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Title: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on September 30, 2010, 11:21:49 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, unless everyone on melnet suddenly gets very organised and changes their votes in the next 10 minutes (I'm writing this a little early), this month's winner is a lovely schottische written by Frederic Paris of La Chavannee (http://www.lachavanee.com), Le Canal en October (simply called the Canal in October in the UK usually).

Courtesy of OggieSnr, here's an ABC for you:

Code: [Select]
X:1
T:The Canal in October
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:schottische
K:Gmaj
|: GA | B3B cBAG | B3B cBAG | EFGB A3 G | FGEF D2 GA |
B3B cBAG | B2 BB cBAG | EFGB A2 F2 | G2 GB G2 :|
|: Bc | d3d cBAG | d3d cBAG | EFGB A3 G | FGEF D2 Bc |
d3d cBAG | d3d cBAG | EFGB A2 F2 | G2 GB G2 :|

Goodness knows there are lots of versions of this on youtube already - this one is a nice straight version that should help in picking up the tune, albeit it's being played in C:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHcVErx2MuA

Off we go folks -beginners, this is a good simple tune to learn, played typically on the inside row, and very useful for sessions and ceilidh bands; advanced players, there's quite a lot you can do with this, so let's see where it goes!

Cheers,

Clive

[[[ A quick note to Frederic Paris on this: Frederic, if you're reading this, I'm hoping you don't mind us playing your tune - we've sent an email (thanks Chris for your help with that by the way) to your La Chavannee address asking if it's OK, but haven't got a response as yet, and we don't know if it's reached you.  If I don't hear back in a few days, maybe I'll try again to reach you through Maxou. If you don't want us to use it, please let me know; if you're happy for us to use it, thank you very much for your music!

Message pour Frédéric Paris à-propos ce fil.  Frédéric, si vous lisez cela, on espère que vous vous sentiez content que nous jouions votre mélodie. Chris vous avez envoie un email chez lachavanee.com, mais n’ a pas encore reçu un réponse. Donc c’est possible que vous ne l’aviez pas reçu. Bientôt après, on pense à tenter vous joindre par Maxou. Soit vous préférez que nous ne jouons pas ce morceau, prier de m’ avisez -  soit content, merci beaucoup de votre belle musique!]]]




Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on September 30, 2010, 11:43:37 PM
Code: [Select]
X:1
T:The Canal in October
M:4/4
L:1/8
R:schottische
K:Gmaj
|: GA | B3B cBAG |

That youtube clip confirms my suspicion (based on having seen what I think was a fairly authoritative version of the dots a long time ago) that the first bar should be:
|: GA | B3c cBAG |

With a c instead of a B as the second note of the first full bar.

If Monsieur Paris is reading, perhaps he can confirm or refute?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Simon on October 01, 2010, 07:53:47 AM
In this lovely version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qt-ohf6jUo) it's B3B. He's also got dots on his website, but I guess we're free to choose our own variations.  ;)
Edit: Monsieur Paris plays B3c in this recording (http://www.musicme.com/Frederic-Paris/albums/Rue-De-L%27oiseau-3477170751402.html#).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Ryall on October 01, 2010, 09:07:09 AM
A good site to visit is lachavannee.com (http://lachavannee.com/Accueil/infos_site.htm) - the group was founded by Frédéric's father Jaques Paris (no doubt with others) and now runs from the little farm of Embraud (its barn has a proper dance floor) next to the Allier river. They do dances most weekends, and several festivals.

La Chavannee has spun off scores of good folk musicians, and countless tunes. Attach a poster from last week's do. The front row bag pipers are (>>>) Frédéric ('Frédou'), his brother Manu, and 'Maxou' Heintzen.  The picture of the river (see website) shows the traditional punt style boats used to take produce down the Allier, and then the Loire to Nantes.  The canal is (I believe) the lateral canal of the Loire (http://www.tagweb.co.uk/french-waterways/0-waterways/loire-lateral.html)

Edit: Monsieur Paris plays B3c in this recording (http://www.musicme.com/Frederic-Paris/albums/Rue-De-L%27oiseau-3477170751402.html#)

Oh, well done, Simon! I'd thought Rue de Oiseau was a lost recording :-\   If anyone wants to play it in Fred's style - his une autre fois lead in tune  is absolutely lovely, and it never seems to get played in Britain. Then he does some fantastic 'rhythm breaking' tricks later on!  Ooo I just want to dance ... Bliss ...  8)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 01, 2010, 09:45:04 AM
In this lovely version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qt-ohf6jUo) it's B3B. He's also got dots on his website, but I guess we're free to choose our own variations.  ;)
Edit: Monsieur Paris plays B3c in this recording (http://www.musicme.com/Frederic-Paris/albums/Rue-De-L%27oiseau-3477170751402.html#).

Blimey. He takes it at quite a lick, doesn't he! Isn't a bit on the fast side for a Scottish, or is that how they dance it in the Loire Valley?

I have to agree with the poster elsethread (I think it was Chris, actually) who didn't like that YouTube version much. I can see why some people like it, but the whole performance (visually as well) strikes me as pretentious. And the basses are so relentless and unimaginative.

I'll have to see what I can do with it now. Oh dear, this had better be good, hadn't it. :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Ryall on October 01, 2010, 12:26:37 PM
Blimey. He takes it at quite a lick, doesn't he! Isn't a bit on the fast side for a Scottish, or is that how they dance it in the Loire Valley?

Timing will be spot on, I'm afraid - both Frederic and Eveline are consummate dancers. (Actually all the 'Chavans'  are)!  French polkas are also played very fast by our lights - but then they only take little steps.  Note the skip in his tune expression. Absolutely characteristic of the French style, and perhaps the main reason I personally don't like the other one.

[edit]  "elsethread" 'as now enter'd t' vernacular down Camboughidge, eh  ??? 
Ah minds it from t'  ol' song 'Poverty, Poverty Knock"  but ah  niv'r thought it'd mek it t' t' Internet thingy!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: summerstars on October 01, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
A couple of takes filmed yesterday in anticipation that Canal in October would win.

Filmed on board NB Serenade on Shropshire Union Canal on 30 September 2010 after some very hasty practice from memory of the tune  -  not perfect but it is the setting that counts for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: GuyWyatt on October 01, 2010, 10:40:31 PM
Thank-you for this.  Jolly cheerful stuff.
G
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 02, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
"elsethread" 'as now enter'd t' vernacular down Camboughidge, eh  ??? 
Ah minds it from t'  ol' song 'Poverty, Poverty Knock"

I don't know it from the song, but I've seen the word used in uk.rec.sheds, a newsgroup I've inhabited for a while. Unlike some neologisms on the net, at least it doesn't need explaining...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Kautilya on October 02, 2010, 07:39:51 PM
A couple of takes filmed yesterday in anticipation that Canal in October would win.

Filmed on board NB Serenade on Shropshire Union Canal on 30 September 2010 after some very hasty practice from memory of the tune  -  not perfect but it is the setting that counts for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0)
Tku nicely Clive and Summerstars for this tune.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on October 06, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
Here's my attempt...
found it harder than I expected. My arms tired out really quickly.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30259
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Bob Ellis on October 06, 2010, 06:07:01 PM
Well done, LDT. A nice even tempo and played with feeling. IMHO, the best you have done yet.

As for the tired arms, didn't know that you need to keep fit in order to play the melodeon. Start with twenty press-ups a day and work up from there!  >:E
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Kautilya on October 07, 2010, 12:54:58 AM
Well done, LDT. A nice even tempo and played with feeling. IMHO, the best you have done yet.

