. Sorry.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 31, 2009, 11:33:18 PM
Who won I can't view the results?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on December 31, 2009, 11:36:48 PM
Who won I can't view the results?

Ashokan farewell 22 to 19
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on December 31, 2009, 11:46:26 PM
No reply from Jay Ungar yet - perhaps he is away from home for the New Year. However, judging from his generousity in providing me with the musical notation and giving me permission to share it, I would be surprised if he objected to our using Ashokan Farewell. If I have heard nothing from him tomorrow, I could e-mail him again explaining that we are going ahead but that we will remove our videos from YouTube if he has any objections to our use his tune.

Incidentally, I don't remember us asking Maxou Heintzen for permission before we used L'Inconnu de Limoise.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on December 31, 2009, 11:48:17 PM
Waves fist at screen a la Blakey from on the buses.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 01, 2010, 12:01:15 AM
Incidentally, I don't remember us asking Maxou Heintzen for permission before we used L'Inconnu de Limoise.

Oh! yes we did - http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.msg33067.html#msg33067 (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.msg33067.html#msg33067) well at least Clive did.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: juker on January 01, 2010, 12:29:52 AM
Who won I can't view the results?

Ashokan farewell 22 to 19

Okay, well there is no shirking from the challenge! *sighs deeply*
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 01, 2010, 01:38:13 AM
Since a tied vote or something very close to it appears to be the likely outcome of the January Tune of the Month poll, why not have two tunes of the month for January? That would enable people to chose which one to record or to record renditions of both if they wish.

Hi Bob - 'twas seriously tempted by your idea, and if it had been a tie or near tie, I may have gone for it... but the editorial fountain pen decided that TOTM should encourage people to try things they haven't tried before... so Ashokan gets it this time.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: theSmoiler on January 01, 2010, 11:11:39 AM
Juker and LDT, AF isn't my choice of a 'melodeon' tune either....

But, it does crop up very regularly in Sessions, so it is at least worth learning to pick out the melody on the right hand (as I do - the beauty of playing an Oakwood is that the reeds can be made to do quite nice things, even in this mode), rather than having to 'just sit there'. It is popular with fiddlers and bluegrass players, and, if not started by someone partcipating in a Session (eg if it's an English trad Session), then very often it gets requested by someone in the audience - so then someone like Flos Headford will play it to oblige.

However...I have heard some very cringe-making mandolin versions - which have led me to dislike the tune ie with loads of 'tremolo' or 'vibrato', or whatever they do to it! and some very screechy, waily fiddle versions! like LIDL, it is often spoilt when played 'en masse' IMO, rather than as a solo or small - practised - ensemble piece.

Diane
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: juker on January 02, 2010, 04:28:32 AM
Thanks Dianne, actually I have picked the melody out and it isn't as difficult as I expected and it IS a beautiful piece of music. I expected PR to be a relative doddle (compared to LIDL) but quite struggled with it so maybe this won't be so hard! Thanks for the encouragement  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Andy Next Tune on January 03, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
Does Orange in Bloom go through to the play-off in february?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 03, 2010, 11:05:15 PM
Does Orange in Bloom go through to the play-off in february?

Yep - in general if there's a tune that comes 2nd and beats other tunes by a large margin, that tune gets through to the next poll, and the other tunes it ran against don't appear until it either wins or stops coming 2nd...

That doesn't make a lot of sense written down I know, but it kind of does if you can figure out what I mean. Anyway, quick answer... yes.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: forrest on January 05, 2010, 06:41:40 PM
Would anyone consider having a month where we could propose our favorite tune by T. O'Carolan? Very many of his tunes fit quite well on the box and there are several that would be good material for beginners, as well as more experienced players......... :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 05, 2010, 07:37:54 PM
Would anyone consider having a month where we could propose our favorite tune by T. O'Carolan? Very many of his tunes fit quite well on the box and there are several that would be good material for beginners, as well as more experienced players......... :||:

I do like the idea of a 'theme of the month' running alongside 'tune of the month', rather like we did last month with the Christmas tunes... this would make a very nice theme. What do people think of a 'theme of the month' concept? Any thoughts of other themes we might consider?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 05, 2010, 08:05:29 PM
I like the idea of a theme, gives an oppertunity to have a go if you are bamboozled by main tune. (What about a nautical theme or as ive noticed several mentions in other threads what about playford tunes)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: theSmoiler on January 05, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
Would anyone consider having a month where we could propose our favorite tune by T. O'Carolan? Very many of his tunes fit quite well on the box and there are several that would be good material for beginners, as well as more experienced players......... :||:

I would certainly second the idea of having a 'theme' running alongside the main TOTM - and O'Carolan, as above, is an excellent suggestion (eg the Draught and Concerto are certainly wonderful tunes - and just playing on the melody side, will present a challenge, and do them justice). This would give a lot more choice and scope in what is otherwise a good underlying cocept - it's just that I feel the current TOTM series has got rather stuck in a rut of somewhat hackneyed 'popular' tunes heard in sessions throughout England, which may tend to limit general appeal and inclusivity. Whereas, there are just so many great tunes out there, from all different traditions, etc. - which have been under-represented in the polls so far.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 05, 2010, 11:02:42 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me. I vote Morris tunes for May!  ;D :M :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on January 06, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me. I vote Morris tunes for May!  ;D :M :||:

Seconded :D Playford for February, Quebecois for March, Norwegian for April...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 06, 2010, 02:56:28 PM
Sounds like a great idea to me. I vote Morris tunes for May!  ;D :M :||:

Seconded :D Playford for February, Quebecois for March, Norwegian for April...
Nautical for June....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Rob2Hook on January 06, 2010, 04:17:24 PM

Nautical for June....
[/quote]
So you reckon to have Trade Wind Hornpipe pretty slick by June, eh?   ;D  There doesn't seem to be any genuine connection between hornpipes and sailors outside of operetta, but most have a nautical title.  Certainly if you tried dancing a hornpipe on my boat you'd deserve it when you trip over the guardrails. 
Don't mind the crew playing hornpipes aboard, though.  Beats the c##p out of some dirge like shanty...

Mind you, there isn't much connection between swimming and sailors either.  The exception was a crew on one of the J class yachts (pre-war aristocracy) - a family of fishermen who were paid off once the boat was on the final leg and would jump ship and swim ashore, reducing the weight of the yacht.  The racing rules now require the boat to start and finish with all crew aboard!

Rob.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 15, 2010, 10:57:00 PM
Quote
Nautical for June....
So you reckon to have Trade Wind Hornpipe pretty slick by June, eh?   ;D  There doesn't seem to be any genuine connection between hornpipes and sailors outside of operetta, but most have a nautical title.  Certainly if you tried dancing a hornpipe on my boat you'd deserve it when you trip over the guardrails. 
Aye, aye Cap'n  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 15, 2010, 11:14:39 PM
We missed out May  ???

Long ago I ran the first week of May evening at my University folk club as "anything you like as long is it has some connection (or reference) however vague to May". So that might work a a theme - it worked just champion the first time through.

   Personally it'd be Bert Lloyd's "Bonny Black Hare" A tune perhaps never yet attempted on melodeon ....

PS Whoops - just spotted Ollie. Above still on offer nevertheless as Morris was is technically associated with Whit, and was discovered on Boxing Day
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 21, 2010, 01:12:01 PM
All the talk of custard in the other thread made me think....What about a food theme?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 22, 2010, 06:39:08 AM
I think a jig would be good for February, we've had 4/4 and 3/4 (I just noticed that Clive's LIDL abc was 9/8 :o, mine wasn't :|bl) and I really must get to grips with a jig!

Louise
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 22, 2010, 08:33:03 AM
I really must get to grips with a jig!

This is a good one, The Tongs by the Fire.

X:19
T:The Tongs By The Fire
M:6/8
L:1/8
R:jig
K:G
|: GBd cAF | Gge dBG | cec BdB | ABG FED |
GBd cAF | Gge dBG | cec Bag |1 fef g2D :|2 fef g3 |
|:gdB gdB | gfa gdB | gfg eag | fd^c def |
gag fgf | efe def | gdB AGA |1 BGF G3 :|2 BGF G3 ||

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on January 22, 2010, 09:23:41 AM
I hope Orange in Bloom will be there. I also wouldn't mind a jig. (The Plane Tree springs to mind.)

cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 22, 2010, 09:40:14 AM
I hope Orange in Bloom will be there.

Don't worry - it'll be on the next poll. Not sure what else will be on it yet though - have to have a little think.

I also wouldn't mind a jig. (The Plane Tree springs to mind.)

Added to the nominations list - thanks for the idea!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 22, 2010, 11:08:15 AM
Welsh tunes for a theme of the month, please.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: OwenG on January 22, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Welsh tunes for a theme of the month, please.

Shouldn't it be Welsh tunes in March?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 22, 2010, 12:30:30 PM
Welsh tunes for a theme of the month, please.

Shouldn't it be Welsh tunes in March?

Or March tune is Welsh   :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 22, 2010, 12:53:47 PM
Welsh tunes for a theme of the month, please.
Shouldn't it be Welsh tunes in March?
Or March tune is Welsh   :P

Surely there's some way we can satisfy everone - including Sandy's penchant for a Jig? What about ..

 "Trip to Bishop's Castle"?
 "Trip to Chepstow "?
   "Trip to Craven Arms"
"Trip to Hereford"
  "Trip to Ludlow"
   "Trip to Shrewsbury"
"Trip to Whitchurch"
   I'm sure there are others  ... ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on January 22, 2010, 01:02:15 PM
trip to concertina .net ? :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 25, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
Hmm...two more themes to suggest
Food & Drink
Travel
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on January 25, 2010, 09:43:37 AM
March is 'melodeons and more' so should it be an East Anglian tune?
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 25, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
March is 'melodeons and more' so should it be an East Anglian tune?
 (:)

That would be cool.... ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 25, 2010, 11:23:08 AM
March is 'melodeons and more' so should it be an East Anglian tune? (:)

One town is a thin connection. The "Welsh Marches" are surely more extensive ...

"Trip to Bishop's Castle"  "Trip to Craven Arms"    "Trip to Ludlow"    "Trip to Shrewsbury"  ;D "  

OK, they'd actually be jigs. You win  ;) To add topicality, the EATMT anual bunfight and barbeque will be that month  :|glug
Hmmm...I've re-read your replies several times...and am still befuddled. The answers seem to have been put with a different quote to which to me look like they should be put with?
Have you been  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on January 25, 2010, 11:33:15 AM
...and there will be a Welsh connection to the East Anglian tunes in Mendlesham in March  :||:
You can kill two birds with one stone  ::)

cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 25, 2010, 11:42:54 AM
I was just wondering if February's theme is o'carolan tunes...couldn't someone technically just do princess royal again? :P lol!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: OwenG on January 25, 2010, 12:19:30 PM
March is 'melodeons and more' so should it be an East Anglian tune? (:)

One town is a thin connection. The "Welsh Marches" are surely more extensive ...

Hmmm...I've re-read your replies several times...and am still befuddled. The answers seem to have been put with a different quote to which to me look like they should be put with?
Have you been  :|glug

In Cambridge there is a March March March. There are more details here (http://people.bath.ac.uk/masgks/march.html). Does that help?  ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on January 25, 2010, 03:45:15 PM
March is 'melodeons and more' so should it be an East Anglian tune? (:)

One town is a thin connection. The "Welsh Marches" are surely more extensive ...

Hmmm...I've re-read your replies several times...and am still befuddled. The answers seem to have been put with a different quote to which to me look like they should be put with?
Have you been  :|glug

In Cambridge there is a March March March. There are more details here (http://people.bath.ac.uk/masgks/march.html). Does that help?  ???

Isn't that what they say in Northern Ireland. January, February, March, March, March ! :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 25, 2010, 05:54:21 PM
...and there will be a Welsh connection to the East Anglian tunes in Mendlesham in March  :||: You can kill two birds with one stone  ::) cheers  Sandy  (:)

One is sorely tempted on occasion ...

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=march&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=March,+Cambridgeshire,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.452662,0.002747&spn=0.60927,1.120605&t=h&z=10

For the "Welsh Marches" please refer to Rees, who lives there ....  :Ph
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 25, 2010, 10:24:34 PM

In Cambridge there is a March March March. There are more details here (http://people.bath.ac.uk/masgks/march.html). Does that help?  ???

Sorry to go off topic (again  :|bl) but I've lived in Cambridge all my life (OK, its not a very long life, but still) and I never knew that existed!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on January 26, 2010, 03:02:36 AM

In Cambridge there is a March March March. There are more details here (http://people.bath.ac.uk/masgks/march.html). Does that help?  ???

Sorry to go off topic (again  :|bl) but I've lived in Cambridge all my life (OK, its not a very long life, but still) and I never knew that existed!

I didn't know about it either, sounds good fun!

Everyone should obviously vote for Chassepain or Orange in Bloom this month.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 26, 2010, 10:13:26 AM
OK - here's a bit of blatant canvassing for Machynlleth for February ToTM.
It's a Welsh tune - a cracker - and Welsh tunes deserve to be more widely known and played, if only so you can feel more at home when visiting a pub session west of Offa's Dyke (Clawdd Offa - that's another great tune!)

Machynlleth is a fine introduction to the genre. I included it in a Welsh tunes workshop at EATMT Melodeons and More a few years ago and it proved popular then, and have had an (unofficial) request to run another Welsh tunes workshop. There seems to be a definite association occurrin' between Wales and East Anglia as far as learning  melodeon tunes is concerned.

Machynlleth is not too difficult in general, although the B-music offers a tricky little challenge for crisp fingering. I was playing it within a few months of taking up the melodeon so it is definitely suitable for beginner-intermediate levels.

If you want to know how to say it, it is pronounced "mach-UN-lleth", where the 'ch' is as in Scottish 'loch' and the Welsh double 'll' is sounded by putting your tongue on the ridge behind your top teeth, as for a normal 'l', but hissing around the sides of your tongue at the same time. The stress is on the second syllable, the 'UN' sound being similar to southern English 'un' as in 'run'. The 'th' at the end is pronounced as in thick.

Go on - have a go!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 26, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
If you want to know how to say it, it is pronounced "mach-UN-lleth", where the 'ch' is as in Scottish 'loch' and the Welsh double 'll' is sounded by putting your tongue on the ridge behind your top teeth, as for a normal 'l', but hissing around the sides of your tongue at the same time. The stress is on the second syllable, the 'UN' sound being similar to southern English 'un' as in 'run'. The 'th' at the end is pronounced as in thick.
Woo! I guessed right. :)


Maybe there needs to be a canvassing thread? ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on January 26, 2010, 12:46:36 PM
OK - here's a bit of blatant canvassing for Machynlleth for February ToTM.
It's a Welsh tune - a cracker - and Welsh tunes deserve to be more widely known and played, if only so you can feel more at home when visiting a pub session west of Offa's Dyke (Clawdd Offa - that's another great tune!)

Machynlleth is a fine introduction to the genre. I included it in a Welsh tunes workshop at EATMT Melodeons and More a few years ago and it proved popular then, and have had an (unofficial) request to run another Welsh tunes workshop. There seems to be a definite association occurrin' between Wales and East Anglia as far as learning  melodeon tunes is concerned.

Machynlleth is not too difficult in general, although the B-music offers a tricky little challenge for crisp fingering. I was playing it within a few months of taking up the melodeon so it is definitely suitable for beginner-intermediate levels.

If you want to know how to say it, it is pronounced "mach-UN-lleth", where the 'ch' is as in Scottish 'loch' and the Welsh double 'll' is sounded by putting your tongue on the ridge behind your top teeth, as for a normal 'l', but hissing around the sides of your tongue at the same time. The stress is on the second syllable, the 'UN' sound being similar to southern English 'un' as in 'run'. The 'th' at the end is pronounced as in thick.

Go on - have a go!

Not knowing this tune, I looked it up on JC's tune finder, and found a two part and a three part version. A two part version without the arpeggio-like middle part gets played around here a lot. I didn't know what it is called. Which version do you mean?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 26, 2010, 01:00:46 PM
Not knowing this tune, I looked it up on JC's tune finder, and found a two part and a three part version. A two part version without the arpeggio-like middle part gets played around here a lot. I didn't know what it is called. Which version do you mean?
The traditional Welsh four-part version is the one which is commonly played and is given earlier down this thread (23rd December).
Here's an audio file (played a touch on the fast side, sorry) ....
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550
....and here's the ABC again:

X:1
T:Machynlleth
M:2/4
L:1/16
Q:1/4=106
C:Welsh Traditional
R:Processional
K:G
P:A
|: dedc BcBA | G2G2 G2AB | c2A2 A2A2 | c2A2 A2Bc |
dedc BcBA | G2G2 G2AB | c2A2 G2F2 | G4 G4 :|
P:B
|: FAcA FAcA | GBdB GBdB | FAcA FAcA | FAcA GBdg |
e2e2 e2g2 | d2d2 d2g2 | d2c2 B2A2 | G4 G4 :|
P:C
|: d3e d2c2 | B4 B2c2 | d3g f2e2 | e2d2 d4 |
d3e d2c2 | B4 B2d2 | c2A2 G2F2 | G4 G4 :|
P:D
|: A2AB c2A2 | Bcde d4 | A2AB c2A2 | Bcde d4 |
e2e2 e2g2 | d2d2 d2g2 | d2c2 B2A2 | G4 G4 :|
W:
W:Learned from the playing of Bill Nichols and Dawnswyr Talog, Carmarthen 1984.
W:Also in 'Blodau'r Grug - 100 Popular Welsh Folk Dance Tunes',
W:published by The Welsh Folk Dance Society.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on January 26, 2010, 01:13:35 PM
Thanks for that. I did look for it on here, but didn't find the earlier post. Correcting what I said earlier, a three part version gets played around here, without the B part. I only had it by ear from local sessions up till now.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 26, 2010, 02:10:15 PM
If you want to know how to say it, it is pronounced "mach-UN-lleth", where the 'ch' is as in Scottish 'loch' and the Welsh double 'll' is sounded by putting your tongue on the ridge behind your top teeth, as for a normal 'l', but hissing around the sides of your tongue at the same time. The stress is on the second syllable, the 'UN' sound being similar to southern English 'un' as in 'run'. The 'th' at the end is pronounced as in thick.


 .. too much detail  >:E  I'm still recovering from an Irish translation of Air Lingus.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 26, 2010, 02:46:18 PM
For tune of the month can I nominate cock of the north...mainly because I'd like to see what everyone does different with the tune. Plus its one of those tunes I go to peices on if I add in the LH.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on January 27, 2010, 10:38:52 AM

If you want to know how to say it, it is pronounced "mach-UN-lleth", ....


Here's an audio file (played a touch on the fast side, sorry) ....
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550


Ok, so any ideas anyone about how do you pronounce 'onmvoice'? ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on January 28, 2010, 06:42:55 AM
Looks like Orange and Bloom then.

Could we have a tune that uses more than  4 buttons please :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 28, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Looks like Orange and Bloom then. Could we have a tune that uses more than  4 buttons please :|glug

Oh ... but it does  >:E

I'm quite taken by Steve's 'down the valleys' tune, and didn't think the mpg was too fast at all. Basically much of Machynlleth slips in 2 notes where other melodies play just one, which makes it sound fast. But that's music and they do join together rather well. Any mostly sound adjacent butons (I've not had a go yet). It's not that much more demanding than StP and might be a worthy next 'st(e)p'.  OK there are 4 parts to learn but 3/4 are basically variations on 1/2  - and are traditional (it says here) :|glug

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550  - nice arrangement! :D  I love that drone .....

Ok, so any ideas anyone about how do you pronounce 'onmvoice'? ???

Dunno - the Georgians make wine in a Kvevri - we could ask them (I doubt it's Welsh)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 28, 2010, 08:43:52 AM
I'm quite taken by Steve's 'down the valleys' tune, and didn't think the mpg was too fast at all....
.
.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11550  - nice arrangement! :D  I love that drone .....
Thanks Chris!  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 08:52:36 AM
It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2010, 08:54:11 AM
It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz

(a) is subjective but Orange in Bloom is not a waltz thus fulfilling (b)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 09:03:38 AM
It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz

(a) is subjective but Orange in Bloom is not a waltz thus fulfilling (b)
What is it then...haven't seen it written down or heard it properly before.

Why is there two names up? Orange in bloom and sherborne waltz?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 28, 2010, 09:11:48 AM
What is it then...haven't seen it written down or heard it properly before.

Why are there two names up? Orange in Bloom and Sherborne Waltz?

As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 28, 2010, 09:16:41 AM
It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz

(a) is subjective but Orange in Bloom is not a waltz thus fulfilling (b)
What is it then...haven't seen it written down or heard it properly before.

Why is there two names up? Orange in bloom and sherborne waltz?

Well. Orange in Bloom is probably played most often in sessions as a waltz, but originally it wasn't - it's a slow jig used for morris. Here's a version picked off youtube at random, used for dancing and played as a jig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q

Now... sometime in the 70's/80's (I think, someone may correct me on this - this is from memory, and I've no idea where I heard this), Rod Stradling thought that if he slowed it down a bit, and change the time signature, and hey presto, it's a lovely waltz. This he called 'The Sherbourne Waltz' (Orange in Bloom being a Sherbourne tradition tune). Here's a lovely guitar version of it I've just found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdM5Obgxo0

So it's all about time signatures. Most people call the tune Orange in Bloom even when played as a waltz. It's a very flexible tune, capable of being played in many styles so (in my opinion) makes a great TOTM nomination.

Cheers,

Clive

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
What is it then...haven't seen it written down or heard it properly before.

Why are there two names up? Orange in Bloom and Sherborne Waltz?

As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.
What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 28, 2010, 09:19:27 AM

What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?

There's so many other ways we could play it! Perhaps I feel a 5/4 version coming on!  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2010, 09:20:46 AM
What is it then...haven't seen it written down or heard it properly before.

Why are there two names up? Orange in Bloom and Sherborne Waltz?

As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.
What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?

The tunes won't mind!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2010, 09:30:54 AM
For clarity the ABCs for the two variants below. Not only is OiB in 6/8 but it has a C part that is partly in 4/4.

X: 1
T:Orange in Bloom
M:6/8
K:G
D | EGE DGA | BdB A2B | GEE DGA | BGG G2 D |
EGE DGA | BdB A2B | GEE DGA | BGG G3 ||
BAB/2c/2 d2B | AGA Bcd | edB AGA | BAG E2D |
EGE DGA | BdB A2B | GEE DGA | B2G G3 ||
M:4/4
L:1/8
BABc d2B2 |AGA2  Bcd2|edB2  AGA2 |BAG2  E3D|
M:6/8
E>GE D<GA |B<dB  A2B |G>EE  D<GA |B<GG  G3||

X: 1
T:Sherborne Waltz
M:3/4
K:G
D|E>GE|DGA|BdB|A2B/A/|GFE|DGA|BGG|G2 D|
E>GE|DGA|BdB|A2B/A/|GFE|DGA|BGG|G3||
B>AB/c/|dcB|AGA|Bcd|edB|AGA|BAG|E2D|
EGE|DGA|BdB|A2B/A/|GFE|DGA|BGG|G3||
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 09:31:15 AM

What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?

There's so many other ways we could play it! Perhaps I feel a 5/4 version coming on!  >:E
I never understand how that works how you can change it. (and what your supposed to do with LH) But then I find it very hard to understand music anyway.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 28, 2010, 09:34:59 AM
As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q) shows that some sides play and dance it faster. Chacun à son goût!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2010, 09:44:58 AM
As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q) shows that some sides play and dance it faster. Chacun à son goût!
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 28, 2010, 09:50:14 AM
Goodness me! Talk about making things complicated!  ;)
Just stick with Machynlleth and you'll have no bother.  ;D
(PS - Sarah, it's a happy tune and it's not a waltz)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 09:58:59 AM
Goodness me! Talk about making things complicated!  ;)

I sometimes wonder if I should keep a copy of all the bits of advice thrown up by the TOTM. Would make a great Advanced Beginner tutor book.

Just stick with Machynlleth and you'll have no bother.  ;D
except getting your teeth round the name ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 28, 2010, 12:02:14 PM
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

Yes, we also do the kick capers to a different speed (and a slightly different rhythm) to the uprights. Unlike many teams, we only slow down the third and fourth bars for the uprights. Vive la diversité!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 01:09:42 PM
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

Yes, we also do the kick capers to a different speed (and a slightly different rhythm) to the uprights. Unlike many teams, we only slow down the third and fourth bars for the uprights. Vive la diversité!
I know that's written in english but I don't understand a word. lol
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on January 28, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q) shows that some sides play and dance it faster. Chacun à son goût!
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

We do the whole dance slower than the Chanctonbury Ring but as with you, one slow is faster than the other. And obviously we do the proper hand movements, i.e. Down, up, high circles, down. Or whatever that is in Black Book shorthand.

And I'm never really sure of which is which out of the uprights and the kick capers. The one which we do faster is the Right, left heel, right spring, left etc. The one which we do slower is the right cross, left cross, jump-and-try-to-do-the-splits.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 28, 2010, 02:07:15 PM
What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?
...
It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz

Play it any way you choose, dear Lady. The beauty of TOTM is that it isn't prescriptive in any way other than the elected tune. O&B in the style of Teddy Bear's Picnic would be most welcome. One could even add a third name. (Paddington somehow seems appropriate)?  :|glug

I'm thinking dark thoughts about Orange 'n Blues  >:E

except getting your teeth round the name ;)

Teeth!  :o
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 28, 2010, 02:07:30 PM
As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q) shows that some sides play and dance it faster. Chacun à son goût!
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

We do the whole dance slower than the Chanctonbury Ring but as with you, one slow is faster than the other. And obviously we do the proper hand movements, i.e. Down, up, high circles, down. Or whatever that is in Black Book shorthand.

And I'm never really sure of which is which out of the uprights and the kick capers. The one which we do faster is the Right, left heel, right spring, left etc. The one which we do slower is the right cross, left cross, jump-and-try-to-do-the-splits.

I think that is the speed John is aiming for, but for me, its a bit too fast. Ah yes, the hand movements... technically, there is no correct way. When the tradition was collected, the collector was told "higher and higher" but he didn't bother to ask the old bloke what he meant! The high circles are CMMs interpretation of that. Personally, I think it looks better that way, and really differentiates it from other traditions, but most teams just do down, up, down up, rather than down, up, high circle, high circle. At the Jigs weekend, I was taught something completely different which just looked rather silly!

Kicks come first, then uprights.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on January 28, 2010, 02:13:04 PM
I think that is the speed John is aiming for, but for me, its a bit too fast. Ah yes, the hand movements... technically, there is no correct way. When the tradition was collected, the collector was told "higher and higher" but he didn't bother to ask the old bloke what he meant! The high circles are CMMs interpretation of that. Personally, I think it looks better that way, and really differentiates it from other traditions, but most teams just do down, up, down up, rather than down, up, high circle, high circle. At the Jigs weekend, I was taught something completely different which just looked rather silly!

Kicks come first, then uprights.

I was watching that and thinking that it would be a bit too fast for me as well. John may well be aiming for that speed, he insisted that we do Cuckoo's Nest that sort of speed when I was playing it. Then again, when Liz was playing it on Tuesday it was if anything a bit slow.

And yes, my use of proper was very much tongue in cheek ;D I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
<snip>I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.

But you would wouldn't you!   ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on January 29, 2010, 01:08:12 AM
<snip>I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.

But you would wouldn't you!   ::)

Well yes of course, albeit only partly because I'm right ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on February 01, 2010, 11:41:22 AM
Since it came a respectable second in February's poll, I hope that The Plane Tree will be carried forward into March's poll.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on February 02, 2010, 09:00:39 AM
Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE (first tune thereof, thanks to Thomas)

btw: Does anyone recognise that yummy mazurka at 4:22? It must be a Stéphane Delique(??) But what is it ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 02, 2010, 09:15:10 AM
Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE (first tune thereof, thanks to Thomas)

btw: Does anyone recognise that yummy mazurka at 4:22? It must be a Stéphane Delique(??) But what is it ???

There's some lovely tunes there aren't there? I think I'll have a go at that Bruno le Tron one - never heard it before. Can't help with the mazurka, but if it's Stephane Delicq, I don't think he has recorded it.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on February 02, 2010, 10:29:25 AM
Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE (first tune thereof, thanks to Thomas)

btw: Does anyone recognise that yummy mazurka at 4:22? It must be a Stéphane Delique(??) But what is it ???

Do you have the notes or ABC as it would be a non-starter for me without them, and I may not be on my own.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on February 02, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 02, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on February 02, 2010, 03:27:27 PM
I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

Cheers,

Clive

Skirmish is a fairly generic title for "made up" morris dances with much the same stick hitting us figures from your tradition de jour. As to the tunes name I can be of no help.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 02, 2010, 03:29:13 PM

Skirmish is a fairly generic title for "made up" morris dances with much the same stick hitting us figures from your tradition de jour. As to the tunes name I can be of no help.

Ah, answered my own question. From Nick's website, where he's thoughtfully put music up of his compositions (there's a lot!), as ukebert says, it's Skirmish. Nick's Maggot is a completely different tune.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 02, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose use to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Seconded a billion times over! I LOVE this tune, but mainly play it on the fiddle, so this would give me the prerogative to work out a decent arrangement on the box. It's a fantastic tune to dance to, so much better than British Grenadiers or Lily Bolero, two other tunes that I've danced said dance to.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on February 03, 2010, 01:15:57 AM
I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

Cheers,

Clive

Well I thought it was called Nick's Maggot, but if you go to Nick's website it's under Skirmish. So I suppose he gets the final say. If it wins this might be one to email about, although I am sure that Nick wouldn't mind us using it in the slightest. I've done workshops with him before and he seemed perfectly happy for people to use his tunes if they acknowledged him. On his website he also says "Please feel free to play these tunes, perform them, use them how you want. Send me your comments, or recordings, and I will add them to the website."

http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~ear6nb/md/22details.htm

It is also one of the tunes that he has marked as "might be good" :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on February 07, 2010, 02:56:32 PM
Can I suggest Gardener's Delight for TOTM
http://www.concertina.net/tunes_detail.html?rec_id=1388
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on February 19, 2010, 06:00:24 PM
Can I also nominate 'you are my sunshine'
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gandy on February 19, 2010, 08:49:07 PM
Can I also nominate 'you are my sunshine'
Seconded
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Scallyanglo on February 23, 2010, 12:45:15 PM
Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE (first tune thereof, thanks to Thomas)

Do you have the notes or ABC as it would be a non-starter for me without them, and I may not be on my own.

Sorry - I may have missed them, but do we have any dots/ABC as would probably vote for V'la if so!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 09, 2010, 12:06:02 PM
Here's a suggestion for a theme 'beginners choice'.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 09, 2010, 02:02:58 PM
Here's a suggestion for a theme 'beginners choice'.

Yes... but I'm a bit confused about what that actually means! :D  Can you name some tunes that would qualify?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 09, 2010, 02:07:05 PM
Here's a suggestion for a theme 'beginners choice'.

Yes... but I'm a bit confused about what that actually means! :D  Can you name some tunes that would qualify?
It would be the first tune you learnt properly on melodeon. My case I think that was bobbie shaftoe.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 09, 2010, 02:08:06 PM
Here's a suggestion for a theme 'beginners choice'.

Yes... but I'm a bit confused about what that actually means! :D  Can you name some tunes that would qualify?
It would be the first tune you learnt properly on melodeon. My case I think that was bobbie shaftoe.


Heh heh - nice thought! Rattling Bog for me!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 09, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
Here's a suggestion for a theme 'beginners choice'.

Yes... but I'm a bit confused about what that actually means! :D  Can you name some tunes that would qualify?
It would be the first tune you learnt properly on melodeon. My case I think that was bobbie shaftoe.


Heh heh - nice thought! Rattling Bog for me!
I'd be really intrigued to see what people started with...especially the more advanced.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 09, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Transplanted ....

... I had the idea that if you number the notes of a scale from 1 to 9 what sort of tune would appear. I know that there are only 7 different notes so two notes appear twice. So, in G it will be from G to A an octave up. Most of what I've tried so far has been rubbish but some interesting melodies are appearing. There is some leeway in that the length of the note can vary. It also has the benefit of keeping the tune compact and within most peoples singing range. Could tunes written this way even find a home in Theme for the month? ...

Theme of tunes based on our phone numbers or in internet numeric addresses?  fwiw Simon Jeffes's 'Cage dead' written soon after John Cage's funeral starts with the notes ..  (you can work it out).

btw mine was Waltzing Mathilda - a daughter of same name was still 'in arms' at the time :|glug  And hence my 'Tilly' reference to Gavin.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on March 10, 2010, 01:09:33 AM
It would be the first tune you learnt properly on melodeon. My case I think that was bobbie shaftoe.


Mine too ;D And I think that it is a very good idea for a theme (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on March 10, 2010, 03:21:18 PM
Some of us are so forgetful that we haven't the faintest idea about which tune we learnt first.   :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: zubz on March 10, 2010, 03:31:26 PM
I don't know if this is the place to suggest this idea:

how about a thread for "Tunes that go well together"?

I've just posted a TOTM contribution, and I added another schottische piece to it because I enjoy playing them together.
I, for one, would very much like to hear others' views of tunes that complement each other well.

Would that be worthwhile for anyone else?

Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 10, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
Won't be in there. I think the mudley medley is the curse of creative music.
Surely so much better to do different things with the tune in hand  ;)

  Of course many others differ ...


[edit] Tee hee! A thread under 'Tune Drift' would be quite apposite  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 11, 2010, 09:43:10 AM
how about a thread for "Tunes that go well together"?

Thanks for the idea - I think posting medleys in any Theme of the Month is fine, but I'd say this thought is probably too broad a topic for a theme in its own right...

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: zubz on March 11, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
Fair enough ... I can see it being very broad, so I take your point.
Perhaps a broad thread in its own right (under "General Discussions" rather than under TOTM grouping), along the lines of "Thread Drift"?

Chris
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellie on March 11, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
Some of us are so forgetful that we haven't the faintest idea about which tune we learnt first.   :|bl

Snap - and in my case it was only 2 years ago!  ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 11, 2010, 01:19:29 PM
Some of us are so forgetful that we haven't the faintest idea about which tune we learnt first.   :|bl

Snap - and in my case it was only 2 years ago!  ::)
Maybe the furthest one back you can remember? ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 13, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
I'd like to suggest Battle of the Somme, its such a beautiful tune and works fantastically on the box.

Here is a sublime version (the tune at the beginning, not the song) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS8oF1XxCmc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: theSmoiler on March 13, 2010, 11:21:43 PM
I'd like to suggest Battle of the Somme, its such a beautiful tune and works fantastically on the box.


Ah ha, the theme tune from Sidmouth-en-Somme, 2009! (I still have the scar from the trench-foot I acquired...).

