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Title: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 01, 2010, 01:28:19 AM
The people have spoken! The tune of the month for January is Ashokan Farewell by Jay Ungar (www.jayandmolly.com).

Here's a video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6dxrhqPZY

and here's the ABC, as normally played in the key of D:

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:Ashokan Farewell
C:Jay Ungar
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:D
(A<c) | d3 c B/A | F4 E<F | G3 F E<D | B,2 D3 B, |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 f2 | f3 g f2 | e4 A<c |
d3 c B<A | F4 E<F | G3 F E<D | B,2 D3 B, |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 f2 | A2 c2 e2 | d4 F<G |
A3 F D2 | d4 A2 | B3 c d2 | A2 F2 F<E |
F3 E D2 | B,4 D2 | A,6 | A4 FD |
D2 F2 A2 | =c4 c2 | B3 c d2 | A2 F3 D |
A,2 D2 F2 | A2 d2 F2 E3 A, C2 | D6 ||

Enjoy, and can I encourage people who might be a little put off by the choice of tune to give it a try anyway - TOTM is all about learning, and not necessarily about staying in your comfort zone. Yes, it'll stretch you a bit, but you'll learn stuff too, so give it a go, and share your videos/sound clips about what you've got to - this encourages others too.

If you're struggling with the basses, leave them out - concentrate on putting emotion into the melody. If you haven't got a low B (or whatever the equivalent is on your box), try playing that phrase (or the entire tune come to that) an octave up, and if you're playing a one-row, try to see what else you can fit in instead of that C natural?

One important point - this is *not* a traditional tune. It is written by Jay Ungar, and as such please ensure that any videos or sound clips posted acknowledge Jay's authorship of the tune. Please include the following text on your postings on youtube or wherever:

ASHOKAN FAREWELL by Jay Ungar
Used by permission. All rights reserved.


Many thanks to Jay for his kind permission in letting us play his tune.

Good luck - looking forward to seeing your contributions!

Cheers (oh, and happy new year!)

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 01, 2010, 02:02:23 AM
Lovely tune. Not my choice, but a tune with lots of emotion - should suit the Morgane basses (don't want to get maudlin, despite the time of year). Just been listening to Eddi Reader on the Scottish Beeb giving a great rendition of some Burn's songs for New Year (in the same vein as AF).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GbH on January 01, 2010, 11:32:55 AM
Ok, so I guess someone has to 'dip their toe in the water' first?  OK, not the water exactly, but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEl0V1_5-A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEl0V1_5-A)


Happy new year!


(Warning : not recommended for sufferers of podiaphobia!)


Title: !
Post by: press on regardless on January 01, 2010, 06:36:12 PM

http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiASHOK1;ttASHOK1.html

Edit after reading other posts: Having found this by simple Google is it OK to post it without getting permission from the composer?

thanks Paul 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 02, 2010, 12:58:32 PM
Here is my rendition of Ashokan Farewell. Compared with GbH's, it is rather tame. My usual video nerves (or is it musical incompetence?  :() can be detected at one or two points.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqTcGPbMLbA

I really need to develop a more imaginative bass line. I may post a second video later in the month if I manage to improve the bass line.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: uofdoboe on January 02, 2010, 07:31:30 PM
Lovely tune. Not my choice, but a tune with lots of emotion - should suit the Morgane basses (don't want to get maudlin, despite the time of year). Just been listening to Eddie Reader on the Scottish Beeb giving a great rendition of some Burn's songs for New Year (in the same vein as AF).

So I'm very much a novice, but do [pretend to] play a Morgane D/G.  I don't understand your allusion to the basses - why is this box well-suited?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 02, 2010, 09:24:09 PM
Here is my rendition of Ashokan Farewell. Compared with GbH's, it is rather tame. My usual video nerves (or is it musical incompetence?  :() can be detected at one or two points.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqTcGPbMLbA

I really need to develop a more imaginative bass line. I may post a second video later in the month if I manage to improve the bass line.

It sounds much better than I would have thought with the straightforward bass, nice one (:)

ps I am with you on the nerves with the camera, it has that effect on me too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 02, 2010, 09:53:26 PM
Lovely tune. Not my choice, but a tune with lots of emotion - should suit the Morgane basses (don't want to get maudlin, despite the time of year). Just been listening to Eddie Reader on the Scottish Beeb giving a great rendition of some Burn's songs for New Year (in the same vein as AF).

So I'm very much a novice, but do [pretend to] play a Morgane D/G.  I don't understand your allusion to the basses - why is this box well-suited?

Hi,

Just my opinion, still relatively new myself. The basses seem quite prominent on the Morgane but it may just be the way I perceive them. I think they will work well with a slower atmospheric piece. All subjective (nothing to do with any particular tuning of the basses).

I like my box and think it has a character all of its own, not particularly refined but seems to suit my level of playing (anything too fast and it gets a bit confusing). The comment probably reflects as much about me playing the box as about the box itself. Its going shortly for repair and to be tuned. It'll be interesting to see how it is when it returns. I'm sure it'll still suit AF.

Power to your Morgane.
Neil
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Owen Woods on January 03, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
Ok, so I guess someone has to 'dip their toe in the water' first?  OK, not the water exactly, but....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEl0V1_5-A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqEl0V1_5-A)


Happy new year!


(Warning : not recommended for sufferers of podiaphobia!)




Brilliant as usual ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: theSmoiler on January 03, 2010, 11:13:30 PM
Here is my rendition of Ashokan Farewell. Compared with GbH's, it is rather tame. My usual video nerves (or is it musical incompetence?  :() can be detected at one or two points.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqTcGPbMLbA

I really need to develop a more imaginative bass line. I may post a second video later in the month if I manage to improve the bass line.

Nice one, Bob! -  (and with frozen fingers, too!

I have given this a bit of a go on the Oakwood, as it has low notes rather than accidentals, and looking at your video, one of your fingerings may give a cross-rowing solution - depending on how I feel the basses  'sit' - to one of the 'running out of air' problems I had on one of the long runs, given the small size of the box cf. it's air-hungry basses. The tune itself seems to be basically composed of a series of runs up and down scales (to my non-technical ear).

Diane
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 04, 2010, 10:15:11 PM
I'm jumping in early on this tune as I have been playing it for a while anyway. I did have a bit of brushing up to do though, and I still cannot smoothly work the switch for the low reeds on my box in mid song. Oh well... :|bl.

                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

   Also, please pardon my 'melodeon face'   :P
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Alison Scott on January 04, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
I'm jumping in early on this tune as I have been playing it for a while anyway. I did have a bit of brushing up to do though, and I still cannot smoothly work the switch for the low reeds on my box in mid song. Oh well... :|bl.

                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

   Also, please pardon my 'melodeon face'   :P


This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 05, 2010, 07:29:19 PM
I've just got an email from Jay giving his permission for us to use his tune. He asks that we include the following wording on our postings on youtube or wherever:

ASHOKAN FAREWELL by Jay Ungar
Used by permission. All rights reserved.


Many thanks to Jay for his kind permission, and I'm looking forward to seeing the many versions to come (I'm still working on mine!)

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellie on January 06, 2010, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: j.w.forrest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

I really like your version - you've inspired me to actually try learning it today (gotta make use of snow days somehow!) - I've only had the music lying around for about 3 weeks  ::) Thankyou  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: jb on January 06, 2010, 11:54:14 PM
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

Thanks for that. Great sound from that box, and a lovely tempo/rhythm/feel.
And I believe only our second TOTM offering to have been recorded on the naughty step (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.msg34261.html#msg34261).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 07, 2010, 02:39:08 AM
                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

......................And I believe only our second TOTM offering to have been recorded on the naughty step (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.msg34261.html#msg34261).


My apologies in advance, but what is the meaning here?....... :-\
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 07, 2010, 07:10:41 AM
My apologies in advance, but what is the meaning here?....... :-\
It's an English/UK thing, although it might be in use in the US too - I'm not sure. It is a reference to a parent or teacher method of imposing a mild punishment or sanction on a child who is guilty of some misdemeanour. The child is sent to sit on their own at the bottom of the stairs on the 'naughty step' and instructed to stay put for a period of time, which might also mean that they miss out on a favourite activity such as watching a television programme.

In my day we gorra clip round t' lugoil.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 07, 2010, 10:31:26 AM
I didn't vote for this one either, I didn't even vote for my own suggestion as i thought a bit a tactical voting might save me from AF ;D
However that said I've picked up the basic tune surprisingly quickly. I'm usually a late poster as I need the whole mouth to learn the tune but this month I'm going for a "Byrson" before and after video.
So here's the before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZu-gvwxPbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZu-gvwxPbs)
hope it won't put anyone off the tune (it's not Mr Unger fault that it sounds like this when I play it) I hope to improve by the end of the month and produce something a little better.
I went for the Steierische this time as the fingering seams slightly more fluid (not so bouncy) but the bass is a bit over powering :(
So I'll try to tone it down a bit.

constructive criticism welcome

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 07, 2010, 10:44:06 AM
Quote
I'm jumping in early on this tune as I have been playing it for a while anyway. I did have a bit of brushing up to do though, and I still cannot smoothly work the switch for the low reeds on my box in mid song. Oh well... blush.

                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyBYwUaY3DU

Thanks for this. It has the right feel to it.
An inspiration, I'll now go and relearn this and work on my bass line  :'(

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Susi on January 07, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
This is a lovely tune, although I'd prefer playing it on the fiddle. Now my life is deeply changed though, at least for a few months. I fell on the Skavsta airport parking place, just returned from a week in Ireland, and broke the scaphoid bone of my right hand. I haven't lost hope of being able to play the squeezebox but until next week when I get a new plaster I'll stay with tin whistle and singing.