As for the tired arms, didn't know that you need to keep fit in order to play the melodeon. Start with twenty press-ups a day and work up from there!  >:E
Don't listen to him - the only press-ups he does is at the fixed end of the plank with his feet until there is enough bounce for the chorded victim at the bouncy end to be sprung off into the cold dark waters of Semmerwater... >:E >:E

mind u his pirate cowl hides his other side:
http://thedales.org.uk/TheStoryOfLakeSemmerwater
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Bob Ellis on October 07, 2010, 08:57:46 AM
Don't listen to him - the only press-ups he does is at the fixed end of the plank with his feet until there is enough bounce for the chorded victim at the bouncy end to be sprung off into the cold dark waters of Semmerwater... >:E >:E

mind u his pirate cowl hides his other side:
http://thedales.org.uk/TheStoryOfLakeSemmerwater

I tried to think of a witty response to this, but came to the conclusion that I didn't understand a word of it, so I had better keep quiet rather than show my ignorance.  ???
Getting back on topic, I was going to record a version of Le Canal en Octobre today, but it is a lovely morning, so I shall go for a walk up Ingleborough instead. Perhaps, I shall get round to recording the tune tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Kautilya on October 07, 2010, 11:33:15 AM
Don't listen to him - the only press-ups he does is at the fixed end of the plank with his feet until there is enough bounce for the chorded victim at the bouncy end to be sprung off into the cold dark waters of Semmerwater... >:E >:E

mind u his pirate cowl hides his other side:
http://thedales.org.uk/TheStoryOfLakeSemmerwater

I tried to think of a witty response to this, but came to the conclusion that I didn't understand a word of it, so I had better keep quiet rather than show my ignorance.  ???
Getting back on topic, I was going to record a version of Le Canal en Octobre today, but it is a lovely morning, so I shall go for a walk up Ingleborough instead. Perhaps, I shall get round to recording the tune tomorrow.
you could play in the caves and get the great echo!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 07, 2010, 11:44:42 AM
Sarah, I think it sounds fantastic!!! I agree that this is your best recording, and also, it made me realize that maybe I can learn this tune as well. It sounds so much less complicated when you play it. Thanks for inspiring me!!! And as for your tired arms - you're not playing the Hohner one-row, are you?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on October 07, 2010, 12:32:11 PM
Thanks both of you. Glad I inspired you susi.
Fortunately I've been learning this tune for a while (or else I'd have struggled to get up to that standard in a month).
I was playing the one row before I picked up the two row and played this.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 07, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Now when I try to play it, it seems like mission impossible. Do you switch between G chords all the time, using both the G chord on the push and then the other one on the pull??
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 07, 2010, 04:39:47 PM
Now when I try to play it, it seems like mission impossible. Do you switch between G chords all the time, using both the G chord on the push and then the other one on the pull??

I think you're trying to play it in G on a G/C, aren't you? I'm pretty sure LDT's using a D/G and playing it on the inner row. I think it sits much better on the inner row (C on a G/C), and using principally the C chord on the push, and the F on the pull.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 07, 2010, 04:54:04 PM
No, it's on a D/G...and I play it in G. I bet it would be much easier on a G/C. My hands are not made for playing on the inner row:(
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Simon on October 07, 2010, 05:51:44 PM
No, it's on a D/G...and I play it in G. I bet it would be much easier on a G/C. My hands are not made for playing on the inner row:(
There is version for G/C on diatonia.net, but it's in C. You could steal the chords from that one.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 07, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Oh, cool. I'll check it out. I did have some success in the end, but it would be nice to see what chords they chose there!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Simon on October 08, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
Here's my first try (http://simonplantinga.nl/totm/canal01.mp3) (mp3) on a Selli C/F. This tune is more difficult than I thought it would be. Hopefully a better version at the end of the month.  ;)
I think these are the chords I play:
|:F Bb|F Bb|Bb C|C|F Bb|F Bb|Bb C|F:|
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: juker on October 08, 2010, 11:56:53 PM
A couple of takes filmed yesterday in anticipation that Canal in October would win.

Filmed on board NB Serenade on Shropshire Union Canal on 30 September 2010 after some very hasty practice from memory of the tune  -  not perfect but it is the setting that counts for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0)

This is delightful! Is that a canal......in October? Perfect  :-)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: summerstars on October 09, 2010, 12:19:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUeAyQmTcjY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSiSYb-Gxk0)

This is delightful! Is that a canal......in October? Perfect  :-)

Yes it is a Canal  -   and it was very nearly in October  - the first of October was dreadful weather wise, so I took the liberty of playing it a day early.   Am back out on the boat towards the end of the month, so will try again then
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 09, 2010, 12:50:15 AM
I'm listening to Simon's recording as I type this... very good Simon!

Here's my take on Canal in October

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki0dKZR_7S8

This is a pretty straight take on it, and it's fairly close to how I'd play it in a session or for french dance. I've stuck Une Autre Fois on the front like Frederic in his original recording (great idea Chris!), although I have to admit my version of that tune is possibly a little inaccurate... I'm trying to remember it off Chris Wood and Andy Cutting's Live at Sidmouth album which I bought on cassette, and I haven't had an operational cassette player for ages. But I think it went something like that. The more observant amongst you will notice something a little odd about that first schottische... each part has only 7 bars! This should make dancing a schottische to it  (once through the dance normally lasts 4 bars) numerically impossible, but no, it works great. This tune is a great tune for setting the pace... for me it zips along with a bouncy rhythm and when you drop into Canal in October, it takes that speed and rhythm with it into the second tune. I play Une Autre Fois in the upper octave in G. For some reason, it's one of those tunes that's easier to play in the upper octave, and fiendishly difficult in the lower octave, even though (I think) all the notes are there.

Then we're into the Canal in October, played in the lower octave in G. The 3rd time through we do the rising chord sequence G->Am->Bm->C on the A music (I think of that section as a C music really), and it's how it was written down when I first saw it many, many, years ago in the infamous red On Bouge tune book put together by Simon Moore and Ravi Sawney. I think Simon ran the book past Frederic and Co (it was *full* of Chavanee tunes), so I expect the musical notation, although a little simplistic, was reasonably accurate. Certainly Frederic Paris' own version has those rising chords full of a lot more improvisation and delicacy than the way I go at it... but habit's a hard thing to break, isn't it?

Played on my Castagnari Mory in D/G, with unisonoric basses, but in this case, it's all perfectly playable on a standard 8 bass. The only reason I didn't use the pokerwork or preciosa for this one is that Une Autre Fois would have been a bit squeaky in the upper octave. Now to work on my new Scandinavian tune.... which is proving rather harder than I expected to learn! Maybe we'll see that sometime towards the back end of the month!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Owen Woods on October 09, 2010, 01:48:54 AM
Lovely stuff as per the usual Clive (:) I'm sure that you've posted it already, but what is the tuning for your bass end on that Mory? If you win the Preciosa PA thing and get someone to make an adaptor plate and frankenstein it onto your box, will you use the same pattern?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Steve_freereeder on October 09, 2010, 08:23:45 AM
Here's my take on Canal in October

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki0dKZR_7S8
Hear! Hear! - echoing Ukebert's comments.
That was really lovely playing Clive, and also interested to read your comments too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 09, 2010, 09:26:22 AM
Lovely stuff as per the usual Clive (:) I'm sure that you've posted it already, but what is the tuning for your bass end on that Mory? If you win the Preciosa PA thing and get someone to make an adaptor plate and frankenstein it onto your box, will you use the same pattern?

Why thank you :-) Chords on the bass end are (push/pull):

--Bellows--

C/C    Bm/Em.   F#m/F

G/G.   D/D.    A/A

... which is a variation on a layout that Ben Farmer from Lancaster has on his Mory. He has the A chord and Bm/Em swapped but otherwise our layouts are the same. I prefer mine since it's a lot easier to switch to/from an 8 bass layout - the pull chords are 1 position to the right of where they'd normally be - the only downside is it takes a while to get your head around the Am7 chord.

The plan is to try and put this on the preciosa but that's dependant on how easy it is to reconfigure the button rods.