Diane
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Andy Next Tune on March 14, 2010, 05:03:08 PM
Some of us are so forgetful that we haven't the faintest idea about which tune we learnt first.   :|bl

Snap - and in my case it was only 2 years ago!  ::)
Maybe the furthest one back you can remember? ;)
Winster Gallop methinks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 15, 2010, 08:52:28 AM
It's also time for something up tempo and English IMHO  :|glug
Good idea Chris.
How about Redowa Polka from Sussex (Michael Turner's MS)? It's a cracking three-parter and one of my favourites.
I learnt it from the playing of dear departed Barry Callaghan (of 'Hardcore English' fame). We played it together in many a pub session.
Here's an ABC version just slightly modified from the Lewes Arms tunebook collection.
Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Redowa Polka
C:Michael Turner's MS
M:2/2
L:1/8
Q:1/2=102
K:G
P:A
|: GB d2 d2 d2 | dedc B2 B2 | GA B2 GA B2 | B2 A2 A4 |
AB c2 c2 c2 | cdcB A2 A2 | FG A2 FG A2 | A2 G2 G4 :|
P:B
|: GB d2 g2 d2 |d2 c2 cB c2 | FA c2 f2 e2 | e2 d2 d^c d2 |
GB d2 g2 d2 | d2 c2 cB c2 | FA c2 f2 e2 | d2 ef g4 :|
P:C
|: G2 Bc BcBc | A2 ^cd cdcd | B2 G2 A2 B2 | c2 e2 a2 g2 |
G2 Bc BcBc | A2 ^cd cdcd | B2 G2 A2 B2| c4 c4 :|

Also here's a Youtube version - just a bit too quick for my liking, but it has plenty of energy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvScq9uEMrg
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 15, 2010, 08:54:18 AM
Revisitation of Skirmish -
I have just posted a YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCD4JLAYkQI) of Skirmish being played by Nick Barber (the composer) for White Rose Morris (for whom it was written) last Saturday.

As definitive a version as you could get, interestingly different from the written version, but I well know how that happens.

As for the "Nick's Maggot" title, I'm afraid I missed the opportunity to ask him about it yesterday.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: theSmoiler on March 15, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
How about Redowa Polka from Sussex (Michael Turner's MS)? It's a cracking three-parter and one of my favourites.

As long as dissemination through TOTM does nothing to reinforce that dreadful 'Franglais' (for want of a better word) effect, Steve! ie where the B part of one tune begins to get mixed up with the B part of another and, slowly, insidiously, starts to infiltrate how the tune is commonly perceived and played - in this case, the 'alter ego' being Girl with the Blue Dress On (the other well-known mix-up being Walter Bulwer's No.2 versus The Quaker - aaagh!).

Diane
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 15, 2010, 11:08:21 PM
Revisitation of Skirmish -
I have just posted a YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCD4JLAYkQI) of Skirmish being played by Nick Barber (the composer) for White Rose Morris (for whom it was written) last Saturday.

As definitive a version as you could get, interestingly different from the written version, but I well know how that happens.

As for the "Nick's Maggot" title, I'm afraid I missed the opportunity to ask him about it yesterday.

You could ask Dave D tomorrow night, as he always calls the tune Nick's Maggot when announcing it at dance outs.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on March 16, 2010, 01:43:27 AM
Revisitation of Skirmish -
I have just posted a YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCD4JLAYkQI) of Skirmish being played by Nick Barber (the composer) for White Rose Morris (for whom it was written) last Saturday.

As definitive a version as you could get, interestingly different from the written version, but I well know how that happens.

As for the "Nick's Maggot" title, I'm afraid I missed the opportunity to ask him about it yesterday.

The dance is interestingly different from how Dog Rose do it. I thought that they and White Rose were fairly, um, "intimate"?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 16, 2010, 08:36:51 AM
How about Redowa Polka from Sussex (Michael Turner's MS)? It's a cracking three-parter and one of my favourites.

As long as dissemination through TOTM does nothing to reinforce that dreadful 'Franglais' (for want of a better word) effect, Steve! ie where the B part of one tune begins to get mixed up with the B part of another and, slowly, insidiously, starts to infiltrate how the tune is commonly perceived and played - in this case, the 'alter ego' being Girl with the Blue Dress On (the other well-known mix-up being Walter Bulwer's No.2 versus The Quaker - aaagh!).

Diane
Aaargh from me too, Diane! I know exactly what you mean and I hate it. I once had this happen to me at a session at Kelham Island with this very tune. All the ceilidh soc youngsters started playing the GWTBDO. They did not listen!!! In the end I stood up and stopped the tune and yelled something to the effect of "for f**** sake LISTEN!" Then I and a couple of friends restarted Redowa again. We proceeded to play it for for at least 10 times through, by which time all the youngsters had got the point and learnt a new tune.

Grrr!!!!  >:(

But I'm sure people on this forum do indeed listen at sessions. (Don't you?)

Edited to add - this is one case where a written version of the tune is worthwhile, not necessarily to play from, nor indeed to insist exactly how it is to be played; that way lies death and fossilisation - but simply as a reference. As my anecdote illustrates, there are times when learning (or rather mis-learning) a tune by ear can run the risk of total corruption and despoiling of what was a good original tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 16, 2010, 08:56:02 AM
Hmmm - I've twice got in with a 'young set' in Kelham Island. They did go off at complete tangents, and completely, almost rudely, ignored the rhythm I'd started some tunes in. Eventually (2nd visit) I got the message and .. went somewhere else.  :Ph

As above .. I'm for some Englishness. My speed comment merely echo'd what Steve had said about the video being 'quick'
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gandy on March 16, 2010, 11:13:56 AM
As above .. I'm for some Englishness.

I don't think there's been anything Scottish yet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 16, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
the other well-known mix-up being Walter Bulwer's No.2 versus The Quaker - aaagh!.

Dear friend that he is, Nick Barber is largely responsible for this by putting the B music of the Quaker into WB's in his "English Choice" red book. I think I mentioned this to him once and he was totally unrepentant.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 16, 2010, 11:24:26 AM

Grrr!!!!  >:(


Does anyone have a definitive ABC for the Redowa Polka?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 16, 2010, 12:44:23 PM
Does anyone have a definitive ABC for the Redowa Polka?
Ermmm... here?
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,3033.msg45130.html#msg45130
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 16, 2010, 02:02:35 PM
The thing that puts me off playing the Redowa in a typical session is that way that most people play the C music.
It wasn't obvious until somebody else showed me, but just because it's got C#s doesn't mean you play an A chord. Once you get your head round the idea that the C music is in C, with the chord sequence going C F G C the whole thing suddenly starts making sense, which it never did (to me) before. Unfortunately a D/G two-row doesn't have the F chord, but a D (ideally no thirds or D minor) is a reasonable substitute.

Anyway, if it gets chosen as TOTM I'll do it that way on my Saltarelle 2½ row, which does have an F bass.

I wasn't previously aware of the B getting mixed up with Girl with the Blue Dress on, but now I'll get nervous about that every time I play it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: oggiesnr on March 16, 2010, 05:22:49 PM
For experimenting with chords and fingerings may I nominate "Stranger on the Shore"?  Also a great tune for variations and a bit different to the usual box tunes.

Steve
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 16, 2010, 06:41:50 PM
For experimenting with chords and fingerings may I nominate "Stranger on the Shore"?  Also a great tune for variations and a bit different to the usual box tunes. Steve

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jZeXvpyZQ  ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 16, 2010, 06:55:54 PM
Just a thought but we have not had many entries for this moths tune or theme, so less "what shall we do next" more "Oh! time is running out for March"     ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Hasse on March 16, 2010, 08:54:13 PM
How about Redowa Polka from Sussex (Michael Turner's MS)? It's a cracking three-parter and one of my favourites.
I learnt it from the playing of dear departed Barry Callaghan (of 'Hardcore English' fame). We played it together in many a pub session.

That's simply incredible! I often think that sometimes English and Danish folk music is so alike. The A and B part of Redowa Polka is almost identical to an tune from Sealand (Denmark) called Pærevals or Pirrevals. Even though its called vals Waltz it's most certainly not a waltz, and not really a polka either, don't know the proper English for this - but a country dance for 3 pairs.
Like the C part in this polka, gives it something extra!  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 23, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
Hey Clive when will you be doing the poll for next months TOTM? First of the month is next thursday.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GuyWyatt on March 23, 2010, 11:54:33 AM
As one that needs a bit of a head start I second that query.  Besides, I accidentally bought a trombone recently and that is reducing my practice time.   (hmmm... Brass Acquisition Disorder is bad).
Guy

Edited to add...

What about Three Around Three?
A fantastic tune, frequently played at sessions (in England anyway), not a particularly difficult tune but plenty of room for the demi-gods to turn it into something to make the rest of us gasp (and weep).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Brimley on March 23, 2010, 01:14:26 PM
Can I (maybe controversially) suggest a non-folk tune, such as the brilliant 'Stranger on the Shore' idea?  It's just that I feel that if the box gets labelled as purely a folk instrument, we're missing out on its wider potential.  Or what about, 'We Can Work It Out' by the Beatles, 'Memphis Tennessee' by Chuck Berry (a good one for Cajuns!), or mebbe 'Dream, Dream, Dream', by the Everly Brothers?   ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 23, 2010, 01:20:29 PM
It's just that I feel that if the box gets labelled as purely a folk instrument, we're missing out on its wider potential.  Or what about, 'We Can Work It Out' by the Beatles, 'Memphis Tennessee' by Chuck Berry
If you could find the dots I'd have a go at it (I've always wanted to play pop music on the box). ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 23, 2010, 03:07:09 PM
Can I (maybe controversially) suggest a non-folk tune, such as the brilliant 'Stranger on the Shore' idea?  It's just that I feel that if the box gets labelled as purely a folk instrument, we're missing out on its wider potential.  Or what about, 'We Can Work It Out' by the Beatles, 'Memphis Tennessee' by Chuck Berry (a good one for Cajuns!), or mebbe 'Dream, Dream, Dream', by the Everly Brothers?   ;)

For TOTM, copyright is the main issue; assuming we ask (where practical) the copyright owners for permission to use their music, I very much doubt any of these would agree. ThemeOTM is a little different though; since there's rarely more than one or two vids of any one tune, I don't see any particular harm. Perhaps we could try a 'non-folk' ThemeOTM ?

Clive

PS: Aimed generally... I'll politely remind everyone that by all means nominate the more esoteric stuff, but please show us a video/audio of your interpretation first to give us a clue as to how that actually fits on a melodeon!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 23, 2010, 03:09:07 PM
Hey Clive when will you be doing the poll for next months TOTM? First of the month is next thursday.

Coming soon...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GuyWyatt on March 23, 2010, 03:14:29 PM
Not pop
Not estoteric
Not folk
Not in copyright......

"Liberty Bell" by John Philip Sousa
6/8, key of G (mostly) with a couple of accidentals within the range of most D/G boxes.

Well, ok, the C part goes into the key of C, but largely due to the theme music of Monty Python no-one ever remembers the C part.

So, my nomination is; Liberty Bell (A&B parts), aka the Monty Python theme.

(And Three Around Three if we are sticking to folky stuff.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 23, 2010, 03:19:03 PM
I would say for a theme of the month what about nursary rhymes as I'd love to see what others can do with them. (and I know tallship has already got a version of twinkle little star ;) )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 23, 2010, 03:21:29 PM
Liberty Bell works well on concertina! (http://www.jayls.com/jamring/mp3/LibertyBell.MP3)  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 23, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
and I know tallship has already got a version of twinkle little star ;)

Yup, all thirty seconds of it!  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 23, 2010, 03:27:45 PM
Not pop
Not estoteric
Not folk
Not in copyright......

"Liberty Bell" by John Philip Sousa
6/8, key of G (mostly) with a couple of accidentals within the range of most D/G boxes.

Well, ok, the C part goes into the key of C, but largely due to the theme music of Monty Python no-one ever remembers the C part.

So, my nomination is; Liberty Bell (A&B parts), aka the Monty Python theme.

(And Three Around Three if we are sticking to folky stuff.)

I use a melodeon friendly version of Liberty Bell - all in G and most of the hard accidentals missing, but played loud and with verve no one notices  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Brimley on March 23, 2010, 04:45:11 PM
Quote
For TOTM, copyright is the main issue; assuming we ask (where practical) the copyright owners for permission to use their music, I very much doubt any of these would agree. ThemeOTM is a little different though; since there's rarely more than one or two vids of any one tune, I don't see any particular harm. Perhaps we could try a 'non-folk' ThemeOTM ?

You're quite right, Clive, I was forgetting, that's the snag.  We've actually been pretty fortunate in the past when you've asked for permissions, that the authors have agreed, haven't we?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 01, 2010, 03:46:45 PM
Can I suggest a 'weather' theme?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Susi on April 01, 2010, 03:59:14 PM
Are there so many tunes about weather? I can only think of two bluegrass songs..not very suitable for the melodeon I guess:(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 01, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
Are there so many tunes about weather? I can only think of two bluegrass songs..not very suitable for the melodeon I guess:(
foul weather call, the rain it rains, jump at the sun(?), cold hailey rainy night....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Susi on April 01, 2010, 04:18:19 PM
Hehe, I bet there is reason to compose more tunes about the weather in England than anywhere else:D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 01, 2010, 04:19:44 PM
Hehe, I bet there is reason to compose more tunes about the weather in England than anywhere else:D
is there no snowy Swedish tunes?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Susi on April 02, 2010, 10:23:14 PM
You're right, Sarah, there definitely should be some...... I'll have to think about that !!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on April 15, 2010, 01:19:55 AM
Liberty bell reminded me of the theme from Blott on the landscape. I don't know if its really a suitable melodeon tune - it would need some re-arranging.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on April 21, 2010, 12:37:14 AM
Nomination for:  Pterodactyl 2-Step
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 21, 2010, 01:03:26 AM
Nomination for:  Pterodactyl 2-Step

Noted. Great tune, but it's pretty hard! It's the *other* tune from Wales that I know, by the way.

Have you got a video/sound file for it?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on April 21, 2010, 06:03:28 PM
Pterodactyl from a great site, not sure what the copywrite requirements are, so here is URL:

http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.mid
http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.pdf

Also, DTN has a terrific version on Youtube.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 21, 2010, 06:09:26 PM
Does anyone know how to contact Huw or Tony Williams?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 22, 2010, 12:01:53 AM
Pterodactyl from a great site, not sure what the copywrite requirements are, so here is URL:

http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.mid
http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.pdf

Also, DTN has a terrific version on Youtube.


Ah, yes, so he does - I'd forgotten about that vid. Huw Williams has/had a page on the BBC Wales site, since he does some presenting work for them - I'd guess he's probably contactable from that. For everyone's sanity though, I only tend to contact authors when it looks like their tune has a reasonable chance of winning the poll, so we won't pester him quite yet.

I'm always amazed at how Huw can have that skill in melodeon playing, tune writing, songwriting, guitar and singing all at the same time - it just isn't fair! Oh, and he is/was a champion Welsh clog dancer as well, as I recall. Talented chap.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on April 22, 2010, 01:16:10 AM
Here is a better sound file for DTN's Pterodactyl:

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11264
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on April 22, 2010, 06:05:11 AM
How about "the Ash Grove" I loved j.w.forrester's version for the March theme of the Month (is this the same as Chris' suggestion or is "the Ash tree" completely different?).
Louise

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 22, 2010, 09:08:29 AM
What about 'Micheal Turners Waltz'...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on April 22, 2010, 09:12:21 AM
Quote
What about 'Micheal Turners Waltz'...
Lovely - would get my vote!
AL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 22, 2010, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: Clive Williams link=topic=3033.msg48412#msg48412
I only tend to contact authors when it looks like their tune has a reasonable chance of winning the poll, so we won't pester him quite yet.

Would you mind if I put up an abc file of the tune taken from the PDF that's already been linked to, so those that fancy having a go at it anyway have a midi to listen to?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on April 22, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
My suggestions (mostly french stuff):

"Valse du vent": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcGX7x1vJ6I
"Mon amant de Saint-Jean": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFHYcxxEfs
"La Serenissima": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2ZYLhUZxU
...only 3 of so many nice tunes ...
I really like tunes in minor keys
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 22, 2010, 02:31:42 PM
Quote from: Clive Williams link=topic=3033.msg48412#msg48412
I only tend to contact authors when it looks like their tune has a reasonable chance of winning the poll, so we won't pester him quite yet.

Would you mind if I put up an abc file of the tune taken from the PDF that's already been linked to, so those that fancy having a go at it anyway have a midi to listen to?

Fine by me, but there's already been a midi file link posted, so you can save yourself the effort!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: juker on April 22, 2010, 05:48:45 PM
Has anyone suggested 'La Marianne' yet? Simple tune yet lots of potential (like most tunes I suppose!).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 22, 2010, 06:32:55 PM
What about 'Michael Turners Waltz'...

Do you mean The Waltz from the Michael Turner Collection". This tune was in fact composed in 1788 by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (KV 536, No. 2, ‘Six German Dances’) Waltz in G.   ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on April 22, 2010, 06:34:28 PM
Quote
Do you mean The Waltz from the Michael Turner Collection". This tune was in fact composed in 1788 by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (KV 536, No. 2, ‘Six German Dances’) Waltz in G.


That's the kiddy!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Andy Next Tune on April 22, 2010, 09:51:59 PM
Here is a better sound file for DTN's Pterodactyl:

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11264
What a great tune and playing from DTN. But definitely one for the more gifted!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on April 23, 2010, 01:28:41 AM
Here is a better sound file for DTN's Pterodactyl:

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=11264
What a great tune and playing from DTN. But definitely one for the more gifted!

Certainly for the more gifted if you have a standard two row DG. Obviously the only difference between our playing and his is that he has a 2.5 row ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on April 25, 2010, 08:01:38 AM
Zooks! Ash Grove did well to get in this months poll - I'd only suggested it as a joke in context of the Eyjafjallajokull volcano! :|glug.  Looking back a few hundred posts I see it's been nominated before. And it is a very straightforward tune (assuming it's the same one my dad taught me long ago - "one black'n one white'n")  ;)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: The Cidermaker on April 25, 2010, 10:01:08 AM
Does Anybody have the dots for  Mon Avant de Saint Jean please?

Perodactyl is a great tune, but I think easier on  a 2 1/2 row

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 25, 2010, 06:24:54 PM

Perodactyl is a great tune, but I think easier on  a 2 1/2 row



It is a tricky tune but it was written and performed on a standard D/G pokerwork. You need 'standard' accidentals, but other than that there's no particular advantage in using a 2.5 row for this tune.

Cheers,
Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on April 25, 2010, 11:11:58 PM
It's probably easier, but also probably not by as much as you'd think. It is a cracking tune and is possible to play on a standard DG (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on May 03, 2010, 08:44:42 AM
Came across Corelli's Maggot at the weekend and loved it. Can't play it (D isn't so easy on my G/C) but it might be a nice TOTM and would give me the motivation to learn it

dots here:- http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/tmp/Tune27136.pdf (http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/tmp/Tune27136.pdf)
and You tube here.-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oVBCP_O9Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oVBCP_O9Q)

anyone know the background to this tune?

Louise

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 03, 2010, 10:10:11 AM
Here it is in both D and C Louise.

X:1
T:Corelli's Maggot (D)
Q:1/4=100
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:D
A2 | "D"d2A2 d2A2 | "A"e6 A2 | "D"f2de f2ed | "A"e6 e2 |
"D"f2de f2ed | "A"e2fe fedc | "D"d2a2 "E"B2^g2 | "A"a6 :: A2 |
"D"d2de fed"^^"c | "G"B2G2 G2B2 | "Em"e2ef gfed | "A"c2A2 A2e2 | "D"a2d2 "A"g2fe |
"D"f2A2 d2F2 | "G"Gfed "A"c3d | "D"d6 :|


X:1
T:Corelli's Maggot (C)
Q:1/4=100
O:England
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:C
G2 | "C"c2G2 c2G2 | "G"d6 G2 | "C"e2cd e2dc | "G"d6 d2 |
"C"e2cd e2dc | "G"d2ed edcB | "C"c2g2 "D"A2^f2 | "G"g6 :: G2 |
"C"c2cd edc"Bb"B | "F"A2F2 F2A2 | "Dm"d2de fedc | "G"B2G2 G2d2 | "C"g2c2 "G"f2ed |
"C"e2G2 c2E2 | "F"Fedc "G"B3c | "C"c6 :|

Pete  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: NeilA on May 03, 2010, 10:14:22 AM
Came across Corelli's Maggot at the weekend and loved it. Can't play it (D isn't so easy on my G/C) but it might be a nice TOTM and would give me the motivation to learn it

dots here:- http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/tmp/Tune27136.pdf (http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/tmp/Tune27136.pdf)
and You tube here.-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oVBCP_O9Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oVBCP_O9Q)

anyone know the background to this tune?

Louise



Good suggestion and a cracking tune.

Neil
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on May 03, 2010, 10:31:48 AM
Quote
Here it is in both D and C Louise.
Great!! I'll give it a go in C (although that's my weak row)
Thanks
Louise
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 03, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
G is a long way from the written key but here it is in both high an low G

X:6
T:Corelli's Maggot (G low)
M:2/4
L:1/16
Q:1/4=100
K:G
D2 | "G"G2D2 G2D2 | "D"A6 D2 | "G"B2GA B2AG | "D"A6 A2 |
"G"B2GA B2AG | "D"A2BA BAGF | "G"G2d2 "A"E2^c2 | "D"d6 :: D2 |
"G"G2GA BAG"^^"F | "C"E2C2 C2E2 | "Am"A2AB cBAG | "D"F2D2 D2A2 | "G"d2G2 "D"c2BA |
"G"B2D2 G2B,2 | "C"CBAG "D"F3G | "G"G6 :|

X:6
T:Corelli's Maggot (G high)
M:2/4
L:1/16
Q:1/4=100
K:G
d2 | "G"g2d2 g2d2 | "D"a6 d2 | "G"b2ga b2ag | "D"a6 a2 |
"G"b2ga b2ag | "D"a2ba bagf | "G"g2d'2 "A"e2^c'2 | "D"d'6 :: d2 |
"G"g2ga bag"^^"f | "C"e2c2 c2e2 | "Am"a2ab c'bag | "D"f2d2 d2a2 | "G"d'2g2 "D"c'2ba |
"G"b2d2 g2B2 | "C"cbag "D"f3g | "G"g6 :|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: jb on May 03, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
anyone know the background to this tune?

It's based, a bit loosely in places, on the fourth (Gavotte) movement of Arcangelo Corelli's Violin Sonata (op 5) no.10 in F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GabMOpUz5xI).
You can download the score from here: http://imslp.org/wiki/12_Violin_Sonatas,_Op.5_%28Corelli,_Arcangelo%29
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on May 04, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
Pterodactyl from a great site, not sure what the copywrite requirements are, so here is URL:

http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.mid
http://www.iliff.co.uk/abc/tunes/113%20Pterodactyl%20Two-Step.pdf

Also, DTN has a terrific version on Youtube.


Ah, yes, so he does - I'd forgotten about that vid. Huw Williams has/had a page on the BBC Wales site, since he does some presenting work for them - I'd guess he's probably contactable from that. For everyone's sanity though, I only tend to contact authors when it looks like their tune has a reasonable chance of winning the poll, so we won't pester him quite yet.

I'm always amazed at how Huw can have that skill in melodeon playing, tune writing, songwriting, guitar and singing all at the same time - it just isn't fair! Oh, and he is/was a champion Welsh clog dancer as well, as I recall. Talented chap.

Cheers,

Clive


I heard some sad news about Huw yesterday on the May dance out I was on. I'm told that he has some progressive medical condition that now prevents him playing the melodeon as he can't get his fingers round it any more. He's still playing harp and guitar at the moment...

But at least this thread has reminded me of Pterodactyl Two-Step, so I've dusted it off for the ceilidh band, so thanks everyone here (and thanks to Huw for writing it too...)

Cheers,
Guy
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 14, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
as been discussed elsewhere what about Fireside Polka
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on May 14, 2010, 01:03:27 PM
as been discussed elsewhere what about Fireside Polka

Having dug out the book to check the tune, I've been browsing through it and found this, which suggests we are free to use it if we want to, as long as it's properly acknowledged:

"About Copyright
John and Sue's compositions are assigned to several copyright owners
[details snipped]
To perform, broadcast, or record any of these tunes, permission is not necessary as long as the composer and copyright owner or publisher is duly acknowledged. None of the tunes may be reproduced on paper or otherwise unless the permission of the publisher is first obtained"
(oops... does posting ABC here count...?)

Deciphering the codes reveals that Fireside Polka's publisher and copyright owner is Island Music Ltd.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on May 14, 2010, 05:23:42 PM
I think we would be caught by:

"None of the tunes may be reproduced on paper or otherwise unless the permission of the publisher is first obtained"

I'm pretty sure the "otherwise" would cover abc on the web
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on May 15, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
"None of the tunes may be reproduced on paper or otherwise unless the permission of the publisher is first obtained"

I'm pretty sure the "otherwise" would cover abc on the web

Does that mean I should pull my posting on http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,4044.0.html (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,4044.0.html) ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on May 15, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
Either that or ask for permission.  Or, I think if you sent a copy direct to another person then it would not count as "publishing".
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on May 20, 2010, 06:48:42 PM
"Sur le pont" by Frederic Paris

http://archive.folx.org/tune/scottishe/sur-le-pont-878
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GuyWyatt on May 20, 2010, 07:11:01 PM
Whilst we are on Fred Paris how about "Le Canal en Octobre"?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: **DTN** on May 20, 2010, 11:36:07 PM
Whilst we are on Fred Paris how about "Le Canal en Octobre"?


NOW YOUR'E TALKING!!!!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on May 20, 2010, 11:49:02 PM
Whilst we are on Fred Paris how about "Le Canal en Octobre"?


Yesss, nice tune

played on a diatonic look-a-like CBA by the same player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rf3s6C_W10 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qt-ohf6jUo

Tablature
http://www.diatonia.net/pdf/289-Le%20canal%20en%20Octobre.pdf
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: OwenG on May 21, 2010, 08:56:40 AM
Is it October next month already?  ???  :o  ???

I don't know where this year has gone . . .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on May 21, 2010, 10:25:39 AM
Frédéric Paris seemed to have stopped playing Canal en Octobre in the late 80's 90's 'cos everyone who went to Embraud (including one Mr Cutting) seemed to want to play it too. I have to say I particularly like Andy's version, which somehow gave the tune a new and separate life.

Canal's become a standard session piece, but both A.C/C.W and Fréd (on his 80's cassette) play it medlied with another tune - variously called "Autrerfois" or "Une Autre Fois" - translating "another time" (either sense) or "of the past". I am absolutely sure the ambiguity is intentional. Strange thing is that if I start in a session  with the frankly delightful Autrefois no one knows it - although everyone joins in mightily once the tune changes.

Not formally checked but I believe the 'canal' is the lateral navigation of the Loire (http://home.versatel.nl/Mouringh.Marga/LoireLateral_eng.htm). Frédéric's group Chavanée have done much research (and a CD) on the moving of goods down the Allier on punts to Bec d'Allier and thence by barge (canal or Loire river) to Nantes and the "territoires d'outre-mer".  The river confluence with its mighty aqueduct is about 20km north of the village he lives in - Château-sur-Allier

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?&hnear=Embraud,+03320+Ch%C3%A2teau-sur-Allier,+Allier,+Auvergne,+France&ll=46.880376,3.172989&spn=0.359981,1.056747&z=11

On second thought - maybe waiting another 4 months for this one is a no brainer ...  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 24, 2010, 10:17:05 AM
Just wondering when you doing the poll for next months totm?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 24, 2010, 10:41:25 AM
Just wondering when you doing the poll for next months totm?

Blimey. Is it that time of the month already? I'll stick something up tonight. Any more late nominations before I do?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 24, 2010, 10:54:51 AM
Quote
Any more late nominations before I do?
Ah yes...how about that beautiful, but simple, Irish melody 'Love's Young Dream' ?
Regards, AL

it's the weather you know!  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 24, 2010, 10:59:41 AM
What about sweeps hornpipe?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/13701/
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: summerstars on May 24, 2010, 11:04:59 AM
Bay Horse Brawl - A new tune composed by flautist Annie Collier of Otley, West Yorks (I have already sought and gained permission to publish)

A simple but haunting tune in Emin which should provide plenty of scope for improvisations and embellishments.

X:1
T:Bay Horse Brawl
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:Reel
K:EMin
Z:Annie Collier
P:A
|:E3F G2 E2 | F2 G2 A4 | G3A B2 B2 | A2 B2 AG F2 |
E3F G2 E2 | F2 G2 A4 | G2 G2 F2 GF | E4 E4 :|
P:B
|:B3c B2 A2 | G2 A2 B2 G2 | A3B A2 G2 | F2 G2 AG F2 |
B3c B2 A2 | G2 A2B4 | G2 G2 F2 GF | E4 E4 :|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on May 24, 2010, 11:56:48 AM
There's quite a nice "'Bar Room Branle" out there somewhere. Heard it in the mid 90's but cannot remember a note - any one else?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 24, 2010, 12:00:11 PM
There's quite a nice "'Bar Room Branle" out there somewhere. Heard it in the mid 90's but cannot remember a note - any one else?

Yep, nice tune. Plays nicely on a D/G, though you need an F natural accidental - unusual in that the B music is in the key of C major. Written by Rob Kay of Tickled Pink as I recall?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on May 24, 2010, 01:56:11 PM
I'll add my support for 'Le Canal en Octobre'.
A great tune and you can do a lot with it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 24, 2010, 02:16:31 PM
What about rusty gully?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/37127/
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on May 24, 2010, 04:58:23 PM
What about rusty gully?


I was listening to the definitive version at

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJR1CNpgjdc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJR1CNpgjdc&feature=related)

this morning when my wife, a lovely midwestern lady who had never heard of a melodeon as recently as two years ago, came in from the kitchen and said, "That's Derek, isn't it?"

Rusty Gully will certainly get my vote...and my wife's as well.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gandy on May 24, 2010, 08:27:04 PM
What about rusty gully?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/37127/
Nice web site, I didn't know that one, thanks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: forrest on May 27, 2010, 12:00:32 AM
How's about a theme o' the month where we play a tune of our own choice on a toy melodeon? Most of us have one, don't we?......................... :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 27, 2010, 01:00:14 AM
How's about a theme o' the month where we play a tune of our own choice on a toy melodeon? Most of us have one, don't we?......................... :||:

I do like the idea! Of those who feel the urge to do a ThOTM video, how many do/don't have access to a toy melodeon?

(I do!)

Cheers,

Clive

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on May 27, 2010, 08:26:26 AM
I do! It's my main box  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 27, 2010, 08:51:15 AM
I used to but I gave it away. :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on May 27, 2010, 03:06:13 PM
I have one in serious need of tuning....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on May 27, 2010, 07:38:20 PM
I have one in serious need of tuning....

Ah, a new one!   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on May 28, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
I have one in serious need of tuning....

Ah, a new one!   >:E

No, actually one of those 50's style "cute" white Hero boxes with the square buttons....probably worth getting it tuned, I think...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Eoin on June 10, 2010, 12:36:02 PM
Here's a lovely, recently composed, waltz tune which I think could stand a lot of individual interpretation!

X:804
T:Maggie West's Waltz
C:M Green
S:Keith Dickson, Edinburgh
Z:Nigel Gatherer
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
G>A | A<B-B>B A>G | E>G-G2 G>A | B>d-d>g (3gab | b<a-a2 g>b |
g>e-e2 g>e | d2-d>B- (3BAG | A2-A>B A>G | A2-A>d G>A |
A<B-B>B A>G | E>G-G2 G>A | B>d-d>g (3gab | b<a-a2-(3aga |
g>e-e2 g>e | e>d-d>B (3BAG | A2-A>B G>F | G2-G>d (3BAG |
A>G-G>d (3BAG | A>G-G>d (3BAG | A>B d>g (3gab | b<a-a2-(3aga |
g>e-e2 g>e | d2-d>B- (3BAG | A2-A>B A>G | A2-A>d (3BAG |
A>G-G>d (3BAG | A>G-G>d (3BAG | A>B d>g (3gab | b<a-a2 g>a |
g>e-e2 g>e | e>d-d>B (3BAG | A2-A>B G>F | G4 |]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on June 11, 2010, 09:32:18 AM
I'd like to suggest "Seven Stars" also known as, the moon and seven stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Pzbi5quBg

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on June 11, 2010, 09:37:02 AM
I'd like to suggest "Seven Stars" also known as, the moon and seven stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Pzbi5quBg


:)

btw.Been trying to play that on fiddle....I think someone's gonna call the rspca the sounds my violin was making.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on June 12, 2010, 08:39:14 AM
I'd like to suggest "Seven Stars" also known as, the moon and seven stars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Pzbi5quBg



Good one Chas. It's been on my "must learn" list for ages.

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on June 12, 2010, 08:58:45 AM
I'd like to suggest that we have a go at doing a song for totm (either theme or tune) - singing to the melodeon is a good fun thing to do - yet very rarely encountered in my experience?
 ;D
SingalongaAL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on June 12, 2010, 10:40:53 AM
This might work if we expanded it to a generic "melodeon as accompaniment" or playing with other instruments theme. I don't sing (apart from the odd chorus harmony etc.) but I do lots of song accompaniments and instrumental arrangements. Surely most of us have some friends who play another instrument and could get together and play something as a duo or larger group.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on June 12, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
I would prefer if it didnt involve me singing as I can't sing to save my life. But I know someone who might sing in a virtual duet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on June 12, 2010, 11:37:09 AM
Quote
This might work if we expanded it to a generic "melodeon as accompaniment" or playing with other instruments theme. I don't sing (apart from the odd chorus harmony etc.) but I do lots of song accompaniments and instrumental arrangements. Surely most of us have some friends who play another instrument and could get together and play something as a duo or larger group.

Good idea!

Quote
But I know someone who might sing in a virtual duet.
Again - there's more than one way this could be done - so good idea. I'm not a terribly great singer myself, but find that I often have to lead the singing in a public context. I found singing and playing melodeon not the most natural activity, but am glad that I can do so, as it really does add depth to what's available to me to play.
AL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on June 14, 2010, 05:07:30 PM
I don't know whether this has been already suggested ...
The Galopede/Yarmouth Reel: http://www.kitchenmusician.net/giftunes/galopede.gif
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on June 18, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
Just a suggestion for theme of the month. How about tunes you wouldn't expect to hear on a melodeon  ??? :|||:

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: folkman on June 18, 2010, 07:16:09 PM
Although I'm a Newbie, do I get a vote? If so, I vote for The Valentine...16 times. :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on June 23, 2010, 10:54:28 PM
I don't whether this has been already suggested ...
The Galopede/Yarmouth Reel: http://www.kitchenmusician.net/giftunes/galopede.gif

Nice thought!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: **DTN** on June 23, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
I've been trying to play a really nice but hard tune by Mr Cutting today!,,, It sounds really crap at the moment! ... so my vote is ... record a tune you can't play!  >:E >:E >:E >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Broadland Boy on June 23, 2010, 11:53:52 PM
I don't whether this has been already suggested ...
The Galopede/Yarmouth Reel: http://www.kitchenmusician.net/giftunes/galopede.gif

Nice thought!