Anyway, J.W - your rendition is absolutely beautiful!!!! I loved it! Bob, yours was nice too - what's the tuning of your 3 row box?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bill Young on January 07, 2010, 05:13:52 PM
I don't recall seeing any score posted for this TOTM with chords. In case anyone is looking for some bass chord suggestions, here's the arrangement used by one of the groups I play with. It also has a couple of harmony parts, usually shared by the fiddlers. I just play the top part and chords, twice through. The harmony parts sound good on the second time through; I'm happy to leave the run up near the end of the third part to my daughter on fiddle.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 07, 2010, 05:24:11 PM
I fell on the Skavsta airport parking place, just returned from a week in Ireland, and broke the scaphoid bone of my right hand. I haven't lost hope of being able to play the squeezebox but until next week when I get a new plaster I'll stay with tin whistle and singing.

  Hope you recover quickly! Best Wishes!  :||: :-* :'( :-* :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GbH on January 07, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
<snip/>
This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bill the Farmer on January 07, 2010, 06:18:17 PM
<snip/>
This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lament).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: labradornl on January 07, 2010, 07:33:41 PM
Here's my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I'm so glad this tune was chosen as it's such a beautiful one.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 07, 2010, 07:45:22 PM
Here's my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I'm so glad this tune was chosen as it's such a beautiful one.


Is it invisible?   ::)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Theo on January 07, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lament).
[/quote]

There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GbH on January 07, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lament).

There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
[/quote]

Thanks....but what are the specific musical attributes that make it feel and sound like a lament rather than something else?  Or isn't it defined like that.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: labradornl on January 07, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
Once again, here is my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I believe this time I will add the link:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySZFLqM4Ys
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 07, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
Nice to see some more Ashokan Farewell versions being uploaded now - here's mine. It's not a tune I know terribly well; I can busk it at sessions, and that's about it, so please forgive any rough edges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q

Played in the Vivant style, in G on a D/G Castagnari Mory with lots of G drones (unisonoric basses again). Oh, and the time signature's changed, I've just noticed. It's now in 4/4, rather than the 3/4 it's normally played in. Not quite sure how that happened!  ::)

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Gandy on January 08, 2010, 08:47:42 AM
I don't recall seeing any score posted for this TOTM with chords.
Thanks, I don't find it easy to work out chords for myself.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 08, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
I do have a cunning plan on how to solve the missing notes problem (no I'm not telling) but just finding it really hard to get the tune in my head...or else whatever I play sounds a bit like morse code rather than a tune. :(

edit: plan B
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Brimley on January 08, 2010, 10:32:38 AM
Clive, your knack of adding 1 extra beat per bar to tunes is very clever! 

Can we look forward to, say, Irish Washerwoman in 7/8?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 08, 2010, 10:33:46 AM
Clive, your knack of adding 1 extra beat per bar to tunes is very clever! 

Can we look forward to, say, Irish Washerwoman in 7/8?

This time it wasn't deliberate! I only noticed after I'd uploaded it! I think I might need help... :'(
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Brimley on January 08, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
Quote
I think I might need help...

Or encouragement, maybe?  I'm afraid my brain cells won't let my fingers work like that!

If you want another challenge, how about Sir Roger de Coverley in 10/8?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 08, 2010, 11:04:08 AM
If you want another challenge, how about Sir Roger de Coverley in 10/8?

My GIGCB co-conspirator, Alan Day, came up with an arrangement of Andy Cutting's Spaghetti Panic, normally in 7/8 (mostly), and turned it into 6/8 - i.e. as a straight jig. It's fantastic - one of the best jigs I've ever heard.

I love seeing tunes rewritten in unexpected ways like this...

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: waltzman on January 08, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
<snip/>
This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?
I believe this tune was written to be a lament.  Mr Unger organized a music camp in New York quite a few years ago (it is still going on each summer and is very popular).  This tune was written in the early years of that camp.  The inspiration was his feeling of sadness at the end of a week of wonderful sharing of music and dance.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 08, 2010, 01:28:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q
Very nice, Clive. I think I prefer it 4/4 now I've heard it your way.
And as always plenty else to look out for in your vid, including the eyebrows thing at 2:47 and the array of infuriatingly unidentifiable objects lying around in the background.

JB, I love your observations. I was very impressed with the presidents chair too. 8)

Clive, thank you, this has inspired me because I am having trouble playing this tune in an oom pa style without it sounding a bit yee ha !!
I know it's a beautiful tune either way but I prefer your style and it has given me something to think about, thank you.

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Graham Collicutt on January 08, 2010, 03:07:40 PM
Well I'm just back from hospital after an overnight stay with left wrist wired together. Anyone need a melodeon loan for a few weeks.

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12058

after 10 minutes practice, I'll see if I can learn to bend the C natural by the end of the month.

Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Theo on January 08, 2010, 05:44:47 PM
I love seeing tunes rewritten in unexpected ways like this...

or in this case unexpectedly rewritten?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GbH on January 08, 2010, 06:49:36 PM
Nice to see some more Ashokan Farewell versions being uploaded now - here's mine. It's not a tune I know terribly well; I can busk it at sessions, and that's about it, so please forgive any rough edges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q

Played in the Vivant style, in G on a D/G Castagnari Mory with lots of G drones (unisonoric basses again). Oh, and the time signature's changed, I've just noticed. It's now in 4/4, rather than the 3/4 it's normally played in. Not quite sure how that happened!  ::)

Cheers,

Clive


I'm not so sure what I think about the time change for this particular tune - but really love the sound you're achieving, particularly in the 'B' part.  There's definately a few 'ooooh' moments in there!

The unisonic bases also seem to work nicely for this one.  As such, it'll be interesting to hear what any B/C/C# (or PA  >:E) players do with this, too. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 08, 2010, 11:08:24 PM
I know it's a beautiful tune either way but I prefer your style and it has given me something to think about, thank you.

You're welcome! One thought for the day for 12 bass box owners - if you happen to have a F bass chord/treble note in the same direction (on a D/G box that is, Eb on a C/F, Bb on a G/C etc), try playing it in G rather than D. For me, it sits a lot more naturally than trying to play it in D - you're not fighting against working at the extremes of the keyboard.

Good luck all!

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 09, 2010, 11:43:38 AM
I posted this elsewhere but it seems timely to put it in this thread, AF in G.

X:1
T:Ashokan Farewell
C:Jay Ungar
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
(d<f) | g3 f e/2d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | b3 c' b2 | a4 d<f |
g3 f e<d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | d2 f2 a2 | g4 B<c |
d3 B G2 | g4 d2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B2 B<A |
B3 A G2 | E4 G2 | D6 | d4 BG |
G2 B2 d2 | =f4 f2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B3 G |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 B2 A3 D F2 | G6 ||
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: DaveD on January 09, 2010, 10:07:40 PM
Quote
I posted this elsewhere but it seems timely to put it in this thread, AF in G.

yes, I've been pacticing this in G, as a first attempt seems easier to get all the notes, basses still unsure on a 2 row D/G, any thoughts.

Dave
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ollie on January 09, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
When you get to the F natural, keep playing a G chord in the bass as this creates a G7 chord which has a similar tention to an F chord.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: nemethmik on January 09, 2010, 11:09:20 PM
There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
Thanks....
Here is a lament (inspired by GbH's performance) played on a Border Pipe set in A
http://members.chello.hu/nemethmik/AshokanFarewell-Miki-BorderPipes-20100109OK2.mp3
Maybe a bit fast for a lament.
Miki
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ollie on January 09, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
Wow, fantastic performance Miki, those pipes sound wonderful; such a sweet and mellow sound.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 10, 2010, 12:07:35 AM
Very fine setting of this tune.... it lost nothing in the translation to pipes. Thanks.... ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 10, 2010, 09:23:18 AM
Just lovely on the pipes - I was delighted when my Media Player autorepeated it :D.  It made me wonder if AF is intrinsically a solo voice melody?   I'd personally call this version 'Lament' speed - but each to his own.  There's perhaps a melodeonic lesson wrt how little a tune gets perturbed - when squashed into a single octave. So those without low note buttons can just brass it out!  ;)

When you get to the F natural, keep playing a G chord in the bass as this creates a G7 chord which has a similar tention to an F chord.

100% of the tension in dominant 7 chords comes from the 3-tone interval between 3rd and 7th elements. In this case B and F.  So if your right hand F is a push - you could 'create' G7 chord by sounding B push base. Of course voicing matters - they don't 'ring' if more than a octave apart. Experiment with any chord containing 'B', or even pop in a right hand B ... though carrying that G through is very much in the tune's spirit.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: nemethmik on January 10, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
A family project for Sunday morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adD-IqJxSpE
 ;)
Miki
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 10, 2010, 11:15:57 AM
Ha ha, magic bellows control!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ollie on January 10, 2010, 09:43:35 PM
Actually, that is my favourite so far - exactly how I think this tune should be played and what I'm trying to achieve with my own version. Well done jb!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: theSmoiler on January 10, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Nice one, jb! your (anti-) sentiments (which I tend to agree on) don't come over in your playing. I like the way you've managed to 'infill' in the long, drawn out notes , and you've given it a sort of Scottish feel. I can't see it properly, but am presuming you are able to cross over to the 'pull' on the inside row in order to not run out of air on those runs up of 2 x 3 long notes? Although I've more or less worked out where I want to go for basses on the 2-row, I can't seem to get a bellows reversal here with any sort of satisfactory chords, so I've always got a bit of a 'stop' and a gasp for air in the midst of what should be a lyrical phrase.