Cheers
Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Stiamh on October 09, 2010, 01:15:42 PM
Speaking as one of those who often learns, or at least plays about with, the tune of the month (for a couple I have actually intended to record a clip but in the end decided I didn't have much to add):

I am struck by the similarity of the first bar or two of Canal and the other French tune we did, L'inconnu de Limoise. Yes a different rhythm, but the line of the melody... both have a strong B to start, with a passing C, moving through A and then landing back on B again. When I try to start humming one I often find the other comes to mind...  For what that is worth.

And then there are strong melodic echoes of Canal in the first tune Clive plays (nice job btw). People unfamiliar with Irish music sometimes say that all the tunes sound the same, and of course they do to an extent, or at least many of them. Perhaps I'm suffering the same phenomenon with French music (even if I'm not unfamiliar with it)?

OK back to your usual programming, and fine submissions everyone.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Owen Woods on October 09, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
Lovely stuff as per the usual Clive (:) I'm sure that you've posted it already, but what is the tuning for your bass end on that Mory? If you win the Preciosa PA thing and get someone to make an adaptor plate and frankenstein it onto your box, will you use the same pattern?

Why thank you :-) Chords on the bass end are (push/pull):

--Bellows--

C/C    Bm/Em.   F#m/F

G/G.   D/D.    A/A

... which is a variation on a layout that Ben Farmer from Lancaster has on his Mory. He has the A chord and Bm/Em swapped but otherwise our layouts are the same. I prefer mine since it's a lot easier to switch to/from an 8 bass layout - the pull chords are 1 position to the right of where they'd normally be - the only downside is it takes a while to get your head around the Am7 chord.

The plan is to try and put this on the preciosa but that's dependant on how easy it is to reconfigure the button rods.

Cheers
Clive

That sounds like a really very clever system. Better than the one that I would put on the Preciosa, which would be bass, tonic fifth for every button arranged chromatically, probably in two columns of fifths a semitone apart (apart from one at the end). This would give flexibility and would be fun to mess around with, but it would limit your playing as well.

Speaking as one of those who often learns, or at least plays about with, the tune of the month (for a couple I have actually intended to record a clip but in the end decided I didn't have much to add):

I am struck by the similarity of the first bar or two of Canal and the other French tune we did, L'inconnu de Limoise. Yes a different rhythm, but the line of the melody... both have a strong B to start, with a passing C, moving through A and then landing back on B again. When I try to start humming one I often find the other comes to mind...  For what that is worth.

And then there are strong melodic echoes of Canal in the first tune Clive plays (nice job btw). People unfamiliar with Irish music sometimes say that all the tunes sound the same, and of course they do to an extent, or at least many of them. Perhaps I'm suffering the same phenomenon with French music (even if I'm not unfamiliar with it)?

OK back to your usual programming, and fine submissions everyone.

And LIDL is very much like Michael Turner's Waltz...
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_1H1DhEc_I)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: GPS on October 09, 2010, 05:20:28 PM
While ALDI is more reminiscent of The Man In The Moon.............sorry, couldn't resist that! ;D
Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Brimley on October 09, 2010, 06:05:37 PM
Clive, superb playing - am I the only one to feel, watching your video, that your right fingers can't possibly be moving anywhere near fast enough to play that great chugga chugga sound?  It must be a very subtle technique - the quickness of the hand deceives the eye!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: waltzman on October 09, 2010, 06:55:32 PM
I expect the unisonoric basses are very helpful for the 'chugging' technique.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: waltzman on October 09, 2010, 07:13:21 PM
The schottische is a dance with a lot of possibilities for improvisation.  I'm curious, though, as to how the dancers typically deal with the missing bar.  I've never come across that before.  I tried dancing to that first tune and it's not obvious to me how to go about it.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Kautilya on October 09, 2010, 11:25:43 PM
I'm listening to Simon's recording as I type this... very good Simon!

Here's my take on Canal in October

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki0dKZR_7S8


Clive
FUNderbar!!!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 09, 2010, 11:47:14 PM
The schottische is a dance with a lot of possibilities for improvisation.  I'm curious, though, as to how the dancers typically deal with the missing bar.  I've never come across that before.  I tried dancing to that first tune and it's not obvious to me how to go about it.

Well, I think you think of each A and B music (7 bars) of 3 bars + 4 bars. The 4 bar section, you dance as normal. The 3 bar section, instead of 1 bar shuffle left/1 bar shuffle right/2 bars turn (in some unspecified way) with your partner as it's normally done, it's 1 bar shuffle left/1 bar shuffle right/1 bar turn (in some very unspecified way). This can go one of three ways... either you do that turn *very* fast, which is probably against the spirit of french dancing, you do that turn only half the way, in which case you end up facing the wrong way, but this corrects itself next time the music goes round, or if you're an advanced dancer, you improvise something *completely* different for that bar.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 09, 2010, 11:56:13 PM
I expect the unisonoric basses are very helpful for the 'chugging' technique.

Nope, nothing to do this with unisonoric basses on this tune - at least not on Canal in October... I could play that just as easily on a 2 row 8 bass. I think it might come down to a combination of my playing style, which unless I really have to, is up and down the row rather than cross rowing. Combine that with a tendancy to hold basses longer than I really should, and a tune that (tends to) go up and down the row with frequent bellows reversal, and that effect just sort of comes out.

I don't *think*, and I'm sure people will disagree with me, that Canal in October is harder than, say, Speed the Plough... it's just a matter of familiarity and approaching it with enough attack and confidence. A stiff drink may help in this. Une Autre Fois is, I will admit, considerably harder and needs to be played across the rows.

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: waltzman on October 10, 2010, 01:50:17 AM
I expect the unisonoric basses are very helpful for the 'chugging' technique.

Nope, nothing to do this with unisonoric basses on this tune - at least not on Canal in October... I could play that just as easily on a 2 row 8 bass. I think it might come down to a combination of my playing style, which unless I really have to, is up and down the row rather than cross rowing. Combine that with a tendancy to hold basses longer than I really should, and a tune that (tends to) go up and down the row with frequent bellows reversal, and that effect just sort of comes out.

I don't *think*, and I'm sure people will disagree with me, that Canal in October is harder than, say, Speed the Plough... it's just a matter of familiarity and approaching it with enough attack and confidence. A stiff drink may help in this. Une Autre Fois is, I will admit, considerably harder and needs to be played across the rows.

Cheers,

Clive

I very much like your 'chugging' technique.  I was able to do it somewhat successfully on Schottische a Bethane (thanks to your helpful video) but it seemed to sound best on the unisonoric bass ( the F on my G/C).  Chugging on the other basses didn't seem to work as well.  That was the reasoning behind my comment above.  Thanks for the info on the dancing.  And thanks again for another inspirational video.

Cheers,

Michael
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 10, 2010, 06:07:19 PM
Here's mine. Since Clive paired his with another tune, I've taken the same liberty, but I usually play it after Ganivelle (another Frédéric Paris tune) so that's what I've done here.

Somewhat unpolished and with mistakes and fluffed notes, and no fancy variations or tricks, but it more-or-less conveys this player's intentions as regards style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Fr6N2nuz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Fr6N2nuz8)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: GuyWyatt on October 10, 2010, 08:45:06 PM
I am not posting right at the last minute for a change.  Just the one tune and a very straightforward rendition of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnuxgrTM2LI

In my case of course the "unpolished and with mistakes and fluffed notes" goes without saying.

G

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 10, 2010, 11:01:11 PM
Here's mine. Since Clive paired his with another tune, I've taken the same liberty, but I usually play it after Ganivelle (another Frédéric Paris tune) so that's what I've done here.

Somewhat unpolished and with mistakes and fluffed notes, and no fancy variations or tricks, but it more-or-less conveys this player's intentions as regards style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Fr6N2nuz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Fr6N2nuz8)


Lovely... and I've got to say I really love Ganivelle - I think it's one of my favourite schottisches' ever; Mr Paris is indeed a genius at writing these sort of tunes! And is it the same Oakwood, unfettered by the velcro of old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7jc9kLGabg&feature=related)? It looks somewhat better like this!  ;D

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 10, 2010, 11:06:07 PM
I very much like your 'chugging' technique.  I was able to do it somewhat successfully on Schottische a Bethane (thanks to your helpful video) but it seemed to sound best on the unisonoric bass ( the F on my G/C).  Chugging on the other basses didn't seem to work as well.  That was the reasoning behind my comment above.  Thanks for the info on the dancing.  And thanks again for another inspirational video.