First tune I learned to play on the fiddle back at school, gut scraping (like face scraping later in life) never took  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on June 24, 2010, 12:30:50 AM
I've been trying to play a really nice but hard tune by Mr Cutting today!,,, It sounds really crap at the moment! ... so my vote is ... record a tune you can't play!  >:E >:E >:E >:E

I already have :P See most of my videos so far...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 24, 2010, 12:40:30 AM
I've been trying to play a really nice but hard tune by Mr Cutting today!,,, It sounds really crap at the moment! ... so my vote is ... record a tune you can't play!  >:E >:E >:E >:E

Aha! I finally get to beat **DTN**. So you think that your worst playing will be less palatable than mine eh? I've been working on Stoney Steps for a week or two now, and well, to be brutally frank progress has been slow to say the least. Sally had a birthday today and although she's a talented musician she's somewhat less then able on the fiddle that she saw for the very first time at 9am this morning. Her prowess on flute and recorder seemed to be more or less unhelpful on a wooden box with strings as it happens. (Bit of a devil though because she'd figured out her first scale in less than five minutes and strangled her way through the A part of Princess Royal in ten!  :M)

So, "I Can Play Worse Than You Can, The Duet" - wanna play?  Bring Jimbo, it should be fun. >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on June 27, 2010, 12:53:45 PM
I'd like to suggest that we have a go at doing a song for totm (either theme or tune) - singing to the melodeon is a good fun thing to do - yet very rarely encountered in my experience?
 ;D
SingalongaAL

I'll go along with that.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Marje on June 27, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
I'd love to see a thread (or Theme of the Month) with examples of singing with melodeon. As Anahata says, it wouldn't have to be the same person doing both. I do sing with mine sometimes, but I just sort of busk some suitable chords and the odd twiddle. I tend to do it more in sessions so with any luck others will join on other instruments and I'll end up with a backing band. But for solo work, I would love to see other people's efforts, to get some ideas as to what techniques to use and how to vary the accompaniment.

I'm not offering to contribute to this, as I have yet to work out how on earth I'd create such a recording and what I'd do with it next. I know there's a thread on this, but it seems to assume that you already know the basics. In any case I think I'd find it too painful to confront my singing, playing and appearance all at once. But I do enjoy seeing some of the clips you braver types have offered to share with us, so the idea has my vote.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on June 29, 2010, 01:00:04 PM
I think a 'collaberation' or 'duet' theme would be good.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Susi on July 01, 2010, 01:19:55 AM
That's a cool idea for a theme, Sarah!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on July 08, 2010, 03:03:19 PM
What about a 'Music hall' theme?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on July 23, 2010, 12:48:25 AM
Nearly time for a new TOTM poll - get your nominations in!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: sqwzboxstudent on July 23, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
what about smash the windows???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on July 23, 2010, 03:57:33 PM
what about smash the windows???
you'll end up with an ASBO ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on July 23, 2010, 04:11:02 PM
I'll add a few more thoughts to the pile:

Duchess Dressed in Blue
LNB Polka
Lemmie Brazil's No. 2
The Nutting Girl

and for themes:

Tunes from France
Tunes you learnt over summer (which we'll almost certainly do in September, so pay attention in those workshops!)

Clive


Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: zubz on July 23, 2010, 04:15:56 PM
Fireside Polka - you know, for those on the forum who are currently in winter!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gandy on July 23, 2010, 05:00:19 PM
what about smash the windows???
Nice one !    And Music Hall as the theme.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on July 23, 2010, 06:38:34 PM
My offering is 'Miss Betty Fitchett's Wedding' by the great Sir Jimmy Shand! An all-inclusive number, I'd say.
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on July 24, 2010, 05:06:17 PM
Slight holdup on the TOTM poll this month - should get it up on Monday.

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on July 26, 2010, 10:51:41 AM
I'll add a few more thoughts to the pile:

Duchess Dressed in Blue...

Clive

Is this the tune known elsewhere as Dark Girl Dressed in Blue, or something completely different?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on July 26, 2010, 11:23:12 AM
and raise you "Two little girls in blue"  :|glug
That would fit under 'music hall' title ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: brianread on July 26, 2010, 11:58:07 AM
I'll add a few more thoughts to the pile:

Duchess Dressed in Blue...

Clive

Is this the tune known elsewhere as Dark Girl Dressed in Blue, or something completely different?

I know "Dark Girl Dressed in blue" - but can't find "Duchess..." can someone point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on July 26, 2010, 12:44:05 PM
I'll add a few more thoughts to the pile:

Duchess Dressed in Blue...

Clive

Is this the tune known elsewhere as Dark Girl Dressed in Blue, or something completely different?

I know "Dark Girl Dressed in blue" - but can't find "Duchess..." can someone point me in the right direction?

It's the same tune as far as I'm aware - it goes under several different names.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on July 29, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
Just looked we started this in November so in 3 months time it will be a whole year of tunes of the month.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on August 02, 2010, 09:12:22 AM
Just looked we started this in November so in 3 months time it will be a whole year of tunes of the month.

Nope first on was Speed the Plough in October last
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on August 03, 2010, 10:08:43 AM
What about 'railway hotel'?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/50430/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hExOkF0v4I
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on August 19, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
How about Herbert The Sherbert? Goes well with The Plane Tree which was an earlier TOTM.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on August 19, 2010, 11:21:05 PM
Has anyone nominatated Sheriffs Ride?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on August 23, 2010, 10:48:29 AM
When is the next tune of the month poll?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on August 23, 2010, 10:56:27 AM
When is the next tune of the month poll?

Some time tomorrow I expect ... but more to the point where's your version of the Nutting Girl?  :|||: :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on August 23, 2010, 10:59:34 AM
When is the next tune of the month poll?

Some time tomorrow I expect ... but more to the point where's your version of the Nutting Girl?  :|||: :D
the nutty girl would be more appropriate to me. lol!
Haven't really 'got' it yet.  :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on August 27, 2010, 10:23:53 AM
Go list for a sailor....
 ::) :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 01, 2010, 11:24:11 AM
Future theme:
Popular session tunes
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: OldDog on September 01, 2010, 11:52:18 PM
Hi,

How about 'Bell Bottom Trousers' - the sanitized version, of course.

http://back.numachi.com:8000/dtrad/abc/BELLBTTM.abc

This is from JCs ABC Tune finder.

If you would like the original words with all the naughty bits, try Wikipedia.

Regards,
Paul N.
Tonawanda, NY
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 02, 2010, 08:21:24 AM
Future theme:
Popular session tunes

A bit like Barry Callaghan's "Hard Core English" book, based on tunes that are actually in current use, not gathering dust in books.
This would be interesting because everybody's regional version of "popular" is different.
It would also be easy as everyone will be able to play something they know.
I'd choose "representative of our local session"  rather than "likely to be known by everyone" but our Cambridgeshire Sunday night sessions are a bit like that anyway, delighting in obscure tunes that are absolute crackers and ought to be played more.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 02, 2010, 09:47:08 AM
Future theme:
Popular session tunes

A bit like Barry Callaghan's "Hard Core English" book, based on tunes that are actually in current use, not gathering dust in books.
This would be interesting because everybody's regional version of "popular" is different.
It would also be easy as everyone will be able to play something they know.
I'd choose "representative of our local session"  rather than "likely to be known by everyone" but our Cambridgeshire Sunday night sessions are a bit like that anyway, delighting in obscure tunes that are absolute crackers and ought to be played more.

The 'local' session thing is a great idea. Will be intresting to see what is popular where. Will we have to say which session it applies to though?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on September 03, 2010, 07:50:39 AM
For ThOTM how about "Your favorite schottische" (for LDT) ;D

Louise
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: juker on September 03, 2010, 12:19:52 PM
I don't know any tunes suitable for melodeon (apart from the ones I have learned here!) but I would really like to learn more 'up and down the row' tunes that are lively and GREAT tunes. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on September 04, 2010, 11:04:58 PM
Pursuing the 'might come up in sessions' angle, how about Steamboat Hornpipe? I reckon it's a cracking tune and there's a definite hint of 'up and down the keyboard'!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: strad on September 09, 2010, 07:57:05 PM
Without ploughing through all the other pages in this thread - how about
"My Party Piece" TOTM?

Nigel
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 09, 2010, 08:19:50 PM
Have we had a Scandinavian Tunes theme of the month yet?
Or even French?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tyker on September 09, 2010, 08:25:25 PM
Last month must have passed you by , for the French theme .You can still add a tune !
No Scandinavian theme has happened , though .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 10, 2010, 09:34:25 AM
I'd like to suggest a Playford tune, either for 'Tune of the Month' or 'Theme of the Month'.
There are lots to choose from, and many of them are very playable on melodeon. Probably you have played some of them without knowing they are from Playford; some are used for morris, others represent popular dance tunes of the day which are still played now - e.g. Rusty Gully.

So perhaps choose a tune that (a) hasn't yet appeared on TOTM, and (b) isn't normally used for morris.

One of my favourites is Mr Beveridge's Maggot, which became especially well-known after the release of the BBC version of 'Pride and Prejudice'.
Nice video clip here: Mr Beveridge's Maggot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUC4hmCyxZ0).

Original key is G minor, but fits nicely on a D/G melodeon in Em and is not too difficult (nowhere near as hard as the recent TOTM 'Liberty Bell'). Ideally you need a box with a fourth button start to allow you to play the low B, and also a low D# accidental is useful. A 2.5 row box like a Mory is good, and I expect a Hohner Club would work well too. But with a bit of careful fudging, it is quite playable on an ordinary 2-row box with standard accidentals and a 3rd button start.

Here's a full ABC version in Em:
X:1
T:Mr Beveridge's Maggot (Em)
S:Playford's Dancing Master, 7th ed. (1689), 3rd supplement
M:3/2
L:1/8
K:Em %Transposed from Gm
P:A
|:"Em"e4 "B"^d4 "Em"e4|"G"B2 AG "B"FG A2 "Em"G2 E2|"C"e4 "D"f4 "G"g4 |"D"d2 cB AB c2 "G"B2 G2:|
P:B
"G"B2 d4 d2 d4|"D"A2 c4 c2 c4|"Em"G2 B4 B2 B2 AG |"D"FG A2 "Em"G2 FE "B"^D2 B,2|
"B"B2 f4 f2 f2B2|"Em"g2 f2 e2 "B"^d2 "Em"e4|"G"Bc d2 GA B2 "D"FG A2 |"Em"G2 E2 E2>"B"^D2 "Em"E4|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 10, 2010, 09:35:43 AM

One of my favourites is Mr Beveridge's Maggot, which became especially well-known after the release of the BBC version of 'Pride and Prejudice'.
Nice video clip here: Mr Beveridge's Maggot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUC4hmCyxZ0).

Oooooooooh, Mr Darcy. *swoon*
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 10, 2010, 09:44:34 AM
Oooooooooh, Mr Darcy. *swoon*
A predictable response  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 10, 2010, 09:58:22 AM
Last month must have passed you by , for the French theme .You can still add a tune !

Duh  :|bl what what I thinking? (not thinking, more like)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 10, 2010, 10:01:16 AM
What about 'old joe clark'?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/dosearch/?title=old+joe+clark
as we haven't had an american tune yet, plus I'm learning it on fiddle for the fiddle tune of the month so might as well kill two birds with one stone. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on September 10, 2010, 10:04:44 AM
One of my favourites is Mr Beveridge's Maggot, which became especially well-known after the release of the BBC version of 'Pride and Prejudice'.
Nice video clip here: Mr Beveridge's Maggot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUC4hmCyxZ0).

Lovely.
Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
How long do they have to walk through the dance at this ceilidh  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on September 10, 2010, 10:37:59 AM
or we could have "somebody's "Maggot"" (your favourite Maggot) as a ThOTM

Louise
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 10, 2010, 10:39:37 AM
or we could have "somebody's "Maggot"" (your favourite Maggot) as a ThOTM

Louise
What's a maggot?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on September 10, 2010, 10:39:48 AM
Quote
What about 'old joe clark'?
Great - that'd suit me too  ;D Though I've already posted my first fiddle attempt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXd3jo2qnRk)
AL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 10, 2010, 10:47:30 AM
What's a maggot?
A species of earworm.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on September 10, 2010, 10:56:14 AM
Quote
What's a maggot?

Steve's annswer here

Quote
Maggot means a 'whim' or 'fancy'
See here:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/43401

Louise
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on September 10, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
or we could have "somebody's "Maggot"" (your favourite Maggot) as a ThOTM

Louise
What's a maggot?

maggot. Old Eng. word meaning ‘fanciful idea’, used by 16th- and 17th-cent. composers in titles of instrumental pieces, often country dances.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on September 10, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
+1 for Old Joe Clark, cracking tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on September 10, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Quote
+1 for Old Joe Clark, cracking tune.
Well, that's 3 of us voting for it already!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on September 11, 2010, 07:32:36 AM
[elsewhere] Need a nice popular folk tune from Germany please.  :|||:

Unexplored territory! It could be a great idea. I'll resurrect my old biking lederhosen.
If Sandy might be persuaded to wear the dirndl - all the better [Emoticon censored by Mods  ::)]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on September 11, 2010, 11:55:45 AM
[elsewhere] Need a nice popular folk tune from Germany please.  :|||:

Unexplored territory! It could be a great idea. I'll resurrect my old biking lederhosen.
If Sandy might be persuaded to wear the dirndl - all the better [Emoticon censored by Mods  ::)]

Ha Ha Ha. I've got a dirndl for each day of the week...all with matching Doc Martens...spoilt for choice!   :D

Seriously though...how about tunes from around the world.

cheers
Sandy
 (:)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on September 13, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
What about 'old joe clark'?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/dosearch/?title=old+joe+clark
as we haven't had an american tune yet, plus I'm learning it on fiddle for the fiddle tune of the month so might as well kill two birds with one stone. ;)
Liberty Bell: composed by American John Philip Sousa who was known for his American military marches which all strikes me as being rather American.
My vote is for ENGLISH  and, at the risk of being a tad demanding, English Folk to boot.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on September 14, 2010, 01:17:39 AM
What about 'old joe clark'?
http://www.folktunefinder.com/dosearch/?title=old+joe+clark
as we haven't had an american tune yet, plus I'm learning it on fiddle for the fiddle tune of the month so might as well kill two birds with one stone. ;)
Liberty Bell: composed by American John Philip Sousa who was known for his American military marches which all strikes me as being rather American.
My vote is for ENGLISH  and, at the risk of being a tad demanding, English Folk to boot.

To be fair, we've had lots of English tunes, it's good to vary the repertoire a bit. I don't think we've had any fast Irish reels yet :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 14, 2010, 09:36:24 AM
By my reckoning (I'm sure someone will correct me), we've had 5 English, 2 Scottish, 2 French (by the same chap!) and 2 American. Sounds a nice mix to me. Old Joe Clark is a nice nomination; I'll stick it on the list, but next month, let's face it, Canal in October is going to win.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on September 14, 2010, 10:02:59 AM
Old Joe Clark is a nice nomination; I'll stick it on the list, but next month, let's face it, Canal in October is going to win.
Oh I hope so  8)
If not, you'll have to make 'Canals' theme of the month. :P

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on September 14, 2010, 06:09:21 PM
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may I be the first to nominate anything to do with "fast" .. for Lent.

Something 'lento' for Lent would be much more appropriate to my ability level  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on September 15, 2010, 07:22:44 PM
Bearing in mind that Liberty Bell March is not an easy tune on the melodeon (others may find it easy, but it is taking me a long time to master it - although I hope to be able to post something before the end of the month), perhaps we should balance things up by nominating and voting for something quite easy for next month. That way, those who consider Liberty Bell March beyond them might feel inspired to post a video or audio file of their rendition of October's Tune of the Month. My suggestion would be Walter Bulwer's No.2.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on September 15, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
perhaps we should balance things up by nominating and voting for something quite easy for next month. My suggestion would be Walter Bulwer's No.2.

Nothing wrong with simple tunes - some of the tunes I most enjoy playing are not by any stretch of the imagination difficult, and it's an old axiom that it never hurts anyone to go back to basics.  A simple tune would encourage the less experienced, while the challenge to the old hands would be to take a tune we know inside out and find something new to say with it. Sounds like a good idea to me......

Graham
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 20, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
By my reckoning (I'm sure someone will correct me), we've had 5 English, 2 Scottish, 2 French (by the same chap!) and 2 American. Sounds a nice mix to me. Old Joe Clark is a nice nomination; I'll stick it on the list, but next month, let's face it, Canal in October is going to win.

Will you not be bothering with the poll for next month then is its an open and shut case?  ;) :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 20, 2010, 04:31:09 PM
By my reckoning (I'm sure someone will correct me), we've had 5 English, 2 Scottish, 2 French (by the same chap!) and 2 American. Sounds a nice mix to me. Old Joe Clark is a nice nomination; I'll stick it on the list, but next month, let's face it, Canal in October is going to win.

Will you not be bothering with the poll for next month then is its an open and shut case?  ;) :P

Thought about it, but I'd miss the excitement!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on September 22, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
By my reckoning (I'm sure someone will correct me), we've had 5 English, 2 Scottish, 2 French (by the same chap!) and 2 American. Sounds a nice mix to me. Old Joe Clark is a nice nomination; I'll stick it on the list, but next month, let's face it, Canal in October is going to win.

Will you not be bothering with the poll for next month then is its an open and shut case?  ;) :P

Thought about it, but I'd miss the excitement!
when will the poll be up then...it will be a week left from tommorow
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on October 01, 2010, 09:55:01 AM
It might be a crazy idea but....what about a theme of the month of "Untitled' tunes?
As you couldn't add it to the tune of the month coz there's no title but for a theme it might be quite fun.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Broadland Boy on October 01, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Putting forward interpretations of an untitled tune may well have it debarred later as someone else here is bound to be able to identify it Sarah, then you'd have to learn another, and another  ;)

Hope you have managed to de liquify your keyboard, drinking and surfing just don't mix, especially if alcohol free  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on October 16, 2010, 12:30:58 AM
How about Portobello for November?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on November 09, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
Probably should have put it here.

Robin Griggs Tribute TOTM?

Anyone interested in making the January 2011 TOTM "anything written or performed by Robin Griggs"?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on November 09, 2010, 10:53:58 PM
Wonderful idea, but I feel that many of Robin's tunes have so many 'interesting' rhythms it may be too difficult for beginners for contribute.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on November 10, 2010, 08:51:11 AM
Wonderful idea, but I feel that many of Robin's tunes have so many 'interesting' rhythms it may be too difficult for beginners for contribute.
Agreed. I found them hard enough!
There again Kai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLz-taG7bEY) has been learning them at the age of 10, but he's clever.

I feel strangely uncomfortable about this, though it's hard to explain why.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ACE on November 16, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
How about the wedding march for some time next summer ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on November 16, 2010, 05:52:13 PM
Or 'Wedding Tunes' as a theme??
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on November 16, 2010, 07:54:58 PM
Moon and Seven Stars.

Chas
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on November 17, 2010, 10:11:23 AM
That would get my vote.  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on November 17, 2010, 10:16:01 AM
I want to learn seven stars.

How about TV theme tunes for theme of the month too or has that been suggested already ???

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on November 17, 2010, 10:20:55 AM
Or 'Wedding Tunes' as a theme??
Haste to the wedding?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on November 17, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
Or 'Wedding Tunes' as a theme??
Haste to the wedding?

Getting Upstairs
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: oggiesnr on November 17, 2010, 05:41:49 PM
Or 'Wedding Tunes' as a theme??
Haste to the wedding?

Getting Upstairs

Ladies Pleasure  (:)

Steve
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on November 17, 2010, 06:02:26 PM
Gender tunes ?? Wot Ya fink ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on November 17, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Or 'Wedding Tunes' as a theme??
Haste to the wedding?

Getting Upstairs

Ladies Pleasure  (:)

Steve


The Stool of Repentance.......?  >:E

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on November 22, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
Tommorow they'll be a week left till end of the month. I'll be intrested to see the choices for next month. :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pammylou on November 23, 2010, 10:59:27 AM
How about the 'Three Sea Captains' for a tune of the month?

Pam
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on November 23, 2010, 12:24:56 PM
How about the 'Three Sea Captains' for a tune of the month?

Pam

Also known as "See three Captains"  :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on November 23, 2010, 12:43:39 PM
C3/3C Captains is a nice tune that I haven't played for an actual dance in years. Good call.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on November 27, 2010, 05:05:13 PM
If its not already on the list what about three around three?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: oggiesnr on November 29, 2010, 05:43:51 PM
In order to rescue it from session hell, to hear how far it has now been transmuted from the original and because it's a fun bass workout "The Dark Island"

Steve
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on December 12, 2010, 01:47:49 PM
Nice picture of a couple of our chosen composers from folk photographer Jeff Dantin's blog

  http://www.jeffdantin-photomusiquetrad.com/photo-1778295-File6796_jpg.html

Frédéric central on the big drum.  Maxou to the right on fife (tall, glasses). The other photos give an nice feel for how the Embraud festivals run.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: William on December 20, 2010, 01:20:12 PM
The Belfast Hornpipe, please. I'm only a beginner, but I think that it's far more fun than learning my scales and I'd dearly love to watch someone really good playing it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 24, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
A combination of Christmas and a house full of flu means TOTM's poll will be a couple of days later this month.

Cheers,
Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on December 24, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
True blue hornpipe?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on December 25, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
Dark Girl stressed with Flu is still my nomination. Get well soon

Very apt at the moment Chris.  :Ph Send one over.

Snuffles back to bed.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on January 21, 2011, 10:35:09 AM
What about The Cheshire Waltz since people are waltzing already. A lovely tune, in my opinion, made even more so here by Spiers and Boden in spight of the fact that J.S. is playing one of those weird squeezy concertina thingies ('cos he can I guess).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh_dNzXhT50
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Alan Morley on January 21, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
The Belfast Hornpipe, please. I'm only a beginner, but I think that it's far more fun than learning my scales and I'd dearly love to watch someone really good playing it.


Here is a link to a great little site Allan's Irish Fiddle - there is ABC  / Sheet / Midi on there for Belfast Hornpipe..I just got the midi to have a look at..it's one of those session tunes that crops up, but I never knew the name of...

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
As its been mentioned on the tunes section what about 'morgan rattler'?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on February 02, 2011, 12:47:35 PM
How about Woodland Flowers. There's a lovely archive recording of Will Starr playing it (http://www.archive.org/details/WoodlandFlowers). He goes off somewhere else completely in the middle. I can remember being forced to do country dancing in the school playground to 78 rpm recordings like this on a wind up gramophone. I hated it.  >:E

There's also a recording of Bob Cann playing it on this page (http://www.we7.com/#/album/Bob-Cann/West-Country-Melodeon). (Thanks gypsylad (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5943.msg74833.html#msg74833))
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill Young on February 02, 2011, 01:20:41 PM
How about Woodland Flowers. There's a lovely archive recording of Will Starr playing it (http://www.archive.org/details/WoodlandFlowers). He goes off somewhere else completely in the middle.
No he doesn't. He's playing it exactly per the score of "Woodland Flowers" in the book of Felix Burns compositions published by the National Association of Accordion and Fiddle Clubs (Scotland). I think you're referrring to the Trio section.
Quote

There's also a recording of Bob Cann playing it on this page (http://www.we7.com/#/album/Bob-Cann/West-Country-Melodeon).
Just goes to show you can't make much of a job of a tune on an instrument missing some of the key notes.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill the Farmer on February 02, 2011, 02:16:40 PM
Well you learn something new every day. Thanks Bill.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Alan Morley on February 02, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
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There's also a recording of Bob Cann playing it on this page (http://www.we7.com/#/album/Bob-Cann/West-Country-Melodeon).
Just goes to show you can't make much of a job of a tune on an instrument missing some of the key notes.

I think I discovered Bob Cann too late, when his playing wasn't as good as his early days.

I couldn't understand what the fuss was about, when I heard obvious wrong notes and clashing bass chords when he should have been cross-fingering to get the tune correct.
It still hurts to listen the third part of Primrose Polka where it should switch rows....

Having said that - his earlier recording which I discovered later were fab...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bill Young on February 02, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
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There's also a recording of Bob Cann playing it on this page (http://www.we7.com/#/album/Bob-Cann/West-Country-Melodeon).
Just goes to show you can't make much of a job of a tune on an instrument missing some of the key notes.

I think I discovered Bob Cann too late, when his playing wasn't as good as his early days.
I wasn't commenting on his standard of playing, which is probably very good for whatever instrument he is playing. "Woodland Flowers" is clearly outside the scope of that instrument. Played properly, i.e. what the composer wrote, there are three parts, in G, D and C, with additional #s in each part. A more comprehensive instrument, e.g. Will Starr's BCC#, would be appropriate for this tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: HallelujahAl on February 02, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
Bill - the 32 bar jig that Bob Cann plays is his adaptation of course. It is generally played as such in these parts and is pretty much a session standard played in D and with absolutely no accidentals at all. The Schottische or Barn Dance version that I (and probably you to I should imagine) am more familiar with is either in C and modulates to G & then F (the trio) or G,D [G] and then C (trio section). Either way it's a cracking tune and I'd love to have it as a tune of the month - I might get around to participating again then  :D I prefer Shand's recording of it by the way.
AL
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on February 02, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
I couldn't understand what the fuss was about, when I heard obvious wrong notes and clashing bass chords when he should have been cross-fingering to get the tune correct.
As I understand it. Bob Cann was from a school of melodeon playing where the chords didn't matter, rhythm was everything and the bass end was just tuned percussion. Cajun 1-row music is all "wrong chords" too (so is most 1 row melodeon music), but to hear it that way is to miss the point.

It still hurts to listen the third part of Primrose Polka where it should switch rows....
Can you direct me to a source of The Primrose Polka as She was wrote?
(recording or score, either would do)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on February 02, 2011, 08:29:57 PM
I learned Primrose Polka from this recording:  http://www.archive.org/details/PrimrosePolka (http://www.archive.org/details/PrimrosePolka)
Couldn't say how close it is to the original, but it's from a 78rpm record of Adam Rennie's dance band.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on February 02, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
It still hurts to listen the third part of Primrose Polka where it should switch rows....

Ah - I though you meant there should be a key change... now I've listened to Bob Cann again, I know what you mean.
Actually all he needed to do was switch basses/chords - the RH is OK.

I learned Primrose Polka from this recording:  http://www.archive.org/details/PrimrosePolka (http://www.archive.org/details/PrimrosePolka)
Couldn't say how close it is to the original, but it's from a 78rpm record of Adam Rennie's dance band.

Sweet! - thanks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on February 03, 2011, 01:46:40 PM
I've had scans of the dots for Primrose Polka emailed to me separately by two people now.
Thanks hugely to both Bill Young and steve_freereader, and if anyone else was thinking of doing the same, please don't now as my cup truly runneth over   :|glug  :|glug

What a wonderful place this is.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 08, 2011, 06:28:49 PM
In honour of his recent honour and upcoming tour, what about an Andy Cutting ThOTM for March?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: shift on February 08, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
Have you done History Man as Tune of the Month before?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on February 09, 2011, 08:51:29 AM
I really like History Man....how appropriate  (:)

or maybe Theme of the Month could be an Andy Cutting Tune  ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on February 09, 2011, 09:00:24 AM
I have a theory about the History Man, I think it may have appeared after Andy had been playing The Buffoon from Adderbury. But it's just a theory.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on February 09, 2011, 09:12:52 AM
I have a theory about the History Man, I think it may have appeared after Andy had been playing The Buffoon from Adderbury. But it's just a theory.
I see what you mean Lester...interesting

http://www.adderburymorris.org.uk/Adderbury.Morris/Tunes/Buffoon.html
 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on February 09, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
   non Brits - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12381136 .. paragraph 8
I didn't know that Norma was ill.  That's a drag.  I've got "The Gift," a great disc.  Calling it their first joint album is sort of amusing.

How about a theme in her honor:  Waterson:Carthy related tunes.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on February 09, 2011, 12:45:46 PM
What about a 'folk awards' theme?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on February 10, 2011, 08:45:39 AM
I didn't know that Norma was ill.  That's a drag.

Gosh - I missed that scrolling down to Andy! 3 months in ITU is beyond 'ill'  :o  Purgatory really. Poor Norma, and poor family

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I've got "The Gift," a great disc.  Calling it their first joint album is sort of amusing.

Er ..  disingenuous?

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on February 10, 2011, 04:59:15 PM
or maybe Theme of the Month could be an Andy Cutting Tune  ???

... now that's a nicely topical idea

    non Brits - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12381136 .. paragraph 8

Or even my post at the end of the last page.  ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 18, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
Just seen this, played by Ed Rennie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tA7gZS4tE

The Valiant, a 48 bar jig composed by Simon Ritchie - might make a nice TOTM?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on February 18, 2011, 10:28:44 AM
Theme has to be a March, in March.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on February 18, 2011, 11:12:16 AM
Just seen this, played by Ed Rennie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4tA7gZS4tE

The Valiant, a 48 bar jig composed by Simon Ritchie - might make a nice TOTM?

Great tune,  I've heard it played in many places, didn't realise it was written by Simon.
Great playing too, I've always been a inspired by Ed's playing. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on February 18, 2011, 12:11:48 PM
That'd make it an easy month for me  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 18, 2011, 01:31:06 PM
That'd make it an easy month for me  ;)


Ah yes, oops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqMIvKferH0

I must pay attention more!  :-*
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 02, 2011, 01:02:21 PM
Theme suggestion: One Tune to the Time Sig of Another....
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on March 02, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
Theme suggestion: One Tune to the Time Sig of Another....


That can be very fun.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: dahlberg on March 04, 2011, 06:26:22 PM
or playing minor tunes in major........
The Emma Wlatz then become the Ebbe Waltz
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 04, 2011, 06:39:33 PM
If we could widen the time signature idea to include tunes in unusual time signatures I have lots of interesting contributions, like 5/4 hornpipes, a Macedonian tune that's all in plain G major but 13/8 time, and a few other Balkan gems.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 05, 2011, 09:51:26 PM
theme suggestion: tune learned at a workshop.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 22, 2011, 11:04:24 PM
The next TOTM poll will appear a little late due to the holiday season; expect it on or around the 26th ...

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on April 23, 2011, 12:18:32 AM
It's about time we had East Anglian tunes as a TOTM or ThOTM.
I reckon enough of you
Let's see/hear what you can do with them.  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 26, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
It's about time we had East Anglian tunes as a TOTM or ThOTM.
I reckon enough of you
  • have a copy of Before the Night was Out
  • have been to EA workshops at Melodeons and More
  • have similarly been to EA workshops at Melodeons at Witney
  • have CDs of EA tunes/musicians
  • etc.
  • etc.
Let's see/hear what you can do with them.  :D

Great idea - I'll certainly use this in the next couple of months or so (but probably not this month). Are there any ABC collections of East Anglian music about?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on April 26, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
East Anglian ... is a great idea, but I don't think I'd know an East Anglian tune if it came up and bit me.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tufty on April 26, 2011, 05:12:24 PM
East Anglian ... is a great idea, but I don't think I'd know an East Anglian tune if it came up and bit me.  Suggestions?
Anything by Oscar Woods would be good. "Oh Joe the boat is going over" is one of my favourites: "English Music from East Anglia" Topic records 1973, but no doubt someone will know of a more easy to access version.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 26, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
Good excuse to get the one row out.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on April 26, 2011, 06:05:47 PM
East Anglian ... is a great idea, but I don't think I'd know an East Anglian tune if it came up and bit me.  Suggestions?
Anything by Oscar Woods would be good. "Oh Joe the boat is going over" is one of my favourites: "English Music from East Anglia" Topic records 1973, but no doubt someone will know of a more easy to access version.
Available on iTunes and e-music.  Consider it on the list.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 26, 2011, 06:42:04 PM
It's about time we had East Anglian tunes as a TOTM or ThOTM.
I reckon enough of you
  • have a copy of Before the Night was Out
  • have been to EA workshops at Melodeons and More
  • have similarly been to EA workshops at Melodeons at Witney
  • have CDs of EA tunes/musicians
  • etc.
  • etc.
Let's see/hear what you can do with them.  :D

Great idea - I'll certainly use this in the next couple of months or so (but probably not this month). Are there any ABC collections of East Anglian music about?

Cheers,

Clive

A little different than perhaps what Steve meant, but the collection of William Clarke (from Feltwell, Norfolk) can be found here - http://www.maryhumphreys.co.uk/WilliamClarketunes.abc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: dahlberg on April 29, 2011, 08:21:23 PM
Working tunes,like piling songs,fishing songs,counting songs etc.

Childrens tunes,you know,for kids.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Noodle on June 06, 2011, 02:51:40 PM
As a theme, what about fast, lively tunes slowed down and mellowed? A while ago a group of us were all knackered and after a good chucking about of the usual tunes, we had a go at playing some of them slow. It remains the most relaxing and one of the most enjoyable sessions I've been part of, and it allowed us all to try new things and introduced different elements to tunes that would normally be played at breakneck speed
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on June 06, 2011, 04:12:13 PM
Whilst I'm obviously delighted at Ollie giving Mary's site another plug, Before The Night Was Out (http://www.eatmt.org.uk/bnwo_details.htm) has to be the definitive collection of what most people would call East Anglian music, especially from Norfolk and Suffolk, and it's available on line from the EATMT site on that link.

While the book's tunes content no doubt exists in machine readable form (whether graphics, ABC, PDF or other), I would guess none of that material is for publication on the internet as EATMT own the copyright and want you to buy the book -thoroughly recommended, of course.

There are ABC files of some of the better known Norfolk and Suffolk tunes all over the place, transcribed from various recordings, but you have to search for them - I'm not aware of a collection of them.


Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on June 07, 2011, 07:00:09 PM
Can I suggest a tune of the month...'Spootiskerry' it was totm over on fiddle forum a while back I printed it off, forgot about it and have just tried it on melodeon. Sounds nice, but brain having to handle some row crossing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: sqwzboxstudent on June 07, 2011, 10:43:35 PM
i like the idea of east anglian tunes, how many versions of "pigeon on the gate" can we get?  :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 07, 2011, 10:02:47 AM
What about 'improvisation' as a theme? Could be very interesting!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: baz parkes on July 07, 2011, 10:54:05 AM
Good excuse to get the one row out.

Why do you need an excuse...? :D

xx
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on July 07, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
What about 'improvisation' as a theme? Could be very interesting!
As in play what your fingers want to play or as in improvise extra bits to existing tunes?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Alan Morley on July 07, 2011, 11:25:18 AM
What about 'improvisation' as a theme? Could be very interesting!
As in play what your fingers want to play or as in improvise extra bits to existing tunes?

I'd imagine that Ollie has something in mind like the improvisation around a tune as happens in jazz a lot. When the basic tune is still there somewhere if you listen.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on July 07, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
Could be both. Just improvising straight off might prove difficult for some, but it would be really interesting to see what people came up with from just, as LdT says, playing what their fingers wanted to play. I actually find improvising around a tune more difficult.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 13, 2011, 07:19:58 PM
This is a lovely slow air written by Alistair Anderson, the midi playback makes it sound pretty wooden but in reality it flows beautifully. I've never heard it played on pipes and it certainly wasn't written with pipes in mind but I can hear drones going in my head and I'd love to hear what people come up with. So here is the strangely titled Air For Maurice Ogg.