I too may have to revert to a 3-row to do this one...(but it's a row of accidentals...so will still play AF like on a 2-row) simply because it's the only box I've got where I can remove the 3rds from the chords. Without being able to tap the chords at least through most of the tune, it's even more difficult to give it any rhythmic quality.

Diane
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 11, 2010, 10:32:57 AM
Now don't get me wrong AF is a beautiful tune ... but its always  going to be dull when not played in context with the mood it generates , secondly its usually in D where basic Hohners run out of low notes (with accidentals)... soooooooo!  I don't want to spend much learning time on it, i might never play it again ! and i want to give it my usual car crash treatment and do it a bit different... so here we go ... 1 take ... cock ups and all!  ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG >:E
Derek :||: :||: :||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSv6eR8_8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSv6eR8_8M)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 11, 2010, 10:46:08 AM
Brave move Derek, well played, and with your usual panache.

Anyone still hold that the speed of a tune isn't important?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Fidjit on January 11, 2010, 11:00:58 AM
Yes as Derek say bit of a dirge as a lament. Nice waltz though. Here's my offering. Right or wrong. :|bl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqOrJUUheA

Cheers :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Gandy on January 11, 2010, 04:18:47 PM
ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG
I can't view this just now, but a quick question ... does your Morgane have accidentals?   The one I looked at (nice box) had low notes.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 11, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG
I can't view this just now, but a quick question ... does your Morgane have accidentals?   The one I looked at (nice box) had low notes.


2 Accidentals at the bottom ... no extra low notes!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Fidjit on January 11, 2010, 09:47:41 PM
Actually FA when played as a waltz reminds me of "Michael Turner's Waltz".

Couldn't find a melodeon so this will have to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mazu6AUs8XI


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 12, 2010, 08:57:41 AM
Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 12, 2010, 09:25:08 AM
Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225

Can do attitude please!  :D
See you're avoiding making a proper comment coz you think its rubbish. ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: strad on January 12, 2010, 11:20:27 AM
LDT - The tune is recognisable and just needs some more practice. If you take the attitude that you are playing as well as you can at the time, then no-one has the right to make derogatory comments, most of all you! At least you're doing it and not being a couch potato. AF is not an easy tune to play well.

Regards
Nigel
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 12, 2010, 11:34:01 AM
That's not the case. Comment was respect to prefixing "tune murdered" and "told you I'm rubbish"  You are doing fine, and this is a very supportive forum. I believe such abject negativity doesn't help anyone.  Better surely to listen to advice given and use it. eg are you cross fingering against pull or push chords?  I think the tune goes all the smoother for that.

Yet another attempt at helping messed up. I'm complete rubbish at this.  :-\
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 12, 2010, 11:34:33 AM
J.W - your rendition is absolutely beautiful!!!! I loved it! Bob, yours was nice too - what's the tuning of your 3 row box?

Hi Susi. It is a two-voice, swing-tuned,  D/G box with a full row of accidentals. The layout of the accidentals is one I devised myself (with a bit of help from Rees) to incorporate reversals as well as accidentals. If you are interested in the layout, there is a diagram of it in the Keyboard Layouts section of this site. Go into Three Row Layouts and click on D/G/Accidentals - a 12 bass layout.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Skipy on January 12, 2010, 12:01:13 PM

.... Yet another attempt at helping messed up. I'm complete rubbish at this.  :-\

Eeeeeh, it is Sooooo Eeeeasy to put your foot in it on here, without even the faintest idea that you have!

LDT, it's not an easy tune to play smoothly, you sometimes feel like you need seven fingers on your right hand to get up and down the keyboard ;) I feel it's just as hard playing a tunes like this, getting the harmonics and dynamics sounding just right, than playing a faster tune, where, if you miss or hit a bum note, it doesn't really show!

Keep it up and if you start feeling frustrated with a tune that you simply can't seem to get right, leave it for a while and play one of your favourite 'Sunday Bests' to re boost you confidence!

Works for me  (:)

Skipy



 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 12, 2010, 12:12:35 PM
Sarah, I think this is the most difficult tune I have heard you play, so you have done well. Don't be surprised that you are finding it difficult - it isn't a tune that comes easily to any but the most gifted musicians. It is taking you out of your comfort zone and makes demands of you that other tunes don't. Try to rise to the challenge because your playing will improve by doing so. Where you have left out the low notes that I assume you have not got on your box, try to find alternatives that sound good to your ear. It doesn't matter if they alter the tune a bit (that's what improvisation is all about!), but inserting replacements for the missing notes will help you to develop the smoothness that is essential for conveying the emotion of the tune.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 12, 2010, 12:56:40 PM
Sarah, I think this is the most difficult tune I have heard you play, so you have done well. Don't be surprised that you are finding it difficult - it isn't a tune that comes easily to any but the most gifted musicians.
Don't know how such a difficult tune won...some people must love pain. ;)

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It is taking you out of your comfort zone and makes demands of you that other tunes don't. Try to rise to the challenge because your playing will improve by doing so. Where you have left out the low notes that I assume you have not got on your box, try to find alternatives that sound good to your ear. It doesn't matter if they alter the tune a bit (that's what improvisation is all about!), but inserting replacements for the missing notes will help you to develop the smoothness that is essential for conveying the emotion of the tune.
I....I can't play something that's not actually written down, I have no musical jugement. It'll sound great to me and horrible to everyone else. :(

LDT, it's not an easy tune to play smoothly, you sometimes feel like you need seven fingers on your right hand to get up and down the keyboard ;)
Forget extra fingers I tie the ones I've got already in knots, I just need longer fingers.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: waltzman on January 12, 2010, 01:36:23 PM
I....I can't play something that's not actually written down, I have no musical jugement. It'll sound great to me and horrible to everyone else. :(
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Yes you can.  This is where the design of the melodeon really helps you out.  There are very few 'wrong' notes.  Just push another button nearby until you like what you hear and trust your judgement.  So what if someone else doesn't like it?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 12, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225
Sarah - stop being so hard on yourself. This is a good start and if I know you, you will work and work at it and will improve no end.
The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.
You do in fact have this note on the LH side. It is on the inside row of buttons (nearest the bellows) and 2nd one down from the top as you hold the instrument, on the push. So when this note comes up in the tune, instead of leaving a gap in the music, just play it on the LH side instead.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: DaveD on January 12, 2010, 07:26:54 PM
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The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.

thanks Steve for explaining how to get the low B, can the low C natural be obtained on the left hand

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 12, 2010, 07:53:38 PM
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The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.

thanks Steve for explaining how to get the low B, can the low C natural be obtained on the left hand



Depends on what box you are playing, look here for keyboard layouts (http://info.melodeon.net/info/layouts)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 12, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
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The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.

thanks Steve for explaining how to get the low B, can the low C natural be obtained on the left hand
Yes - on a standard D/G melodeon, you can play the low C natural on the LH side: innermost row, button nearest the floor when holding the instrument, push or pull (plays C both ways).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: theSmoiler on January 12, 2010, 11:03:26 PM
Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225

This is not rubbish, Sarah - I can barely hear a fluffed or wrong note in there! Certainly, extremely recognisable as AF, with almost the correct timing...you just need to lengthen the notes on the runs up and down, a bit, stressing/ lengthening the first note of each group of 3 a bit more than the other 2 notes. Playing more with other people, as has been said before, will help you to get fully into the total feel of tunes, re. timing and phrasing.

Diane 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Fidjit on January 13, 2010, 09:41:31 AM
But, but, but.

On a D/G there's a C on the G row 4th or 5th (depends if you count the unusable accidentals at the top or not) from the top. on a pull.
In full usage on my effort :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 13, 2010, 10:43:49 AM

The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.
You do in fact have this note on the LH side. It is on the inside row of buttons (nearest the bellows) and 2nd one down from the top as you hold the instrument, on the push. So when this note comes up in the tune, instead of leaving a gap in the music, just play it on the LH side instead.
isn't that gonna sound a bit odd and out of place?

Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225

This is not rubbish, Sarah - I can barely hear a fluffed or wrong note in there! Certainly, extremely recognisable as AF, with almost the correct timing...you just need to lengthen the notes on the runs up and down, a bit, stressing/ lengthening the first note of each group of 3 a bit more than the other 2 notes. Playing more with other people, as has been said before, will help you to get fully into the total feel of tunes, re. timing and phrasing.

Diane 
I cringe every time. I can hear every wrong note, every hesitation when I've got lost and every time I hit a 7 instead of and 8 or a 3 instead of a 6 because I've zoomed out the page so much so I can see in all in one go on the screen without having to stop and scroll down.
I've also got no left hand so it sounds bare and boring.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 13, 2010, 12:14:39 PM

The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.
You do in fact have this note on the LH side. It is on the inside row of buttons (nearest the bellows) and 2nd one down from the top as you hold the instrument, on the push. So when this note comes up in the tune, instead of leaving a gap in the music, just play it on the LH side instead.
isn't that gonna sound a bit odd and out of place?
You might think so, but it will sound OK to a listener. And much better than a hole in the music.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Rees on January 13, 2010, 01:48:30 PM
(depends if you count the unusable accidentals at the top or not)

Well said, Chas.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Susi on January 13, 2010, 02:49:56 PM

Hi Susi. It is a two-voice, swing-tuned,  D/G box with a full row of accidentals. The layout of the accidentals is one I devised myself (with a bit of help from Rees) to incorporate reversals as well as accidentals. If you are interested in the layout, there is a diagram of it in the Keyboard Layouts section of this site. Go into Three Row Layouts and click on D/G/Accidentals - a 12 bass layout.