Cheers,

Michael


Thanks again - I'm afraid on reflection, I probably know as little as where that sound comes from as you do! You might try emphasising the 2nd and 4th beats of the bar and see if that helps. Also, I don't know if you've seen that you can slow down youtube videos in your browser (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5108.0.html) - this helps learning off TOTM videos no end I think!

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: waltzman on October 10, 2010, 11:16:45 PM
I very much like your 'chugging' technique.  I was able to do it somewhat successfully on Schottische a Bethane (thanks to your helpful video) but it seemed to sound best on the unisonoric bass ( the F on my G/C).  Chugging on the other basses didn't seem to work as well.  That was the reasoning behind my comment above.  Thanks for the info on the dancing.  And thanks again for another inspirational video.

Cheers,

Michael




Thanks again - I'm afraid on reflection, I probably know as little as where that sound comes from as you do! You might try emphasising the 2nd and 4th beats of the bar and see if that helps. Also, I don't know if you've seen that you can slow down youtube videos in your browser (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5108.0.html) - this helps learning off TOTM videos no end I think!

Cheers,

Clive

Yes.  My favorite schottische rhythm technique is to play a very quiet bass (or none at all) on the 1 and 3 and then a short accented chord on the 2 and 4.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: aflanderas on October 10, 2010, 11:44:31 PM
Here's my first attempt, played on an A/D/G Compadre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwMqYzTrkKo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwMqYzTrkKo)
(Also my first attempt at TOTM)

I think I'm going to try and come back to this one towards the end of the month and see if I can improve on it, as I'm not entirely happy with the way the left hand is in this recording, but I reckoned that if I didn't at least post something now, I probably never would.

I've only been trying to learn to play properly for a few months, so any constructive criticism is most welcome (before that I was sort of playing around with an old beat up C/F that was barely playable for a while.)

Thanks,
-Anders
Title: Une Autre Fois - tune to go with Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Steve_freereeder on October 11, 2010, 08:09:04 AM
It has been lovely listening to all the versions of 'Le Canal en Octobre'. I am still working at it myself and will do my best to make a recording before the end of the month. Meanwhile, I have become fascinated by the tune 'Une Autre Fois' which Clive played so beautifully as a preface to his 'Le Canal', and which Frederic Paris himself also plays before 'Le Canal' on the CD Rue de l'oiseau and for which Simon earlier posted the link to a 30-sec clip here Une Autre Fois/Le Canal en Octobre (http://www.musicme.com/Frederic-Paris/albums/Rue-De-L%27oiseau-3477170751402.html#).

I don't have the CD but listening to the 30-sec clip, I have been able to reconstruct the dots to something which is hopefully close to what M. Paris actually plays:

X:1
T:Une Autre Fois
M:C
L:1/8
C:Frederic Paris
R:Schottisch
Z:Transcribed from the playing of Frederic Paris on the CD 'Rue de l'oiseau'
K:G
Bc |: d3 c cBAG | e3d cBAG | GF FG F2 GA | B3 c BAGD |
E3F G2FG | A2AB AGBA |1 G3A GABc :|2 G3A GFGA ||
G3A G2FG | A3B AGBA | G3A GFED |
G3A GFGA | G3A G2FG | A3B AGcB | A6 |]
W:
W:Transcribed from the playing of Frederic Paris on the CD 'Rue de l'oiseau'

And yes, it has 7-bar phrases! Nice!

PDF version also attached below.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 11, 2010, 08:15:55 AM
And is it the same Oakwood, unfettered by the velcro of old (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7jc9kLGabg&feature=related)? It looks somewhat better like this!  ;D

It is and it does!
The velcro was part of a system for attaching temporary waterproofing materials, but was never used (and we found a better solution to that problem) so I ripped it off again...
Title: Re: Une Autre Fois - tune to go with Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Simon on October 11, 2010, 08:26:32 AM
I don't have the CD but listening to the 30-sec clip
The 30-second restriction is only for those outside France, so if you use a French proxy for your browser you can listen to the full cd.  ;)
Title: Re: Une Autre Fois - tune to go with Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Steve_freereeder on October 11, 2010, 08:36:23 AM
I don't have the CD but listening to the 30-sec clip
The 30-second restriction is only for those outside France, so if you use a French proxy for your browser you can listen to the full cd.  ;)
Er... thanks Simon, but I'm not sure how to do that.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: **DTN** on October 11, 2010, 01:58:09 PM
Clive W put unbearable pressure on me to record this TOTM   ;D .. so here it is ! (well he asked me if i was going to do one!)
1 quick takes 'warts and all' and just into the camera mic ..i have the sepetate recording of this done simultaneously and will see what it sounds like .. could swop the audio over!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNqiaFy7YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNqiaFy7YU)

Played on my Loffet CF

anyway ... i'm back with my first TOTM for many months!

DTN
 :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 11, 2010, 02:18:06 PM

anyway ... i'm back with my first TOTM for many months!

DTN
 :|||:

Thank goodness for that  (:)
Brill as always :||:
Cheers
Sandy
p.s. I'm still pondering on this one >:E
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alison Scott on October 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
I've always played Le Canal en Octobre (is it really called 'Canal in October' in the UK? I don't think I've ever heard that but it's clear that there's a real Francophile streak to London & SE sessions) with Ganivelle, but I too am now excited by Une Autre Fois. I think it's that 7 bar thing tweaking my brain.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 11, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
Clive W put unbearable pressure on me to record this TOTM  

Heh! Heh! Welcome back! Nice to see your version of this - I notice Une Autre Fois in the lower octave isn't an issue for you; I couldn't get my head around it... and I did try, honest!   :Ph
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Owen Woods on October 11, 2010, 05:17:27 PM
I like Une Autre Fois better than I do Canal :P Fantastic stuff as always DTN (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 12, 2010, 09:40:35 PM
Here's my attempt...
found it harder than I expected. My arms tired out really quickly.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30259

Nicely done "Our Kid"  :||:  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: forrest on October 13, 2010, 12:42:02 AM
Here's my attempt...
found it harder than I expected. My arms tired out really quickly.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30259

Just heard this...very nice! Lovely simplicity. Would fit well in a movie soundtrack. Thanks!! ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on October 13, 2010, 11:06:02 AM
Here's my attempt...
found it harder than I expected. My arms tired out really quickly.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30259

Just heard this...very nice! Lovely simplicity. Would fit well in a movie soundtrack. Thanks!! ;D
thanks. :) Simple is all I can do. ;)

Here's my attempt...
found it harder than I expected. My arms tired out really quickly.
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30259

Nicely done "Our Kid"  :||:  :|glug
thanks. :)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 13, 2010, 11:23:31 AM
Here we go then. In for a penny in for a pound. I think I'm pounding this. :|bl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgJ_i5UEB5c

Saltarelle Connemara II  D/G

Cheers  :|glug

Of course the best version I've heard is this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qt-ohf6jUo&feature=related

Think I'll get a beret might help the flow of the fingers and the attitude.

Cheers again  :|glug  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Stiamh on October 13, 2010, 01:43:42 PM
That's a joyful noise you're making there Chas.  :|glug  :M

Think I'll get a beret might help the flow of the fingers and the attitude.

Spectacles might help too (what yer man is wearing is no beret)  ;)

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 13, 2010, 02:12:24 PM
That's a joyful noise you're making there Chas.  :|glug  :M

Think I'll get a beret might help the flow of the fingers and the attitude.