X:1
T:Air For Maurice Ogg, The
C:From Steel Skies by Alistair Anderson
Q:1/4=110
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
de | f3 A A2 d=c | B d3 G2 AG | F3 A d3 A | d>e f<a e2 de | f2 A2 A2 d=c|
"6"B3 G E2 AG | F3 A d3 A | d>e f<e d2 cd || e3 A A2 ce | d3 B G>A B<d |
"11"=c>B A<G F>A G>E | F2 D2 D2 ^cd | e2 A2 A2 ce | f2 d2 A>d f<a | g>e cB A<a g>e | d6|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on August 14, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
What about theme of 'dance music' - tunes associated with a dance etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellisteph on August 28, 2011, 05:44:57 PM
Did everyone notice that Philippe Bruneau died on 7th August? How about a tunes thread dedicated to his accordion music?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on August 28, 2011, 08:13:31 PM
I agree with the Bruneau idea.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Andy in Vermont on October 08, 2011, 08:13:16 PM
I agree with the Bruneau idea.

I think it is a nice idea, too.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on October 12, 2011, 12:54:18 PM
If it hasn't already been suggested - a Christmas theme for December?  Perhaps just generic "your favourite Christmas tune" for the Theme and something like In Dulci Jubilo for the Tune (might be down as Good Christian Men Rejoice also).  Nice bouncy tune that I think would work well.

: 1
T: In Dulci Jubilo
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: hornpipe
K: Dmaj
defg aba-a|defg aba-a|abag f2d2|e-efe defg|
abag f2d2|eefe de (3fed|B2c2d2 a-a/g/|f2e2d4:|

I actually slightly prefer this version I think, although I'm not convinced by the chords:

X: 1
T: In Dulci Jubilo
C: Heinrich Suso 1537
R: jig
Z: 2008 John Chambers <jc:trillian.mit.edu>
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: G
G \
| "G"G2G "(D)"B2c | "G"d2e "D"d2d \
| "G"G2G B2c | "D"d2e d2d \
| "G"d2e "D"d2c | "Em"B2A G2G \
| "Am"A2A "D"B2A | "Em"G2A B2 |]
B \
| "G"d2e "D"d2c | "Em"B2A G2G \
| "C"A2A "D"B2A | "Em"G2A "Bm"B2B \
| "C"E2E "D"FEF | "Em"G3 "D"d3 \
| "G"B2B "D7"AGA | "G"G3- G2 |]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on October 12, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5477.0.html
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,3034.0.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uttzFGLYraw

:P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on October 12, 2011, 02:06:23 PM
Heh, that search box doesn't work very well then.  I searched for Jubilo and nothing came up.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on October 12, 2011, 02:07:06 PM
Heh, that search box doesn't work very well then.  I searched for Jubilo and nothing came up.

It is indeed completely useless :P
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on October 12, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
I like the Christmas theme; it get's me all Christmassy!  ;)

I wasn't planning to do it again this year though, because the take up when we repeated it last year wasn't that great. But, if people do want it back again, now's a good time to say!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on October 12, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
Well, speaking as the noob in the room, it's a good theme from the point of view of collecting tunes that people are likely to want to hear.  There's always concerts and carolling and so forth going on in December and there's more likely to be a wider audience for folk-style instruments, so having a few festive show pieces up your sleeve can't be a bad thing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tufty on October 12, 2011, 05:13:59 PM
I like the Christmas theme; it get's me all Christmassy!  ;)

I wasn't planning to do it again this year though, because the take up when we repeated it last year wasn't that great. But, if people do want it back again, now's a good time to say!

Cheers,

Clive
I can think of some west gallery type carols that would be ideal.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on October 12, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
Bah! Humbug!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on October 12, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
How about, Music from the Tropics, for December.  We can do Hawaiian Slack Key Melodeon.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on October 12, 2011, 05:43:14 PM
I've got a song somewhere called Christmas in Waikiki.  No idea how it'd work on Melodeon though.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on October 14, 2011, 01:56:32 AM
I like the christmas theme (:) There are some lovely carols out there.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: smiley on October 19, 2011, 10:14:37 PM
Just thought I'd put in my tuppence worth:

For some TOTMs I'd like to hear how people play Mad Moll of the Cheshire Hunt and Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel.
And for a ThOTM I'd like to suggest tunes from Australia.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on October 21, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
Just thought I'd put in my tuppence worth:

For some TOTMs I'd like to hear how people play Mad Moll of the Cheshire Hunt and Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel.
And for a ThOTM I'd like to suggest tunes from Australia.

Nice TOTM suggestions; though looking at Beatrice Hill's, I'd call that Fiddler Locke's which is what I've heard it called on an All Blacked Up album, I've believe. Is it generally known by one name or the other?

Re: Australia, yes I've considered this for a while, but have been put off in the past because I don't really know many sources of Australian tunes. Is there anyone you think I should be listening to that I could learn a few Australian tunes off?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on October 26, 2011, 08:11:51 PM
Here's a suggestion for a future TOTM. A great Quebecois tune learnt from my friend Jake (brinwins on here).

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|edef e2 d2|
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|e2 f2 g4:|
|:gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD |edef e2 d2|
gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD|e2 f2 g4:|

I guess it can be played at 'proper' speed, but it makes a very nice English smooth hornpipe too.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on November 02, 2011, 10:40:59 AM
How about "Tunes From Valkyrie's Tunebook" as a theme?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Simon on November 02, 2011, 10:47:06 AM
Heh, that search box doesn't work very well then.  I searched for Jubilo and nothing came up.

It is indeed completely useless :P
Make sure you're using one of the search boxes on the home page, otherwise you're just searching part of the forum. I keep making the same mistake though.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on November 02, 2011, 12:03:27 PM
I've got a song somewhere called Christmas in Waikiki.  No idea how it'd work on Melodeon though.

Oddly enough, I was once in Waikiki at Christmas - it was a very strange experience, what with the artificial snow and holly and Santas (Santae?) ho-ho-hoing in the 28deg temperatures,and the "White Christmas" hula in the hotel bar......
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on November 12, 2011, 09:12:25 AM
What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on November 12, 2011, 09:41:47 AM
What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: smiley on November 13, 2011, 07:54:06 AM

Re: Australia, yes I've considered this for a while, but have been put off in the past because I don't really know many sources of Australian tunes. Is there anyone you think I should be listening to that I could learn a few Australian tunes off?

Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking to me  ::)

Here are a few sources for Oz tunes on the web:
http://australianfolk.blogspot.com/
http://folkstream.com/songs.html
http://www.bushtraditions.org/sessions/nosuchthing.htm
http://www.wongawillicolonialdance.org.au/page/MusicBookResources/

Unfortunately some of my favourite books of Australian dance tune music are out of print now.  I'll ask around for some more suggestions ...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Keithypete. on November 23, 2011, 06:48:37 AM
What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.





   Hopefully someone will furnish us with the abc/dots wether it wins or not!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on November 23, 2011, 08:05:15 AM
   Hopefully someone will furnish us with the abc/dots wether it wins or not!

http://folktunefinder.com/tune/197579/ is something like what you usually hear in an English session.
http://folktunefinder.com/tune/4717/ is more like what I'm looking for. The trouble is I don't know exactly I'm looking for...

(there are several other variants on that site)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on November 23, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.

Geert Oude Weernink heard us play "Bear Dance" at Whitney in 2009 and made it entirely clear next day that the Anglophone melodeonistas  ;) had it 'simplified' and 'wrong'.

      I suspect someone half remembered it from a European festival and would consider putting money on that being Dave Roberts. Dave was a close friend of the van Doorn family of Joordan, who were in turn pretty central in NEVO (Holland's EFDSS  in those days). I vaguely remember doing the dance in the Amersfoort folk camp in 1979. Put that together with Blowsabella popularising the tune in their early years ...

Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4

I don't have a recording of Geert playing but do recall that the main difference was that the tune went "up again" in the second half of the A music rather than that really arguably dull B A G F# cadence that we all play in English sessions.  The above is pretty close to my memory of what he played

[edit] Gadzooks - here's an Asturian version! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PArORyJLELc  Spain did of course used to own the Low Counties.  Note it's a dance (definite Basque influences in this incarnation).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on November 23, 2011, 11:14:20 AM
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.

Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4


Many, many moons ago - late 60s or very early 70s - on an exchange visit with a Belgian dance group, I learned, from the Belgian musicians, a version of the tune in which the A music is subsantially the same as the B music in the YouTube video and the B music is distantly related to the various A musics floating round.  I've never got my head round the English session version, partly because "my" version is so firmly ingrained in my musical memory and partly because I've always played it the other way round (we've been here before with the Rochdale Nutters!), as I learned it from our Belgian hosts.  They also took it much slower than it's often played.  I definitely play it the way they did because I jotted down the dots at the time and got them to confirm that what I'd written down was what they played.  That doesn't make it "right", of course - just another version. Unfortunately I can't at this distance recall whether it was Bruges, Ghent or Antwerp - certainly one of the three.  I'll see if I can find time to do a quick recording - then at least I'll be ahead of the game if it ever does come up as TOTM!

Graham
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on November 23, 2011, 11:28:39 AM

Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4


Another name for it: "Krebbel Reidans"
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: docEdock on November 23, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
I would enjoy the 12 bar blues as a Theme of the Month. Plus, after the holidays, the blues might be particularly appropriate. I'm working on Easy Blues (Yann Dour, Vol.2 : La mélodie, p. 34) and find it a struggle to keep my left hand from leaving the room. As Brian Peters wrote, the air button plays a role. Well, yes, indeed. The PMilleret - Pignol / Vidéos pédagogiques / blues would also seem to fit in.

. . . The trick is basically to play 'backwards' like Cajun players do, e.g. by playing in A on the D row.  If you're doing this on a D/G instrument you can achieve two classic bluesy sounds quite easily: the flattened 7th (G natural in the key of A) is right there under your fingers on the D row, and you can pull a nice bluesy mini-chord of E & G with your right hand; also you can get the 'blue third' effect by slurring from C natural on the G row to C sharp on the D row (still pulling).  With a bit of row-crossing you can find a nice blues scale (A - C/C# - E - F# - G) on the pull.  Using my RH lower octave stop beefs up the sound no end, and I always play without thirds on the LH in any case.  The only problem is that you end up on the pull a lot of the time, so you either have to use the air button to recover bellows postion at intervals, or find interesting bluesy things to do agains a pushed D chord (not easy unless you have a few extra accidentals).

The other thing you need is a bit of attitude.  Given that, even the 'wrong' notes can come out sounding like the blues.


Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on November 23, 2011, 11:43:39 PM
How about "Tunes From Valkyrie's Tunebook" as a theme?

Hmmm. Not really inclusive enough to run as a theme I think. Unless we could have a list of the names of the tunes printed in the book of course...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Valkyrie on November 27, 2011, 04:42:04 PM
This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

Alex

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on November 27, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

Alex




OK, well, there are two titles there I recognise.........yes, I know that says more about me than about anything else.. :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on November 27, 2011, 11:08:50 PM
This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

Alex

Oooh. There's some crackers amongst that lot, and a fair range from the fairly simple (e.g. Canal in October) to the ridiculously difficult! I quite like the idea actually, because it gives the ability to promote some of the wonderful repertoire of these fantastic players without necessarily restricting ourselves too much (in general, I think the 'compositions of one person' themes are usually too limited in terms of number of tunes available to work well - this is quite a nice way round that).

I'd only consider it though if there wasn't a problem publishing the list of names of the tunes as part of the theme, and provided none of the eight authors, yourself included of course, had a problem with people learning, recording and posting the odd video of their compositions on youtube, etc.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on December 13, 2011, 04:16:40 PM
For an unusual theme of the month, perhaps we could do something like famous film themes?  I'm a huge fan of John Williams myself.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 17, 2011, 12:04:34 PM
For reasons best known to myself I've collected together as many tunes as I can find with the title 'Trip to ...' or similar. This could perhaps be a suitable ThOTM? ABC file is attached.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 08, 2012, 11:58:06 AM
How about Idbury Hill?  I really loved th mp3 that Anahata posted recently
or Dance from Hessen - dots to be found herehttp://www.musicaviva.com/sheetmusic/score.html?vivaid=dance-from-hessen (http://www.musicaviva.com/sheetmusic/score.html?vivaid=dance-from-hessen)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: forrest on January 10, 2012, 01:52:58 AM
For reasons best known to myself I've collected together as many tunes as I can find with the title 'Trip to ...' or similar. This could perhaps be a suitable ThOTM? ABC file is attached.

I like this theme Pete, but could it not be broadened a bit to include things like Road to Lisdoonvarna, Rocky Road to Dublin, Goin' to Kansas City, Off to California or to simplify: Traveling tunes ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on January 10, 2012, 02:44:51 AM
Another vote for Idbury Hill.  I like Lester's version with capers. (I think that is what they are called).

(danger=non-Morris speaking foreigner)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve C. on January 10, 2012, 02:47:07 AM
Forgot to nominate:

Weasel in the Grass.

Nice, fun, 3 parts, not hard.  I guess it is a Morris Jig?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 10, 2012, 07:45:46 AM
Forgot to nominate:

Weasel in the Grass.

Nice, fun, 3 parts, not hard.  I guess it is a Morris Jig?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-D3CKurt0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-D3CKurt0)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 10, 2012, 08:07:54 PM
For reasons best known to myself I've collected together as many tunes as I can find with the title 'Trip to ...' or similar. This could perhaps be a suitable ThOTM? ABC file is attached.

I like this theme Pete, but could it not be broadened a bit to include things like Road to Lisdoonvarna, Rocky Road to Dublin, Goin' to Kansas City, Off to California or to simplify: Traveling tunes ;D

I don't see why not!  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 15, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
One that EeeJay played yesterday - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3016

Gorgeous tune!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tom on January 26, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
For an unusual theme of the month, perhaps we could do something like famous film themes?  I'm a huge fan of John Williams myself.

ooh ooh, lets do that!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 26, 2012, 04:03:40 PM
I agree. Famous film themes could prove to be a very interesting Theme of the Month.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on February 06, 2012, 09:43:28 AM
I agree. Famous film themes could prove to be a very interesting Theme of the Month.

Great idea!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ebor_fiddler on February 06, 2012, 11:18:08 AM
Well, I've danced to "Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines" before now.  :D Out of Africa anyone?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on February 13, 2012, 04:28:03 PM
What about for a theme swing tunes or tunes with swing rhythm...?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on February 13, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
Film themes with a swing rythm, now you're talking!  Sun Valley Serenade here we come......
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: birchy on February 22, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
How about Tom tulley's Hornpipe. I've just heard it on hardcore English and it's lovely.  There's an abc on the session site.
David
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Just4Fun on February 22, 2012, 04:25:51 PM
Birchy, I agree It's a lovely tune and I'm always surprised it doesn't come up more at sessions.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mike Carney on February 24, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
How about Sweet Hesleyside - a slow Northumbrian Air?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on February 24, 2012, 06:17:19 PM
How about Tom tulley's Hornpipe. I've just heard it on hardcore English and it's lovely.  There's an abc on the session site.
David

Great tune, also know as Tom Fowler's and available with two major alternative versions of the B music, one with 4 bars more than the other.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mike Carney on February 27, 2012, 05:59:15 PM
A good slower tune is Planxty Irwin by O'Carolan.
Mike
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Noodle on March 03, 2012, 09:43:16 PM
As someone who's prone to mixing tunes up, what do people think to mashing 2 (or more) tunes together? Could either be as simple as putting the A part of one tune with the B part of another, or using elements of 2 tunes together, resulting in what could possibly be classed as a completely new tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on March 04, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
This can cause problems in some instances.

For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2, possibly without realising that it is from a different tune. Sometimes when I start Walter Bulwer's in a session, other musicians charge straight into the B music of The Quaker without taking a blind bit of notice that I am playing the B music of Walter Bulwer's. Frustrating!

...anyway, why would you want to mix up the A and B musics of different tunes?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 04, 2012, 02:19:11 PM

   .. to improve the breed  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 04, 2012, 02:20:19 PM
For fun?  ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 04, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
By accident.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on March 05, 2012, 01:38:44 AM
It would confuse the hell out of me. Then again, I have a remarkable facility for doing it naturally...

Actually I'm more likely to only be able to remember one half of a tune at the moment. My memory for tunes is all over the place, always has been.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 05, 2012, 10:14:58 AM
This can cause problems in some instances.

For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2, possibly without realising that it is from a different tune. Sometimes when I start Walter Bulwer's in a session, other musicians charge straight into the B music of The Quaker without taking a blind bit of notice that I am playing the B music of Walter Bulwer's. Frustrating!

...anyway, why would you want to mix up the A and B musics of different tunes?
I agree with Bob. There is enough potential for confusion of A and B musics without deliberately introducing another factor. My pet hate is when I start the Redowa Polka in a session. When we get to the B music there is invariably some cloth-eared plonker who belts out the B music of 'Girl with a Blue Dress On'  >:(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 05, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
In the format of I'm sorry I haven't a clue...what abot one song to the tune of another? ;) :p
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on March 05, 2012, 03:27:25 PM
In the format of I'm sorry I haven't a clue...what about one song to the tune of another? ;) :p

Hasn't this been done already? There are probably very few folk tunes to which While Shepherds Watch hasn't been sung.  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 05, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
This can cause problems in some instances.

For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2, possibly without realising that it is from a different tune. Sometimes when I start Walter Bulwer's in a session, other musicians charge straight into the B music of The Quaker without taking a blind bit of notice that I am playing the B music of Walter Bulwer's. Frustrating!

...anyway, why would you want to mix up the A and B musics of different tunes?
I agree with Bob. There is enough potential for confusion of A and B musics without deliberately introducing another factor. My pet hate is when I start the Redowa Polka in a session. When we get to the B music there is invariably some cloth-eared plonker who belts out the B music of 'Girl with a Blue Dress On'  >:(

If they don't know any better, then it's hardly their fault. I can understand the frustration, but I think you're both being a little harsh.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Rob2Hook on March 05, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
This can cause problems in some instances.

For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2, possibly without realising that it is from a different tune. Sometimes when I start Walter Bulwer's in a session, other musicians charge straight into the B music of The Quaker without taking a blind bit of notice that I am playing the B music of Walter Bulwer's. Frustrating!

...anyway, why would you want to mix up the A and B musics of different tunes?

I guess much of that problem comes from the recordings that Walter Bulwer made using the B part of the Quaker.  Apparently he thought it was better than the original.

Rob.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 05, 2012, 05:58:27 PM
For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2

Largely, I suspect, because it's in one of Nick Barber's tune books that way.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on March 06, 2012, 12:55:47 AM
This can cause problems in some instances.

For example, quite a few people play the B music of The Quaker with the A music of Walter Bulwer's Polka No.2, possibly without realising that it is from a different tune. Sometimes when I start Walter Bulwer's in a session, other musicians charge straight into the B music of The Quaker without taking a blind bit of notice that I am playing the B music of Walter Bulwer's. Frustrating!

...anyway, why would you want to mix up the A and B musics of different tunes?
I agree with Bob. There is enough potential for confusion of A and B musics without deliberately introducing another factor. My pet hate is when I start the Redowa Polka in a session. When we get to the B music there is invariably some cloth-eared plonker who belts out the B music of 'Girl with a Blue Dress On'  >:(

If they don't know any better, then it's hardly their fault. I can understand the frustration, but I think you're both being a little harsh.
Possibly, but in my opinion if you're playing at a session, you should be listening to each other, and especially listening to whoever started the tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Noodle on March 06, 2012, 04:21:10 AM
I can understand the frustration of 2 tunes being mashed together in a session that were written a different way (I've been a culprit of this myself, it seems), but the Theme of the Month is a different beast, surely. It's to encourage difference, originality and apart from that, it would be either in the title or description of the recording.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on March 06, 2012, 05:35:00 PM
Wot Steve said! It is courtesy to follow the lead of whoever started a tune and it is bad manners to play louder to drown out the person who started the tune when you realise that you are playing something different from them. Not everyone does this when they realise they are playing something different, but I have seen it happen a few times. For instance, a concertina player in The Elsinore at Whitby did this twice in the same evening with two different tunes!

I didn't realise until Rob mentioned it in this thread that Walter Bulwer himself sometimes played the B music of The Quaker with the A music of his Polka No.2, which probably explains why Nick Barber noted it in his book that way. However, I would still maintain that it is polite to follow the lead of whoever started the tune, even if they decide to put the A music of one tune with the B music of one you don't think goes together with it very well. If one doesn't like the combination, one can always have a rest, go to the loo, buy another drink or whatever.

This has taken the discussion away from the original proposition abouting mixing tunes together as a possible Theme of the Month. It doesn't appeal to me personally but, in a democracy, I am prepared to be outvoted....Oh, hang on, this isn't a democracy, it's a Cliveocracy.  >:E

In case anyone thinks I am criticising Clive's choices for Theme of the Month, I am not. Well done that man!
Title: Suggestion for future Theme of the Month
Post by: bellmartin on March 10, 2012, 04:13:23 AM
For a future Theme of the Month, how about the tarantella?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 10, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Instead of A music from one tune and B music from another, how about a more homogeneous mixture of two tunes?
When we had The Ash Grove for ToTM, I did a set of variations in which the last was an unholy marriage between The Ash Grove and Stoney Steps. I'm sure simpler examples are possible  (:)

Related to that, and perhaps easier, is one tune in the style (especially rhythm) of another. Turning a jig into a waltz by playing it at half speed, or a morris tune as a mazurka, that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 10, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
Instead of A music from one tune and B music from another, how about a more homogeneous mixture of two tunes?

That usually takes quite a lot of prior machination - a very interesting challenge though.

I did manage to sing the whole of an English folk song (think it was "Cousin Joe") as a 12 bar Blues at last year's Oxford Dance Camp  8) - but that's not the same thing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 10, 2012, 10:52:11 AM
Apropos of nothing, I prefer ThoTM(s) where the theme helps me to expand my repertoire of tunes I want to go on playing - in my case that's mostly English dance tunes. So I'd prefer something like tunes from a given collection, e.g. William Irwin or maybe a regional theme as in the recent discussion of tunes from the Yorkshire Dales. Even though I've not contributed to the Schottisches theme (yet?!) it's much more fruitful for me than the current Film Themes where I might learn summat like Star Wars as a novelty but would probably never play it again.  I don't think I was around when the Morris theme was done and I'm sure there's more could be done with that too - I love Morris tunes! Right, I'll shut up now. (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on March 10, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
Instead of A music from one tune and B music from another, how about a more homogeneous mixture of two tunes?


Morpeth Lasses works with the bass and rhythm line from Stevie Wonder's 'Superstition'
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 10, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
... Even though I've not contributed to the Schottisches theme (yet?!) it's much more fruitful for me than the current Film Themes where I might learn summat like Star Wars as a novelty but would probably never play it again. 

Ah, with a little sneaky planning though, you can do both a film theme and add to your ceilidh-style tunes repertoire.

The Floral Dance,  for example - anyone remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RM6MQJRjAs (tune starts properly about 2 min in) - cracking tune. I was considering a crack at this one myself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcFyCmCjjI - the Moulin Rouge waltz, which is another lovely tune (learning up something else now though!); and of course the movie Mamma Mia has enabled just about all of Abba's most well known songs, a large number of which are very playable/danceable...



Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 11, 2012, 11:26:30 AM
Good point, Clive. A few tune suggestions like that to go with a slightly quirky ThOTM would be most helpful for a dullard like me. I often feel a bit flummoxed as to where to look. (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 14, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
Tarentella gets my vote!

And for Theme of the Month, how about Eurovision Song Contest song tunes?   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ebor_fiddler on March 21, 2012, 01:32:16 AM
Naughty!  >:E >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on March 24, 2012, 04:16:58 AM
Suggestions for Theme of the Month:

- Stephen Foster songs
- National anthems and other national songs (Waltzing Matilda, Rule Britannia, Flower of Scotland, etc.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 24, 2012, 07:15:52 AM
Eurovision tunes is such a wicked idea. And I know I've said this before, "Waltzing Mathilda" was the first tune I ever played on a Castagnari ..

[anecdote]
    Whitby festival 1986. I want one
    Wife squirms uncomfortably. Infant Mathilda in her arms
    begins a little wimper. A month's family income on a BOX?
[/anecdote]

But doesn't life come round in circles? We put Mathilda onto the Sydney plane last week and she now lives in Bondi. D'y'know, the re-connection with Oz's famous song never entered our heads. Coolibah, as they say :|glug  Must practice it ...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 26, 2012, 03:05:10 PM
Eurovision tunes is such a wicked idea. And I know I've said this before, "Waltzing Mathilda" was the first tune I ever played on a Castagnari ..

[anecdote]
    Whitby festival 1986. I want one
    Wife squirms uncomfortably. Infant Mathilda in her arms
    begins a little wimper. A month's family income on a BOX?
[/anecdote]

But doesn't life come round in circles? We put Mathilda onto the Sydney plane last week and she now lives in Bondi. D'y'know, the re-connection with Oz's famous song never entered our heads. Coolibah, as they say :|glug  Must practice it ...
Boom, bang a bang....... >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 26, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
Or, having just rediscovered Jackie Daly and Seamus Creagh, how about 'Irish polkas and slides' as theme of the month?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on March 26, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
Or, having just rediscovered Jackie Daly and Seamus Creagh, how about 'Irish polkas and slides' as theme of the month?
I'd second that one.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 02, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Not sure if this has been nominated or put up for a vote before, but what about Galopede? Personally, I've a new found love for the tune after playing it with JK and others at the War Horse Folk Music School a week or two back (http://soundcloud.com/olliekingbox/galopede).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on April 03, 2012, 09:23:01 PM
How about 'Topless melodeon playing' as Theme of the Month?
Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsKDS3MT3E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ef08ebRVAAAAAAAACQ

I don't know why......  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 03, 2012, 09:47:27 PM
How about 'Topless melodeon playing' as Theme of the Month?
Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsKDS3MT3E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ef08ebRVAAAAAAAACQ

I don't know why......  ;D

Not sure many in our demographic would look as good as him whilst doing that, sure I would not  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: myhuckleberryfriend on April 03, 2012, 10:14:31 PM
Some of us have bulges which might affect smooth bellows action .........

Ouch.

(Tried it)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on April 03, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
How about 'Topless melodeon playing' as Theme of the Month?
Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsKDS3MT3E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2ef08ebRVAAAAAAAACQ

I don't know why......  ;D

Hmm, very nice.  :P ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 03, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
A counter proposal of playing melodeon wearing a garish /interesting top...or maybe in 'costume'.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: myhuckleberryfriend on April 03, 2012, 10:39:49 PM
Suit of armour?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on April 04, 2012, 08:15:50 AM
Suit of armour?
No proud parent can resist such a cue ..

Get your Arms round a "heavy metal"
melodeon at The Ryall Armouries (http://www.ryallarmouries.co.uk/portfolio/index.htm)
He actually plays guitar  ???

Bespoke grill anyone?
  (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/299672_10150476719042573_687517572_10047049_1717676734_n.jpg) (http://www.ryallarmouries.co.uk/portfolio/index.htm)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 04, 2012, 08:32:02 AM
A counter proposal of playing melodeon wearing a garish shirt

Been there, seen it, done it, got large collection of said shirts

 Ashokan Farewell with two shirts  :o  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy on April 04, 2012, 08:53:06 AM
Wear what you like but it must 'accessorize' with your bellows  :D

The garish shirts seem quite popular  8)

Note tactical thread drift  :Ph

Cheers

Sandy

 (:)
note to self...cut down on the emoticons
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 04, 2012, 12:11:57 PM
As for tunes what about 'paddy careys (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/181019/)' and sally sloanes (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/160444/) barn dance?
Two of which can be heard on this audio
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=28355
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on April 11, 2012, 05:15:07 AM
Theme of the Month idea: the lullaby
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 11, 2012, 10:06:27 AM
I was thinking maybe as its been running so long and some beginners might find it intimidating to join in...we could have a beginners showcase thread? So the beginners-improver level players can pick any tune that's been tune of the month and put up a video of it? Just to ease them into the TOTM style. I'd volunteer to moderate the thread.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 11, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
I was thinking maybe as its been running so long and some beginners might find it intimidating to join in...we could have a beginners showcase thread? So the beginners-improver level players can pick any tune that's been tune of the month and put up a video of it? Just to ease them into the TOTM style. I'd volunteer to moderate the thread.

Sounds like a good plan! You're thinking about a sticky separate thread withing the TOTM board I take it? Do you have permissions to do that, or do I need to grant you stuff?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 11, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
I was thinking maybe as its been running so long and some beginners might find it intimidating to join in...we could have a beginners showcase thread? So the beginners-improver level players can pick any tune that's been tune of the month and put up a video of it? Just to ease them into the TOTM style. I'd volunteer to moderate the thread.

Sounds like a good plan! You're thinking about a sticky separate thread withing the TOTM board I take it? Do you have permissions to do that, or do I need to grant you stuff?

Cheers,

Clive
Yes. Exactly...I will go test to see if I have the permissions. I think do. btw. where is the list of all the tunes that have been chosen for totm? Just so I can list or link to the list.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 11, 2012, 11:32:49 AM
btw. where is the list of all the tunes that have been chosen for totm? Just so I can list or link to the list.

In my head unfortunately! You could also get it from Lester's 'all the performances' spreadsheet though.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 11, 2012, 12:08:00 PM
btw. where is the list of all the tunes that have been chosen for totm? Just so I can list or link to the list.

In my head unfortunately! You could also get it from Lester's 'all the performances' spreadsheet though.

Cheers,

Clive
I will have to type something up when I get some time at the weekend.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 11, 2012, 06:02:48 PM
btw. where is the list of all the tunes that have been chosen for totm? Just so I can list or link to the list.

In my head unfortunately! You could also get it from Lester's 'all the performances' spreadsheet though.

Cheers,

Clive
I will have to type something up when I get some time at the weekend.

I can produce the list fairly easily if you want
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on April 11, 2012, 06:11:26 PM
I was thinking maybe as its been running so long and some beginners might find it intimidating to join in...we could have a beginners showcase thread? So the beginners-improver level players can pick any tune that's been tune of the month and put up a video of it? Just to ease them into the TOTM style. I'd volunteer to moderate the thread.

I would like to participate, but currently the technical aspects of making the video are an added hurdle to learning the songs. I know there's a forum category for that, and it looks very helpful. I do plan to study it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 11, 2012, 06:17:29 PM
I was thinking maybe as its been running so long and some beginners might find it intimidating to join in...we could have a beginners showcase thread? So the beginners-improver level players can pick any tune that's been tune of the month and put up a video of it? Just to ease them into the TOTM style. I'd volunteer to moderate the thread.

I would like to participate, but currently the technical aspects of making the video are an added hurdle to learning the songs. I know there's a forum category for that, and it looks very helpful. I do plan to study it.

Some stuff here (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2590.0.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 11, 2012, 07:54:27 PM
That would be great lester.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Susi on April 11, 2012, 09:18:47 PM
Excellent idea Sarah, I'm looking forward to the thread and will definitely join in there.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on April 11, 2012, 10:03:31 PM
A video is not essential, just an audio recording will do fine.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 11, 2012, 10:04:02 PM
That would be great lester.

   October 2009      Speed the Plough   
   November 2009      L'Inconnu d'Limoise    
   December 2009      Princess Royal   
   January 2010      Ashokan Farewell   
   February 2010      Orange in Bloom/Sherbourne Waltz   
   March 2010      The Plane Tree/Schottische a Bethanie      
   April 2010      Battle of the Somme   
   May 2010      Michael Turner's Waltz   
   June 2010      Rusty Gully   
   July 2010      Cock of the North   
   August 2010      Nutting Girl   
   September 2010      Liberty Bell   
   October 2010      Canal in October   
   November 2010      Steamboat Hornpipe   
   December 2010              Moon and Seven Stars   
   January 2011      La Marianne   
   February 2011      Dark Girl Dressed in Blue   
   March 2011      The Cheshire Waltz   
   April 2011      La Roulante/LNB Polka   
   May 2011      Ash Grove   
   June 2011      Lemmy Brazil No. 2   
   July 2011      Three Around Three   
   August 2011      Brighton Camp   
   September 2011      Oh! Joe the Boat is Going Over   
   October 2011      The Sloe   
   November 2011      Beatrice Hill's Three Handed Reel   
   December 2011      Inna Inna   
   January 2012      Bear Dance   
   February 2012      Rabbit Stew   
   March 2012      Idbury Hill   
   April 2012      Planxty Irwin   


Or as a spreadsheet which I will endeavour to keep up to date here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Altk6aWGBeIidFJjMnNweFhocEJaUnJFTEJ6VlB5UEE)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 11, 2012, 10:06:25 PM
I will also try catch up with the All The Performances sheets and ToTM Tune Book by the end of next week but am currently up to my nethers in customers dead/sickly melodeons and TSMB and I are going away for a few days.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 11, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
TSMB and I are going away for a few days.

I do hope this won't interfere with the good lady's photographic output!  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 11, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
TSMB and I are going away for a few days.

I do hope this won't interfere with the good lady's photographic output!  ;D

I kind of doubt it  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 12, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
TSMB and I are going away for a few days.

I do hope this won't interfere with the good lady's photographic output!  ;D

I kind of doubt it  ;)
I photograph all my sewing/baking...its the only way I remember what I did right/wrong.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on April 12, 2012, 09:30:46 AM
ok.
so here is the beginners showcase
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,9228.msg114799.html
let me know if I need to amend the text etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Jackhumphreys on April 23, 2012, 09:55:55 AM
Theme Idea:   Irregular time signatures e.g. 5/4, 7/8, 11/8, 12/8..... ??? etc etc.
Building on Ollie's posting of Bobbityshooty.
OK it's a bit esoteric maybe, but not in the Balkans. And great on the melodeon, as the basses can spell out the irregular divisions.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on April 23, 2012, 01:46:45 PM
Theme Idea:   Irregular time signatures e.g. 5/4, 7/8, 11/8, 12/8..... ???
OK it's a bit esoteric maybe, but not in the Balkans.
And not in Alsace!  I support this idea!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on April 23, 2012, 02:13:36 PM
Or in Sweden or in Quebec :P Well, if crooked tunes count as irregular time signatures anyway (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on April 23, 2012, 06:32:24 PM
What is an irregular time sig?  Surely 5/4 is regular?  It has the same number of beats in every bar?

Just asking, I'm not trying to stir things up.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Jackhumphreys on April 23, 2012, 09:13:29 PM
Quite right Theo.  ;)  There are tunes where the time sig changes mid-tune. And there are tunes with the same time sig regularly beating away  all the way through.  So those odder  ones,  7/8,   11/8  etc are regular too.

I don't know the proper name for those wonky Balkan time sigs. I know that they have unequal beats, so Kopenitza has  5 beats in the bar, but the middle one is longer than the others (22322)   I suppose I think of 5/4  as wonky two-in-a-bar  3+2 or  2+3.
Maybe someone will write in and tell us the proper word instead of wonky. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: jb on April 23, 2012, 09:38:25 PM
the proper word instead of wonky.
plenty of options, including "irregular", on offer here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetrical_rhythm#Additive_rhythm).
Aksak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aksak) is nicest imo.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on April 23, 2012, 09:57:56 PM
Theme Idea:   Irregular time signatures e.g. 5/4, 7/8, 11/8, 12/8..... ??? etc etc.
Building on Ollie's posting of Bobbityshooty.
OK it's a bit esoteric maybe, but not in the Balkans. And great on the melodeon, as the basses can spell out the irregular divisions.