Cool! I'm quite happy with only a concertina if I have to deal with accidentals, though:) But it's always fun to hear about other tunings...

Graham, don't tell me you injured your wrist too??!! Your injury sounds worse than mine. I didn't need any surgery, and it turned out it wasn't a scaphoid fracture but just a lesion on the radius bone, so now I'll have the cast three weeks instead of eight, and I can play as much melodeon as I can and want to! It's party time!!! :|||: :|||: :|||: :|||: 8) :|glug

I don't think I'll manage to learn Ashokan farewell though......not on the melodeon. I could play it fairly on the fiddle before the wrist injury.
Sarah, I'm quite relieved to see that I'm not the only one being hard on myself, but the difference is that you are brave enough to record and show it off even if you don't think you're good, which I rarely do. Well done and keep playing.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 14, 2010, 09:02:10 AM

The 'missing' note which you don't have on your Tommy (or Sara) RH buttons is a low B.
You do in fact have this note on the LH side. It is on the inside row of buttons (nearest the bellows) and 2nd one down from the top as you hold the instrument, on the push. So when this note comes up in the tune, instead of leaving a gap in the music, just play it on the LH side instead.
isn't that gonna sound a bit odd and out of place?
You might think so, but it will sound OK to a listener. And much better than a hole in the music.

I tried your suggestion but it sounds really out of place  :'(
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12294
I just don't have the skills to make it sound nice.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 14, 2010, 09:27:42 AM
I tried your suggestion but it sounds really out of place  :'(
I just don't have the skills to make it sound nice.

Sorry can't hear your video - I'm in London in a library  :-X But I'm with Steve on this. On 2 rows - I'd quite often steal a note from the left end. The trick is to just tap the button. Think of it as a stepping stone across that hole rather than a bridge - very brief.

Positive attitude please.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 14, 2010, 10:16:33 AM
I tried your suggestion but it sounds really out of place  :'(
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12294
That's really coming along nicely. The LH low B is exactly in the right place and the right duration. It doesn't sound 'really out of place', but what you are hearing is the richer sound of the low B bass, because it has an extra low reed in the mix, and this is contrasting with the lighter sound of the two-voice  RH notes. There are two ways to make the contrast less noticeable; use either or both together:
1. Use your RH stop to bring in the third (low) voice. Then the RH sound will be the same 'quality' as your LH notes and the contrast of those low Bs will be reduced. You will find this uses more air, so you will have to be more rigorous in your bellows/air management.
2. Once you are more comfortable with the melody, start introducing some LH chords. Again this will have the effect of reducing that contrast mentioned above.

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I just don't have the skills to make it sound nice.
Yes you do, and you are. Just get on with it.

Whenever you feel you can't do something, or it sounds bad, or whatever - instead of saying things like 'I can't do this' or 'I'm rubbish' or 'I'm murdering the tune', which are negative ways of looking at things, turn it round for yourself (and us) by asking questions of yourself (and us): 'How do I do this?'; 'how can I improve this?'; 'how can I make this tune sound better?' Get the idea?
Then - in case you need any further convincing, go back and listen to those recordings you made 10 months or so ago and I defy you to tell me (and us) that you haven't improved in the meantime.

No more negative attitudes on here, OK?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Susi on January 14, 2010, 11:28:08 AM
I think that sounds pretty good, Sarah!!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Keithypete. on January 14, 2010, 11:35:25 AM
I tried your suggestion but it sounds really out of place  :'(
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12294
I just don't have the skills to make it sound nice.


I don't think you have much to worry about LDT. Skills seem to be developing nicely. ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 14, 2010, 11:36:16 AM
Whenever you feel you can't do something, or it sounds bad, or whatever - instead of saying things like 'I can't do this' or 'I'm rubbish' or 'I'm murdering the tune', which are negative ways of looking at things, turn it round for yourself (and us) by asking questions of yourself (and us): 'How do I do this?'; 'how can I improve this?'; 'how can I make this tune sound better?' Get the idea?
<snip>
No more negative attitudes on here, OK?
Ok then positive question....
How can I get the right note and not run out of air? As I seem to have to make the choice of one or the other.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 14, 2010, 11:49:05 AM
Whenever you feel you can't do something, or it sounds bad, or whatever - instead of saying things like 'I can't do this' or 'I'm rubbish' or 'I'm murdering the tune', which are negative ways of looking at things, turn it round for yourself (and us) by asking questions of yourself (and us): 'How do I do this?'; 'how can I improve this?'; 'how can I make this tune sound better?' Get the idea?
<snip>
No more negative attitudes on here, OK?
Ok then positive question....
How can I get the right note and not run out of air? As I seem to have to make the choice of one or the other.
First you need to identify why you are running out of air, and whether it is occurring at more or less the same place each time.
If you are running out because the bellows are getting totally closed on the push, then you need to find a place a bit earlier where you can use the air button on the pull to give yourself a little 'breath' of extra bellows space; or else start off with more extended bellows to begin with. Or, if you find you are running out of air because the bellows are getting too extended, you need to take the opposite approach - look for opportunities to use the air button to give yourself an extra push breathing space.

The other thing you can do is to try to identify notes which have an alternative bellows direction. E.g. the notes G and B can be played on the push on the G-row, but also on the pull on the D-row. Similarly F# and A are pull notes on the G-row and push notes on the D-row. So if you are running out of air by sticking to one row, try looking for opportunities to cross to the other row to get the note in the opposite direction, which will give you more bellows room.

This is what is meant by air or bellows management. It is especially important on an instrument like the Tommy where you don't have large bellows capacity in the first place.

You know enough about the instrument by now to start experimenting like this for yourself.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 14, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
I tried your suggestion but it sounds really out of place  :'(
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12294
I just don't have the skills to make it sound nice.

It doesn't sound that out of place. However, it will sound less so when you are able to add some bass accompaniment. Then the low B bass notes will blend in with the other basses you are playing elsewhere in the tune.  
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 14, 2010, 03:25:36 PM
I decided to give Sarah some basses ... so heres her tune with some basses using a Saltarelle Connemara III to get the D chording basses!

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301)

DTN
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: tiny on January 14, 2010, 03:49:48 PM
whooo that is clever adding basses to anothers recording, sounds good as well.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 14, 2010, 04:19:52 PM
I decided to give Sarah some basses ... so heres her tune with some basses using a Saltarelle Connemara III to get the D chording basses!

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301)

DTN
ooh thank you. That's cleverer than a clever thing with a degree from clever university. :)
now I just need to cover over that gap of mine where I ran out of air.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 14, 2010, 11:59:21 PM
I decided to give Sarah some basses ... so heres her tune with some basses using a Saltarelle Connemara III to get the D chording basses!

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301)

DTN

Beautiful! I love this forum  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 15, 2010, 09:03:04 AM
I decided to give Sarah some basses ... so heres her tune with some basses using a Saltarelle Connemara III to get the D chording basses!

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12301)

DTN
I made my little additions.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12335
:)


That's really coming along nicely. The LH low B is exactly in the right place and the right duration. It doesn't sound 'really out of place', but what you are hearing is the richer sound of the low B bass, because it has an extra low reed in the mix, and this is contrasting with the lighter sound of the two-voice  RH notes. There are two ways to make the contrast less noticeable; use either or both together:
1. Use your RH stop to bring in the third (low) voice. Then the RH sound will be the same 'quality' as your LH notes and the contrast of those low Bs will be reduced. You will find this uses more air, so you will have to be more rigorous in your bellows/air management.
I just tried that
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12334
wot do you think?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 15, 2010, 09:26:42 PM
Probably the only rendition of AF on a 1 row 4 stop. The accidental note taxed me a bit but finally found away around it, not sure you will be able to detect the slight subterfuge undertaken on my part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 15, 2010, 10:21:35 PM
The accidental note taxed me a bit but finally found away around it, not sure you will be able to detect the slight subterfuge undertaken on my part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg)



Excellent! ... that was so funny, i laughed at your brilliant subterfuge so much that the wife told me to shut up! ... I love it! ....thanks!
Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 15, 2010, 10:38:41 PM
Was there a subliminal message in there somewhere? I sure I saw red and my whole concept of the tune changed dramatically.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 15, 2010, 10:43:05 PM
Probably the only rendition of AF on a 1 row 4 stop. The accidental note taxed me a bit but finally found away around it, not sure you will be able to detect the slight subterfuge undertaken on my part.

ROFL ;D Still recall watching Norbert Pignol on stage watching swapping accordeons ... to then launch into the Blues stretch in Alambic.  Nothing at all wrong with a few little cheats. Isn't that what melodeonism is about?

Bravo Lester. Encore  Will Gavin yet give us the whole thing on a one row?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: uofdoboe on January 16, 2010, 01:35:53 AM
Here's my take on the tune for the month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABzNJXjCec

Criticism & advice warmly received!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 16, 2010, 11:02:07 AM
Here's my take on the tune for the month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABzNJXjCec

Criticism & advice warmly received!