Spectacles might help too (what yer man is wearing is no beret)  ;)



Steve Check the Scandinavia tunes. I've got the hat, but not the fingers.  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Stiamh on October 13, 2010, 02:27:23 PM
Nifty, nifty. Around here lots of powerful people sport BlackBerets.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: **DTN** on October 13, 2010, 06:13:19 PM
Clive W put unbearable pressure on me to record this TOTM   ;D .. so here it is ! (well he asked me if i was going to do one!)
1 quick takes 'warts and all' and just into the camera mic ..i have the sepetate recording of this done simultaneously and will see what it sounds like .. could swop the audio over!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNqiaFy7YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNqiaFy7YU)

Played on my Loffet CF

anyway ... i'm back with my first TOTM for many months!

DTN
 :|||:

in case anyone wants a better sound file recorded at the same time!   http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742)     :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Stiamh on October 13, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: **DTN** link=topic=5088.msg65056#msg65056 in case anyone wants a better sound file recorded at the same time!   [b
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742)[/b]     :|||:

Great gutsy job Derek, carries us along irresistibly.

I hesitate to offer any criticism of such a consummate performance, but... I feel the melody gets somewhat overwhelmed by the power of the basses - on both recordings, although more so on the YT clip. A question of taste, no doubt, but it's something that struck me immediately. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: **DTN** on October 13, 2010, 09:03:53 PM
Quote from: **DTN** link=topic=5088.msg65056#msg65056 in case anyone wants a better sound file recorded at the same time!   [b
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30742)[/b]     :|||:

Great gutsy job Derek, carries us along irresistibly.

I hesitate to offer any criticism of such a consummate performance, but... I feel the melody gets somewhat overwhelmed by the power of the basses - on both recordings, although more so on the YT clip. A question of taste, no doubt, but it's something that struck me immediately.  

Its mostly because i sat on a Cajon and thumped the side of it with my foot nervously all the way through!.... and youtube does alter sounds sometime!   >:E
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on October 13, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
you nervous? Never.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 14, 2010, 12:00:35 AM
I really prefer the traditional timing but had to experiment.   >:E

Sorry for the slight squeaks, taps and general noise.  :|||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPdz9Dp-qs

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: forrest on October 14, 2010, 12:17:24 AM

Played on my Loffet CF

anyway ... i'm back with my first TOTM for many months!

DTN
 :|||:



Nice motive tempo, DTN, just right in the headphones for a brisk bike ride along the irrigation canal in the fine fall weather! ;D 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: **DTN** on October 14, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
I really prefer the traditional timing but had to experiment.   >:E

Sorry for the slight squeaks, taps and general noise.  :|||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPdz9Dp-qs

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

blimey theres a traditional timing! ;D   ....really nice job!  ....mine was @ andy cutting speed from 'Live at Sidmouth' (i was in the crowd!) in fact mine is slower! ;D
lovely chirpy tempo sandy .. love it  xx.. and CF rocks for this tune!
Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 14, 2010, 10:41:29 AM
It seems that I 'ave " 'at 'e chewed "

Sacre Bleu ! How bad is my French.  I see I called it Canal De Octobre. Canal OF October. well, it works I suppose.

Cheers Chas  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 14, 2010, 11:02:20 AM
Sacre Bleu ! How bad is my French.

Never mind, I'm sure your Swedish is a whole lot better than the rest of us.
(not counting Susi, of course...)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Brimley on October 14, 2010, 11:54:14 AM
Here's my attempt:

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=30836

I followed it up with One for Dan, written I believe by Dave Whetstone.  I put this with it because I associate the 'along the row chugger' sound with this tune too.

My over-intrusive stomp has clearly upset the schottische rhythm, but what the heck!

I was having a go at triplets on the Canal tune, because of the opportunity given by the repeated B and D notes.  This is my first serious attempt at these, having been long amazed by Sharon Shannon's technique - I used 121 on the B, then 321 on the D.  I experimented with 432 on the D first, which seemed to work equally well, but it didn't quite fall under the fingers in the same way.  However I can see that 432 might have advantages, because it leaves the first finger free for the next button.  Does anyone else find this useful?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: waltzman on October 14, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
I really prefer the traditional timing but had to experiment.   >:E

Sorry for the slight squeaks, taps and general noise.  :|||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPdz9Dp-qs

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

I have no idea what the 'traditional timing' is that you speak of.  This is a beautiful version and very danceable.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 14, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
I really prefer the traditional timing but had to experiment.   >:E

Well, you make a very persuasive case for playing it that way.  8)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 14, 2010, 08:08:38 PM
I have no idea what the 'traditional timing' is that you speak of.  This is a beautiful version and very danceable.

Well thank-you. I just know that it sounds different and I couldn't really define a Schottische if it hit me in the face  :|bl

Maybe I should have written 'original timing/style'. I should try and learn about dance too, that might help me understand more.

Anyway, thanks all.
Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 14, 2010, 10:20:32 PM
I couldn't really define a Schottische if it hit me in the face  :|bl
(...)
I should try and learn about dance too, that might help me understand more.
Not wrong!
Get someone to teach you how to dance a Schottische. It's will take about 20 seconds to show you the steps and 2 minutes practice and you'll be an expert. :Ph
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Theo on October 15, 2010, 08:14:47 AM
I couldn't really define a Schottische if it hit me in the face  :|bl
(...)
I should try and learn about dance too, that might help me understand more.
Not wrong!
Get someone to teach you how to dance a Schottische. It's will take about 20 seconds to show you the steps and 2 minutes practice and you'll be an expert. :Ph


Schottisch is possible my favourite couple dance, so easy yet with endless possibilities for variation and fun.  And you get to hold your partner as close as you both like. ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 15, 2010, 08:38:21 AM
Posted this on Facebook for Sandy to help her with the dance
If you're gonna play for dancers it helps to know the dance.

Basic steps are the first bit (The skip walk) and the swing.

This is just one of the many variations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LtzXTE_DBo

Enjoy  :|glug

Chas
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on October 15, 2010, 09:58:54 AM
I didn't realize the steps for a Swedish Schottis were essentially the same as for French.
Man: Two sidesteps L, two sidesteps R, four single steps turning
Woman: same but swap L and R

The rest is embellishment and variation. And walking round in a circle at the beginning.

Of course that only helps slightly with the music, because not everybody does it at the same speed, hence my query about whether Frédéric Paris's version seemed fast perhaps because that's the way they do it in that region of France. Much the same way as rants and other dances are danced at different speeds in the North and South of England, or the difference between "social dance" and "e-ceilidh".
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 15, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
I couldn't really define a Schottische if it hit me in the face  :|bl
(...)
I should try and learn about dance too, that might help me understand more.
Not wrong!
Get someone to teach you how to dance a Schottische. It's will take about 20 seconds to show you the steps and 2 minutes practice and you'll be an expert. :Ph


Schottisch is possible my favourite couple dance, so easy yet with endless possibilities for variation and fun.  And you get to hold your partner as close as you both like. ;)

All sounds and looks good to me. I've put it on my things to do list. Oh I love this folk world !   :|||: 8)

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Theo on October 15, 2010, 10:58:02 AM
All sounds and looks good to me. I've put it on my things to do list. Oh I love this folk world !   :|||: 8)

Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

Here is a calendar of French dance events throughout the UK from Les Panards Dansants (http://www.frenchdanceleeds.co.uk/events/frenchdiaryuk.php)  There are various workshops, courses, bals where you can learn and enjoy schottiches and more
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 15, 2010, 11:08:29 AM
Here is a calendar of French dance events throughout the UK from Les Panards Dansants (http://www.frenchdanceleeds.co.uk/events/frenchdiaryuk.php)  There are various workshops, courses, bals where you can learn and enjoy schottiches and more

Superb thank you.
Cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Ryall on October 15, 2010, 02:38:25 PM
I see that Grand Bal de Bath 23 – 24 Oct 2010 has Maxu Heintzen there and it'd be a good opprtunity to meet him. He has good English and is a lovely chap with wicked humour.