That's an interesting idea.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ioang on April 23, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
Might just be best to call them 'unusual' - as in: time signatures which most English folk tunes ain't in.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Theo on April 24, 2012, 08:57:35 AM
the proper word instead of wonky.
plenty of options, including "irregular", on offer here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetrical_rhythm#Additive_rhythm).
Aksak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aksak) is nicest imo.

A guy I was in a band with called them asymmetric which sort of fits with 'aksak'.  But he also uses  asymmetric to describe 4/4 tunes like rants where the bar is divided unevenly - ana\one-two-three-ana|one-two-three etc.

And is 3/4 even or uneven?   Waltz has three unequal beats???  Its a minefield!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on April 24, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Pignol has long used the asymmetric term for anything with an off number of beats that isn't 3 or 9. I suspect he might extend it to a 12/8 if it were structured say 3,3,2,2,2 but not sure on that. Maybe even an 8 time waltz 3,3,2?  Certainly it feels that way as a dance.

7/8 played as 2,2,3  5/4 and longer repeats are certainly 'asymmetric' in his terms. However the words used by theorists are additive and subtractive. Plenty on Wiki as ever

I don't see 'nudged note' rhythms in this - swing, and pushed ones like 'son' and 'clave' used in Latin music?

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 25, 2012, 04:46:23 PM
We'll certainly visit 'asymmetrics' or whatever you want to call them as part of the 'build a repertoire' meta-theme of ThoTM... not yet though; a few places we need to go first!

 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on April 25, 2012, 05:03:24 PM
I'd never realised there was a 'meta-theme' - how exciting! For me, it's more like having acquired a body of tunes which I could just about play for long enough to get them on YouTube for ThOTM. Some have started to become old friends though I must admit and I'm going to try and hold on to my sole Italian toon!  8) (where's the little fella with the puzzling question marks gone when you need him?)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on May 11, 2012, 03:56:45 AM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on May 11, 2012, 09:57:51 AM
Theme: inspiring tunes (tunes that inspire you to play along)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 25, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain

Yep, we haven't done a Tunes from Spain yet have we? I'll probably make it cover the whole of Spain when it comes up, though to my shame, I'm not really aware of much Spanish music other than Basque and Galician. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

 :|bl
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fidjit on May 26, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

 :|bl

Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on May 26, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
. Can someone point me in the right directions please?
Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

I make that Italy.  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on May 26, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
. Can someone point me in the right directions please?
Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

I make that Italy.  ;)

Not if you are heading south as directed
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on May 26, 2012, 10:21:58 AM
Not if you are heading south as directed

Ah - I'm old fashioned - I still remember maps!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on May 29, 2012, 10:56:19 PM
Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain

Yep, we haven't done a Tunes from Spain yet have we? I'll probably make it cover the whole of Spain when it comes up, though to my shame, I'm not really aware of much Spanish music other than Basque and Galician. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

 :|bl

I plan to do a project this summer and dig up some resources. Anything contributed by anyone here would be welcome.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on May 29, 2012, 11:00:32 PM
After watching much of the marathon broadcast of Ken Burns' documentary The War last weekend, I went online to find the notes to "Lili Marlene", which made me think that maybe a TOTM covering soldiers' songs or songs associated with war could yield good things...?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on June 06, 2012, 07:10:01 AM
Anyone fancy the
classic Souza March
"Transit of Venus" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rNQFUqt49Q)? 

[ed]  My thanks to Ed
 of this parish for this
 more contempary  8)
 version
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/564365_315299851888401_354991478_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on June 06, 2012, 08:21:08 PM
Inspired by Chris Ryall signature how about "Protest songs / Arbeiterlieder/ Revolution hymns"   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on June 15, 2012, 10:43:21 AM
After watching much of the marathon broadcast of Ken Burns' documentary The War last weekend, I went online to find the notes to "Lili Marlene", which made me think that maybe a TOTM covering soldiers' songs or songs associated with war could yield good things...?

Great idea! There is plenty of material to go at, from all sides in several conflicts.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on June 21, 2012, 06:41:24 PM
After watching much of the marathon broadcast of Ken Burns' documentary The War last weekend, I went online to find the notes to "Lili Marlene", which made me think that maybe a TOTM covering soldiers' songs or songs associated with war could yield good things...?
Pack up your troubles in your old kit-bag,
And smile, smile, smile,
While you've a Lucifer to light your fag,
Smile, boys, that's the style.
What's the use of worrying?
It never was worth while, so
Pack up your troubles in your old kit-bag,
And smile, smile, smile.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Roland OBrien on July 28, 2012, 11:05:39 AM
I enjoy watching & listening to various interpretations TOTM.

However as a stumbling beginner who doesn't read music, I am often on the lookout for a relatively slow version, played on a D/G, with the buttons clearly visible. This is especially the case if row-crossing is used in the peice, where being able to see what the fingers are doing is really useful.

I wondered if one of the fine people posting a "proper" TOTM could bear to do a second version at an easy-to-follow speed?  It could be a shortened version (just running through the different parts of the tune), or the whole thing.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on July 28, 2012, 03:44:53 PM
As a beginner, I feel almost guilty for suggesting this, as I am not in a position yet to take part competently....but I'd have a go, even if I didn't think it good enough to publish on You Tube.

Might I suggest for tune of the month:- 'A piece of classical music'
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on July 28, 2012, 04:07:47 PM
As it happens Joel Steward just put some classic (CBA) stuff on Facebook

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmf1964b3s

Brits who pined in vain for their "anthem" in the "Cavendish pursuit race" might cop this ..

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiLzlMI1UAs
  "Gud sign vÃ¥r konge god  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on July 28, 2012, 08:24:58 PM
As it happens Joel Steward just put some classic (CBA) stuff on Facebook

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmf1964b3s

Brits who pined in vain for their "anthem" in the "Cavendish pursuit race" might cop this ..

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiLzlMI1UAs
  "Gud sign vÃ¥r konge god  ;)

Now there's an idea.....take a simple melody like God Save the Queen and see who can make the most interesting improvisations based around it. A good way for beginners like me to learn more about the range of possibilities in a melodeon but also a way for more experienced players to be inventive and 'stretch themselves' as far as they want. Sorry if I am being silly here!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 01, 2012, 12:40:44 AM
South Downs - an interesting and quirkly little tune, best played as a slow jig, IMO.

http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/pages/jigs/South_Downs_Jig_6f9d9380.pdf
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on August 01, 2012, 12:57:09 AM
I enjoy watching & listening to various interpretations TOTM.

However as a stumbling beginner who doesn't read music, I am often on the lookout for a relatively slow version, played on a D/G, with the buttons clearly visible. This is especially the case if row-crossing is used in the peice, where being able to see what the fingers are doing is really useful.

I wondered if one of the fine people posting a "proper" TOTM could bear to do a second version at an easy-to-follow speed?  It could be a shortened version (just running through the different parts of the tune), or the whole thing.

Yep, I do think this is a good idea. Volunteers please!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on August 01, 2012, 10:33:39 AM
Might I suggest for tune of the month:- 'A piece of classical music'

Tee hee.
Michael Turner's Waltz, originally written by Mozart (K.536)
Jack the Horse Courser's Hornpipe (from the overture to Handel's opera Ottone)
Huntsmen's Chorus from Weber's Der Freischütz
Heel & toe polka a.k.a. Sultan's Polka by ...(cont. p94)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 14, 2012, 01:56:54 PM
The Bluebell Hornpipe - a rather wonderful 3/2 taught to me by Ukebert, who was taught it by Sam Sweeney at the EAC Summer School.

Second tune in this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAPisWIO2E
Dots - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/11582
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 15, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
South Downs - an interesting and quirkly little tune, best played as a slow jig, IMO.

http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/pages/jigs/South_Downs_Jig_6f9d9380.pdf

Ollie, the last bar of the third line has 9 quavers in length. I removed the A3 at the end of the bar and it sounds ok to me but have I done the right thing or should this be an odd bar of 9/8?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 15, 2012, 07:59:23 PM
I think it should be a bar of 9/8. To be honest, I don't think the tune is notated correctly at all, but the essence of the tune is there. When I get time, I'll post my 'corrected' version.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on August 15, 2012, 08:14:22 PM
Looks to me as though the C crotchet and B quaver shouldn't be there.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on August 15, 2012, 08:16:33 PM
As far as I know, all the notes are correct, it's just been badly transcribed.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on August 15, 2012, 10:05:31 PM
The transcription's not too far off. The only difference I can see in the way I play it (and that's by no means authoritative) is I don't think I do the quaver pickup note at the beginning of each section. But that's as learnt by ear from players in a session, and variations at that sort of level are hardly part of the tune.

But the bar of 9/8 is certainly correct - that rhythmic quirk is most definitely part of the (charm of) the tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 16, 2012, 05:19:04 PM
I now have it as this then:

X:53
T:South Downs Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=80
K:G
|:d|dcA G3|EFG AFE|DEF GAB|cde d2 d|
dcA G3|EFG AFE|DEF GAB| cAF G2:|
|:B|Bcd e2 c|d2 B c2 A|Bcd e2 c|[M:9/8]d2 B c2 B A3|
M:6/8
DGF E3|cBA FED|DEF GAB|1cAF G2:|2cAF G3|]

How's the speed?

 :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on August 16, 2012, 10:48:43 PM
How's the speed?

It's slow for a jig, fast for a 3/8 Waltz. I think it was written/is used as a morris tune.
75 would be closer to my idea of the right speed than 80, but I'm sure everyone does it differently.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on August 24, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
South Downs - an interesting and quirkly little tune, best played as a slow jig, IMO.

http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/pages/jigs/South_Downs_Jig_6f9d9380.pdf

Is there a video of this anywhere?

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Owen Woods on August 29, 2012, 06:11:58 PM
South Downs - an interesting and quirkly little tune, best played as a slow jig, IMO.

http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/pages/jigs/South_Downs_Jig_6f9d9380.pdf

Is there a video of this anywhere?

Cheers,

Clive

There is now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OUmJg8uYo
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: -Y- on September 04, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
Hello,
It's been a while, but I have some suggestions here :
This one is fun to play : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIFl5BsK1VQ
The Carillion (jig, quite well played here http://www.myspace.com/maymonday)
Lusignac, a nice waltz from Chris Wood
Jolie nanon, a Breton melody (and probably from other French areas), it is possible to hear it (though only once) here : http://medias.albumtrad.com/en/extraits/00645/009179-jolie-nanon.mp3, a longer version here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9DJvn6aMU8

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on September 12, 2012, 09:56:19 AM
How about 'Bob Cann tunes' for Theme of the Month?  It surprises me how few people play his tunes these days.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ebor_fiddler on October 09, 2012, 12:22:27 PM
Like!  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on October 09, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Bob Cann, Bon Cann, Bob Cann....... :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on October 09, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Bob Cann, Bon Cann, Bob Cann....... :D

Is he from Yorkshire, then, Pikey?   ???
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on October 09, 2012, 05:14:14 PM
Adopted!   ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on October 26, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
Couldn't find it on list of nominated tunes but want to nominate my fave hornpipe
Sportsman's hornpipe
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on November 16, 2012, 09:44:48 AM
Bob Cann....Bob Cann...... Bob Cann........  ;)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on November 19, 2012, 05:56:21 PM
Couldn't find it on list of nominated tunes but want to nominate my fave hornpipe
Sportsman's hornpipe

Cracking tune!

X:1
T:Sportsman's Hornpipe
Q:1/4=140
M:2/2
L:1/8
K:Ador
c2 cc B2 BA|GABc dBAG|c2 cc B2 BA|\
E2A2A4|c2 cc B2 BA|GABc dBAG|
gfge dBAG|E2A2A4::ABcd efge|afdf edcB|ABcd efge|
afdf e3 e|a2 af g2 ge|c2 ce dB G2|cBcA BABG|E2A2A4:|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on November 19, 2012, 06:36:17 PM
Couldn't find it on list of nominated tunes but want to nominate my fave hornpipe
Sportsman's hornpipe

Cracking tune!

Another vote for this one from me. Recently I've been messing around with this tune, mostly using it to improve my fingers' knowledge of where the same notes fall across the D and G rows, playing on the row and across rows to give the tune a different feel.

As a melodeon toddler (playgroup on Friday  :||:) I would be interested to see what the big kids of the forum make of this tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on November 22, 2012, 11:08:49 PM
Theme of the month : tunes on c/f boxes   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: AirTime on December 04, 2012, 04:37:34 AM
Come on! If we want to stay relevant, we're going to have to do this one before it's too late.   :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLxoOgm7WQ
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on December 04, 2012, 11:51:59 AM
Bob Cann ? Please?? Pretty please?????
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: michik on December 04, 2012, 11:43:50 PM
Aly's waltz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8XlX2qXGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVQn-faM8rI

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/5983

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 09, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Bob Cann ? Please?? Pretty please?????

Well we covered tunes from England a couple of months back which was intended to cover this too; the trouble with doing someone's repertoire specifically is it's not obvious to everyone which tunes are in that repertoire and which aren't...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Martyn on December 09, 2012, 04:20:04 PM
How about a 'classical' theme of the month? There are several Handel and Bach pieces that go very well on a melodeon.
A Bb/Eb seems to be a most suitable box for these but any keys will do.

Martyn
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: docEdock on December 10, 2012, 08:01:34 PM
I suggest Pascal Rubens' delightful mazurka: Le lac de St-Croix.

She plays it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0).

If it were to be selected as TOTM, Pascal has graciously authorized posting an ABC and a .pdf of the score, which is in the Naragonia Tune Book.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ray on December 10, 2012, 09:24:33 PM
I suggest Pascal Rubens' delightful mazurka: Le lac de St-Croix.

She plays it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0).

If it were to be selected as TOTM, Pascal has graciously authorized posting an ABC and a .pdf of the score, which is in the Naragonia Tune Book.

I second this tune!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 10, 2012, 10:50:41 PM
I suggest Pascal Rubens' delightful mazurka: Le lac de St-Croix.

She plays it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0).

If it were to be selected as TOTM, Pascal has graciously authorized posting an ABC and a .pdf of the score, which is in the Naragonia Tune Book.

Thirded! So where's the ABC?  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Andrel on December 11, 2012, 05:04:28 AM
A suggestion for Scottish-English musical harmony: Both Sides the Tweed. Lovely !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dfd5EBMw8s
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on December 11, 2012, 08:44:11 AM
How about 'Bob Cann tunes' for Theme of the Month?  It surprises me how few people play his tunes these days.

I play all Bob Cann tunes as best I Cann
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: docEdock on December 15, 2012, 09:17:41 AM
I suggest Pascal Rubens' delightful mazurka: Le lac de St-Croix.

She plays it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpAqVJL23I0).

If it were to be selected as TOTM, Pascal has graciously authorized posting an ABC and a .pdf of the score, which is in the Naragonia Tune Book.
Pascal kindly granted permission to go ahead and post the score.
X:7
T:Le lac de St-Croix
C:Pascal Rubens
O:Belgium
B:Naragonia Tune Book, 2010
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:C
|:"Cmaj7"D2C3G3C|"Em7"D2B,3G3B,|"Dm7"D2Fc2B3A|"G7sus4"G3D6|
|"Cmaj7"D2C3G3C|"Em7"D2B,3G3B,|"Dm7"z3d2cB2c|"G7sus4"[G3B3][D6G6]:|
|"Dm7"F2Ae2d3c|"G9"B3B2cd3|"Cmaj7"z2E[c2e2]E[c2e2]E|"Am"c3B3A3|
|"Dm7"F2Ae2d3c|"G9"B3B2cd3|"Cmaj7"E2Gd2c3B|"Am"c3B3A3:|
W:©2008 Pascal Rubens. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

Edited to remove V: and move W:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 15, 2012, 10:45:52 PM
Pascal kindly granted permission to go ahead and post the score.
X:7
T:Le lac de St-Croix
C:Pascal Rubens
O:Belgium
B:Naragonia Tune Book, 2010
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:C
V:1
W:©2008 Pascal Rubens. Used by permission. All rights reserved.
|:"Cmaj7"D2C3G3C|"Em7"D2B,3G3B,|"Dm7"D2Fc2B3A|"G7sus4"G3D6|
|"Cmaj7"D2C3G3C|"Em7"D2B,3G3B,|"Dm7"z3d2cB2c|"G7sus4"[G3B3][D6G6]:|
|"Dm7"F2Ae2d3c|"G9"B3B2cd3|"Cmaj7"z2E[c2e2]E[c2e2]E|"Am"c3B3A3|
|"Dm7"F2Ae2d3c|"G9"B3B2cd3|"Cmaj7"E2Gd2c3B|"Am"c3B3A3:|

V:1 should be removed from the header as there is no V:2 and a fatal error is returned preventing the software from displaying staff notation and playing back the midi file.  :o

W: should be moved the the end of the file as it is not a header field and the text will appear after the music if it's not incorporated into the tune body anyway. This should really be an N: (notes field) as W: indicates song lyrics. This last bit is all about abc niceties of course . . .  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: docEdock on December 16, 2012, 12:04:42 AM

V:1 should be removed from the header as there is no V:2 and a fatal error is returned preventing the software from displaying staff notation and playing back the midi file.  :o

W: should be moved the the end of the file as it is not a header field and the text will appear after the music if it's not incorporated into the tune body anyway. This should really be an N: (notes field) as W: indicates song lyrics. This last bit is all about abc niceties of course . . .  >:E

Thanks for pointing these out. I will update the original post.

I have been using http://abcnotation.com/wiki/abc:standard:v2.1#the_abc_music_standard_21_dec_2011 (http://abcnotation.com/wiki/abc:standard:v2.1#the_abc_music_standard_21_dec_2011) as a guide. Is there a better reference to the ABC syntax? I ask because I couldn't find (in that standard) that V: must at least be paired (though it makes sense) and W: is listed as being a Header field.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 16, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
I have been using http://abcnotation.com/wiki/abc:standard:v2.1#the_abc_music_standard_21_dec_2011 (http://abcnotation.com/wiki/abc:standard:v2.1#the_abc_music_standard_21_dec_2011) as a guide. Is there a better reference to the ABC syntax? I ask because I couldn't find (in that standard) that V: must at least be paired (though it makes sense) and W: is listed as being a Header field.

In an attempt to stop thread drift the answer is here (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,11141.msg138437.html#msg138437).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on December 16, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
Just in case this tune makes it through to TotM here it is D an G (or is it Bm and Em, I'm really not sure!) for the average English box player to try out.

X:34
T:Le lac de St-Croix
C:Pascal Rubens
O:Belgium
B:Naragonia Tune Book, 2010
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:D
|:"Dmaj7"E2D3A3D|"F#m7"E2C3A3C|"Em7"E2Gd2c3B|"A7sus4"A3E6|
|"Dmaj7"E2D3A3D|"F#m7"E2C3A3C|"Em7"z3e2dc2d|"A7sus4"[A3c3][E6A6]:|
|"Em7"G2Bf2e3d|"A9"c3c2de3|"Dmaj7"z2F[d2f2]F[d2f2]F|"Bm"d3c3B3|
|"Em7"G2Bf2e3d|"A9"c3c2de3|"Dmaj7"F2Ae2d3c|"Bm"d3c3B3:|
W:©2008 Pascal Rubens. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

X:35
T:Le lac de St-Croix
C:Pascal Rubens
O:Belgium
B:Naragonia Tune Book, 2010
M:9/8
L:1/8
K:G
|:"Gmaj7"A2G3d3G|"Bm7"A2F3d3F|"Am7"A2cg2f3e|"D7sus4"d3A6|
|"Gmaj7"A2G3d3G|"Bm7"A2F3d3F|"Am7"z3a2gf2g|"D7sus4"[d3f3][A6d6]:|
|"Am7"c2eb2a3g|"D9"f3f2ga3|"Gmaj7"z2B[g2b2]B[g2b2]B|"Em"g3f3e3|
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Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Jackaspandy on December 24, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
Hi Clive/

May I say I really appreciate Melodeon.Net and all the work that you and others put into it - the joy it has given me is unsurpassed - I do feel a bit guilty in that I have never yet got it together to post a tune and I am not sure whether I will be able to manage this one - but although it is called "In continental Mood" in a way - it has got an English feel to it....... and.......  I love this version of it ....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=iBGs7G8OCzI&NR=1
Many thanks ............
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 24, 2012, 01:10:36 AM
Hi Clive/

May I say I really appreciate Melodeon.Net and all the work that you and others put into it - the joy it has given me is unsurpassed - I do feel a bit guilty in that I have never yet got it together to post a tune and I am not sure whether I will be able to manage this one - but although it is called "In continental Mood" in a way - it has got an English feel to it....... and.......  I love this version of it ....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=iBGs7G8OCzI&NR=1
Many thanks ............

Ah, you know how to persuade me! Yes, I love this tune; one of my favourites - not easy by any means, and it requires playing in the upper octave, but a worthy nomination...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peter Savage on January 11, 2013, 10:35:45 AM
Suggestion for "Theme of the Month"...

Most folks on this forum own multiple boxes and are interested in the differences between them.  How about a "Box Comparison" theme?  Pick a standard tune (of the individual players choice) and then play it on multiple boxes so that people can see and hear the differences.  Ideally the takes would be stitched into 1 video/sound file but if the member didn't have software for that they could just link multiple videos/sound files. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: hubert on January 11, 2013, 11:20:18 AM
sokunds like a good jidea...hubert.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on January 24, 2013, 11:08:31 PM
Aly's waltz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8XlX2qXGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVQn-faM8rI

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/5983

Just looking up this one, I can't find a melodeon version, and the initial bass run sounds to me like it'll need more than 8 basses. Anyone tried it on a 2 row 8 bass?

I did come across a version with an interesting side note - 'written for Aly Bain. Traditional Irish'  ???

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on January 31, 2013, 11:50:52 PM
Write a progressive tune. Make a list of anyone who's interested, then somebody start by composing two bars (or four bars, or whatever), then pass it to the next name on the list. Compose two bars, then pass it on.

Or the first person composes eight bars (A music) that can be used like a rondo, others compose B, C, D music, always returning to the original A music in between.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Spikey on February 18, 2013, 08:15:29 AM
Visa fran Venjan?
Sorry if this has been suggested before - I couldn't find it, and it might even be a really well known and often played piece but I have just discovered it on Jon Loomes demonstration videos - here at 1min 30s in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd89gp2DIPE
I hope I'm not the only one who plays a video incessantly when I find a great tune played by a great player ::)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GuyWyatt on February 18, 2013, 08:33:21 AM
Raggle-Taggle Gipsies?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on February 18, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
Visa fran Venjan?

I love it too, and for some reason I can hear Tim van Eyken against the Visa från Venjan. - did he ever record it? I feel it's a good tune to have a go at, its failure to quite resolve to tonic gives it a strange spirituality, a modal restlessness that it shares with Cutting/Wood's Reel de Queteux arrangement (Lusignac).

BTW the youtube GUI now allows a start time to be specified via xxxxxx/xxxx?t=   .. here

  http://youtu.be/Pd89gp2DIPE?t=1m30s (http://youtu.be/Pd89gp2DIPE?t=1m30s)

.. or it'll set it up for us via the 'share this video' button (simultaneously cueing Facebook to flog you a holiday in Sweden)  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Noodle on March 02, 2013, 04:34:10 AM
Would you allow me to suggest another Chris Wood/Andy Cutting tune? South Downs Way, as demonstrated very ably by Mr Roland Carson in this Youtube video, following a nice waltz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUBZXIanBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUBZXIanBY)

It's a tune that's been rattling around my head for weeks but haven't quite been able to work out how to play it. I'd like to hear other people's interpretations of it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on March 09, 2013, 09:25:31 PM
Suggestion for May 2013 theme - Eurovision Songs. A bit Euro-centric but I'm sure our non-European members will be able to find something fun to play. There's everything from Abba to Lordi in there, via Cliff Richards and Bucks Fizz. Last year's winner was a good one.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 10, 2013, 07:55:46 AM
Yes, yes, yes !!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mike Hirst on March 10, 2013, 10:42:05 AM
eurovision accordion hits!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRObP8XE4Ko#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJxOh2EHKk#!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on March 10, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
I'd probably do "Wolves of the Sea". "Puppet on a String" maybe. So much fun to choose from. ;)

Eurovision is such a legend. No-one outside Europe understands it. :D

And for obscure personal reasons, I really ought to learn "Dancing Lasha Tumbai" which has a bit of PA in I believe.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 10, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
Eurovision is such a legend. No-one outside Europe understands it. :D

And at least one person inside Europe (mind you I consider myself English and therefore not really European  ;)  )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Strigulino on March 10, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
I could sum Eurovision up as a time when Europe improves international relations by being silly for one another, and one or two songs turn out to actually be pretty memorable.

The voting is a side issue, clouded by people who give a monkeys enough to pay for a phone call generally voting for their favourite country next door.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mike Hirst on March 10, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
At least one pair of accordion obsessed American bloggers (http://accordionconnection.blogspot.co.uk/2007/05/americavision-on-eurovision.html) are hooked on the contest. Summing it up as a "magical world where hard-rocking monsters rule the earth and trannies, drag queens, and lesbians are allowed, nay, encouraged to perform incoherent dance songs in front of an audience of millions". A perfect description if ever I read one.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread - Sir Sidney Smiths March
Post by: pikey on March 11, 2013, 10:04:08 AM
How about Sir Sidney Smiths March for Tune OTM? It's got some challenging twiddy bits, but is a cracking tune .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 11, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
As with canal en octobre this excellent idea might benefit from lying fallow for a few months ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: SteveC on March 11, 2013, 11:04:30 AM
Quote
How about Sir Sidney Smiths March for Tune OTM? It's got some challenging twiddy bits, but is a cracking tune .

Just checking out this tune to find out what it sounds like and came across this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_ThgeTs7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_ThgeTs7Q)

Cracking interpretation
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 11, 2013, 03:10:43 PM
Just checking out this tune to find out what it sounds like and came across this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_ThgeTs7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_ThgeTs7Q)

Cracking interpretation

Shame it is entitled CELTIC Folk Music  :(
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 13, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
habemus Papem!

I'm no catholic, but it seems they are as surprised as me at the man elected.  How about a tune, or interpretation to welcome the new prelate? 30 minutes in, there's already 20 google look ups and a 5 page Wiki on him.

Idea is that you give your own interpretation, be that "welcome Holy Father ", some plain chant,  "not another bloke!", "tango in Rome" (there's a Jacques Brel song), even "don't cry for me Argentina" - just a few ideas to set us off.  You have to do it in music. Given he's only been in post an hour, seems a good start. What do others think?

To those who feel this too risque, why not?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 13, 2013, 08:23:55 PM
Heard this rather fantastic Peeping Tom tune at a session on Sunday.

http://abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=thesession.org/tunes/5069.no-ext/0001

Tune starts at 3:12 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfksPrku04E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 13, 2013, 08:25:23 PM
habemus Papem!

<snippy snip snip>

To those who feel this too risque, why not?

I think it is best we leave religion, politics etc out of mel.net
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on March 13, 2013, 09:06:31 PM
Sorry, didn't quite pick up on the "why not" bit of that  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 13, 2013, 10:10:34 PM
How about cross row tunes for theme of the month ?  ;)

Ducks.........
Title: National Anthems could be a good theme
Post by: JohnnyMoncton on March 20, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Eurovision tunes would be great, but it'd help if there were sheet music or ABCs available.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 20, 2013, 06:19:15 PM
Ducks.........

Don't know it. How does it go, can you hum a bit?  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on March 20, 2013, 06:46:04 PM
Ducks.........

Don't know it. How does it go, can you hum a bit?  :|glug

With a quack quack here
And a quack quack there
Cross your toes
And cross those rows
Here a quack, there a quack
Everywhere a quack quack

Get it?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 20, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
LOL! 

How about theme of the month of 'anything you like, as long as it's not folk music'......  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 20, 2013, 10:46:06 PM
LOL! 

How about theme of the month of 'anything you like, as long as it's not folk music'......  ;)

Well, we've already had "tunes you wouldn't expect on a melodeon"...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Etienne on March 21, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
Don't know if anyone have already suggest it, but i fell in love with "Cuckoo's nest", and quite in the same time i fell in love with border morris because they've got the best costumes (totally subjective personnal taste), so :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snB3HeQNjBA

and also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_S8C2Iyt-U

and this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSyQ96bcMQM

And Lester played this too but without dancing along, and i don't put the link because eveybody knows where it is...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on March 21, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
Don't know if anyone have already suggest it, but i fell in love with "Cuckoo's nest", and quite in the same time i fell in love with border morris because they've got the best costumes (totally subjective personnal taste), so :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snB3HeQNjBA

and also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_S8C2Iyt-U

and this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSyQ96bcMQM

And Lester played this too but without dancing along, and i don't put the link because eveybody knows where it is...

They were all of course of the degenerative style of  border morris, the tune and the proper dance come from the superior Cotswold style  >:E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETfQdWS0HA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETfQdWS0HA)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on March 21, 2013, 11:58:31 PM


They were all of course of the degenerative style of  border morris

I dance for one of those 'degenerative' sides... but I still used Lester's tune a day video to help me learn the tune :)

If Cuckoo's Nest hasn't already been done as a TOTM then I vote for it too. I absolutely love this tune, to play and to dance to :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on March 22, 2013, 12:04:06 AM
How about "Tunes you wouldn't expect on a Hohner"?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: ladydetemps on March 25, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
what about un-seasonal tunes and inclement weather as a theme. ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on April 20, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
No new tune nominations this month I see - may I suggest 'Theme Vannetaise'.  A lovely tune, I'd be interested to see  what melnetters do with it.

Helena
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on April 20, 2013, 11:29:53 PM
No new tune nominations this month I see - may I suggest 'Theme Vannetaise'.  A lovely tune, I'd be interested to see  what melnetters do with it.

Helena
That might make me have a go.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on April 21, 2013, 12:29:39 AM
How about cross row tunes for theme of the month ?  ;)

Ducks.........

or how about 'cross row'' tunes played strictly ''on  the row''
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on April 21, 2013, 05:44:46 AM
what about … inclement weather as a theme?

Yes, it has been rather froid  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 21, 2013, 10:44:03 AM
may I suggest 'Theme Vannetaise'.  A lovely tune, I'd be interested to see  what melnetters do with it.

A border morris dance called Twiglet more than likely! Good tune suggestion.  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on April 21, 2013, 10:54:31 AM
Have we had marches as a them for March? (next year, perhaps)

And John Kirkpatrick's April Fool as  a  ToTM for April?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on April 21, 2013, 10:58:46 AM
The Primrose Polka?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on April 21, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
may I suggest 'Theme Vannetaise'.  A lovely tune, I'd be interested to see  what melnetters do with it.

A border morris dance called Twiglet more than likely! Good tune suggestion.  :D

Or in the case of a side I belong to a completely different border dance...  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on April 21, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
The Royal Scots Polka is dg friendly and also one row friendly  - and its a nice tune

george
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on April 28, 2013, 09:24:11 AM
May I suggest Martin Ellison's wonderful A Small Fee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhC4TqecsI). I had a go at it after hearing it as the astonishing track 1 on the 1986 classic LP "English Melodeon Players (http://bootsalesounds.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/english-melodeon-players.html)", I'd only been playing 2-3 years at the time. It's one of those tunes that seems quite impossible, until you try it, feel the groove and (basically) switch off your brain.

Small Fee runs almost entirely on (eg) the main D/G rows, with a lot of melodic movement between the C/C#pull buttons.   The original has a tiny bit of chromaticism at the end of the B music where there's a rising C# D Eb E scale.  If you don't have accidentals, that can be fudged as this classic is  much more "about" a slippery (but actually quite easily fingered) tune  .. played across a really solid left end rhythm. 

Unbelievably, it was the Northwest maestro's first "go" at a tune! "Eee, that's a rum'n" - Dick Nudds
       (http://chrisryall.net/img/ellison.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhC4TqecsI)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: JohnAndy on April 28, 2013, 09:32:44 AM
May I suggest Martin Ellison's wonderful A Small Fee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhC4TqecsI).

Good call, brilliant tune, not heard that before.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: derekc on May 05, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
The Raddled Tup

http://www.myspace.com/johnkirkpatrickmusic/music/songs/the-raddled-tup-hunting-the-squirrel-48995502

Trip to Skye

Beautifully (IMHO) interpreted here by Skolvan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvZwQ2S_1BI
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 20, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
The Lament for Ian Dickson by Anthony Robb. Here he is playing it on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktwjk2NGE4). I have been playing this tune for several years having found it in a tune book, too quickly though as it happens compared to Anthony's almost dirge like rendition (which is of course correct!). I'll continue to play it a little faster but whatever speed you play it at it's still a grand tune!

X:1
T:Lament for Ian Dickson
C:©Anthony Robb
C:Slow Air
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=110
K:G
D2|G3 B AF|G4B2|c4B2|A6|d3c BA|c3B AG|B4d2|A4D2|
G3B AF|G4B2|c4e2|A6|d3c BA|c3B AG|d4F2|G4:|
d2|e3 fg2|fd3g2|fd3B2|d4d2|e3fg2|fd3B2|e3c e<c|A4d2|
e3fg2|ae3 ag|e3fg2|e6|e3c BA|d3B AG|d4F2|G4d2|
e3fg2|fd3g2|fd3B2|d4d2|e3fg2|fd3B2|e3c e<c|A4D2|
G3B AF|G4B2|c4e2|A6|d3c BA|c3B AG| d4F2|G4|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mike Carney on July 19, 2013, 10:09:16 PM
How about Willafjord Reel? Here's a fairly steady version (not on melodeon!) Heard quite widely and does not seem to be on the list (or have I missed it?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRKthg3_6E

Or The Galway Hornpipe - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ruF6c2yrsY  The dots for this can be found on The Session.org
Cheers
Mike   8)








Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on July 28, 2013, 07:12:15 PM
Hello,

I'd like to nominate 'Black Joak' a tune I've been sort of aware of for some time without ever really noticing it too much. Since playing the 'Mother of All Morris' album in the office a couple of weeks ago I've become slightly obsessed with it thanks to Jim Moray's splendid version which appears on the album.

This tune has, of course, also been done by Lester as part of his tune-a-day blog and can be found here (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/tune-148-black-joke-adderbury.html).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peter Savage on August 05, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
Tune of the month suggestion: "Banks of the Seine".  Tony Hall does a version on "Fieldvole Music" and there is also a simliar version by someone else on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60U9cxYSSHc.  It's tune that could be played very simply or not...therefore might suit different levels of player. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 05, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
Hello,

I'd like to nominate 'Black Joak' a tune I've been sort of aware of for some time without ever really noticing it too much. Since playing the 'Mother of All Morris' album in the office a couple of weeks ago I've become slightly obsessed with it thanks to Jim Moray's splendid version which appears on the album.

This tune has, of course, also been done by Lester as part of his tune-a-day blog and can be found here (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/tune-148-black-joke-adderbury.html).