I honestly can't criticise it or give advise as its just played beautifully!.... makes me miss having the low notes on my DG Morgane though!
So next TOTM must have loads of accidentals!! 8)
Well played, and nice and moody too!
 Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Alison Scott on January 16, 2010, 01:38:14 PM
Probably the only rendition of AF on a 1 row 4 stop. The accidental note taxed me a bit but finally found away around it, not sure you will be able to detect the slight subterfuge undertaken on my part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NutO2HJyg)



Laughed and laughed. It was absolutely undetectable except with professional tools.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Alison Scott on January 16, 2010, 01:49:38 PM
OK, I have put up my first (and probably only) attempt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNs0UEeImVk . I am not sure that this tune repays the amount of effort I've put into it this month, though I am sure that I have learnt things from it. Mostly that my playing overloads the MacBook's mic, so I need to record the audio separately next time.

I am now in awe of those of you who've made this tune sound smooth and sweet on D/G boxes.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 16, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
OK, I have put up my first (and probably only) attempt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNs0UEeImVk . I am not sure that this tune repays the amount of effort I've put into it this month, though I am sure that I have learnt things from it. Mostly that my playing overloads the MacBook's mic, so I need to record the audio separately next time.

I am now in awe of those of you who've made this tune sound smooth and sweet on D/G boxes.

Wow! ... that was really good! ... I can hear the hard work you've put in! .... although bet you wish you'd not played that cross row note after the lovely chording @ 1:56 in!
Thanks
Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Hectorawol on January 17, 2010, 05:41:15 AM
I love this tune. I am very pleased that it is January's tune of the month!
Here is my version:

Thank you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saud2SW6J8I
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 17, 2010, 05:57:09 AM
uofdoboe, Allison and Hector - three different versions of the tune, all interesting and very enjoyable. Thank you!
As for Lester's, what can I say! Absolutely my favourite so far  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Alison Scott on January 17, 2010, 08:52:36 AM

Wow! ... that was really good! ... I can hear the hard work you've put in! .... although bet you wish you'd not played that cross row note after the lovely chording @ 1:56 in!
Thanks
Derek


Ha, yes. All the other takes were worse, honestly, and I was getting fed up. If I'd recorded the audio separately I would have just sliced that note out in an audio editor, but because I did the whole thing in iMovie it would have been an almighty faff. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 17, 2010, 07:36:39 PM
OK, I have put up my first (and probably only) attempt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNs0UEeImVk . I am not sure that this tune repays the amount of effort I've put into it this month, though I am sure that I have learnt things from it. Mostly that my playing overloads the MacBook's mic, so I need to record the audio separately next time.

I am now in awe of those of you who've made this tune sound smooth and sweet on D/G boxes.

   Very nice Alison....you have done the heavy lifting already by finding all those notes and bellows directions, now all that remains is to smooth it out, which (in my own case) is easily accomplished by playing it 10,000 times or so. Plus you will have the reward of giving people enjoyment from hearing it. I think the effort was worth it!! Thanks... ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 17, 2010, 07:40:26 PM
Here's my take on the tune for the month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YABzNJXjCec

Criticism & advice warmly received!

A pleasure to hear...very smooth and placid. Thanks.... uofdoboe
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 19, 2010, 09:07:14 AM
another one
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12600
this time with another instrument added
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: graememackay on January 19, 2010, 10:22:13 AM
Hey guys.  All versions sound great!  Gettin the odd giggle in too!

Anyone seen my webcam?  ???
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ruaraidh on January 19, 2010, 07:01:47 PM
Well, this is the first tune I have learnt from scratch since I got the box a month ago (the others being tunes I already knew on the pipes). It's just as well I did not know it before as it took about a million attempts to record it, and I am definitely not at the stage where I could add basses. Hopefully as the months go by, it will take less effort to learn the TOTM, or we might have a family rebellion!  :-[ http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612)

Ruaraidh
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: nemethmik on January 19, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
the others being tunes I already knew on the pipes
You mean: all the other three tunes of the month? I'd love to hear and learn them on pipes, too.
Could you send me a sound file?
Thank You,
Miki
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ruaraidh on January 19, 2010, 09:00:45 PM
the others being tunes I already knew on the pipes
You mean: all the other three tunes of the month? I'd love to hear and learn them on pipes, too.
Could you send me a sound file?
Thank You,
Miki

No, I meant the other tunes that I have learned so far on the box have all been pipe tunes, but I have not started on the other TOTMs yet, as it only arrived on the 19th December.

Ruaraidh
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 20, 2010, 12:51:55 AM
Well, this is the first tune I have learnt from scratch since I got the box a month ago (the others being tunes I already knew on the pipes).... http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612)
Nice playing, and not to worry about the LH yet; this is not a tune which readily lends itself to basses/chords.

But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard. I'm sure many people like it, but definitely not my cup of tea, sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellison on January 20, 2010, 07:11:06 AM
Hi
Well you seem to be having so much fun over here I thought I'd gatecrash the party.

I think I've uploaded my first ever video to youtube. Decided to try this tune as an experiment. I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords to keep me from turning it into a lumpy English style waltz. Not sure if I've succeeded.
Sorry about picture quality - my wife's new ipod.

Martin
[edited to add my name, doh!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 20, 2010, 08:37:22 AM
Martin that was great. I'm having problems with AF as all I can do is "um pah pah" which just doesn't seem to fit.
Quote
I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords
sounds great to me could you elaborate on the chords.

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Gandy on January 20, 2010, 09:08:54 AM
But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard. I'm sure many people like it, but definitely not my cup of tea, sorry.  :-[
We like'm wet in Scotland.   Actually I have the same type of box, and mine has a switch to change between single reed and musette MMM.

By the way, Ruaraidh,  how many fingers do you find you need for the arpeggio bit (low A up to high F#), and are you playing that all on the pull?   I keep finding that if use alternative fingerings to cut down the push/pull, then I rapidly loose control of the bellows.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ruaraidh on January 20, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard. I'm sure many people like it, but definitely not my cup of tea, sorry.  :-[
We like'm wet in Scotland.   Actually I have the same type of box, and mine has a switch to change between single reed and musette MMM.

By the way, Ruaraidh,  how many fingers do you find you need for the arpeggio bit (low A up to high F#), and are you playing that all on the pull?   I keep finding that if use alternative fingerings to cut down the push/pull, then I rapidly loose control of the bellows.

It is wet  ;D  but nothing to be done about it in Botswana I'm afraid. It has the switch, but it seems a pity to have a three voice box and only use one!

I found myself using four fingers for that and managed to get the top note with my pinky. However, I would not be the person to ask really about how to finger tunes! All the notes on the C row were on the pull, with just the three on the B row pushed...

Ruaraidh
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: graememackay on January 20, 2010, 09:23:07 AM
Well, this is the first tune I have learnt from scratch since I got the box a month ago (the others being tunes I already knew on the pipes).... http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12612)
Nice playing, and not to worry about the LH yet; this is not a tune which readily lends itself to basses/chords.

But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard. I'm sure many people like it, but definitely not my cup of tea, sorry.  :-[

Good job Ruaraidh!  And the box sounds fine.  Cracking tone.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 20, 2010, 10:09:26 AM
Hi
Well you seem to be having so much fun over here I thought I'd gatecrash the party.

I think I've uploaded my first ever video to youtube. Decided to try this tune as an experiment. I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords to keep me from turning it into a lumpy English style waltz. Not sure if I've succeeded.
Sorry about picture quality - my wife's new ipod.

Martin
[edited to add my name, doh!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY)


Blimey. First time I've seen just treble chording used so effectively! I'm going to need to practice that. A lot!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 20, 2010, 11:30:09 AM
Beautiful, Martin. You got so much feeling into your rendition. The right-hand chords gave the tune a different dimension - some of them sounded quite bluesy.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Owen Woods on January 20, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
Hi
Well you seem to be having so much fun over here I thought I'd gatecrash the party.

I think I've uploaded my first ever video to youtube. Decided to try this tune as an experiment. I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords to keep me from turning it into a lumpy English style waltz. Not sure if I've succeeded.
Sorry about picture quality - my wife's new ipod.

Martin
[edited to add my name, doh!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY)

That's great Martin! ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellison on January 20, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
Martin that was great. I'm having problems with AF as all I can do is "um pah pah" which just doesn't seem to fit.
Quote
I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords
sounds great to me could you elaborate on the chords.

Louise

Hi Louise
Thanks for the comments.

Yes I wanted to avoid the um-pa-pa and play the tune with a free tempo but I see in the vid that my foot refuses to stop tapping. Old habits die hard.

Most of the chords are based on thirds, fairly easy to find on a melodeon, usually one button up or one down (that's not infallible, you'll know if they sound ok or not). Some of the harmonic phrases are achieved by holding one note whilst the melody is played above or below it, there's probably musical terms for this but I'm happy in my ignorance.

Martin
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 20, 2010, 04:16:05 PM
Hi
Well you seem to be having so much fun over here I thought I'd gatecrash the party.

I think I've uploaded my first ever video to youtube. Decided to try this tune as an experiment. I've left out the basses and stuck in a few right hand chords to keep me from turning it into a lumpy English style waltz. Not sure if I've succeeded.
Sorry about picture quality - my wife's new ipod.

Martin
[edited to add my name, doh!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veW84cSu6AY)

Wow, I really like that. I think you have brought out the whole beauty of the tune with great sensitivity and no 'corny' bits or 'lumpy custard' bits!
(sorry, I'm not very good with technical musical analysis).