But any event in Theo's calendar will learn you the scottiche. With an even vaguely useful male partner  - a lady can pick up the steps in a simple 5-6 times though. Mazurka's a bit of a bugger (but worth the effort).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 15, 2010, 04:32:19 PM

Of course that only helps slightly with the music, because not everybody does it at the same speed.

Unlike playing for Morris where you follow the dancers. (Or do you ? )

I know in my Swedish dance group they dance to our (musicians) tempo.
Sometimes they'll say it was too fast or to slow. Especially the new dances we are trying out. Mostly we get it right.

All Swedish dance sides have their own tempo, I guess. And their own variations of the dance. Where they show off. Bit like all dance sides.

Chas  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 15, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
Here is a calendar of French dance events throughout the UK from Les Panards Dansants (http://www.frenchdanceleeds.co.uk/events/frenchdiaryuk.php)  There are various workshops, courses, bals where you can learn and enjoy schottiches and more

Superb thank you.
Cheers
Sandy
 (:)

Hey I liked that site Theo thanks  :|glug Chas and one for you  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Simon on October 16, 2010, 07:54:57 AM
my query about whether Frédéric Paris's version seemed fast perhaps because that's the way they do it in that region of France.
There's probably regional differences, but they're usually pretty fast in France. Try searching for some random Fest Noz scottisches on youtube like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRF40l2R4kY).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pammylou on October 18, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Hi.  I have been playing the melodeon for about 15 months.  I have been a member of Melnet since November 2009 but so far have just been lurking in the forums to see what is going on.

I really liked Le Canal en Octobre when I saw that it had been nominated for October's TOTM (although I voted for the Steamboat Hornpipe). So, I have tried to learn it and have posted it to YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRCbbyWkG4

This is the first time I have posted here, the first time I have recorded myself playing the melodeon and the first time I have ever put anything on YouTube - therefore a triple whammy  ;D

I would be most grateful for any constructive feedback  (:)

Pam


 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: summerstars on October 18, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
Hi.  I have been playing the melodeon for about 15 months.  I have been a member of Melnet since November 2009 but so far have just been lurking in the forums to see what is going on.

I really liked Le Canal en Octobre when I saw that it had been nominated for October's TOTM (although I voted for the Steamboat Hornpipe). So, I have tried to learn it and have posted it to YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRCbbyWkG4

This is the first time I have posted here, the first time I have recorded myself playing the melodeon and the first time I have ever put anything on YouTube - therefore a triple whammy  ;D

I would be most grateful for any constructive feedback  (:)

Pam

Very impressive Pam  -   a hit on all three of your triple whammy points!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 18, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
Well done. Keep that up and you will show us all up. :|bl

Wish I could do basses like that.
Although some will say you have a couple of other fingers you should be using. I was told it was a bad habit to just use two. So get that third finger on the left hand doing what the second one is doing now.

Cheers Chas  :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pammylou on October 18, 2010, 12:00:57 PM
Thank you Summerstars and Chas for your kind comments.  It is great to get some feedback  (:)

I have tried using my third finger on the left hand - George Garside gave some good advice in his beginner's workshop in Whitby this year.  However, my third finger seems very weak, so I have got into the bad habit of moving my first and second fingers around the basses.  I will have to try and strengthen the finger and break the habit  (:)

Pam
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: brianread on October 18, 2010, 12:50:52 PM
Thank you Summerstars and Chas for your kind comments.  It is great to get some feedback  (:)

I have tried using my third finger on the left hand - George Garside gave some good advice in his beginner's workshop in Whitby this year.  However, my third finger seems very weak, so I have got into the bad habit of moving my first and second fingers around the basses.  I will have to try and strengthen the finger and break the habit  (:)

Pam

although I am a four finger bass man, you will see that many professional players actually manage with only 2, so don't hit yourself too hard about it. 
You have nice rhythm and your "rollover" action on the E from the D row gives some nice effects. 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pammylou on October 18, 2010, 05:59:52 PM
Many thanks for your constructive comments and encouragement, Brian.

I must say that having now posted to YouTube and to this forum I find that the encouragement is brilliant. 

Thanks to everyone   :|||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: **DTN** on October 18, 2010, 06:16:02 PM
Quote
although I am a four finger bass man, you will see that many professional players actually manage with only 2, so don't hit yourself too hard about it.  
You have nice rhythm and your "rollover" action on the E from the D row gives some nice effects.  

Very nice playing Pam ... I routinely only use 2 fingers on my bass playing occasionally 3 .. never did me any harm!  ;D ;D
Keep up the good work and we'll see your next one soon!

Derek
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Lester on October 18, 2010, 07:01:58 PM
Hi.  I have been playing the melodeon for about 15 months. 

I would be most grateful for any constructive feedback  (:)

Pam
Fine playing for a relative newby.

I would worry though that there seems to be a sniper in your house with one of those sniper laser things, and it's targeted on your melodeon  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 19, 2010, 12:32:10 AM

This is the first time I have posted here, the first time I have recorded myself playing the melodeon and the first time I have ever put anything on YouTube - therefore a triple whammy  ;D

I would be most grateful for any constructive feedback  (:)

Pam

Well played Pam, very clear with steady basses indeed. Well done too for getting it on you tube and mel.net. Looking forward to the next one!

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: uofdoboe on October 19, 2010, 01:33:43 AM
I'm back after a several-month absence!  The tune ended up perkier than I originally imagined it to be, but it's fun with some bounce.  Haven't watched many others' yet so hopefully this version is fairly plagiarism-free!  I always end up stealing bits of others' songs that I like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsGnRiNzTY
Title: First time video!
Post by: DaveCottrell on October 19, 2010, 02:18:26 AM
Here's my attempt.  It's a little warty, but as it is my first attempt at getting this done,  I need to get the process out of the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdsxX4k_Ik (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdsxX4k_Ik)

Played on my Castagnari Sander, which sounds a whole lot better in person!!

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pammylou on October 19, 2010, 11:25:47 AM
I would worry though that there seems to be a sniper in your house with one of those sniper laser things, and it's targeted on your melodeon  ;D

Yes, it's my little Flip video camera  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Brimley on October 19, 2010, 01:22:15 PM
Quote
although I am a four finger bass man, you will see that many professional players actually manage with only 2, so don't hit yourself too hard about it. 
You have nice rhythm and your "rollover" action on the E from the D row gives some nice effects. 


Very nice playing Pam ... I routinely only use 2 fingers on my bass playing occasionally 3 .. never did me any harm!   
Keep up the good work and we'll see your next one soon!

Derek

Yes, I think there's no great problem with 2-finger basses, with the occasional 3rd or 4th thrown in where necessary.  It helps with steady rhythm to use just the 1st and 2nd, I find, and it's pretty easy to reach all the buttons.  A great bit of playing, Pam.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pammylou on October 20, 2010, 10:42:14 AM
Thank you Chris, and everyone else for their encouragement.

What will be the tune of the month for November, I wonder?  (:)  Can't wait to get stuck in!

Pam
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Fidjit on October 20, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
Thank you Chris, and everyone else for their encouragement.

What will be the tune of the month for November, I wonder?  (:)  Can't wait to get stuck in!

Pam

You can try your hand at all the previous ones. We've been going for a twelve month.