Thanks for spelling it properly!  ;) This months 'Morris Tunes' ThOTM is a perfect opportunity for you to give it a go. I'm wrestling with Oyster Girl and Young Collins as I have no excuse for not contributing this month.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on August 05, 2013, 08:17:37 PM
Hello,

I'd like to nominate 'Black Joak' a tune I've been sort of aware of for some time without ever really noticing it too much. Since playing the 'Mother of All Morris' album in the office a couple of weeks ago I've become slightly obsessed with it thanks to Jim Moray's splendid version which appears on the album.

This tune has, of course, also been done by Lester as part of his tune-a-day blog and can be found here (http://lesters-tune-a-day.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/tune-148-black-joke-adderbury.html).

Thanks for spelling it properly!  ;) This months 'Morris Tunes' ThOTM is a perfect opportunity for you to give it a go. I'm wrestling with Oyster Girl and Young Collins as I have no excuse for not contributing this month.

The correct spelling in most if not all Morris traditions for the tune and the dance is Black Joke!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: malcolmbebb on August 05, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
I have noticed that the song seems to be called Black Joak (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/453150?uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&sid=21102529360373), although I have only seen Black Joke for the dance (apart from an alternative title of "Oh sh*t not that, I'm knackered already".

Although it would be fair comment, I feel, to point out that it may be dealt with perfectly adequately under "Morris Tunes" :-) (with Lester's spelling, of course). But as a hankie dance (Adderbury), or Bledington if you prefer sticks.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 05, 2013, 10:38:24 PM
The correct spelling in most if not all Morris traditions for the tune and the dance is Black Joke!

Traditions derived from what exactly? Twentieth century re-writes of history? There's a great big hole in the middle of the tradition that has been rebuilt from the notes of Cecil Sharp and the like who collected tunes and stepping notes aurally and visually. Black Joak in the early twentieth century would indeed have been heard as Black Joke, ignoring at least a hundred years of documented spelling as Joak. John Kirkpatrick is very careful to name all of the various colours as "Joak's" in his music books because that is how they appeared in period manuscripts.

For the purposes of this debate we will of course entirely disregard the fact that the said Mr. Kirkpatrick did wantonly invent 'Border Morris' as a tradition and did conceive various tunes and such in order to hoodwink gullible souls that the beating of drums (out of time) and screeching horribly was indeed a traditional pastime.

Damn, did I just outmanoeuvre myself?

No, not at all. Lester, you're wrong!  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on August 06, 2013, 08:19:07 AM
Blimey,  all I did was suggest a jolly tune...not open a debate on what constitutes 'tradition'

*gets coat and runs and hides*  :|glug

Apart from  other considerations I used the more traditional spelling of 'Black Joak' simply because that spelling is perhaps less likely to be misconstrued by the uninitiated and certainly less likely to result in unpleasant internet search results while trying to research the tune history (my coat is an anorak) and recorded versions. 

I agree it is essentially a morris tune and so could be dealt with under this month's theme of the month but then again so could a ridiculously high proportion of previous TOTM tunes  :D.  I guess that is a reflection of a large proportion of the membership of this forum.

Nice to see some variation from the theme this month with 'Lac de St Croix' in the chair, although with my level of ability I have no hope of doing it any justice I think it will be a good learning opportunity for me to explore other styles of playing once I return home from sunny Sidmouth.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 08, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
Here's a pretty tune written by Concertina.net member Jody Kruskal played on a 38 key Dipper G/D anglo concertina. Pixie Wings: The Fairy Variations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMkIhDrb4-c)

It's a tune that lends itself to being played in a variety styles with ample opportunity for ornamentation and variation but stands up well if played simply. I messaged Jody and he's very happy for the tune to be used freely providing the usual niceties of crediting the composer and adding "Used by permission, all rights reserved" are observed when posting to Youtube/Soundcloud etc. Jody is going to send me a PDF of the music once he's updated it as it seems to have morphed quite a lot since it was first written.

I hope somebody else finds this piece as captivating as I do and thinks it worthy of entry into a monthly poll.  :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 09, 2013, 10:38:41 PM
Here's Jody's transcription of the general bones of the tune played in the YouTube clip.

Pixie Wings (https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2y2iznwn1rlbqq/25%20Pixie%20Wings%20youtube%20version.pdf)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on September 03, 2013, 11:04:37 AM
How about Delilah??    :||:   ;)   >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 06, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
How about Delilah??    :||:   ;)   >:E

Why, why, why?  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: hubert on September 06, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
thanks tallships, for lovely music, and art work....Hubert
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on September 07, 2013, 08:47:22 AM
How about Delilah??    :||:   ;)   >:E

Why, why, why?  :D

Not ?  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on September 07, 2013, 09:20:08 AM

 May I suggest this fine melody (http://youtu.be/XfmOOfSb1Qw)  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on September 07, 2013, 02:58:45 PM
The Primrose Polka?
I second this one.  Great melody that really catches you unawares.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 08, 2013, 03:58:47 PM
thanks tallships, for lovely music, and art work....Hubert

You're welcome, let's hope it gets another go!  :||: :|||: :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 16, 2013, 02:48:08 PM
Kristjani Reilender, a tune from Estonia. On the trip back from Bromyard, Owen (ukebert) and I listened to an album of Lõõtspill music from Estonia, and this tune jumped out at me. Owen has very kindly transcribed it in a DG friendly key.

X:1
T:Kristjani Reilender
M:4/4
K:Dmaj
DE FG A2 A2 | Ad ce d2 ef | g2 eg f2 d2 | cd ed (3cBA (3GFE |
DE FG A2 A2 | Ad ce d2 ef | g2 eg f2 d2 |1 cd ec dB AF :|2 cd ec de fg ||
a2 ff f2 ef | g2 ee e2 de | f2 dd d2 cd | ed cB AB (3cBA |
d2 ef g2 ab | a2 ff f2 ef | gf ed cd ec |1 df ec de fg :|2 (3dBA (3GFE D4 ||

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H83TvjTJeXs
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: RogerT on September 16, 2013, 02:54:15 PM
"listened to an album of Lõõtspill music from Estonia"
what is the box on the left in the vid?  I don't mean the make... I mean what is it?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 16, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
That's a Lõõtspill, an Estonian diatonic button accordion. Bit of a thread on them here - http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,1781.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on September 19, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
Suggestion for Futue Tunes Thread: Your party piece, i.e. the special sparkly tune that you play to entertain (or show off)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Etienne on September 20, 2013, 07:48:42 AM
Suggestion for Futue Tunes Thread: Your party piece, i.e. the special sparkly tune that you play to entertain (or show off)

Good idea, a very open theme and a fine way to better know each others.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: MatlockBather on September 20, 2013, 01:13:23 PM
Other suggestions.
Tunes that mean something to you - but you have to explain why it is special. Follows on from a thread the other day.
Local tunes, ones that come from or near your home town.
Holiday tunes. Tunes from where you went on holiday or maybe just ones you heard/learnt when on holiday.

one day I shall have to try recording something and join in the fun...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on October 16, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Other suggestions.
Tunes that mean something to you - but you have to explain why it is special. Follows on from a thread the other day.
Local tunes, ones that come from or near your home town.
Holiday tunes. Tunes from where you went on holiday or maybe just ones you heard/learnt when on holiday.

one day I shall have to try recording something and join in the fun...

Great idea and really fun.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Etienne on October 17, 2013, 08:52:29 AM
Agree
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: robotmay on January 13, 2014, 01:55:12 PM
Black Joke certainly gets a vote from me, as I actually know it (mostly referred to via various forms of groaning when I danced with Adderbury).

Another tune I've been trying to learn recently is the Welsh tune (as far as I know) "Hunting the Hare", which the Cardiff morris side dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lutq7hL0Vic). There's a number of different ABCs for it over on The Session (http://thesession.org/tunes/4426), though I don't think any of them match up exactly to what Alun plays at the morris :D

I'd love to hear other people's renditions of it as it's quite a sweet little tune and not many Welsh tunes pop up often apart from Sweet Jenny Jones.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on January 14, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
I would like to make a suggestion for Tune of the Month. The Abbess by Andy Cutting. I don't think it has been used before, at least I can't find it on the list. It is very, very beautiful and not too difficult to play, so would suit the less experienced like me!  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on January 14, 2014, 10:34:46 PM
I would like to make a suggestion for Tune of the Month. The Abbess by Andy Cutting. I don't think it has been used before, at least I can't find it on the list. It is very, very beautiful and not too difficult to play, so would suit the less experienced like me!  (:)

Good choice  (:) :||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 27, 2014, 10:36:38 PM
Young Damon's Flight - a wonderful slip-jig from Playford, which I first heard from Miranda Rutter (of Boldwood and Methera) at the EAC Summer School. The dots can be found here - http://folkmusicnotes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/young-damons-flight.png - and here's Boldwood playing it - https://soundcloud.com/boldwood/01-young-damons-flight An awesome tune that deserves wider recognition.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 28, 2014, 01:03:22 AM
Young Damon's Flight - a wonderful slip-jig from Playford, which I first heard from Miranda Rutter (of Boldwood and Methera) at the EAC Summer School. The dots can be found here - http://folkmusicnotes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/young-damons-flight.png - and here's Boldwood playing it - https://soundcloud.com/boldwood/01-young-damons-flight An awesome tune that deserves wider recognition.
Thanks, Ollie! That is indeed an amazing tune. B minor is a fascinating and wonderful key. I shall have a go at that.
Comparing the dots with the Boldwood recording, instead of the written A# minim in bar 2, they play a C# instead which sounds fine and is certainly more melodeon-friendly.  ;)

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 28, 2014, 01:26:53 AM
Young Damon's Flight - a wonderful slip-jig from Playford, which I first heard from Miranda Rutter (of Boldwood and Methera) at the EAC Summer School. The dots can be found here - http://folkmusicnotes.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/young-damons-flight.png - and here's Boldwood playing it - https://soundcloud.com/boldwood/01-young-damons-flight An awesome tune that deserves wider recognition.
Thanks, Ollie! That is indeed an amazing tune. B minor is a fascinating and wonderful key. I shall have a go at that.
Comparing the dots with the Boldwood recording, instead of the written A# minim in bar 2, they play a C# instead which sounds fine and is certainly more melodeon-friendly.  ;)

It is indeed. The dots are of the Boldwoodized version, the original from Playford can be seen here, with another A# (which I think detracts from the mysterious nature of the tune) - http://www.izaak.unh.edu/nhltmd/indexes/dancingmaster/Dance/images/Play5824.gif
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on January 28, 2014, 08:18:15 AM
Black Joke certainly gets a vote from me, as I actually know it (mostly referred to via various forms of groaning when I danced with Adderbury).

Another tune I've been trying to learn recently is the Welsh tune (as far as I know) "Hunting the Hare", which the Cardiff morris side dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lutq7hL0Vic). There's a number of different ABCs for it over on The Session (http://thesession.org/tunes/4426), though I don't think any of them match up exactly to what Alun plays at the morris :D

I'd love to hear other people's renditions of it as it's quite a sweet little tune and not many Welsh tunes pop up often apart from Sweet Jenny Jones.

Look for my Scottische version of it on my YouTube channel, pikeyh.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: robotmay on January 28, 2014, 08:36:03 AM
Black Joke certainly gets a vote from me, as I actually know it (mostly referred to via various forms of groaning when I danced with Adderbury).

Another tune I've been trying to learn recently is the Welsh tune (as far as I know) "Hunting the Hare", which the Cardiff morris side dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lutq7hL0Vic). There's a number of different ABCs for it over on The Session (http://thesession.org/tunes/4426), though I don't think any of them match up exactly to what Alun plays at the morris :D

I'd love to hear other people's renditions of it as it's quite a sweet little tune and not many Welsh tunes pop up often apart from Sweet Jenny Jones.

Look for my Scottische version of it on my YouTube channel, pikeyh.

Ooh great! I hadn't noticed that you'd done that; I was looking through your channel yesterday and managed to miss it :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on January 28, 2014, 11:27:45 AM
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yupxXeve5TU

It would make a cracking TOTM!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on January 28, 2014, 11:32:44 AM
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yupxXeve5TU

It would make a cracking TOTM!

Or as a jig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPD9_ctvMIU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPD9_ctvMIU)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: robotmay on January 28, 2014, 11:36:39 AM
I still haven't figured out what to do with the basses in it, must get back on it and figure out how to play it properly!
Here's the morris version from Cardiff Morris dancing it in the Nantgarw style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lutq7hL0Vic
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on January 28, 2014, 01:12:32 PM
Who else wants Delilah as TOTM????
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on January 28, 2014, 01:15:44 PM
Who else wants Delilah as TOTM????

I'd go for it.
Have you heard the Hackney Martians version?
Hilarious !  >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Howard Jones on February 10, 2014, 10:18:58 AM
In view of Team GB's success at the Winter Olympics, surely the next TOTM should be "Sweet Jenny Jones".
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tami-USA on February 13, 2014, 01:38:13 PM
Please consider Fishers Hornpipe for an upcoming totm.  There is only 1 melodeon version on youtube and it's done on a toy - this situation needs remedied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHN93TqdkHo
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on February 16, 2014, 09:51:46 PM
For Theme of the Month:  Hymns
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 17, 2014, 09:01:08 AM
For Theme of the Month:  Hymns

Oooh. My favourite! Maybe not next month, but soon...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nick Collis Bird on February 17, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
Please consider Fishers Hornpipe for an upcoming totm.  There is only 1 melodeon version on youtube and it's done on a toy - this situation needs remedied.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHN93TqdkHo

Complete with melodeon beard  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on February 24, 2014, 06:44:44 PM
I'd like to nominate Four Up for a future Tune of the Month, just because it is a great tune.  Delilah would be pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on February 26, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Following  on from a recent thread, how about 'tunes using more than one key' as theme of the month.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: robotmay on February 26, 2014, 01:36:35 PM
Following  on from a recent thread, how about 'tunes using more than one key' as theme of the month.

That'd be pretty fun. Would it include transposing a tune part-way through or just tunes that are actually written in multiple keys?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on February 26, 2014, 02:21:27 PM
That's a good idea !
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on February 26, 2014, 03:48:43 PM
or maybe  ''' tunes using more than one key on a one row'' ( or of course on one row of a 2 or 3 row box)

or on similar but different lines  '' tunes with accidentals on a one row''  (''     ''        '''              ''        '')

george
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on February 26, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
Nah, too hard for most players. Stick to 'tunes where the A and B (or C) parts are in different keys'
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: boxcall on February 26, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
or maybe  ''' tunes using more than one key on a one row'' ( or of course on one row of a 2 or 3 row box)

or on similar but different lines  '' tunes with accidentals on a one row''  (''     ''        '''              ''        '')

george
I like it, I don't know how well I could do but could be fun or funny.
also what about playing a tune in one key then switching to another  2nd time though  and third key if you can on a one row or on the row.
Johnny Connolly does this on a lot of tunes because He can, I try to play tunes I know in different keys just to better understand the instrument
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on February 26, 2014, 06:17:40 PM
Future thread: Music of Playford, English Country Dancing Master, etc.?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on March 01, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
Future thread: Music of Playford, English Country Dancing Master, etc.?

Hee hee - we started off with that one! May be time to do it again soon.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on March 04, 2014, 12:02:46 AM
Future thread: Music of Playford, English Country Dancing Master, etc.?

Hee hee - we started off with that one! May be time to do it again soon.

How about manuscript tunes from any manuscript other than Playford? Might encourage people to explore the Village Music Project a little.  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on March 24, 2014, 08:21:05 AM
Picking up from another thread, how about Cunamulla Stockmans/Stockings jig for Tune of the Month ? It deserves to be played more .

http://soundcloud.com/kevin-holland-7/cunnamula-stockmans-jig-on-a/s-4SVeF

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: sqwzboxstudent on March 27, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Id like to nominate simon ritchies " thaxted square "  for a future tune of the month if possible ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on March 27, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
Thaxted Square seconded!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on April 16, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
How about When the King Enjoys his Own Again? See thread in Tunes.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on June 21, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
I would like to suggest "Flowers of Edinburgh" for a future Tune of the Month, just because it is beautiful.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on June 21, 2014, 11:34:13 PM
How about Dr Fauster's Tumblers? Probably one of the most rousing tunes out there.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on June 22, 2014, 08:14:30 AM
Rousing, very enjoyable, but complex? Seems to have about 27 parts …
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on June 22, 2014, 08:23:24 AM
Rousing, very enjoyable, but complex? Seems to have about 27 parts …

????

X: 21
T:Dr Faustus' Tumblers
M:4/4
L:1/4
K:G
D | GDGA | BGBc | d2 cB | A/G/A/B/ A D |
GDGA | BGBc | d2 cB | A3 :|
: D | D C/D/ B,D | D C/D/ B,D |GFEA | F E/F/ Dd |
d c/d/ BB | B A/B/ GG | B,G A,F | G3 :|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on June 22, 2014, 02:23:48 PM
How about Dr Fauster's Tumblers? Probably one of the most rousing tunes out there.

Who wrote that? Am I right in thinking it's Chris Wood?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on June 22, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
How about Dr Fauster's Tumblers? Probably one of the most rousing tunes out there.

Who wrote that? Am I right in thinking it's Chris Wood?

I was under the impression it was an 18th century jobbie. I don't have the "Complete Brass Monkey" CD to hand (it's in the car and it's gin o'clock on a Sunday - remember I'm 2 hours ahead of UK and in a country where the sun gets over the yardarm much earlier than it does further north - and I can't be bothered to go and get it) to check the provenance they give it, but in "Opus Pocus" it's uncredited, which suggests our old friend Anon.  I could, of course, be wrong....... :|glug

Graham
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sage Herb on June 22, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
How about Dr Fauster's Tumblers? Probably one of the most rousing tunes out there.

Who wrote that? Am I right in thinking it's Chris Wood?

I was under the impression it was an 18th century jobbie. I don't have the "Complete Brass Monkey" CD to hand (it's in the car and it's gin o'clock on a Sunday - remember I'm 2 hours ahead of UK and in a country where the sun gets over the yardarm much earlier than it does further north - and I can't be bothered to go and get it) to check the provenance they give it, but in "Opus Pocus" it's uncredited, which suggests our old friend Anon.  I could, of course, be wrong....... :|glug

Graham
It's 18th Century, printed in several publications by Walsh. My late and much-lamented mate Barry Callaghan ('Hardcore English') also cited it as having been published in a late (1726) edition of Playford.
Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 22, 2014, 03:00:31 PM
I don't know if it's been suggested before but I'd like to nominate The Sussex Waltz. It's a lovely tune that sounds pretty in it's simplest form but it leaves a lot of scope for the more advanced players to get stuck into.

X:1
T:Sussex Waltz, The
R:waltz
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:Gmaj
|:"G" d2d2 "D" cA|"G" B3A G2|"D" FG A2F2|"G" GA B2 "Am" c2|
"G" d2d2 "D" cA|"G" B3A G2|"D" FG A2F2|1 "G" G2A2B2:|2 "G" G2B2G2||
|:"D" FG A2F2|"G" GA B2G2|"Am" AB c2e2|"G" d2 Bd "D7" cA|
"G" B3d "D" cA|"G" B3A G2|"D" FG A2F2|1 "G" G2B2G2:|2 "G" G6||

Here it is played to great effect by Martin Ellison (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_tt6GsyRM).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on June 22, 2014, 11:31:59 PM
It's 18th Century, printed in several publications by Walsh. My late and much-lamented mate Barry Callaghan ('Hardcore English') also cited it as having been published in a late (1726) edition of Playford.
Cheers
Steve

Thanks - that's great; 3 good nominations for next month!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: nigelr on June 23, 2014, 09:52:20 AM
Can I add 'Enrico' as an option - I think it's been nominated before but I couldn't see that it has actually been a ToTM.  Thanks.  N
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 23, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
Can I add 'Enrico' as an option - I think it's been nominated before but I couldn't see that it has actually been a ToTM.  Thanks.  N

Great idea - this tune just squeaked onto my to-learn list only yesterday too  :|||: (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on June 23, 2014, 11:33:03 AM
Can I add 'Enrico' as an option - I think it's been nominated before but I couldn't see that it has actually been a ToTM.  Thanks.  N

I agree - it's a cracking tune; don't really understand why it hasn't won. It will return in the vote, though probably not next month.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: MatlockBather on June 24, 2014, 06:26:43 AM
Following on from Helena comments elsewhere about getting more/different folks to join in, howsabout having "the last tune you learnt" as a theme? Everybody has one  ;)  Include the usual background about the why's and when's - play fair though and no sticking up a link to the last TOTM you did!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on June 24, 2014, 09:08:25 AM
howsabout having "the last tune you learnt" as a theme?

Not counting the one you've just had to learn as tune of the month, of course.
...but a good idea!  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on June 24, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Could i put in a plea for tunes "umlearned".

I thought I'd got deux frères sussed, but …in the working up I've clearly simplified it. Ollie's excellent video has proved this to me. Back to the drawing board, and the original source.  :Ph
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 24, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
Could i put in a plea for tunes "umlearned".

I thought I'd got deux frères sussed, but …in the working up I've clearly simplified it. Ollie's excellent video has proved this to me. Back to the drawing board, and the original source.  :Ph

Sorry but I'm not quite with what you are suggesting. Presumably a Theme of the Month - perhaps titled 'Work in Progress' or 'Three Wheels on my Wagon'? I'm really not being facetious but wouldn't that work better in the Teaching and Learning forum?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peter Savage on June 25, 2014, 07:48:12 AM
I nominate "The White Joak" for ToTM.  I was not familiar with this tune until Ollie posted this jigs: https://soundcloud.com/olliekingbox/the-white-joak

I think it would make an ideal ToTM as it can be played very simply, but allows room for adding more (as Ollie demonstrates). 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: robotmay on July 24, 2014, 09:20:00 PM
How about a medieval theme at some point? I've been learning a few funky 13th Century tunes which translate quite well to the melodeon, but anything up to 17th Century (including Playford) could make for some fun and less common tunes.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on July 24, 2014, 09:45:06 PM
I nominate "The White Joak" for ToTM.  I was not familiar with this tune until Ollie posted this jigs: https://soundcloud.com/olliekingbox/the-white-joak (https://soundcloud.com/olliekingbox/the-white-joak)

I think it would make an ideal ToTM as it can be played very simply, but allows room for adding more (as Ollie demonstrates).

I would agree but Joaks or Jokes come in several colours so a Tune or Theme of the Month entitled 'Tell us a Joak/Joke' leaves lots of room for personal interpretation.  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on July 31, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
Suggestion for a Theme of the Month, sparked by Chris Ryalls thread about boxes gathering dust.

TOTM is very useful in making me play all of my boxes. Maybe a good theme could be the same tune played on all of the boxes someone owns? It's a very good way to hear how different they are !

 (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sandy Flett on August 10, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
I like Pikey's suggestion. I did a TOTM a while back on three boxes and got favourable comments, not least saying which box sound they liked best.

My suggestion for a ThOTM is tunes played with "interesting" bass end work. I would be especially interested to see how much we can squeeze out of the standard DG 8 buttons, and then how much more could be achieved if we had that extra F#/C# bass button like Ollie has on his Erica (which I saw and enjoyed listening to at Sidmouth last week).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on August 26, 2014, 11:41:17 AM
I noticed both at Sidmouth and Whitby that there are very few players who play a lot using octaves. I use the technique a lot, as it's a great way to a) add interest b) make tunes that use the top end less squeaky and c) make more volume  ;)

The East Anglian one row players such as Oscar Woods do this a lot, as do a few Cajun players.

So to encourage more players to explore the delights of octave playing, how about a Theme of the Month for tunes played using octaves?

It wouldn't have to be a whole tune necessarily, it could be just phrases.

Thoughts ??

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on August 26, 2014, 11:43:27 AM

My suggestion for a ThOTM is tunes played with "interesting" bass end work. I would be especially interested to see how much we can squeeze out of the standard DG 8 buttons, and then how much more could be achieved if we had that extra F#/C# bass button like Ollie has on his Erica (which I saw and enjoyed listening to at Sidmouth last week).

Picking up on that, and after Anahatas amazing Whitby workshop on bass end work, how about really pushing the boat out and going for "tunes played entirely on the basses"  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on August 26, 2014, 01:19:48 PM
The East Anglian one row players such as Oscar Woods do this a lot, as do a few Cajun players.

Not just a few Cajun players, Pikey. They all do it a great deal: it is one of the things that gives Cajun music its distinctive sound.

However, I agree with Pikey that playing in octaves can add colour and emphasis to non-Cajun tunes as well and it is something I do frequently.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on September 01, 2014, 12:33:48 AM
How about major/minor tunes? Tunes where one part is in a major key, and the other is in a minor key. Could be either be the relative minor (think Rochdale Coconut Dance), or the parallel key (think Balls to Hall, or Ice House Schottische No.2). Would open up some interesting experimentation opportunities too!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 09, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
Having just learnt this beautiful Slow Air, made especially well known by Tony Hall's version on his Mr. Universe CD, I would like to propose "Mrs Hamilton of Pencaitland" for tune of the month. The dots are here:
X: 1
 T: Mrs. Hamilton Of Pencaitland
 R: reel
 
M: 4/4
 L: 1/8
 K: Dmaj
 ||A2 G2|F6 G2|A4 A4|B4 d4|B4 G4|F4 d4|A4 F4|E4-E4|-E4 G4|F6 G2|A4 A4|B4 c4| d4 g4|f2 a2-a4|f6 e2|d4-d4|-d4 A2 G2|F6 G2|A4 A4|B4 d4|A4 f4|g6 e2|f4 d4|e4-e4|-e4 A2 G2|F6 G2|A4 A4|B4 d4|A4 F4|G2 F2 G2 B2|A4 F2 E2|D4-D4|-D4 a2 g2|f6 a2|g4 e4|d4-d4|-d4 e2 f2|g6 b2|a4 f4|e4-e4|-e4 a2 g2|f6 a2|g4 e4 |d4 f4|A4 F4|G4 B4|A4 F2 E2|D4-D4|-D4 a2 g2|f6 a2|g2 e2 c2 e2|d4-d4|-d4 e2 f2|g4 b4|a2 f2 d2 f2|e4-e4|-e4 f2 g2|a6 f2|g2 f2 e2 g2|f4 d4|A4 F4|G2 F2 G2 B2|A4 F2 E2 |D4-D4|-D4 ||

It's not too hard for people (like me) with less experience but, I think, would allow lots of scope for more experienced players to 'play about with'. I really enjoyed learning this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o04Z-IW_tjU
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 09, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
T: Mrs. Hamilton Of Pencaitland
R: reel

Why does anything in 4/4 on thesession.org automatically get labelled a "reel"?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 09, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Having just learnt this beautiful Slow Air, made especially well known by Tony Hall's version on his Mr. Universe CD, I would like to propose "Mrs Hamilton of Pencaitland" for tune of the month. The dots are here:
X: 1
 T: Mrs. Hamilton Of Pencaitland
 R: reel


Yes, I really enjoyed your versions of this - nice idea.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 09, 2014, 05:10:38 PM
T: Mrs. Hamilton Of Pencaitland
R: reel
Why does anything in 4/4 on thesession.org automatically get labelled a "reel"?
Yes - I've noticed that too! Also, I always view the accuracy of anything I find there with suspicion; frequently the ABC coding is (not to put too fine a point on it) horrible.  :o

Mrs Hamilton of Pencaitland is indeed a lovely slow air. I've tidied up the ABC considerably...

X:1
T:Mrs. Hamilton of Pencaitland
T:Slow air
C:Nathaniel Gow (1763 - 1831)
R:Slow air
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=86
K:Dmaj
P:A
AG | F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 B2 G2 | F2 d2 A2 F2 | E6 G2 |
F3G  A2 A2 | B2 c2 d2 g2 | fa3 f3e | d6 AG |
F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 A2 f2 | g3e f2 d2 | e6 AG |
F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 A2 F2 | GFGB A2 FE | D6 ag ||
P:B
f3a g2 e2 | d6 ef | g3b a2 f2 | e6 ag |
f3a g2 e2 | d2 f2 A2 F2 | G2 B2 A2 FE | D6 ag |
f3a gece | d6 ef | g2 b2 afdf | e6 fg |
a3f gfeg | f2 d2 A2 F2 | GFGB A2 FE | D6 |]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 10, 2014, 11:17:04 PM
I've tidied up the ABC considerably...

X:1
T:Mrs. Hamilton of Pencaitland
T:Slow air
C:Nathaniel Gow (1763 - 1831)
R:Slow air
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=86
K:Dmaj
P:A
AG | F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 B2 G2 | F2 d2 A2 F2 | E6 G2 |
F3G  A2 A2 | B2 c2 d2 g2 | fa3 f3e | d6 AG |
F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 A2 f2 | g3e f2 d2 | e6 AG |
F3G A2 A2 | B2 d2 A2 F2 | GFGB A2 FE | D6 ag ||
P:B
f3a g2 e2 | d6 ef | g3b a2 f2 | e6 ag |
f3a g2 e2 | d2 f2 A2 F2 | G2 B2 A2 FE | D6 ag |
f3a gece | d6 ef | g2 b2 afdf | e6 fg |
a3f gfeg | f2 d2 A2 F2 | GFGB A2 FE | D6 |]

Thanks Steve!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: syale on October 11, 2014, 02:00:18 PM
I would like to suggest The Old Man & The Old Woman (Le bonhomme & la bonnefemme)

Excellently played by Serge Carrier here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9Cj06ds6g&list=UUccd-3hgUKxVYyYMG1W38yA)

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Old Man And The Old Woman
M:4/4
R:Reel
K:C
EF | GAGE CEGE | FGEG D2 Bc | dedc BGAB | cdec G2 EF |
GAGE CEGE | FGEG D2Bc | dedc BGAB | c2 cB c2 :|
EF | GccB c2BA | GBBA B2AG | FAAG A2GF | ECEF G2 EF |
GccB c2BA | GBBA B2AG | FAAG A2GF | ECCD C2 :|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 04, 2014, 03:55:15 AM
What about a Theme of the Month in which we choose one tune and push ourselves to try new ways to dress it up, i.e. using countermelodies, different harmonies, alternate voicing of chords, clever bass lines, accompaniment styles, etc.? Of course, that already happens in the Tune of the Month, but maybe if we treated it as a Theme, we could stretch ourselves and make a point of exploring all of the possibilities.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 06, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
Music of expatriots and immigrants and connections back to the homeland.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 06, 2014, 06:03:56 PM
A "long and winding road" theme that includes music of pilgrimages, treks, and journeys toward destinations.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 06, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
A Celtic Nations theme that encompasses England, Cornwall, Wales, Scotland, Isle of Man, Ireland, Brittany and Galicia, to enjoy the both the similarities and the contrasts. Make a case for extending the title of Celtic Nation to Nova Scotia, Asturias, Cantabria, etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 06, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Music of Northern Ireland
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: bellmartin on November 06, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
Marches
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: butimba on November 14, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Idea for a future theme: tunes you want to share with people (e.g. because you think they're great tunes that not enough people know about, or just because you're proud you've actually managed to learn them... or even because you want to get constructive feedback on your performance of a tune as you don't think it sounds quite right...)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on November 14, 2014, 07:30:41 PM
A Celtic Nations theme that encompasses England, Cornwall, Wales, Scotland, Isle of Man, Ireland, Brittany and Galicia, to enjoy the both the similarities and the contrasts. Make a case for extending the title of Celtic Nation to Nova Scotia, Asturias, Cantabria, etc.

Except that England isn't a Celtic nation; it's very definitely Germanic/Scandinavian.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 18, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
From what I understand, recent DNA testing has revealed that most English people have more Celtic blood in them than anything else. The successive Anglo-Saxon, Scandinavian and Norman invasions merely superimposed a relatively small ruling elite onto a predominantly Celtic population.
(Written from my home on the northern edge of the Celtic kingdom of Elmet in the Yorkshire Dales.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris Ryall on November 18, 2014, 11:46:09 PM
Depends whether you regard "English" as being about deoxyribonucleic acid, or culture  … or about a nice meal ticket for life in the case of one burgeoning politician?

Incidentally DNA (specifically Y chromosome) testing has revealed that the wives of oen particular surname have historically had by far the most faithful wives in the nation. I'll let you guess which. It isn't "farage"  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on November 19, 2014, 01:51:09 AM
[[[ There's a very nice forum for discussing this sort of thing... right over here (http://mudcat.org)  :o ]]]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: butimba on November 30, 2014, 10:24:01 PM
Would like to nominate a couple of tunes: Mrs Savage's Whim (as performed by Boldwood here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrn377kyz44) and Charlotte by Naragonia. (The first is in Bm and seems to sit quite well on a D/G; no idea about the second one but it doesn't sound too tricky.) Both very sweet tunes.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on December 04, 2014, 12:05:47 PM
I would like to suggest, any tune composed by Stephan Delicq for Theme of the Month. Most are quite beautiful and many would fit on a D/G I think.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 26, 2014, 12:03:44 AM
Can't find a youtube for Naragonia's Charlotte - nice tune though, I agree - anyone found a demo of it being played?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 27, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
My goodness is MySpace still going ? :-) Do you know what type of dance they use this for? I hear it as a slow jig - is it a rondeau? Or a somewhat advanced waltz?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on December 27, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
I would like to suggest, any tune composed by Stephan Delicq for Theme of the Month. Most are quite beautiful and many would fit on a D/G I think.

Have avoided artist based themes so far - tempting though this one is, but we did do Bob Cann as I recall so maybe, now that he's passed. I wouldn't call his music easy though - it will all fit on a 2row 8bass, but the man was a genius with it and could and did do things on it I can only dream of...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Roger Howard on December 27, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
I would like to suggest, any tune composed by Stephan Delicq for Theme of the Month. Most are quite beautiful and many would fit on a D/G I think.

Have avoided artist based themes so far - tempting though this one is, but we did do Bob Cann as I recall so maybe, now but the man was a genius with it and could and did do things on it I can only dream of...

But at least we do dream of them. ....   ;)

Roger
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: syale on December 27, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
I like the band Tidal Wave (Raz de Marée)

For TOTM I suggest Quadrille franco-americain No 4. More advanced players could do two tunes or even all three

Track 08 on the album Marche Du St-Laurent from Tidal Wave is these three tunes played together

Quadrille franco-americain No 4
http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Quadrille_Franco-Am%C3%A9ricain_No._4 (http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Quadrille_Franco-Am%C3%A9ricain_No._4)

Gigue du commerce
http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Gigue_du_commerce (http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Gigue_du_commerce)

Quadrille franco-américain No 3
http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Quadrille_Franco-Americain_No._3 (http://www.tunearch.org/wiki/Quadrille_Franco-Americain_No._3)

Stephen
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: TomBom on December 29, 2014, 11:05:15 PM
I like Quigley's reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-aoxOA9Hk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-aoxOA9Hk)
sheet music: http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/pub-session-tunes/008445.HTM (http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/pub-session-tunes/008445.HTM)

Bluebell Hornpipe: http://youtu.be/Itgt_AacsCA?t=4m21s (http://youtu.be/Itgt_AacsCA?t=4m26s)
https://thesession.org/tunes/11582 (https://thesession.org/tunes/11582)

Both tunes can be played on one row.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: TomBom on January 07, 2015, 06:06:44 PM
I suggest 3/2 Hornpipes as ThoTM.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: butimba on January 07, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
I would like to suggest, any tune composed by Stephan Delicq for Theme of the Month. Most are quite beautiful and many would fit on a D/G I think.