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Susi on January 20, 2010, 04:19:32 PM
That was awesome!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: graememackay on January 20, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
okay chaps.  Found the webcam.  Not convinced this is my best work but it will do the job for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 20, 2010, 05:49:26 PM

Wow, I really like that. I think you have brought out the whole beauty of the tune with great sensitivity and no 'corny' bits or 'lumpy custard' bits!
(sorry, I'm not very good with technical musical analysis).

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)

   Can you give examples? I for one do not wish to be guilty of commiting  either of these perceived faults..... :P
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: nemethmik on January 20, 2010, 06:39:02 PM
But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard.
We like'm wet in Scotland.
Ruaraidh is a piper and pipers never tune their drones and chanters wet (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ruaraidh on January 20, 2010, 07:46:30 PM
okay chaps.  Found the webcam.  Not convinced this is my best work but it will do the job for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8)
Cool, and in only 27 short years, I'll be doing the same thing...

But - that must be the wettest tuned box I've ever heard.
We like'm wet in Scotland.
Ruaraidh is a piper and pipers never tune their drones and chanters wet (:)
In fact I always find it strange that wet tuning is referred to as musette tuning; I have a musette (mouth blown smallpipes) and I do my best to get them in tune and well balanced for harmonics, with no "beating" between drones and / or chanter...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: radicalaccordion on January 21, 2010, 12:08:08 AM
I can't believe my luck in finding you folks.  You are ALL super inspiring.  I just got my button box for the winter solstice.  Tomorrow will be one month and I was DETERMINED to get something up.  So here is my version of AF... lumps and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 21, 2010, 12:35:54 AM

Wow, I really like that. I think you have brought out the whole beauty of the tune with great sensitivity and no 'corny' bits or 'lumpy custard' bits!
(sorry, I'm not very good with technical musical analysis).

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)

   Can you give examples? I for one do not wish to be guilty of commiting  either of these perceived faults..... :P

There are no perceived faults and I certainly wasn't suggesting that there's a wrong way to play it. Sorry if it came across like that. :|bl

Martin had said that he was trying to avoid turning it into a lumpy style English waltz. It was my silly way of saying that I thought he achieved that in a very clever style.

Lumpy style English waltz ?   I hear it as a rigid emphasis on the first beat of the 1,2,3 rhythm which ,for me, doesn't always allow a tune like this to rise and fall or pause in the right places. Martin, perhaps you might help me out here please  ::) or do I need to dig myself out of a hole ?  :|glug

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)
p.s. where's the shovel  ???






 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 21, 2010, 04:19:31 AM

Lumpy style English waltz ?   I hear it as a rigid emphasis on the first beat of the 1,2,3 rhythm which ,for me, doesn't always allow a tune like this to rise and fall or pause in the right places. Martin, perhaps you might help me out here please  ::) or do I need to dig myself out of a hole ?  :|glug

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)
p.s. where's the shovel  ???
 

No shovel needed Sandy!  ;D I'm just teasing. But I love your choice of words....it just sent me into a self critique:...Am I playing in the  'lumpy custard' style!? Is this an English sort of thing, or is this how American tunes are viewed? Made me laugh.  It could be that us new-worlders tend to play more like hill-billies, with a drawling syncopation. Anyway, it's all fun, and please forgive me if I put you on the spot.... ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 21, 2010, 04:20:58 AM
I can't believe my luck in finding you folks.  You are ALL super inspiring.  I just got my button box for the winter solstice.  Tomorrow will be one month and I was DETERMINED to get something up.  So here is my version of AF... lumps and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k)


Pretty smooth job there...had it only for a month you say? Super!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 21, 2010, 09:39:06 AM
No shovel needed Sandy!  ;D I'm just teasing. But I love your choice of words....it just sent me into a self critique:...Am I playing in the  'lumpy custard' style!? Is this an English sort of thing, or is this how American tunes are viewed? Made me laugh.  It could be that us new-worlders tend to play more like hill-billies, with a drawling syncopation. Anyway, it's all fun, and please forgive me if I put you on the spot.... ;)

No problem at all, :Ph  it did make me think that if I put some words down then I should be able to clarify them. (I often can't  :-[)

I'm struggling with this tune. It would be easier for me to come up with something completely different, which would be fun, but I would be avoiding the real feel of the tune. Is anyone else having the same problem.  ???

Cheers

Sandy
p.s. Lumpy Custard Style is definitely English  ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 21, 2010, 09:55:50 AM
Lumpy Custard Style is definitely English  ;D

Oh! no it isn't, this is a Polish mazurka

X: 196
T:Lumpy Custard
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
D2 GF G2|D2 BA B2|cB AG FG|AG FE D2|
D2 GF G2|D2 BA B2|cB AG FA|1 A2 G2 z2:|2 A2 G2 Bc||
d2 de dc|B2 G2 AB|c2 cd cB|A4 Bc|d2 de dc|B2 G2 AB|
cB AG FA|1 A2 G2 Bc:|2 A2 G2 z2||
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: OwenG on January 21, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
This (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2078.0.html) is English Custard in a Welsh/Italian stylee, and is certainly not lumpy!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Tony M on January 22, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
Well, that was a learning experience on several levels at once!

My (probably diabolical  :|bl) take on this beautiful tune can be found here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8)

All I can claim in my defence is that I tried - this is my first melodeon, I got it in November, and I wanted to have a go at TOTM (for better or worse!).

Apart from cheating by shifting the tune into G and working out a way to play it, I also had to figure out how to do the video.  My webcam gave appalling results, so it was taken with my Canon still camera in movie mode, using the internal microphone.  I processed the file with Windows Movie Maker.  I didn't think it came out too badly (the video, rather than the tune!).

I'm not quite sure what I did with the bass - it's nothing like I originally thought, because that just didn't go with the "feel" of the tune, so I sort of made it up as I went along, then wrote it down afterwards.  Even then, I'm not sure I played precisely what I'd written.  (Did I make "Lumpy Custard"??)

The hardest bit seemed to be playing the tune once the camera was running.  This took a few goes - my coordination on the buttons went "all to pot".

Anyway, that's my first try, and constructive comment and advice would be most welcome.

Cheers,

Tony.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Steve_freereeder on January 22, 2010, 11:27:46 PM
My (probably diabolical  :|bl) take on this beautiful tune can be found here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8)
Tony, that was really nice! I am impressed that you have only been playing since November. It was at a nice steady tempo, the basses were gentle and understated, the bellows action was beautifully restrained. You most certainly did not make lumpy custard. I say very well done indeed!  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 23, 2010, 12:17:52 AM
The two new contributors, radicalaccordion and Tony M have both done a great job on newly acquired boxes with a tune that's really demanding despite the slow tempo. Well done both and a warm welcome to the forum.

Pete.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 23, 2010, 06:57:01 AM
I particularly liked Tony's threaded bass line and it was interesting to hear how well it ran on the inside row.

Radicalaccordion is doing brilliantly. Not many people would start on a 3 row 12 bass.  Thogh quite a few have later wished they had.  ;)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 23, 2010, 11:25:46 AM
okay chaps.  Found the webcam.  Not convinced this is my best work but it will do the job for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AXEo79TWx8)

Graeme I love your playing. The way you build the sound with this tune, and then slow it down again to a quiet tempo is really lovely. Thankyou (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 23, 2010, 11:28:59 AM
I can't believe my luck in finding you folks.  You are ALL super inspiring.  I just got my button box for the winter solstice.  Tomorrow will be one month and I was DETERMINED to get something up.  So here is my version of AF... lumps and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWFlEtVd-k)

Oh Beautiful! Well done you (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 23, 2010, 11:31:03 AM
My (probably diabolical  ) take on this beautiful tune can be found here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8

All I can claim in my defence is that I tried - this is my first melodeon, I got it in November, and I wanted to have a go at TOTM (for better or worse!).

Welcome Tony! You are doing brilliantly. A lovely sounding version of Ashokan Farewell.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Tony M on January 23, 2010, 07:43:01 PM
All of your kind comments are much appreciated - thank you!

Radicalaccordion is quite right - you ARE ALL super inspiring.  However, I need to practice more than I do (inspiration can't be the entire answer).  I'd like to be able to approach the fluency demonstrated in some of the TOTM recordings.

A big benefit from TOTM is being able to hear different people play the tune you're working at - and I'm amazed how many different ways there are to make a tune sound really good (which you've all done!).  The sheer variety of the performances (and this applies to all the tunes) is awesome.  I suppose it reinforces the point (expressed before, I'm sure) that the written music provides guidelines rather than a rigid definition of the tune (for traditional music, anyway).

( . . . thinks:  stop playing with the computer and pick up the melodeon!  :||:) 


Cheers,

Tony
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: radicalaccordion on January 23, 2010, 11:14:02 PM
My (probably diabolical  :|bl) take on this beautiful tune can be found here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYREiLefbG8)

All I can claim in my defence is that I tried - this is my first melodeon, I got it in November, and I wanted to have a go at TOTM (for better or worse!).

Far from diabolical! I like the way you switch up the base.

... I also had to figure out how to do the video.  My webcam gave appalling results, so it was taken with my Canon still camera in movie mode, using the internal microphone.  I processed the file with Windows Movie Maker.  I didn't think it came out too badly (the video, rather than the tune!).

The hardest bit seemed to be playing the tune once the camera was running.  This took a few goes - my coordination on the buttons went "all to pot".

I had the same issues.  Mine was also a first at making a video and I resorted to exactly the same tactic as you did.  And I agree... that darned camera has a way of really bringing on the mistakes (:).  I think I made about 50 takes before I finally decided I'd had enough!

Well done both and a warm welcome to the forum.

THANKS!