Chas :Ph
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 21, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
Nice work, everyone!! I'm afraid I'll have to jump this one too. I've learned it but it takes time to get some flow in it and I have no time right now for consistent practice. Oh ***** !!! (while writing I just discovered it is snowing heavily outside!  ;D) Ehm, what's your opinion, should I participate with quite bad sort of "first take" recordings with a lot of mistakes just for participating, or wait until I actually have time to practice like normal people (which probably won't happen until after Christmas)? The risk is that I get too much perfectionist and don't want to record anything until I'm "good enough", which probably takes years...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on October 21, 2010, 09:53:28 AM
Nice work, everyone!! I'm afraid I'll have to jump this one too. I've learned it but it takes time to get some flow in it and I have no time right now for consistent practice. Oh ***** !!! (while writing I just discovered it is snowing heavily outside!  ;D) Ehm, what's your opinion, should I participate with quite bad sort of "first take" recordings with a lot of mistakes just for participating, or wait until I actually have time to practice like normal people (which probably won't happen until after Christmas)? The risk is that I get too much perfectionist and don't want to record anything until I'm "good enough", which probably takes years...
Do a now and then one. (Gives an ego boost wen you record one after you practice after seeing the one before.) And I'm sure its not as bad as you think. ;)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 21, 2010, 09:56:33 PM
Yeah, maybe I should try that...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 22, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
Ok, so here's the first take, the "now" one. It didn't turn out too bad actually. Lack bellows control as usual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lcQRUl1Yqs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lcQRUl1Yqs)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Lester on October 24, 2010, 12:19:34 PM
TSMB and my offering for the Tune of the Month -  Ganivelle and The Canal in October on Hammer Dulcimer and Saltarelle L'Elfique

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Susi on October 24, 2010, 03:51:03 PM
Very nice, Lester!! You have a great rhythm in that.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: forrest on October 24, 2010, 05:46:40 PM
TSMB and my offering for the Tune of the Month -  Ganivelle and The Canal in October on Hammer Dulcimer and Saltarelle L'Elfique

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868)

Wow, lovely tunes and a delightful combination of tones from the box & dulcimer. Nicely played as well ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Ellison on October 26, 2010, 02:38:55 AM
TSMB and my offering for the Tune of the Month -  Ganivelle and The Canal in October on Hammer Dulcimer and Saltarelle L'Elfique

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868)

This is lovely Lester. What a good sound dulcimer and melodeon make and good pairing of tunes.

Martin
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Sandy on October 26, 2010, 07:26:04 AM
TSMB and my offering for the Tune of the Month -  Ganivelle and The Canal in October on Hammer Dulcimer and Saltarelle L'Elfique

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=31868)

It is a lovely combination and I really like the saltarelle on this one. Bravo to you both.

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Ziachmusi/Louise on October 31, 2010, 10:21:43 AM
Here's my version (just in time :|||:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLZAlEwGb0Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLZAlEwGb0Q)
Played on my "new" D/G box bought from Luca of this Parish, one of the first tunes on a D/G for me

Louise
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Howard Jones on October 31, 2010, 08:32:34 PM
As I voted for this tune I thought I'd better record it, but I've been so busy with one thing and another that I didn't get around to it, so (with just hours to go!) here's a version I recorded a couple of years ago with my band Albireo:

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32404 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32404)

Does anyone know the name of the second tune?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Bob Ellis on October 31, 2010, 11:09:49 PM

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32404 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32404)

Does anyone know the name of the second tune?

I don't know whether this is the correct name of the second tune, but I know it as 'A Winter's Dream'. It is the tune used for a Border Morris dance of the same name.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on October 31, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
Time to put this tune to bed as we move onto the next month's tune, The Steamboat Hornpipe. As ever, late submissions to this thread are always extremely welcome.

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pete c on October 31, 2010, 11:35:39 PM
Well - I promised myself I'd have a go, so here is my first ever attempt at ToM (caught on the microphone of my laptop):

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32428 (http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=32428)

I've had my melodeon for about 6 or 7 weeks now and decided that trying to tackle ToM would be a good challenge. Didn't realise quite what a challenge as everyone else seems to play the tune seem so smoothly. My canal seems more of a stagnant backwater with occassional rushes! Still, I've enjoyed trying.

The bit I've uploaded is the longest bit I could catch without total collapse. I find that if my brain lets one or other of my hands know that it's 'watching', everything falls apart. I seem to need to sort of sneak up on my hands and watch them out of the corner of my brain, if that makes sense. Once recording, this became even harder to do.

Many thanks to those who have posted as it has been a real inspiration (not that you can tell yet!) to hear you all play.

Pete
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: GbH on November 01, 2010, 01:45:36 AM
I'm a bit late on this one, but the prospect of trying to think up another Halloween-related video was too hard to resist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1Aj7kDXtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws1Aj7kDXtA)

Yep, the tune ends up getting a bit lost in my attempt at figuring out a variation.  So, when is it that a variation crosses the line and just becomes a different tune completely?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: BCC#er on November 01, 2010, 02:47:38 AM
GbH: I think you should do your own TV show! You're a genius! :|glug
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Steve_freereeder on November 01, 2010, 06:48:28 AM
Pete c: Great first attempt. Interesting variation on the tune - not quite as it would normally be played, but that's how tunes evolve in the tradition.  Very nice steady tempo. If you've only been playing 6 - 7 weeks, you are doing very well. Good stuff!

GbH: Wonderful, as usual :D . Is there no end to your talents?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Bob Ellis on November 01, 2010, 09:22:50 AM
Pete: Respect! A very impressive performance for someone who has only been playing for a few weeks. A crisp rendition with a steady tempo. I presume the variation was deliberate, since it was repeated.

GbH: Another entertaining video. A very ethereal rendition. Your musicianship is matched by your showmanship and your video-editing skills. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: pete c on November 01, 2010, 10:21:39 AM
Thank you both for your generous comments. The variation is what my fingers kept doing so I stuck with it as I was having so much trouble with the basses that I couldn't spare any concentration for anything else. Hence the 'ish' in the title of my upload.

You should have heard my variations on The Liberty Bell after 2 weeks of playing the melodeon. ;D

It's probably not as impressive as all that - I did fiddle with an anglo concertina a while ago but never really got anywhere with it, so I did at least have some experience of push/pull. I kept being tempted by a melodeon and when I saw mine going fairly cheaply on ebay, I decided I'd give it a go and see if I could do any better.

Pete
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: GbH on November 01, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Thanks for the comments, all.

Should you be interested, I've just post a blog entry giving a bit of background describing how the animation came to be.  It's at...

http://gbhandlebar.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/the-halloween-animation-challenge/ (http://gbhandlebar.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/the-halloween-animation-challenge/)


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: forrest on November 01, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
Thanks for the comments, all.



A masterwork! Thunderous applause from this end! (Where's the applause emoticon??)

                       
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: ladydetemps on November 10, 2010, 09:54:30 AM
Canal en octobre
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=33169

This was recorded 'live' yesterday by me and Susi hence the background noise.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Mcgrooger on December 07, 2010, 06:01:48 PM
Clive, I hope you'll allow an impertinent question from a brand new member. I loved your playing of Une Autre Fois and Canal in October. I knew the second tune but not the first and I read a number of the comments on it. I think I'm right in saying that you say it's in parts of 7 bars. When I listen to your fab version (and DtN's), assuming the parts are AAB, I can only count 6 bars in the B part. When I've looked at the ABC that someone kindly posted and listen to Frederic P playing, I can definitely detect 7 in both parts. Feel free to tell me it's coz I've got cloth ears! ???
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Clive Williams on December 08, 2010, 02:56:31 PM
Clive, I hope you'll allow an impertinent question from a brand new member. I loved your playing of Une Autre Fois and Canal in October. I knew the second tune but not the first and I read a number of the comments on it. I think I'm right in saying that you say it's in parts of 7 bars. When I listen to your fab version (and DtN's), assuming the parts are AAB, I can only count 6 bars in the B part. When I've looked at the ABC that someone kindly posted and listen to Frederic P playing, I can definitely detect 7 in both parts. Feel free to tell me it's coz I've got cloth ears! ???

I think I've probably just misremembered it! When I count it through in my head I get 7 bars for the first A 6 bars for the second A and 7 bars for the B music, so somethings not right! I must listen to the original again!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on May 27, 2011, 03:00:21 PM
OK - I know I'm seven month late in posting this, but just got around to learning it this morning  ;D

Canal In October.
Link Deleted.....new version uploaded...see below.