Have avoided artist based themes so far - tempting though this one is, but we did do Bob Cann as I recall so maybe, now that he's passed. I wouldn't call his music easy though - it will all fit on a 2row 8bass, but the man was a genius with it and could and did do things on it I can only dream of...

Nadiejda could make a great tune of the month. It's a simple tune and easy to play on a D/G, but leaves lots of room for variation etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ollie on January 07, 2015, 07:28:00 PM

Bluebell Hornpipe: http://youtu.be/Itgt_AacsCA?t=4m21s (http://youtu.be/Itgt_AacsCA?t=4m26s)
https://thesession.org/tunes/11582 (https://thesession.org/tunes/11582)

Best. Tune. Ever.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: TomBom on January 07, 2015, 09:29:36 PM
My goodness is MySpace still going ? :-) Do you know what type of dance they use this for? I hear it as a slow jig - is it a rondeau? Or a somewhat advanced waltz?
Sorry, I overlooked your question. It is in Naragonia's tune book, filed under 'Musique', so not a waltz, not a jig, but notated in 6/8.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on January 07, 2015, 10:02:19 PM
I'd like to suggest "Return from Helsinki" by Ian Stephenson for Tune of the Month,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlsegqAUaCw
The dots and ABCs are on The Session
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on January 09, 2015, 04:37:21 PM
I'd like to suggest "Return from Helsinki" by Ian Stephenson for Tune of the Month,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlsegqAUaCw
The dots and ABCs are on The Session
A splendid suggestion (:) - I've been trying to learn this recently with much help with bass chords on the tune thread from Clive and Roland's contributions. I think it's a tune that players at all stages could have a go at and learn a lot from.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: GPS on January 11, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
Don't know whether this is the right place for this - there doesn't seem to be a "Suggestions for Future Themes" category. I was wondering if we'd done tunes with foods in their titles; I was just playing around with Marmalade Polka, Lumps of Plum Pudding and Jenny Pluck Pears....

Graham
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 01, 2015, 01:34:18 AM
Don't know whether this is the right place for this - there doesn't seem to be a "Suggestions for Future Themes" category. I was wondering if we'd done tunes with foods in their titles; I was just playing around with Marmalade Polka, Lumps of Plum Pudding and Jenny Pluck Pears....

Graham

Yes, good idea. Why not?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Broadland Boy on February 02, 2015, 10:48:38 PM
Hope this is OK for ThOTM suggestions as well

There does not currently appear to be a tune in the melodeon repertoir entitled 'Chewing a Wasp', this is clearly a catastrophic oversight on so many levels.

With the wealth of tune-smithing talent out there in melnet land, I would like to suggest for a future ThOTM and perhaps voted on at the month end, a twin theme, best or most appropriate tune composed to become known thenceforward as 'Chewing a Wasp', with a concurrent vote for the composer demonstrating the best CaW face while performing it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread April 2015
Post by: Martin P on March 08, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
Might I suggest "And the band played Waltzing Matilda" as April 25th is the centenary of the start of The Gallipoli disaster. Question of which key to play it in as I have heard it in G, D, and I think The Pogues sang it in A. Suggestions welcome.

Oh, and singing along is optional.

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellisteph on April 17, 2015, 09:57:02 AM
How about 'choose one of Blackman's hornpipes' ?

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on April 17, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
As it's the 50th anniversary, how about 'hits from Mary Poppins' ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sebastian on April 17, 2015, 10:30:02 PM
I would like to suggest a german tune for a change:

Vetter Michel

https://youtu.be/abCbTASVcCo (first of the set)

abc (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tune/194615/)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: brazilian.BOX on April 17, 2015, 10:40:45 PM
Johannes Pachelbel - "Canon" in D Major.

It's an arrangement to many instruments together, we see many nice videos with a full orchestra playing.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABBzejbplVQ
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: brazilian.BOX on April 17, 2015, 11:45:28 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yU0JuE1jTk

This here would be very nice...

(these both songs Ive just sent obviously I am talking about obviously about we make maybe a version to melodeon).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on April 18, 2015, 10:36:04 AM
how about one of Jimmy Shands own compositions  chosen at random  by the individual. He composed over 200 waltzes,horpipes,jigs, reels, twosteps , marches aand even a mazurka.



his best selling 1955 bluebell polka does not count as it was his arrangement of  a tune first recorded in America in1888 as the little pet polka and which he also recorded a version of in the early thirties

A nice simple DG friendly tune is his first composition c1933 the waltz ''lunan Bay''   various utubes of it of varying quality!

one I particularly like is ''the six twenty twostep''  a 3 parter of which the first two are fine on a DG box and the tird in C not so easy!
It was the signature tune of the tv programme the white heather club which was transmitted at twenty past six!  youtube sound track of the man himself playing it

george
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Harp2 on April 30, 2015, 02:30:51 AM
Id like to suggest this great sounding tune. I don't  know anything about it but would like to learn it. I can only find one version of it on a melodeon. I believe its called Haughs o' Cromdale but correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wQgpzgxrNI
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellisteph on April 30, 2015, 08:42:11 AM
Id like to suggest this great sounding tune. I don't  know anything about it but would like to learn it. I can only find one version of it on a melodeon. I believe its called Haughs o' Cromdale but correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wQgpzgxrNI
Tunes often have several names - I've always known this as Trallee Gaol.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Harp2 on April 30, 2015, 06:12:47 PM
Id like to suggest this great sounding tune. I don't  know anything about it but would like to learn it. I can only find one version of it on a melodeon. I believe its called Haughs o' Cromdale but correct me if I am wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wQgpzgxrNI
Tunes often have several names - I've always known this as Trallee Gaol.
Thanks for that info Ellisteph. There seems to be a lot more out there under that title!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: pikey on May 09, 2015, 11:13:31 AM
For Theme of the month, how about 'Tunes that Lester hasn't recorded'?

 >:E
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 12, 2015, 12:12:59 AM
Not a tune of the month, but a theme of the month suggestion:
Singing a duet, to your own playing, in front of a mass audience, whilst roller blading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL8C8CD203EB867189&v=CpmDAu_47OE
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on June 12, 2015, 07:05:02 AM
Any excuse to post another link to dieTwinnies, eh?
I didn't need to click on it to know what that would be!
I look forward to your own contribution, to set us all an example  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on June 12, 2015, 10:53:12 PM
Any excuse to post another link to dieTwinnies, eh?
I didn't need to click on it to know what that would be!
I look forward to your own contribution, to set us all an example  :D
Sorry,I hadn't come across it before. :-[ But it is extraordinary.
Working on my contribution or, rather, trying to work my way round technical problems. You're on a promise ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Jack Campin on June 13, 2015, 12:26:58 AM
Quote
Quote
Id like to suggest this great sounding tune. I don't  know anything about it but would like to learn it. I can only find one version of it on a melodeon. I believe its called Haughs o' Cromdale but correct me if I am wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wQgpzgxrNI
Tunes often have several names - I've always known this as Trallee Gaol.

That tune is an Irish polka derived from "The Haughs of Cromdale" - the Scottish tune was, I think, first printed as a song in Hogg's "Jacobite Relics" and is still often sung (the words are a great example of historical bollocks for the sake of a good story).  It's most often played as a strathspey under the "Haughs of Cromdale" title, but there is a reel version of it in Kerr's Merry Melodies volume 1, "Glen Lyon".
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on June 17, 2015, 11:50:54 PM
I'm going to suggest a Theme of the Month ... tunes named for a person (real or fictional) Play the tune and share something about the person.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on June 22, 2015, 10:28:24 AM
The Rose of Raby by Dave Shepherd of Blowzabella.

I recorded this tune yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb7Db9FGU2o and thought what a great Tune of the Month it would make. I would love to hear what the more experienced players do with it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 16, 2015, 07:52:41 PM
From the Wm.Vickers manuscript, a super jig called The Recruiting Officer. Anahata play a verion from Aird's Airs that has a slightly different flavour.

X:1
T:Recruiting Officer, The
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=105
K:D
A|"D"def "A"edc|"D"d3 A2F|"G"GAB "D"AGF|"A"E3A,3|"D"def "A"edc|
"G"BgB "D"A2G|FdF "A"Edc|"D"d3-d2::g|"D"fga "A"ecA|"G"g3 "D"f3|
"G"Bcd "Em"efd|"A"c3 Aag|"D"fed "A"cac|\
"G"BgB "D"A2G|FdF "A"Edc|"D"d3-d2:|

A Youtube that's almost note for note, played at a sedate pace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zseK8dO239Y).

Anahata and Mary playing a close relative! (starts around 1:56 in) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrrNp8aFgDA)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris on September 01, 2015, 07:57:35 PM
Hello everyone, this is my first post. I suggest the scottish from Marc Perrone "Esperanza"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQecKFasWTM
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 01, 2015, 09:28:45 PM
Hello everyone, this is my first post. I suggest the scottish from Marc Perrone "Esperanza"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQecKFasWTM

I would like to second that!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: The Happy Wanderer on September 17, 2015, 06:26:29 PM
How about this fiddle tune called Maple Sugar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIYRYZHZYJc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Greyhound on October 25, 2015, 09:22:28 PM
I've recently discovered a lovely tune called Kevin Keegans's Waltz,the second tune in this clip.
It's a bit above my pay grade at the moment ::)
I'd love to see it played by some of the more accomplished players on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYrhPcOIddI
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on November 19, 2015, 10:53:46 PM
May I suggest "Flatworld" by Andy Cutting. Please. Pretty Please?  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on November 20, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
May I suggest "Flatworld" by Andy Cutting. Please. Pretty Please?  (:)

Yes, that's a good idea - can't believe we haven't done that one yet.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on November 20, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
Royal Scots Polka  is an interesting and reasonably tricky tune that works well on the row ( or accross if you prefer) on a standard 2 row box

there is a youtube vid of an early recording of Jimmy Shand playing the royal scots  polka

george
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris on December 06, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
My suggestion for the next month is the beautiful mazurka from Norbert Pignol called "La Guiguette"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxfjUBjRhk

or here my version :

https://youtu.be/EaEpa3VsXsQ
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Chris on December 06, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
Another suggestion if you allow me. This is a tune coming from Kosovo called Adje Jano

https://youtu.be/x5I9lcx2fBc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Psuggmog Volbenz on December 12, 2015, 09:57:54 PM
Dance of the little rabbits:
http://nozbreizh.fr/Extraits/pere%20jean%20-%20grands%20interpretes%20de%20bretagne%20-%20volume%203%20-%2037-danse%20des%20petits%20lapins.mp3

I found this and many more as a result of following links found in the thread:
The home life of the melodeon player....
http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,17937.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 09, 2016, 12:37:43 PM
Looking through the list of tunes that we've had as Tune of the Month so far I was surprised to see that The Cheshire Waltz hasn't made it through. It's a lovely old tune that can be played straight or developed into something a little more adventurous as it is here by Squeezy & Jon Boden (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh_dNzXhT50).

Here is the tune as transcribed by The Village Music Project:

X:84
T:Cheshire Waltz. JGi.084
O:Tealby,Lincolnshire
M:3/8
L:1/16
Q:3/8=60
S:Joshua Gibbons MS,1823,Tealby,Lincs.
R:waltz
Z:VMP/R.Greig, 2009
K:C
G2|e2efed|c2cdcB|A2B2c2|G4e2|f2e2d2|a2g2B2|d2c2c2|c4:|
|:f2|egfedc|B2d2f2|egecGE|C2E2G2|F2A2e2|f2d2c2|B2dcBA|G4G2|
e2efed|c2cdcB|A2B2c2|G4e2|f2e2d2|a2g2B2|d2c2c2|c4:|
|:G2|E2G2c2|c2B2A2|B2d2g2|f4e2|f2e2f2|A2d2c2|B2c2A2|G4:|
|:F2|E2G2c2|c2B2A2|B2d2g2|f4e2|f2e2f2|A2d2c2|cBAGAB|c6||

Here's my attempt at an abc with several slight alterations, somewhat in the spirit of S&B:

X:61
T:Cheshire Waltz, The
N:Spiers and Boden version
B:The Lincolnshire Collection
Q:100
M:3/8
L:1/16
Z:Peter Dunk 5 April 2008
K:D
|:f3 gfe|d3 edc|B2c2d2|A4f2|g2f2e2|A2d2c2|d6|1 d6:|2 d4g2|
|:f2 afed|c2e2g2|fafdBF|D2F2A2|G2B2f2|g2e2d2|c2 edcB|A4A2:|
|:f3 gfe|d3 edc|B2c2d2|A4f2|g2f2e2|b2a2c2|e2d2d2|1 d6:|2 d4|
|:A2|F2A2d2|d2c2B2|c2e2a2|g4f2|g2f2g2|B2e2d2|c2d2B2|A4:|
|:A2|f2 fgfe|d2 dedc|B2c2d2|A4f2|g2f2e2|b2a2c2|e2d2d2|d4:|
|:G2|F2A2d2|d2c2B2|c2e2a2|g4f2|g2f2g2|B2e2d2|1 c2d2B2|A4:|2 dcBABc|d6|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on January 10, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
Cheshire valtz was tune of the month for march 2011  :|||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 10, 2016, 07:38:58 PM
So it was, I missed it on the spreadsheet  ??? . As you were!  :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Martin P on January 11, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
Might I suggest any Bowie tune, if possible on Melodeon. Life on Mars would be fabulous.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: James Whitehouse on January 15, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Would really like the History Man to be tune of the month. One of my all time favorites

video of Andy Cutting playing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He6SdbpiCCs
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Broadland Boy on January 16, 2016, 01:55:12 AM
In deference to Martin P's suggestion (if adopted) could we subsequently have one with any tune having Sir John in the tune or lyrics - to celebrate the enoblement (the first?) of a melnet member (Cugiok)

After sober reflection, one tune within Martins suggested theme stands head and shoulders below the others in appropriateness, is often featured in members video's and would give these dumb companions an opportunity to sing - The Laughing Gnome
(ed for content)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on March 06, 2016, 11:50:25 AM
"the list of tunes that we've had as Tune of the Month"

Is there such a thing? I've been searching, but to no avail. (A "Yes" answer is not really sufficient [Broadland Boy?] a link would be very welcome, though.)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 06, 2016, 12:09:01 PM
"the list of tunes that we've had as Tune of the Month"

Is there such a thing? I've been searching, but to no avail. (A "Yes" answer is not really sufficient [Broadland Boy?] a link would be very welcome, though.)

Thank you.

It's pinned at the top of the Tune of the Month forum!

Tune and Theme of the Month - Index (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,10802.0.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on March 06, 2016, 12:12:29 PM
There's none so blind as those that will not see!

Thank you.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Ellisteph on March 07, 2016, 06:33:24 PM
How about Rob Harbron's Road to Poynton? Play & Teach gave us a quick snatch of it for the 'Places' theme & Anahata hinted that he wished he'd thought of it. Leveret have a lot of admirers on this site so I'm sure it would be interesting to see their interpretations of this tune.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on March 19, 2016, 02:53:49 PM
Ollie has dredged up a classic and plays it delightfully here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEAe0fhb8os) I think this would make an excellent Tune of the Month, ABCs in the original key of Bb and also G for the D/G players

X:73
T:Hole in the Wall, The
C:via folk process from Henry Purcell
B:Playford's Dancing Master 1651-1678. Edited by Jeremy Barlow
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=130
K:Bb
d>e (d/e/f) cf|B>c (B/c/d) Ad|G>A (G/A/B) Fd|B3 A B2:|
|:b>a (g/a/b) ag|^f>g (f/g/a) da|b>a (g/a/b) ag|g2 ^f g2|
G>A (G/A/B) (A/B/c)|B>c (B/c/d) (c/d/e)|d>e (d/e/f) Ff|d2 c/d/ B2:|

X:74
T:Hole in the Wall, The
C:via folk process from Henry Purcell
B:Playford's Dancing Master 1651-1678. Edited by Jeremy Barlow
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
K:G
B>c (B/2c/2d) Ad|G>A (G/2A/2B) FB|E>F (E/2F/2G) DB|G3 F G2:|
|:g>f (e/2f/2g) fe|^d>e (d/2e/2f) Bf|g>f (e/2f/2g) fe|e2 ^d e2|
E>F (E/2F/2G) (F/2G/2A)|G>A (G/2A/2B) (A/2B/2c)|B>c (B/2c/2d) Dd|B2 A/2B/2 G2:|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on March 22, 2016, 11:33:28 PM
Theme of the month suggestion: Melody by any of of the great musicians who've died in the first part of 2016
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Sebastian on March 23, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
Dschinghis Khan:

https://youtu.be/eAEUrp2V4ss

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Dschinghis Khan
C:T: Dr. Bernd Meinunger M: Ralph Siegel
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=170
W:Sie ritten um die Wette mit dem Steppenwind, tausend Mann.
W:Und einer ritt voran, dem folgten alle blind, Dschinghis Khan.
W:Die Hufe ihrer Pferde, die peitschen den Sand.
W:Sie trugen Angst und Schrecken in jedes Land.
W:Und weder Blitz noch Donner hielt sie auf.
W:
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan!
W:Hey, Reiter! Ho, Leute! Hey, Reiter, immer weiter!
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan!
W:Auf, Br\"uder! Sauft, Br\"uder! Rauft, Br\"uder, immer wieder!
W:Lasst noch Wodka holen! (Ho, ho, ho, ho!)
W:Denn wir sind Mongolen! (Ha, ha, ha, ha!)
W:Und der Teufel kriegt uns früh genug!
W:
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan!
W:Hey, Reiter! Ho, Reiter! Hey, Reiter, immer weiter!
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan!
W:Hey, M\"anner! Ho, M\"anner! Tanzt, M\"anner, so wie immer!
W:Und man h\"ort ihn lachen, (Ho, ho, ho, ho!)
W:Immer lauter lachen. (Ha, ha, ha, ha!)
W:Und er leert den Krug in einem Zug.
W:
W:Und jedes Weib, das ihm gefiel, das nahm er sich in sein Zelt.
W:Es hiess, die Frau, die ihn nicht liebte, gab es nicht auf der Welt.
W:Er zeugte sieben Kinder in einer Nacht.
W:Und \"uber seine Feinde hat er nur gelacht.
W:Denn seiner Kraft konnt' keine widerste'n.
W:
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan! [...]
W:
W:Dsching, Dsching, Dschinghis Khan! [...]
K:Em
"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|e2 gb-b4|"G"b2 ag b2 ag|b2 ag bbag|"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|
e2 gb-b4|"G"d'2 c'b d'2 c'b|"B7"c'2ba g2 f2|"Em"e8|z4 z2 z b||
|:"Em"baag gffe|e B-B B-B Bed-|"D"d2 d'2 d2 d'2|d2 d'2 d2 d' b|
"Em"baag gffe |e B-B B-B Bed-|"D"d2 d'2 d2 d'2|d2 d'2 d2 d' e|
"Am"c'c'bb ae ze |c'c'ba- a2 z e |"Em"bbaa ge z e|bbag- g2 z g|
"Am"a2 a2 a2 a2|"C7"g2f2 e2g2|"B"b8- |b2 B2 b2 B2||
"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|e2 gb-b4 |"G"b2 ag b2 ag|b2 ag bbag |
"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|e2 gb-b4 |"G"d'2 c'b d'2c'b|d'2 c'b d'd'c'b||
"Am"aaab c'a-a2 |c'c'ba- a2 z2 |"Em"ggga bg- g2 |bbag- g2 z2|
"Am"a2 a2 a2 a2|"C7"g2f2 e2g2|"B"b8 |bc'ab gafg||
"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|e2 gb-b4 |"G"b2 ag b2 ag|b2 ag bbag |
"Em"e2 z2 e2 z2|e2 gb-b4 |"G"d'2 c'b d'2c'b|d'2 c'b d'd'c'b||
"Am"aaab c'a-a2 |c'c'ba- a2 z2 |"Em"ggga bg- g2 |bbag- g2 z2|1
"Am"a2 a2 a2 a2|"B7"b2 a2 g2f2|"Em"e8- |e2 z2 z2 z b:|2
"Am"a2 a2 a2 a2|"B7"b2 c'2 ^c'2 ^d'2|"Em"e'8|e'2 b2 e'2 z2|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Grape Ape on April 27, 2016, 01:28:38 AM
Nadiejda
by Stephane Delicq.  The notes themselves are simple enough, as is getting them in the right order.  It's how they need to be expressed that is very difficult.  I just started trying to learn this piece today, and while I can get the notes right, I have a long way to go before it sounds at all good.

Curse you Arty and Playandteach for introducing me to this master of melodeon whose cds or downloads are no where to be found!!!!!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tami-USA on April 30, 2016, 12:49:04 AM
I'd like to suggest Partie de Lancier for TotM,  Here is an example on a PA.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxZ3kHY9jCg
There is an example on the buttonbox site (at this time - the used Hohner Corona I)I.  Dots below from abcnotation.com.

Also, I would like to suggest all 3 tunes that Clive plays here for future TotM's:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJM9w8ulQHc       The Box in the Attic,  Northern Nanny and The Low Flier.   I need dots.     


X:1
T:Partie de Lancier [5]
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:D
FBc dcB|FBc dcB|FBc dcB|f5f|
cff cff|cff f2f|fgf edc|B6 :||
A3 FAd|f5 f | f2e d2e | B6 |
B2c dcB |AFA f3 | AAA ABc |1 d6 :||2 d3 =c3 ||
B2B GAG | e^de d3 | BAB dBd |  =cAF DFA |
=c=c=c =cBA |f5 e| ded =cBA | BGE D3 |
B2B GAG | e^de d3 | BAB dBd | =c5 d |
eee e^de | ddd dcd | fed =cBA | G6:||
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Stockaryd on June 02, 2016, 11:06:32 PM

 Sorry, just have to ask, has this been  tune of the month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucbqI6Tv9g
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on June 03, 2016, 12:40:39 PM

 Sorry, just have to ask, has this been  tune of the month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucbqI6Tv9g

No need to apologize! That's a fantastic tune, and it hasn't been done during my time here.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 14, 2016, 08:06:52 PM
How about a music hall favourite, Nelly's Hat aka The Saucy Little Bird on Nelly's Hat. Great fun!

X:1
T:Nelly's Hat
T:Saucy Little Bird on Nelly's Hat, The
C:Alfred Soloman
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
K:G
(3DEF|"G" G2G2 G>B A>G|"D" (3FGA d2 "C" d2- d>c|"G" B>d B>G "C" A>c A>F|"G" G>A (3BAG "C" D2 (3DEF|
 "G" G2G2 G>B A>G|"D" (3FGA d2 "C" d2- d>c|"G" B>d B>G "C" A>c A>F|"G" G2 G2G2:|
|:B>c|"G" d2d2 "C" d2e2|"D" d2 c>B "C" c2 A>B|"C" c>B A>B "D" c2d2|"C" c2 B>A "D" B2 (3DEF|
 "G" G2G2 G>B A>G|"D" (3FGA d2 "C" d2- d>c|"G" B>d B>G "C" A>c A>F|"G" G2 G2G2:|

MP3 from MIDI, three times through (https://app.box.com/s/mxxd9jagtlg4i2j808r1f9tyrwlk1jf0).

Edited to change the composer's name after being advised it was incorrect.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 14, 2016, 08:27:19 PM
How about a music hall favourite, Nelly's Hat aka The Saucy Little Bird on Nelly's Hat. Great fun!

Never heard the song before but been called Nell for large bits of my life - so I'd have to give this one a go  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on June 15, 2016, 12:41:41 AM

 Sorry, just have to ask, has this been  tune of the month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CucbqI6Tv9g

No need to apologize! That's a fantastic tune, and it hasn't been done during my time here.

Nope, not yet! I think it'll make it into next month's poll though- thanks for the suggestion :-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on June 15, 2016, 07:53:16 AM
Never heard the song before but been called Nell for large bits of my life - so I'd have to give this one a go  (:)


We need thumbs up thingy!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 09, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Could we have something of Stephane Delicq's please? I would suggest "La Discrete" which, in my view, is a masterpiece for melodeon: http://youtu.be/zg_SwNw-yJw
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 09, 2016, 11:21:28 AM
Could we have something of Stephane Delicq's please? I would suggest "La Discrete" which, in my view, is a masterpiece for melodeon: http://youtu.be/zg_SwNw-yJw

It is, but it's freakishly difficult in my opinion... or at least I find it so. It also needs accidentals, which not everyone has...

May I suggest this one instead, Manette - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Uu8p7Lk78

Lovely tune; makes a nice jig (it was written as a Rondeau) and there's a 5/4 version too. I don't have a box to hand but I think it has an accidental in it too, but it can be played around/skipped if necessary.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on September 09, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
I actually find Discrete straightforward. This is not a boast, as I know my many limitations - so I am curious to know why this works for me.
It could be:
1 - A high level of motivation to learn it
2 - the reversals I have make it lie well
Manette is more challenging for me.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 09, 2016, 12:18:27 PM
Thanks Clive....'fiendishly difficult' - you have made me terrified now, as I have just put La Discrete at the top of my 'to learn' list.
Actually, I would be very happy with any of Stephane Delicq's tunes. The one you suggest, Manette, seems fraught with difficulties as well.

I have recorded 'Les Amities', which is beautiful and simple really. With just one accidental needed, it is also good practice for the left hand as the time signature is 8/8....so, 1,2,3, 1,2,3 1,2. This is me playing it, (sorry for the self promotion). http://youtu.be/lz3aKkNGgkk

Or, Valse pour Michel is gorgeous and with no accidentals. Here it is played through quite slowly: http://youtu.be/6J-IUvKJdzI

Cheers Clive, thanks for your interest. David.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on September 09, 2016, 04:27:48 PM
Could we have something of Stephane Delicq's please?

Support, support.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 09, 2016, 04:50:34 PM
Do you all promise to learn, play and post a recording?  :D

Re: La Discrete - the bit that I really struggle with is the run down at the end of the A music; it doesn't help of course that all of my melodeons have wildly different accidental setups! I've got a youtube of me playing it on my youtube channel (on a G/C Hohner with the accidental down the low end). I did it once, but I wouldn't do it in public without practicing it! It's a *bit* easier on the Van der Aa which has the accidental in the right direction on the 3rd row. Still hard though. You're all tough as nails!   :o
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 09, 2016, 04:57:10 PM
Well, I promise! I'm going to do it anyway because I can't play Stephane Delicq without learning La Discrete can I? I shall start tonight 😊
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: JM on September 09, 2016, 05:06:12 PM
More support for a Delicq tune.   

Maybe an easier Delicq as an entry into that land?  Loubov is on the simpler end, though I could imagine players better than I could make much more of it than I could.  Or maybe its just theme of the month, and members could just choose one?


JM
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: heartshaped1 on September 09, 2016, 07:12:14 PM
More support for a Delicq tune here. I'm happy with La Discrete because I already did it last month in the tunes you've just learned thread! But wasn't Nadiejda suggested some pages back and not picked up? It doesn't have accidentals and as previously pointed out, is fairly straightforward to learn but lots of scope for adding extras, sixths etc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 12, 2016, 11:00:27 AM
Could we have something of Stephane Delicq's please? I would suggest "La Discrete" which, in my view, is a masterpiece for melodeon: http://youtu.be/zg_SwNw-yJw

It is, but it's freakishly difficult in my opinion... or at least I find it so. It also needs accidentals, which not everyone has...


Having spent time over the weekend with La Discrete, it really isn't too much of a problem. Yes there are a couple of tricky bits but nothing that some practice won't smooth out. Having watched your video Clive, I respectfully suggest that, if you used your thumb to reach the accidental at the end of the 'A' part, you would find it easier. Also, in the 'B' section, it is essential to use the thumb to play the sixths.
Heartshaped1 is doing it very well in her video posted on the "tunes just learned" thread.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on September 12, 2016, 04:48:30 PM
Of course, I learnt it on a 2+2 row which makes it very comfortable.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 12, 2016, 07:16:43 PM
I respectfully think you are right :-) I've enjoyed the Nadeija (sp?) thread recently - missed it first time round - I think given the quality of the demonstrations in that thread it would make a very good ToTM .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on October 31, 2016, 11:51:50 AM
I'd like to nominate 'Bagpipers' for a future ToTM, I fell in love with this tune when I heard it on the second Leveret album and again when Lady Maisery released a version of it.


X:145
T:Bagpipers
M:2/4
L:1/8
Q:1/2=60
S:Wm.Mittell's MS, New Romney,Kent,1799
O:England
A:Kent
F:http://richardrobinson.tunebook.org.uk/Tune/9995
K:D
A|\
(B/c/d d)c|B3A|(B>ABc)|(d/c/d/e/ d)A|\
(B/c/d d)c|B3A|(B>A)(Bc)|d2d:|!
|:e|(f/g/a a)f|(f2e2)|(f/g/f/g/) aa|\
(f/e/f/g/ a)a|(B/c/d d)c|B3A|(B>A)(Bc)|d2d:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nigel on November 20, 2016, 06:33:40 PM
I'd like to nominate 'Bagpipers' for a future ToTM, I fell in love with this tune when I heard it on the second Leveret album and again when Lady Maisery released a version of it.

I like this suggestion.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on November 20, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
The next tune to pop up on youtube after I listened to Bagpipers was Sylvia's Serenade (seems a bit like the Purcell tune used for Britten's Young Person's Guide). Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on December 02, 2016, 09:43:39 AM
what about "the lonesome boatman" which I discovered recently ?
It seems to be an irish tune for whistles or flutes, but I listened to a beautiful rendering with a melodeon, on youtube, I do like it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on December 02, 2016, 07:06:15 PM
This is a link to The Lonesome Boatman, which diatosoldo has suggested:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tkaOO4Dwc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nigel on December 18, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
Please could we try a delightful schottische called "Rue des Prés" composed by Stéphane Durand.
It's covered in a recent topic headed "Tune Info Wanted: Rue de Pres".
Having voted for many tunes in order to learn from you Guys, it's time to pluck up courage and post my first effort. Please make me do it with this tune. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on December 18, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
what about "the lonesome boatman" which I discovered recently ?
It seems to be an irish tune for whistles or flutes, but I listened to a beautiful rendering with a melodeon, on youtube, I do like it.
Seems a beautiful tune, I can't work out from my scanty research if it was written along with a poem - or indeed whether it has been adopted or intended for political / historical events? Was it written in the 60s or does it go back further than that?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lyra on December 18, 2016, 07:02:51 PM
Seems a beautiful tune, I can't work out from my scanty research if it was written along with a poem - or indeed whether it has been adopted or intended for political / historical events? Was it written in the 60s or does it go back further than that?
Finbar Furey wrote this in 1968, originally on a 5 string banjo, although I've always heard it as a whistle tune, which makes it hard for me to see how it would fit on a melodeon - specifically the B that relies heavily on bending the notes. It's been used a lot in TV and films apparently (citation needed ;) )
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on December 18, 2016, 07:40:08 PM
Please could we try a delightful schottische called "Rue des Prés" composed by Stéphane Durand.
It's covered in a recent topic headed "Tune Info Wanted: Rue de Pres".
Having voted for many tunes in order to learn from you Guys, it's time to pluck up courage and post my first effort. Please make me do it with this tune.
http://tapage.pagesperso-orange.fr/cd2/ruedespres.htm
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on December 18, 2016, 07:43:22 PM
Seems a beautiful tune, I can't work out from my scanty research if it was written along with a poem - or indeed whether it has been adopted or intended for political / historical events? Was it written in the 60s or does it go back further than that?
Finbar Furey wrote this in 1968, originally on a 5 string banjo, although I've always heard it as a whistle tune, which makes it hard for me to see how it would fit on a melodeon - specifically the B that relies heavily on bending the notes. It's been used a lot in TV and films apparently (citation needed ;) )
I got a sheet but no easy to read .. written in F major .. I am not sure it is exactly the original tune ..

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lyra on December 19, 2016, 08:21:40 AM
I have two versions - both in D. One is clean and one is a transcription of what Finbar plays (more or less) with all the twiddles and chords.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on December 19, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
Strikes me that the barlines are in the wrong place in all the versions I've seen - probably just copied and adapted from one source. The bending appears to happen before the barline. So if we move the barlines 1 crotchet to the right it should line up. Although I am newly introduced to the tune, I have listened to a few versions on youtube, and the chords change on the seoond crotchet of the bar.
Also, I hear it in B minor -rather than D.
I do appreciate the pdf uploads - that's always the most important starting place for me, correcting them is no sweat from a good starting point.
On the point of bending the notes, it almost ruins the tune for me - partly because of the frequency of the bends in so many of the versions I've heard, but also because the players seem to abandon accurate intonation when they do play the straight notes eventually. I like my weeping to be more internalised. It might be something I should seek help for from my childhood, or my sax playing past where too many players find how to bend a note too soon. I've always preferred finger bends to lip bends (I do realise that even finger bends require throat / lip subtle changes).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lyra on December 19, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
I should have said "in two sharps" - mea culpa was in a rush. Although
You're right about the bar lines in the simple version - the other is other. Someone's corrected it on the Session
X: 2
T: The Lonesome Boatman
R: reel
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Dmaj
fe|f4-fgfe|fB4ABc|d4-ddcB|AF3-F4-|-F4-F2
fe|f4-fgfe|fB3-BABc|d4-ded/c/B| c4 F2A2|B8-|-B6 :|
:f2| ^g8-|-^g6e2|f8-|-f6f2|^g8-|-^g6e2|f8-|-f4-fff/e/d/c/|
d6 e/d/c/B/|c4-cBBA| F8-|-F6fe|f4-fgfe|fB4ABc|
d4-ded/c/B|c4F2A2| B8-|-B6||
There's a version on youtube  that has an interesting piano accordion version (once the whistle's finished his twiddling  >:E )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgDCjQFNiFc
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on December 20, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
I have two versions - both in D. One is clean and one is a transcription of what Finbar plays (more or less) with all the twiddles and chords.
Thank you Lyra  (:)
I will have a look and see if I can manage something with it ..
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Joan Kureczka on December 23, 2016, 07:21:05 PM
A second request here, for "Rue des Pres."
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: diatosoldo on December 24, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
A second request here, for "Rue des Pres."
http://tapage.pagesperso-orange.fr/cd2/ruedespres.htm
Is it the tune you are looking for ? I put it already, did you notice ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Nigel on December 24, 2016, 02:43:59 PM
A second request here, for "Rue des Pres."
http://tapage.pagesperso-orange.fr/cd2/ruedespres.htm
Is it the tune you are looking for ? I put it already, did you notice ?
It's ok, Diatosoldo. We're putting forward suggestions for the tune to be a Tune of The Month, However, thank you for posting the music score.
Also Clive, I wish you a speedy recovery and a Happy Christmas.     
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peter Savage on February 22, 2017, 08:38:45 AM
"Time Will End" by Jeremiah McLane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xpPbicFu0

On Spotify there is the album by Mr McLane called "Smile When You're Ready".  This album contains 2 versions of "Time Will End"; 1 on piano accordion (similar tempo to the example above) and then a much slower piano version.  I have to say that the slower piano version is particularly nice and I would certainly give that a go if this tune makes ToTM. 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on April 03, 2017, 08:56:27 AM
May I suggest this tune by John Whelan, called "Trip to Skye", https://youtu.be/SvZwQ2S_1BI
Sheet music available on the web site of Yann-Fanch Perroches: http://www.perroches.com/tablatures/gifs/triptoskye.gif
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on April 08, 2017, 02:47:26 PM
Here's a nice waltz with plenty of scope for noodling, The Bluemont Waltz by Rodney Miller (http://www.bluemontva.org/historyarticlebluemontwaltz.html).