Radicalaccordion is doing brilliantly. Not many people would start on a 3 row 12 bass. 

It helps when you don't know that!

cheers,
laurie
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Rob Phillips on January 24, 2010, 11:43:50 PM
Here we are then  --  pushed to the edge of my comfort zone and just beyond .....................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvELpEorpU

It gets a bit wobbly toward the end but maybe you'll have drifted away by  then
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Graham Collicutt on January 25, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Here is my one handed effort: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7zze6HDyg

Graham

25 days to go before removal of plaster and wires.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ollie on January 25, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
That's a very nice box you've got there Graham. What model Beltuna is that?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 25, 2010, 10:15:33 PM
A very nice rendition, Graham, despite the handicap. I loved the ornamentation you added.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Graham Collicutt on January 26, 2010, 08:00:13 AM
That's a very nice box you've got there Graham. What model Beltuna is that?

It is the Alex 3; I could only play with 1 voice and keep the bellows open. It could qualify for the quiet melodeon.

Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on January 26, 2010, 09:19:18 PM
Very nice job playing single-handed!  Lovely box too. Hope your recovery is complete and rapid!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Johnjo on January 27, 2010, 03:03:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ka2NjA0Rk

Now I'm off to play it on my concertina - it sounds nicer on the 'tina. Honest!

John
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 27, 2010, 03:05:57 PM

Now I'm off to play it on my concertina - it sounds nicer on the 'tina. Honest!

Not when I play it. :P Had a go on concertina the other day kept hitting the wrong buttons by mistake.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 27, 2010, 03:58:24 PM
Not when I play it. :P Had a go on concertina the other day kept hitting the wrong buttons by mistake.

As apposed to the wrong buttons on purpose??   ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 27, 2010, 04:46:58 PM
Not when I play it. :P Had a go on concertina the other day kept hitting the wrong buttons by mistake.

As apposed to the wrong buttons on purpose??   ;D
I've done that as well. Sometimes I think those buttons move when I'm not looking. :P
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellie on January 27, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
Some fabulous versions here - I'm rather ashamed of mine!  :-[ Anyway, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMWwZYBqQyg. R hand only at the moment, as the both-handed version is still very 'lumpy custard'! Bugger all feeling in it either - I just had to get some sort of version recorded  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 27, 2010, 10:29:47 PM
Bugger all feeling in it either - I just had to get some sort of version recorded  (:)

Oh I don't know, there's some really nice phrasing in there.  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellie on January 27, 2010, 10:33:08 PM
It's just irritating when it was sounding *fine* (or, well, better at least!) before I got the camera out  ::) It's always soulless by the third or fourth take!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 28, 2010, 12:24:32 AM
Yes as Derek say bit of a dirge as a lament. Nice waltz though. Here's my offering. Right or wrong. :|bl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqOrJUUheA

Cheers :|glug

Nice change of key there Chas  (:)

 :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Fidjit on January 28, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
Yes as Derek say bit of a dirge as a lament. Nice waltz though. Here's my offering. Right or wrong. :|bl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqOrJUUheA

Cheers :|glug

Nice change of key there Chas  (:)

 :|||:

Finally ! :|bl

Someone who has listened.  Thanks Sandy.See you at M&M :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 28, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
I was going to do an after Video but have decided against it. What I play is still very um pah pah, I think the technical term already used was "lumpy custard". I had hoped to progress to something more pleasing to the ear but after lots of experimenting with drones and searching for thirds that i can't find (or if found not remembered) I've not progressed and all I tried seemed very air hungry.
The positive side of AF was that I got to use an accidental (never done before) I learnt the basic tune with Um pah pah fairly quickly so maybe I'm improving and I've spent time just messing about and experimenting  which didn't bring any instant success but I'm sure it's good for me ;D
Another good point is that I now have four TOTMs that I can play by memory :|||:  :|||:

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: ladydetemps on January 28, 2010, 12:26:44 PM
Another good point is that I now have four TOTMs that I can play by memory :|||:  :|||:
I find unfortunately that once I get the hang of one, I forget the previous one I've memorised. Seems I've got a one tune limit in my memory.  ::)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on January 28, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
I started playing all TOTMs at the end of my practise time, they don't always come to mind immediately but with perseverance!!

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 29, 2010, 12:19:44 AM
Another good point is that I now have four TOTMs that I can play by memory :|||:  :|||:
I find unfortunately that once I get the hang of one, I forget the previous one I've memorised. Seems I've got a one tune limit in my memory.  ::)

Sarah, have you considered installing a larger memory chip?   ;D >:E
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 29, 2010, 04:17:50 PM
Just in time me thinks. An experimental 'Droney' arrangement as it was Burns night this week. (I was concentrating so much on whether I was pushing or pulling that I think the timing and tune went out at times!)   Pleased to have got something together in the end   :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTF2bUzRWNo

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on January 29, 2010, 04:26:54 PM
Just in time me thinks. An experimental 'Droney' arrangement as it was Burns night this week. (I was concentrating so much on whether I was pushing or pulling that I think the timing and tune went out at times!)   Pleased to have got something together in the end   :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTF2bUzRWNo

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)

That was awesome Sandy ... what a nice way to play it! ... you are the 'Chord Queen' :||: :||:
Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 29, 2010, 04:41:08 PM
Just in time me thinks. An experimental 'Droney' arrangement as it was Burns night this week. (I was concentrating so much on whether I was pushing or pulling that I think the timing and tune went out at times!)   Pleased to have got something together in the end   :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTF2bUzRWNo

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)

That was awesome Sandy ... what a nice way to play it! ... you are the 'Chord Queen' :||: :||:
Derek

Well I've been called some things in my time but that's a first !!...thank you Derek  (:)

cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ellison on January 29, 2010, 04:54:50 PM
Just in time me thinks. An experimental 'Droney' arrangement as it was Burns night this week. (I was concentrating so much on whether I was pushing or pulling that I think the timing and tune went out at times!)   Pleased to have got something together in the end   :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTF2bUzRWNo

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)


Nice one Sandy. Understated and expressive - just up my street.
Martin
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Brimley on January 29, 2010, 05:48:53 PM
Quote
Just in time me thinks. An experimental 'Droney' arrangement as it was Burns night this week. (I was concentrating so much on whether I was pushing or pulling that I think the timing and tune went out at times!)   Pleased to have got something together in the end

You are being a little modest, maybe! - I liked this too, some nice 'suspended' chords.  I don't find it easy to get the LH transitions smooth when trying to do a drone, but this really showed how it should be done!

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Owen Woods on January 29, 2010, 08:05:48 PM
Love it Sandy ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 29, 2010, 10:38:10 PM
Really liked your treble interpretation and very different from the way I've been learning the tune. Finding this tune quite frustrating as there seem to be so many possible variations for treble and bass and for me a more conventional version is what I'll manage. But who knows, each time I play it, it seems to be different, depending on what mood I'm in.

Nice one, Sandy. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 30, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
Thank you for the kind comments. I'm really chuffed to bits.  (:)

I'm still not comfortable with this tune for whatever reason. Maybe because I think too much about it. Strange thing is that it all became much easier when I took out the first opening 'lead in' bar.  ???

cheers

Sandy
 (:)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 30, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
Know what you mean. It somehow isn't a 'think about' tune at all. Interestingly Jay Ungar said he didn't think about it either.

   I just started playing, and this tune came out, and it brought me to tears.

I've tried it in D and G, I presently I do it in C. It seems to prefer the inside row on a melodeon. Need to get something on video this weekend - but somehow a month isn't enough to feel comfortable expressing some of these tunes.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: theSmoiler on January 30, 2010, 06:47:28 PM
OK, I was determined to get a version uploaded by month end (otherwise I might never do so, and the discipline does me good) so here's my rather-bog-standard version of Ashokan Farewell, played as a waltz - mistakes and all, but I don't think I'd ever get a 'clean' version, what with manipulating the camera as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAFH0GSw_c

Box is new to me, and haven't yet got round to tightening the bass-end strap to suit me. But it'll be nice to show the previous owner that I am already getting some use out of it - and, love that Hohner sound! (jb, note - still on the 'naughty step', but moved up a notch or two to the 2nd tier, whatever that might signify! still the same acoustics in a very high Victorian stairwell). I found it a bit difficult doing the waltz without having a Bmin chord - concentrating so much of my brain on NOT hitting the maj chord button required a great deal of effort and led to other mistakes!

Diane

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GbH on January 30, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
<snip/>
 Need to get something on video this weekend - but somehow a month isn't enough to feel comfortable expressing some of these tunes.

Yes - but the rest of us are in the same position too.  Isn't it better that we just go for it and take part anyway, warts-and-all?  After all, if we didn't, the whole TOTM thing would fall on its face.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on January 31, 2010, 06:28:32 AM
OK, I was determined to get a version uploaded by month end (otherwise I might never do so, and the discipline does me good) so here's my rather-bog-standard version of Ashokan Farewell, played as a waltz - mistakes and all, but I don't think I'd ever get a 'clean' version, what with manipulating the camera as well.

Diane



This sounds good to me,  I love it as a waltz :-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Lester on January 31, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Need to get something on video this weekend - but somehow a month isn't enough to feel comfortable expressing some of these tunes.