Alan  :||:
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on June 01, 2011, 05:23:58 PM
I wasn't happy with the first version as I'd only just learned the tune about an hour before  :-[

Anyway - I have re-recorded the melodeon and cleaned the guitar bit up and added a bit of reverb. Shot a video too on the local canal which is about ten minuted stroll away from the house. The video is in 1080 HD if your broadband is fast enough.. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWeTwjnOqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWeTwjnOqQ)

It's still a slow version with full use of the bass side..I hope someone fancies a go at it at the slower speed.

cheers

Alan
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Steve_freereeder on June 01, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Anyway - I have re-recorded the melodeon and cleaned the guitar bit up and added a bit of reverb. Shot a video too on the local canal which is about ten minuted stroll away from the house. The video is in 1080 HD if your broadband is fast enough.. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWeTwjnOqQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWeTwjnOqQ)
It's still a slow version with full use of the bass side..I hope someone fancies a go at it at the slower speed.
Alan, that is really lovely, thank you.
 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Bob Ellis on June 01, 2011, 07:15:10 PM
A very restful interpretation, Alan, augmented by a lovely video. It has put me into a mellow mood, so I shall go and play some suitably gentle tunes, starting with Valse du Vent, even if it didn't win the Tune of the Month poll.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Gary Chapin on June 01, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Showing your sentimental side, Alan.  I mean ... ducks! 

That's lovely.  Love the tune.  Love your playing.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on June 01, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
Showing your sentimental side, Alan.  I mean ... ducks! 

That's lovely.  Love the tune.  Love your playing.

Baby ducks too Gary, and moorhens (the black ones)....well - they were there so I videoed 'em. Pity no narrowboats though....

Thanks for the lovely comments.. :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: forrest on June 02, 2011, 04:03:18 AM
Very nice rendering, Mr. Almo. I like the slow peaceful quality of it. I think you have captured the essence of this tune perfectly. Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Chris Ryall on June 02, 2011, 05:59:52 AM
A very restful interpretation, Alan, augmented by a lovely video. It has put me into a mellow mood, so I shall go and play some suitably gentle tunes

Indeed - sometimes a new 'view ' on a tune completely changes it's feel and Alan has produced a fine example   See it's the  Huddersfield Narrow Canal bi-centenary this year - Nora Batey would have been reet proud, had she survived.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Gary Chapin on June 03, 2011, 02:52:15 PM
I tried to do this with my "La Roulante," a gentler touch, a slower (non-polka) pace, but I don't think it really worked ... I didn't have ducks.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on June 04, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
A very restful interpretation, Alan, augmented by a lovely video. It has put me into a mellow mood, so I shall go and play some suitably gentle tunes

Indeed - sometimes a new 'view ' on a tune completely changes it's feel and Alan has produced a fine example   See it's the  Huddersfield Narrow Canal bi-centenary this year - Nora Batey would have been reet proud, had she survived.

Sorry - I first read that as 'Nora Batty' - I had a 'Last of The Summer Wine' moment

Thanks for the nice comment

Alan
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Lyn on June 27, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
I can play this really well on my fiddle, it's a very fiddle-friendly tune, quite simple. Just drifting through this thread this morning (either that or get into the ironing........you know which one is going to win.) and I thought - have a go on melodeon...I watched the first one by the French guy with all the buttons and great facial expressions and wondered if my DG would play it  ( my current concern on another thread) and found the notes by crossing the rows. Then listen to some more postings and found I was actually playing the same notes as most people so phew , sigh of relief. Haven't got to grips with the basses yet - in fact making a complete hash of them. But I do think I will soon be playing this ...after a fashion. If I can manage to figure out how to upload it I will.Thanks to everyone who posts these tunes, what a brill facility!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Martin J on June 27, 2011, 11:30:31 PM
Lovely Alan.  A total re take on Canal in October now renamed Erewash Canal in June  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on June 28, 2011, 08:02:32 AM
Lovely Alan.  A total re take on Canal in October now renamed Erewash Canal in June  ;D

Thanks Martin,
Thanks for the comment.

Just as a quick story.
There are two canals here within about ten minutes walk of each other - the Erewash Canal in the valley, and the disused Nottingham Canal which runs across a ridge. Because the canals were cut into the ground by navvies (navigators) one canal was always knows at the 'bottom cut' and the other as 'top cut'.

When I had a kitchen studio in Ilkeston, there was a DIY shop next door and the owner told me that when the canals were being dug - his shop used to be a 'doss house' where the navvies used to doss down and sleep.

Alan
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on June 28, 2011, 09:10:51 AM
There are two canals here within about ten minutes walk of each other - the Erewash Canal in the valley, and the disused Nottingham Canal which runs across a ridge. Because the canals were cut into the ground by navvies (navigators) one canal was always knows at the 'bottom cut' and the other as 'top cut'.

When I had a kitchen studio in Ilkeston, there was a DIY shop next door and the owner told me that when the canals were being dug - his shop used to be a 'doss house' where the navvies used to doss down and sleep.
Alan

Living where you do, you may be interested in this if you haven't seen it already: The Navvy's Wife, a folk musical by Mick Ryan (http://www.thenavvyswife.co.uk/)
I've heard some of the album and the music is fabulous. The live show's had glowing reviews too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Mcgrooger on July 07, 2011, 02:23:17 PM
I'm only 9 months late with my effort for this TOTM. Here's Une Autre Fois which I first heard through this thread soon after I joined the forum, Ganivelle and Canal in October. Played on Saltarelle Pastourelle III.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4CX8QyjeRE
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on July 07, 2011, 03:14:33 PM
I'm only 9 months late with my effort for this TOTM. Here's Une Autre Fois which I first heard through this thread soon after I joined the forum, Ganivelle and Canal in October. Played on Saltarelle Pastourelle III.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4CX8QyjeRE
Dosen't seem to run on YouTube... :(
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Tyker on July 07, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
Does for me
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Mcgrooger on July 07, 2011, 03:38:03 PM
Cheers, Tyker. It still seems ok from my end too.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Gary Chapin on July 07, 2011, 03:53:45 PM
Worked for me.  Sounds lovely.  Well done!

About being 9 months late:  it really takes me a long time to get a tune under my fingers.  Lemmy Brazil's #2 is about ready for me to record, as is the Dark Girl Dressed in Blue.  I'm not really interested in doing revolutionary things with these tunes and developing my own approach, I just want to be able to play strongly and at ease.  That takes some time.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Anahata on July 07, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
??? Works for me!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Mcgrooger on July 07, 2011, 04:04:14 PM
Worked for me.  Sounds lovely.  Well done!

About being 9 months late:  it really takes me a long time to get a tune under my fingers.  Lemmy Brazil's #2 is about ready for me to record, as is the Dark Girl Dressed in Blue.  I'm not really interested in doing revolutionary things with these tunes and developing my own approach, I just want to be able to play strongly and at ease.  That takes some time.

Thank you Gary. I joined the forum last Autumn and now have a bit of an ambition to go back and post something for each month's TOTM and/or ThOTM. It would certainly make me learn a lot of new tunes. (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on July 07, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
Hi chaps,
I tried other videos on You Tube and they didn't work either  :-[

I have installed a Java update and a web design program today - they must have messed up the video.
After a 'System Restore' to two days ago - everything is working again now - phew - no total re-build   :Ph

After all that, managed to see the video McG - great stuff - lovely sounding box and nicely played too.

Alan
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Mcgrooger on July 08, 2011, 08:43:28 AM
Hi chaps,
I tried other videos on You Tube and they didn't work either  :-[

After all that, managed to see the video McG - great stuff - lovely sounding box and nicely played too.

Alan
Thank you for the kind words Alan and glad your computer's back in the land of the living. (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: gmatkin on January 30, 2015, 08:32:04 PM
I'm spectacularly late, I know, but I've finally got around to playing it!

http://youtu.be/SZ-1zjN-ICY (http://youtu.be/SZ-1zjN-ICY)

Gavin
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for October 2010 - Canal in October / Le Canal en Octobre
Post by: Alan Morley on January 31, 2015, 06:06:06 AM
I had deleted my version, then uploaded it again later - it's here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRApj-NgGE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNRApj-NgGE)