Expertly played here by Matt Cranitch & Jackie Daly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb08Xm5kxcc&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb08Xm5kxcc&feature=youtu.be)

ABC: (chords seem a bit dodgy here and there!)

X:1
T:Bluemont Waltz, The
C:Rodney Miller
M:3/4
L:1/8
%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%partsfont Arial, 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
%%barnumbers 1
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=140
K:Amix
V:1
E A>B|:"A" c4 (3cBA|"E" B3 d c>B|"F#m" A F3 A2|F4 (3EFE|"D" D4 (3FED|"E" E2 A3 c|B6|B3 E A>B|
"A" c4 (3cBA|"E" B3 d c>B|"F#m"A F3 A2|F4 E2|"D"D4 (3FED|"E"E2 c3B|[1"A"A6|A3 E A>B:|[2"A"A6|c2d2e2|
|:"D" f4 f2|"E"e3 f e>d|"A"d c3-c2|c4 B2|"F#m"A4 A2|"E"B2 A3 e|"A"c6|c2>B2A2|
"Bm"B3 A B>c|"E"B4 A>F|"A"E A4 E|"F#m"F A3 F2|"D"D4 (3FED|"E"E2 c3 B|[1"A"A6|c2d2e2:|[2"A"A6|A3 E A>B|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: syale on April 09, 2017, 03:01:47 PM
Here's a nice waltz with plenty of scope for noodling, The Bluemont Waltz by Rodney Miller (http://www.bluemontva.org/historyarticlebluemontwaltz.html).

Expertly played here by Matt Cranitch & Jackie Daly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb08Xm5kxcc&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb08Xm5kxcc&feature=youtu.be)


How wonderful  (:)
Stephen
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Phil B on April 09, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
Nice tune I first herd in played by Sean Mc Comiskey and Jim Eagan who take a different slant at it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhWJLTdWAes Both versions a pleasure to listen to and If chosen in the future would give an opportunity for AD boxes as well
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 14, 2017, 12:07:16 AM
As I hardly ever contribute I always feel guilty about making suggestions for Tune of the Month but I do like to think that my taste for a good tune far outstrips my ability to play them. So here's another that's an absolute cracker and worthy of your consideration, The Kennington Jig written by John Dipper.

Played to a high standard here on anglo concertina by a very young Jake Middleton:

The Kennington Jig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsw5vWkD1w0)

Here's the ABC:

X:1
T:Kennington Jig, The
C:John Dipper
R:jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%partsfont Arial, 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
%%barnumbers 1
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:3/8=90
K:Gmaj
V:1
B|:B>AG ABd|FGA G2A|A>Bc d>BG|E>FG AFD|
B>AG ABd|FGA .[GD]z d|d2G GAB|[1A3 G2z:|[2 A3 GAB||
|:c2d edc|dcB A2D|B2B cdB|AGA B2A|
c2d edc|FGA .[GD]z d|d2G GAB|[1 A3 GAB:|[2 A3 G2||
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on June 28, 2017, 07:50:17 AM
A couple more nominations from me - Moll in the Wood and The Good Old Way.  Both on my 'to learn' list at the moment and I really need to get around to doing another ToTM submission.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Maggie on July 11, 2017, 02:38:03 PM
Hi - this is my third attempt to post a suggestion for tune of the month - my last two efforts tried to include a sound clip and I think it was too big a file to post, but my apologies if they somehow get through and this appears several times....

My suggestion for tune of the month is Valse Batignolles Clichy.  The link to a Youtube clip is here:

https://youtu.be/P6f_M67DewU

I have a simple mp3 file of the tune in a format much easier to learn, but cannot attach it.

Hope you like the tune

Maggie   :|||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on July 23, 2017, 04:09:59 PM
My suggestion for tune of the month is Valse Batignolles Clichy.  The link to a Youtube clip is here:

https://youtu.be/P6f_M67DewU (https://youtu.be/P6f_M67DewU)

I have a simple mp3 file of the tune in a format much easier to learn, but cannot attach it.

I found a PDF of the tune here (http://cabrette.cabrettaire.free.fr/Publications/Repertoires/Pdf_Do/Valses_do/44-A_Batignolles-Clichy-do.pdf).

Your sound file and PDF are here (https://app.box.com/s/lj8joe5hkx2rloab92ks4qtjiiq1korc).

I'll be back with an ABC in a while . . .
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on July 23, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
PDFs and mp3 sound files generated from the abc files in C and D are here (https://app.box.com/s/idurtpfak9qnqbs1ms0rampmv8rbywuf).

X:1
T:Valse d 'Auvergne Batignolles-Clichy
C:Gauwin-Daris
M:3/4
L:1/4
%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica,16
%%partsfont Arial, 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
%%barnumbers 0
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=280
K:C
V:1
!segno!zcd|egf|{/g}e{/f}cd|egf|{/g}e{/f}cd|e3|f2e|{/f}d3-|
dBc|d.fe|{/f}dBc|dfe|{/f}dBc|d3|
e2f|e3-|ecd|egf|{/g}e{/f}cd|egf|{/g}e^cd|e3|
f2g|Hf3-|fAB|c{/d}AB|ccd|e{/f}cd|e3|{/f}d2-d|
de^f|g3-|g2g|fff|_e2e|ddd|c2c|_eee|
_eBc|d3-|dz2||"^Refrain"ccc|de{/f}d|c3|{/d}G3|eee|
fgf|{/g}e3|{/f}c3|G.B.d|.fe{/f}d|ege|c3|
{/d}ABc|d2e|{/f}d3-|d3|ccc|de{/f}d|c3|
{/d}G3|eee|fgf|{/g}e3|{/f}c3|{/d}GBd|fe{/f}d|
ege|c3|ded|G2G|c3-|!segno!cz2|]

X:2
T:Valse d 'Auvergne Batignolles-Clichy
C:Gauwin-Daris
M:3/4
L:1/4
%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica,16
%%partsfont Arial, 20
%%partsbox
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
%%barnumbers 0
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=280
K:D
V:1
!segno!zde|fag|{/a}f{/g}de|fag|{/a}f{/g}de|f3|g2f|{/g}e3-|
ecd|e.gf|{/g}ecd|egf|{/g}ecd|e3|
f2g|f3-|fde|fag|{/a}f{/g}de|fag|{/a}f^de|f3|
g2a|Hg3-|gBc|d{/e}Bc|dde|f{/g}de|f3|{/g}e2-e|
ef^g|a3-|a2a|ggg|=f2f|eee|d2d|=fff|
=fcd|e3-|ez2||"^Refrain"ddd|ef{/g}e|d3|{/e}A3|fff|
gag|{/a}f3|{/g}d3|A.c.e|.gf{/g}e|faf|d3|
{/e}Bcd|e2f|{/g}e3-|e3|ddd|ef{/g}e|d3|
{/e}A3|fff|gag|{/a}f3|{/g}d3|{/e}Ace|gf{/g}e|
faf|d3|efe|A2A|d3-|!segno!dz2|]
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Maggie on July 23, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
My suggestion for tune of the month is Valse Batignolles Clichy.  The link to a Youtube clip is here:

https://youtu.be/P6f_M67DewU (https://youtu.be/P6f_M67DewU)

I have a simple mp3 file of the tune in a format much easier to learn, but cannot attach it.

I found a PDF of the tune here (http://cabrette.cabrettaire.free.fr/Publications/Repertoires/Pdf_Do/Valses_do/44-A_Batignolles-Clichy-do.pdf).

Your sound file and PDF are here (https://app.box.com/s/lj8joe5hkx2rloab92ks4qtjiiq1korc).

I'll be back with an ABC in a while . . .

Many thanks, Pete.  That is really helpful.  The sheet music you found is for a slightly different version - the one that I originally learned.  The people that I play music with gave me the hand-written sheet music.  Both versions are good tunes.

Thanks again for your help

Maggie  :|||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on July 24, 2017, 09:14:07 AM
Thanks all; for info, I'm considering changing the TOTM format this month to combine it with Theme of the Month; the idea being we have a theme, and then somewhere between 2 and 4 *suggested* tunes of that type you could try (so the suggestions become the TOTM, even though there are more than one). Vary the difficulty of those, and you have something for everyone, or people can choose to do something else completely.

So (as an example only - haven't chosen theme yet) - we could have a theme of waltzes, with Valse Batignolles Clichy (as nominated below, thank you!), La Marianne, Valse des Jouets, Sherbourne Waltz (Orange in Bloom) as suggestions, but people could still choose to learn/record something completely different if they want.

There would be no poll, but the fact you can record any of the choices, or ignore them if you want, gives everyone choice too.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on July 24, 2017, 09:48:28 AM
Sounds good to me  (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Maggie on July 24, 2017, 02:03:57 PM
I like that idea.  Makes it easier also to learn and post a new tune in the relevant key(s) for our melodeons

Maggie :|||:
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on July 24, 2017, 02:29:40 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: -Y- on March 31, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
Would it be too soon to have a sort of theme of the month as a tribute to Bernard Loffet ? Something like playing his compositions?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on April 01, 2018, 05:37:56 AM
Would it be too soon to have a sort of theme of the month as a tribute to Bernard Loffet ? Something like playing his compositions?

A bit I think. A great loss indeed.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on May 17, 2018, 06:42:28 PM
I've scoured the spreadsheet that lists previous tunes of the month and I'm surprised to find that Oscar Wood's Jig has never been done. It may have been nominated and failed to make the cut of course but if so it's time it was given another chance!

X:84
T:Oscar Wood's Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
%%titlefont Helvetica, 22
%%subtitlefont Helvetica,16
%%gchordfont Arial, 16
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:3/8=100
K:G
V:1
A|"G"BAG BAG|Bcd ded|BAG BAG|"A"A2A "D"A2c|"G"BAG BAG|
"G"Bcd "C"e2e|"G"d2g dBG|"D"A3 "G"G2::A|"G"B2d d2B|"C"c2e e2c|
"G"B2d d2B|"Am"c2A "D"A3|"G"B2d d2B|"C"c2e e2c|"G"d2g dBG|"D"A3 "G"G2:|

Edited to add ABC
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on May 18, 2018, 12:27:46 AM
Great idea for a future tune, Pete! I hope it makes it as a Tune of the Month.

I am aware of the 'folk process' and how tunes mutate over the years, which is fine - it's part of the oral/aural tradition. But for this particular tune, we have a record of how Oscar Woods played it, and as he was (nearly) the originator of the tune, I think it's worth giving Oscar's own version, as close as we can get to it. A notable feature of Oscar's playing was his consistency. Archive recordings indicate that he played tunes virtually identically on repeats and even on different recordings made at different times and locations. It certainly eased my job in transcribing the tunes for the tune book 'Before the Night Was Out'. The comments at the end of the ABC code are taken in part from that publication. 

X:1
T:Tiger Smith's Jig
T:(a.k.a. Oscar's Jig)
S:'English Country Music From East Anglia' (Topic 12TS229)
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=108
K:Cmaj
P:(A)
EDC EDC|EFE GAG|CDC EDC|.D2D- DAG|
EDC EDC|GAG A2A|G2c- cDC|D3 C3||
P:(B)
.G2G- G2E|.F2A- A2E-|E2G- GDC|.D2D- D2C-|
C2G- GFE|.F2A- A2A|G2c- cDC|D3 C3|]
W:
W:Notated directly from the playing of Oscar Woods from an archive recording (c. 1970) which
W:was subsequently issued on the 33 rpm LP 'English Country Music From East Anglia'
W:(Topic 12TS229).
W:
W:This transcribed version of the recording appears in the East Anglian tune book
W:'Before the Night Was Out', published by the East Anglian Traditional Music Trust, 2007.
W:
W:Oscar learned the tune from his neighbour, Tiger Smith, in the Suffolk hamlet of Sternfield.
W:No other contemporary version of this tune has been identified.
W:
W:Oscar played the tune on a 1-row 4-stop melodeon in the key of C, very consistently
W:in the syncopated style, as shown, and with no repeats of the A and B sections. The only
W:chords available were C and G on the push and pull bellows directions, respectively.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 21, 2018, 09:52:20 AM
Thanks George - will just stick these here for future reference...

SUGGESTIONS FOR THEME OF THE MONTH:

Tunes you’ve been asked to never play again.

Tunes you only learned after you figured out how to fake your way through the difficult bits.

Tunes you thought everyone should know but discovered no one but you does.

“Wrong genre” tunes you like to sneak into the session anyway.

Tunes you still love but everyone else is bored with.

Tunes you never get to play because they’re not in a proper melodeon key at your session.

Your first (or most recent?) “Everest” tune. (An Everest tune is a tune you thought you’d never master but now play with ease.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: boblsturm on July 24, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
Dear all,

If one Tune of the Month is not enough for ye, we have just started running the Machine Folk Tune of the Month: https://themachinefolksession.org/tune-of-the-month/

This is a website collecting tunes created by or co-created with machines. See http://folkrnn.org for an example. The Bottomless Tune Box YouTube channel has several recordings of such new music: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7wzmG64y2IbTUeWji_qKhA .

Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on September 05, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
Tunes with Puns for Titles
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on September 06, 2018, 12:54:36 AM
Theme of the month suggestion: Tunes that didn't make Tune Of The Month (may have already been done. If so, I missed it).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 08, 2018, 10:10:32 PM
Theme of the month suggestion: Tunes that didn't make Tune Of The Month (may have already been done. If so, I missed it).

Nice idea; we did this about 3 years ago, but it's certainly due for another run...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Fred on September 11, 2018, 01:53:03 AM
Tunes written by a fellow MelNetter (but not yourself)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on September 11, 2018, 07:31:47 AM
We've done tunes written by another melnetter, but it was June 2012,so could be due for a re-run.

Have we done travel/transport as a theme? Lots of ships, trips to..., road to... etc.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on September 11, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
have we done anything on the lines of 'American' (ish) square dance tunes.  eg golden slippers, swanee river, oh susana, yellow rose of texas, red river valley etc etc etc?


another thought is 'tunes played with a different rhythm  from normal'   i.e changed to suite a different purpose.  An example  of this was a pre war Jimmy Shand recording for a 'palais glide' ( a then popular ballroom/social dance  a bit like the hoky cokey)    He played   road to the isles, swanea river and ken john peel all fitting together and perfectly adapted to the palais glide dance rhythm which was far removed from the march rhythm of road to the isles .



george
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on September 11, 2018, 11:18:41 AM
Have we done travel/transport as a theme? Lots of ships, trips to..., road to... etc.
That's a nice idea! (:)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on September 11, 2018, 08:07:17 PM

another thought is 'tunes played with a different rhythm  from normal'   i.e changed to suite a different purpose.  An example  of this was a pre war Jimmy Shand recording for a 'palais glide' ( a then popular ballroom/social dance  a bit like the hoky cokey)    He played   road to the isles, swanea river and ken john peel all fitting together and perfectly adapted to the palais glide dance rhythm which was far removed from the march rhythm of road to the isles .

george

I think it's been done, but it deserves a repeat. Great fun. You suddenly find you know a tune you didn't know you knew! Clive shines at this game. I've seen evidence. Wonder if I can find it again.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on October 25, 2018, 11:08:43 PM
I've missed the cut for this month which is a shame but here is a lovely Welsh air I think is worth offering as a future tune of the month. This tune was recorded by Huw and Tony Williams on their 'Rosemary's Sister' album and on there it was titled "Alawon Fy Ngwlad" but they were unsure of the provenance. I won't bore you with the details but it appeared on the front cover of the first volume of a 19thC music book of that name but didn't manage to appear inside the book! Referred to as "Hobed o Hilion" on several YouTube renditions the music played doesn't match either of the two tunes so named within the books wwhich is rather odd!


The tune is set in 3/4 but it is a slow air not a Vienese waltz. Originally in Am the PDF music attached also has the tune set in Em which sits well on a D/G box. I'll add a link to mp3 files in both keys if that helps.


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X:1
T:Hobed o Hilion (neu: Alawon Fy Ngwlad)
T:Box of Nails, Bushel of Shavings (or: Melodies of my Country)
N:Translation of 'Hobed o Hilion' obscure/ambiguous
C:Traditional harp tune/song
S:Adaptation by Meurig Williams
S:'Melodeon friendly' chords added
S:http://www.alawoncymru.com/alawon/Tunes/HobedHil/HobHilSt.htm#a2
R:Slow air, song: 'Alawon Fy Ngwlad'
L:1/4
M:3/4
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V:1 gchord=down
V:2
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K:Am
V:1
P:A
|:E|"Am" A>B c|"C" E2 E/2F/2|"G" G G A|"Dm7" D2 C/2D/2|"Am" E E C/2D/2|
"Em7" E E C/2D/2|"F" E A "G" B|"Am" A2::[P:B]B|"C" c B/2c/2 G/2E/2|"Am" c B/2c/2 G/2E/2|
"C" c/2d/2 e/2c/2 d/2B/2|"Dm7" A2 G/2F/2|"Am" E E C/2D/2|"Em7" E E C/2D/2|"F" E A "G" B|"Am" A2:|



X:1
T:Hobed o Hilion (neu: Alawon Fy Ngwlad)
T:Box of Nails, Bushel of Shavings (or: Melodies of my Country)
T:E minor version (transposed from A minor)
N:Translation of 'Hobed o Hilion' obscure/ambiguous
C:Traditional harp tune/song
S:Adaptation by Meurig Williams
S:'Melodeon friendly' chords added
S:http://www.alawoncymru.com/alawon/Tunes/HobedHil/HobHilSt.htm#a2
R:Slow air, song: 'Alawon Fy Ngwlad'
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V:2
Q:1/4=105
K:Em
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|:B | "Em" e>f g |"G" B2 B/2c/2 | "D" d d e | "Am7" A2 G/2A/2 | "Em" B B G/2A/2 |
"Bm7" B B G/2A/2 | "C" B e "D" f | "Em" e2 ::[P:B] f | "G" g f/2g/2 d/2B/2 | "Em" g f/2g/2 d/2B/2 |
"G" g/2a/2 b/2g/2 a/2f/2 | "Am7" e2 d/2c/2 | "Em" B B G/2A/2 | "Bm7" B B G/2A/2 | "C" B e "D" f | "Em" e2  :|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on October 25, 2018, 11:18:56 PM
In Am (https://app.box.com/s/ocv0s10jowhzvcq1nx58hdjisn8nqcmo)
In Em (https://app.box.com/s/frslut1mgmhuk20aba1b99ls7nwdx5t2)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on October 26, 2018, 12:10:00 PM
Here it is in Bm for D/G boxes. Chords are only a suggestion and would need changing for an 8 bass box.

X:149
T:Hobed o Hilion (neu: Alawon Fy Ngwlad)
T:Box of Nails, Bushel of Shavings (or: Melodies of my Country)
N:Translation of 'Hobed o Hilion' obscure/ambiguous
C:Traditional harp tune/song
S:Adaptation by Meurig Williams
S:'Melodeon friendly' chords added
S:http://www.alawoncymru.com/alawon/Tunes/HobedHil/HobHilSt.htm#a2
R:Slow air, song: 'Alawon Fy Ngwlad'
L:1/4
M:3/4
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%%MIDI chordprog 45 % pizzicato strings
%%MIDI gchord fcz
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=110
K:Bm
V:1
P:A
|:F|"Bm" B>c d|"D" F2 F/2G/2|"A" A A B|"Em7" E2 D/2E/2|"Bm" F F D/2E/2|
"F#m7" F F D/2E/2|"G" F B "A" c|"Bm" B2::[P:B]c|"D" d c/2d/2 A/2F/2|"Bm" d c/2d/2 A/2F/2|
"D" d/2e/2 f/2d/2 e/2c/2|"Em7" B2 A/2G/2|"Bm" F F D/2E/2|"F#m7" F F D/2E/2|"G" F B "A" c|"Bm" B2:|

Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on October 26, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
... Originally in Am the PDF music attached also has the tune set in Em which sits well on a G/C box.
Pete, I think you mean 'sits well on a D/G box'. It's the Am version which fits best on a G/C box.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on October 26, 2018, 07:04:24 PM
Oops!  :|bl
Now edited!

 
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Guy on November 05, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
This tune was recorded by Huw and Tony Williams on their 'Rosemary's Sister' album and on there it was titled "Alawon Fy Ngwlad" but they were unsure of the provenance. I won't bore you with the details but it appeared on the front cover of the first volume of a 19thC music book of that name but didn't manage to appear inside the book! Referred to as "Hobed o Hilion" on several YouTube renditions the music played doesn't match either of the two tunes so named within the books wwhich is rather odd!


I'll ask Huw at the next band gig and see if he can shed any further light on this....

Cheers,
Guy
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on November 15, 2018, 02:54:53 PM
Another good tune from Playford, played on a box belonging to a member of Boggart's Breakfast, An Italian Rant (https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR29l3OVPYsrjcDWIwxYN-y1Ymklg3Xudrk6n-HHXhy9Kcm5y2CGOvc1zao&v=HlA0RGHehpY&app=desktop&persist_app=1).
If you prefer chords above the music instead of below simply delete the three lines beginning with V: but don't leave any blank lines in the file or it won't work

X:1
T:Italian Rant, An
C:Playford 3rd ed, 1657
M:4/4
L:1/8
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%%MIDI chordprog 1 % piano
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=140
K:Em
V:1
"C" EFGA "Bm" B2B2|"C" c2BA "Bm" B3B|A2AB "G" G2GA|"C" [1FEFG "C" EBcB:|"C" [2FEFG "C" E4|:
"C" e2e2 "G" d2d2|"Bm"^cBcd B3B|"C" =BcdB c2B2|"Bm" A2AB "G" G2G2|GABG "D" A2F2|
"D" FGAF "C" G2E2|EFGA "Bm" B2B2|"C" c2BA "Bm" B2B2|A2AB "G" G2GA|"C" FEFG E4:|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 12, 2019, 02:36:54 PM
Here's a great tune and it's topical too, Midvintermarschen. Written in the original 2/4 it looks a little daunting, transposed to 4/4 (naughty, naughty!) it's looks simpler and sounds the same through an abc midi player so take your pick!

A recorded version

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdgHInOehhY)A live ensemble version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUAk9Qhrok) (first tune, skip to 50 seconds)

ABCs
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T:Midvintermarschen
T:Midwinter March
C:Torbjörn Henricks Järfäla
S:SELO1996 Utskrivet av Stefan Lindén
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"G"G4D2(GB)|d2d2 "C"(cB)ce|"G"d6((3def)|g2gg "D7"f3c|"C"e2ee "G"d2(GA)|
"G"B3B "D7"(cA)FD|"G"G6::[P:B]B2|"D7"c3B (AB)ce|"G"d4 B2g2|"D7"f2fe (dg)ag|
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T:Midwinter March
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K:G
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(DG)|"G"B2B2 "D7"(cA)FD|"G"G4 D2(GB)|d2d2 "C"(cB)ce|"G"d6(DG)|B2B2 "D7"(cA)FD|
"G"G4D2(GB)|d2d2 "C"(cB)ce|"G"d6((3def)|g2gg "D7"f3c|"C"e2ee "G"d2(GA)|
"G"B3B "D7"(cA)FD|"G"G6::[P:B]B2|"D7"c3B (AB)ce|"G"d4 B2g2|"D7"f2fe (dg)ag|
"G"g6 d2|"D7"c3B (AB)ce|"G"d4B2B2|[M:6/4]"D7"(A3B) c2A2 (DF)AB|[M:4/4]"G"G6:|
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Roger Hare on January 12, 2019, 03:43:32 PM
Another good tune from Playford...An Italian Rant.
If you prefer chords above the music instead of below simply delete the three lines beginning with V: but don't leave any blank lines in the file or it won't work

X:1
T:Italian Rant, An
C:Playford 3rd ed, 1657
M:4/4
L:1/8
 .
%%MIDI program 73 % flute
%%MIDI chordprog 1 % piano
V:1 gchord=down
V:2
Q:1/4=140
K:Em
V:1
 .
Simple question (with a simple answer, I hope): If I do delete the V: lines, the tune plays back with
a pianner as the lead instrument. How do I get it to continue to play with flute as the lead instrument?
I never have quite got my head around the use of V:...

Ta.

Roger
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 12, 2019, 05:32:03 PM
Deleting the three V: lines shouldn't make any difference to the midi voicing (leave no blank lines). My playback sometimes starts with the piano instead of flute, without pressing stop or pause click on rewind << to send it back to the top of the tune, that usually sorts it out.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Roger Hare on January 13, 2019, 05:57:18 AM
Deleting the three V: lines shouldn't make any difference to the midi voicing (leave no blank lines). My playback sometimes starts with the piano instead of flute, without pressing stop or pause click on rewind << to send it back to the top of the tune, that usually sorts it out.
Correct! Thank you! In fact, I can't reproduce the problem now - certainly it wasn't due to blank lines.
My running copy of EasyABC must have got its knickers in a temporary twist.
Roger
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on January 29, 2019, 06:57:33 AM
May I suggest “Origin of the World”  by Dave Shepherd...here is a nice video on a D/G Pokerwork https://youtu.be/2M95cuhjKtA
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on February 01, 2019, 02:22:56 PM
Here's a great tune and it's topical too, Midvintermarschen. Written in the original 2/4 it looks a little daunting, transposed to 4/4 (naughty, naughty!) it's looks simpler and sounds the same through an abc midi player so take your pick!
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdgHInOehhY)

Sorry Pete, don't know how I didn't see this when picking this month's selection. In next month's list, a little belatedly.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Pete Dunk on February 04, 2019, 12:52:58 PM
No worries Clive!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on February 27, 2019, 07:43:12 PM
Harry Kitchener's Jig written by Paul Sartin and featured on Death and Other Animals by Faustus. May Reel was a grand tune to play and I reckon this would be too. I've not learnt it - I'm too busy slogging my way through Origin of the World for March 19 at the mo!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Mcgrooger on March 07, 2019, 01:42:35 PM
Fighting Temeraire by Sandy Shallis. Sandy was one of the most inspiring players on Melnet when I first came on here. I'll be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before but I don't remember it being in a poll.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Dick Rees on March 07, 2019, 02:11:16 PM
Fighting Temeraire by Sandy Shallis. Sandy was one of the most inspiring players on Melnet when I first came on here. I'll be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before but I don't remember it being in a poll.

Second this.  A superb composition.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peadar on March 20, 2019, 07:10:24 PM
Guide me O thou Great Redeemer
 
Seems  entirely appropriate just now......
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on March 20, 2019, 07:51:21 PM
Great hymn there, Peadar, and I've played it before. I could even have a go at recording that one myself.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peadar on March 20, 2019, 09:55:40 PM
Quote
Great hymn there, Peadar, and I've played it before. I could even have a go at recording that one myself.

Yes a great hymn - traditional Welsh tune and well worth having a go at recording. Whether your preferred version is all out on a 4 stop,  or sing along in Welsh (or English).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peadar on May 15, 2019, 11:45:30 PM
Loch Lomond...iconic traditional Scottish tune, in the present day usually set in the key of G or D.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on May 16, 2019, 07:25:56 AM
After our Wensleydale experience, what about any tune learnt on any workshop (at any event)? That might of course bar those who have never attended any events, and I'd hate to do that. So it could be widened to any tune that they've been 'taught' in any interpretation of that word. Maybe along with the story of who taught it to them.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on May 16, 2019, 09:37:53 AM
For theme of the month, have we done Welsh music?
Another possibility is the Buttrey Music Project (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,23252.0.html), to which many Melnetters have contributed transcription efforts.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on May 16, 2019, 11:02:06 AM
Could that be a way in for Peadar's recent suggestion of Cwm Rhondda, perhaps? (Fingers crossed!)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on May 17, 2019, 08:53:11 AM
For theme of the month, have we done Welsh music?
Another possibility is the Buttrey Music Project (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,23252.0.html), to which many Melnetters have contributed transcription efforts.

One of the very early themes; nothing to stop us rerunning it! ... though on reflection, probably not right now since we've just run 'Tunes from the British Isles' a few months ago.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on August 01, 2019, 12:25:04 AM
Theme of the month suggestion: Cereals/Pulses/Legumes, and /or. (Oats, Peas, Beans, Barley etc.)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Julian S on August 01, 2019, 07:40:18 AM
Tempted as I am by Greg's suggestion (broaden to include the vegetables?), I think a theme encouraging the exploration of manuscripts such as Buttrey would be good. However could that be a tad problematic for those who don't read music ?
Which reminds me to put in a late entry to last months theme provided the builders stop hammering today (at least neighbours wouldn't hear our constant music practice !)

Julian
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: baz parkes on August 01, 2019, 10:29:48 AM
Tempted as I am by Greg's suggestion (broaden to include the vegetables?), I think a theme encouraging the exploration of manuscripts such as Buttrey would be good. However could that be a tad problematic for those who don't read music ?
Julian

Yep...but I.m sure people could point us to some recorded versions?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Anahata on August 01, 2019, 10:52:10 AM
Buttrey is quite new, so there won't be many recordings. Even when there are some, by-ear players will be restricted to tunes others have already done while music readers will have the run of the whole ms. to choose from - which seems a bit unfair to me.

On the other hand, it would ensure that recordings of some of the tunes get out in the wild - not a bad thing in itself.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: baz parkes on August 01, 2019, 12:32:42 PM
On the other hand, it would ensure that recordings of some of the tunes get out in the wild - not a bad thing in itself.

True Dat as I believe the young people say.... 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on August 01, 2019, 01:52:37 PM
Buttrey is quite new, so there won't be many recordings. Even when there are some, by-ear players will be restricted to tunes others have already done while music readers will have the run of the whole ms. to choose from - which seems a bit unfair to me.

On the other hand, it would ensure that recordings of some of the tunes get out in the wild - not a bad thing in itself.

On the other hand, the repertoire of the Buttery MS is fairly standard 18C/early19C popular British dance music and ballads, as far as I can see. A lot of the tunes are extant already, as recordings. For those that aren't, A lot of people seem happy to learn from the midi renditions given by abc editors (although, personally, I can't stand them).
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on August 02, 2019, 08:57:23 AM
Theme of the month suggestion: Cereals/Pulses/Legumes, and /or. (Oats, Peas, Beans, Barley etc.)

OK, I'll bite. How many vegetable related tunes can we name?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Steve_freereeder on August 02, 2019, 08:58:56 AM
Theme of the month suggestion: Cereals/Pulses/Legumes, and /or. (Oats, Peas, Beans, Barley etc.)

OK, I'll bite. How many vegetable related tunes can we name?
Here we go gathering spuds in May ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on August 02, 2019, 09:07:20 AM
:-) and so it begins...
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Lester on August 02, 2019, 09:08:57 AM

OK, I'll bite. How many vegetable related tunes can we name?



Buttered Peas
Greengrocer's March
Laudanum Bunches
Lumps of Plum Pudding
Marmalade Polka
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Helena Handcart on August 02, 2019, 09:22:27 AM
Here we go gathering spuds in May ?

Spud the Plough
Banks of the Leek
Onion in Bloom
Mushroom for the Cuckold

I could go on, but if you ask me nicely I won't.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Eshed on August 02, 2019, 09:32:24 AM
I could go on, but if you ask me nicely I won't.
By all means, please do!

Also:
Turnip Hero
Ring O'Bell Peppers
Cauliflowers of Edinburgh
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: baz parkes on August 02, 2019, 09:49:42 AM
Ramsbottom used to have a song called Charlie Sparrer's Marrer…
(For our friends in the North East it was about a large vegetable, rather than one of his friends...) :|glug
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on August 02, 2019, 01:27:23 PM
For theme of the month, have we done Welsh music?

I endorse this. I played for a Welsh dance group once long ago and their tunes had a different quality to them.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Tone Dumb Greg on August 02, 2019, 01:59:55 PM
The Quaker Oat's Wife
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Julian S on August 02, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
Ok - in the spirit of serious European solidarity - 'Plante un Chou'
And there's always Bourree a Gaston Pomme de Terre...

J
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Julian S on August 02, 2019, 02:51:40 PM
And given how well my learning of La Sourde is going perhaps I ought to compose La Salade.

J
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Stotty on August 02, 2019, 09:12:23 PM
The Wearing of the Green(s)?
(A tune that can be a little tedious after playing zillions of times for a long figure in sword dancing, but brightened up by playing in the style of the Rising of Moon by Dubliners)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Gary Chapin on August 06, 2019, 09:38:56 PM
Ok - in the spirit of serious European solidarity - 'Plante un Chou'
J

That IS an amazing tune!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: baz parkes on August 07, 2019, 01:40:37 PM
Corn Riggs?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Peadar on August 10, 2019, 11:51:36 PM
The Marseillese?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Clive Williams on September 09, 2019, 10:11:28 AM
Leyas Vaggvisan? Lars Karlsson
https://youtu.be/J8TBDrqJve8
My version:
https://youtu.be/46FjFUrhL3Q

Nice idea - particularly liked your version :-)
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Janneke Slagter on September 09, 2019, 01:00:11 PM
Leyas Vaggvisan? Lars Karlsson
https://youtu.be/J8TBDrqJve8
My version:
https://youtu.be/46FjFUrhL3Q

Nice idea - particularly liked your version :-)
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on September 09, 2019, 01:52:30 PM
Janneke, you're a lovely player!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: george garside on September 09, 2019, 03:31:12 PM
6.20 twostep
g
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Janneke Slagter on September 09, 2019, 07:56:17 PM
Thank you, Winston! Can't find any playing of yours (:)  ?
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: arty on September 09, 2019, 09:40:37 PM
Leyas Vaggvisan? Lars Karlsson
https://youtu.be/J8TBDrqJve8
My version:
https://youtu.be/46FjFUrhL3Q

Nice idea - particularly liked your version :-)

I really like your version too! Do you have the sheet music Janneke? I know it is on the video but it would be easier just to print it out . Thank you  (:)
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Winston Smith on September 09, 2019, 11:59:53 PM
"Can't find any playing of yours"

You don't really want to, believe me!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Janneke Slagter on September 10, 2019, 08:30:27 PM
"Can't find any playing of yours"

You don't really want to, believe me!
haha!
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: playandteach on September 10, 2019, 08:40:07 PM
Nicely done, but you can already play it!

Did see a reply to this which has disappeared from the screen for some reason. The answer is I don't think there are any rules, and your suggestion is entirely valid and very welcome, but you might miss out on learning something new for yourself.
Title: Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
Post by: Janneke Slagter on September 11, 2019, 12:00:01 AM
Nicely done, but you can already play it!

Did see a reply to this which has disappeared from the screen for some reason. The answer is I don't think there are any rules, and your suggestion is entirely valid and very welcome, but you might miss out on learning something new for yourself.

You really are a teacher!  :|||: I only knew this tune (Leyas Vaggvisa) for 2 days. I can reassure you, I learn a new tune every week. The proof can be heard on my youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/c/JannekeSlagter-trekharmonica  (:)