Tick Tock Tick Tock  -  Time is passing
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Sandy on January 31, 2010, 09:55:35 AM
OK, I was determined to get a version uploaded by month end (otherwise I might never do so, and the discipline does me good) so here's my rather-bog-standard version of Ashokan Farewell, played as a waltz - mistakes and all, but I don't think I'd ever get a 'clean' version, what with manipulating the camera as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAFH0GSw_c


I really like this and thought it WAS clean and crisp. When I tried to play in this style, I ended up giving the tune a heavy 'lilt'  :(.
It struck me also that you made it look easy with little bellows movement. (I'm determined to record a TOTM on the naughty step but my stairs aren't wide enough  (:))

The discipline does me good too. Pressure was on this week and I was lucky enough to have some time to experiment and force myself to produce something with a tune I didn't know. That in itself taught me more about the box capabilities and my own limitations that I need to work on. It's important for me personally to try and come up with something each month whether it's bog standard or not. If I can't, for whatever reason, then I hope melnetters continue to do so as I gain a lot from watching all the videos. Actually. I don't think I would have come up with something this month at all without TOTM. I was really inspired by some of the entries.

Cheers

Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on January 31, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
I have been working on a new version of Ashokan Farewell with a different bass line from the um-pah-pah waltz time basses of my earlier recording. I wanted something a bit more in keeping with a lament/slow air and so I have kept away from the waltz rhythm and I have not used any bass fundamentals, constructing a bass line from the chords alone. It is still very much a work in progress, but I have just managed to squeeze it in before the end of the month.  :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu0kC2qTAwc

Now how does Orange in Bloom go?  :M
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 31, 2010, 06:12:47 PM
Eventually managed to put something together today. Found it difficult to get into AF then enjoyed it once I did. But as usual, frustrating at the end once the recording starts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-DJe1uV2U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-DJe1uV2U)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 31, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
It's been hailing here in Wirral. Several times! Brrrr. Spurred (ouch) on by Cap'n Hook/GBH I've recorded AK as I presently play it (in C for now) Late again. All my time with the box I've sat on tunes for months - I think they do mellow for that.

http://chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.wav (http://chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.wav).  Apologies for a raw .wav file - loads into quicktime chez moi. YouTube dosn't accept these it would appear. My camera produced such massive video files last time that loading up took hours.  If I can find something to convert it to MP3 I'll tidy up later.

My thanks to Ebor_fiddler who seems to have been the first to promote this lovely tune, and some inspiring music from lots of people, and of course to Lester for his masterly impersonation of Cap'n Hook's crocodile  ;)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Ollie on January 31, 2010, 07:18:34 PM
Sounds great, Chris!  (:) Is this the Parigi?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Chris Ryall on January 31, 2010, 07:33:58 PM
It wouldn't be as fluid on the Parigi. 2 rows don't have a reversed G button and i use this a lot.. The plan was to post O&B on the 2 row G/C once the ballot is returned .  I only use basic buttons for that so it's a fair demo piece.

And won't require my usual 30 days in the closet - it's a longtime favourite.

Jeez, this forum can be amazing. I've now downloaded a sound editor and mp3 codec save as per instrictions and it all worked first time!  Bit disappointed at only 27% smaller file size, but there you go..

http://www.chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.mp3 (http://www.chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.mp3)  :Ph
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on January 31, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
My effort. Apologies to Mr. Ungar for my re-write of his beautiful phrase seven measures from the end. I'm playing in C on a G/C Morgane without a B-flat in sight! Thanks to everyone who suggested this piece as TOTM. I learned a lot from listening to all of you and trying to find something that would work for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwzARKDIWw
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: NeilA on January 31, 2010, 09:47:54 PM
Nice expression, Jeff.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Pete Dunk on January 31, 2010, 11:15:37 PM
My effort. Apologies to Mr. Ungar for my re-write of his beautiful phrase seven measures from the end. I'm playing in C on a G/C Morgane without a B-flat in sight! Thanks to everyone who suggested this piece as TOTM. I learned a lot from listening to all of you and trying to find something that would work for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwzARKDIWw

Lovely interpretation and very well played. I'm sure Mr Ungar will be well pleased by your sensitive playing of a difficult tune.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: theSmoiler on January 31, 2010, 11:32:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAFH0GSw_c

I really like this and thought it WAS clean and crisp. When I tried to play in this style, I ended up giving the tune a heavy 'lilt'  :(.
It struck me also that you made it look easy with little bellows movement. (I'm determined to record a TOTM on the naughty step but my stairs aren't wide enough  (:))
Sandy (:)

Thanks for the kind comments, Juker and Sandy. This is a nice responsive box to play - moves really easily, as the bellows have had plenty of years of playing-in in the past. When I tried it on the small Oakwood, it was just too air-hungry and had to do great 'gulps' on those runs - using the larger box was a revelation.  (Not too easy getting back on this bit of the 'naughty steps' Sandy...the house is a 'work in progress' and I removed the old mid- and top-landing carpet for the heating to be installed - as a result, I had to negotiate getting back from the camera to the steps without getting snagged on the remaining gripper rods!). Walking downstairs is always precarious....

Diane
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Clive Williams on January 31, 2010, 11:47:09 PM
And as we move into February (in 15 minutes!) a new TOTM starts up - Orange in Bloom. But please, if you've got a new version of Ashokan Farewell you want to post and discuss please do - this topic is only 'unstickied' (it doesn't appear at the top); new postings are always welcome.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on February 01, 2010, 09:35:38 AM
Dang it, I'm a day late! Many thousands of wobbly video attempts later here I am with Ashokan Farewell  :|||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5CIAiBO8L0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5CIAiBO8L0)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Bob Ellis on February 01, 2010, 11:01:27 AM
Dang it, I'm a day late! Many thousands of wobbly video attempts later here I am with Ashokan Farewell  :|||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5CIAiBO8L0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5CIAiBO8L0)

Nice rendition (despite the slight hesitations) on a beautiful-looking and sweet-sounding box. It would have been nice to see the keyboard and your fingering, but just write me off as a nerdy perfectionist!  ::)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on February 01, 2010, 12:11:47 PM
Thanks Bob and jb  (:) It actually sounds better than I thought it would when I was recording, and it is indeed a lovely box   (:) (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: juker on February 02, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
It wouldn't be as fluid on the Parigi. 2 rows don't have a reversed G button and i use this a lot.. The plan was to post O&B on the 2 row G/C once the ballot is returned .  I only use basic buttons for that so it's a fair demo piece.

And won't require my usual 30 days in the closet - it's a longtime favourite.

Jeez, this forum can be amazing. I've now downloaded a sound editor and mp3 codec save as per instrictions and it all worked first time!  Bit disappointed at only 27% smaller file size, but there you go..

http://www.chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.mp3 (http://www.chrisryall.net/ashokanfarewell.mp3)  :Ph

Chris, I have listened to this a few times now - it is a really interesting interpretation. I love the way your playing suggests the rhythm (for want of a better way of putting it!), like a secret message that sort of becomes more obvious as the tune goes on. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: stevejay on February 03, 2010, 09:47:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQN6bllYIjM

Late contribution.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: Gandy on February 08, 2010, 07:35:26 PM
I'm jumping in early on this tune as I have been playing it for a while anyway. I did have a bit of brushing up to do though, and I still cannot smoothly work the switch for the low reeds on my box in mid song. Oh well...

I've only just found this one ... by far my favourite performance, and its made me look at the tune all over again.  By the way, that's got to be the most garish box I've seen for a while.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: forrest on February 08, 2010, 07:49:19 PM



I've only just found this one ... by far my favourite performance, and its made me look at the tune all over again.  By the way, that's got to be the most garish box I've seen for a while.

Thanks Gandy....the box is a trifle  *baroque*, but it is Italian, after all;  and it's actually quite modest, compared to some out there....... ;D

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: nemethmik on February 09, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
Upon request from our great John Bone here is the tune on the Hungarian Bagpipes in Bb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfcDs9kr2aU
Miki
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GuyWyatt on February 17, 2010, 09:15:39 AM
Well here we are then. My first TOTM, first youtube post as well. I was starting to think that the only way I could move on to another tune was to just put it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AG_EcSbALM

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: **DTN** on February 17, 2010, 09:27:39 AM
Well here we are then. My first TOTM, first youtube post as well. I was starting to think that the only way I could move on to another tune was to just put it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AG_EcSbALM

Cheers
Guy

Wahey!! .. another Loffet! ..thanks Guy!... Chirpy little number! , keep working on those Basses too! ... you found some really good ones!  ;D ...and and some not so good ones  >:E Welcome to the madness that TOTM brings!
Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: GuyWyatt on February 17, 2010, 09:55:02 AM
Thank you for that Derek.  Looking at Youtube at this time in the morning - obviously not enough work to do! Once I had put it together I took it along to my chum Brian Peters for some constructive criticism which he gave me (in abundance) I have so far ignored all of it. Sorry Brian. I just had to get the tune off my chest as it were and I find it so hard to deconstruct a tune and put it back together once I have learnt it.  My plan is put it aside for a month or two and start on it from scratch - so maybe in due course there will be an even later posting. As for the madness, Derek, I had it already.
Cheers
G
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
Post by: arty on January 18, 2015, 03:02:36 PM
Apologies for being 5 years late to the party!

Back in 2012, when I was toying with the idea of buying my first melodeon, I heard Forrest, of this parish, playing Ashokan Farewell on You Tube. I fell in love with it and, at the risk of embarrassing him, it was a lot to do with Forrest, that I decided to go for it and bought my first instrument. I am glad I did!

So here's my version, although still not as nice and very different to Forrest's, I still love this tune and tried to play it as a lament, holding in my mind the sadness of the story behind the composition. It's a hard piece to do justice to and I found it difficult to play with feeling = hope you like it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ35iln8xMs