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Title: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 16, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
I'd love to see/hear more recordings put up on TOTM and ThOTM! It's interesting to read people chatting about instrument makes/layouts, teaching and learning etc. but it makes a lot more sense when you can see/listen to someone playing their chosen boxes and tune of the month is an ideal vehicle for this. A bit like 'putting a name to a face'. If I can cope with the technology, anyone can. I don't think it needs to be a polished performance (as you'll see from my Brighton Camp), just an opportunity to share. So come on you wallflowers! :||: :|||: ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: ladydetemps on August 16, 2011, 02:39:54 PM
August is a busy month for a lot of people...so sometimes it can be a bit quiet on the video front.
Personally I try to do my video as early as possible....then maybe go back later in the year with my more polished performance. ;)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Owen Woods on August 16, 2011, 02:40:11 PM
Quite ;D I have realised that it has been months since I last did one, very remiss of me. Probably won't have time this month, but will definitely do one next month.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Theo on August 16, 2011, 03:17:59 PM
So come on you wallflowers! :||: :|||: ;D

The whole business of playing to a camera+mic seems so impersonal.  I'd much rather play with one or more other musicians where there can be some interaction, and play in the other sense.

Very happy for any passing melnetters to call in for a tune and a cup of tea.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 16, 2011, 04:20:00 PM
This happened at the same time last year. As LDT says it's a busy time.
For me, with a day job, YouTube videos tend to get done at weekends, and my excuse for not doing any in July was two weekends in Canada and the rest of the time too busy with preparing for that, along with all the regular stuff that had to happen anyway.

Similar for many of us - we're away on holiday or at festivals more weekends.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: GPS on August 16, 2011, 04:27:27 PM
Very happy for any passing melnetters to call in for a tune and a cup of tea.

Me too.....but it doesn't seem very likely in a Cypriot mountain village...... ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Alan Morley on August 16, 2011, 05:03:29 PM
I have done any video for a while, although did a sound track for Brighton Camp on SoundCloud.
When I do a video I get carried away and lose a full day on multi-tracking stuff which take ages to edit together.

Most of my time for the last few weeks have been spent developing the website / Flickr / Twitter / Forum and networking on Facebook etc.

I could get into shooting video - someone on Facebook has asked if I'd do one for them...

Alan
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 16, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
I wasn't really commenting on the odd quiet month. I'm just hoping more peops will join in as I feel it helps us all to get to know one another better through seeing/hearing each other play. @Theo - I'd be more than happy to see a video of you playing with your band.  It doesn't just have to be just for us Billy Nomates!  ::) :'(
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Theo on August 16, 2011, 05:33:46 PM
I think the logistics of recording or videoin a band could be even more time consuming!  I'd rather just be playing, like at the session at the Cumberlan Arms tonight. ;D

Now come to think of it I did use my phone to record a band that was put together for the Folkworks Summer School.  I'll check that and see if it might be worth posting.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 16, 2011, 05:49:00 PM
I look forward to hearing 'Brighton Camp as played at the Cumberland Arms' tomorrow. I could record sound at a session with my la'al Olympus digital recorder - I'm sure a 'posh' phone will do just as well!  ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 16, 2011, 05:50:34 PM
On the other hand it might be more tricky to capture a quick tune played slowly in a session as it's usually the other way round, init? >:E
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Theo on August 16, 2011, 05:56:21 PM
OK I've posed the band recording here (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,7047.msg94556.html#msg94556)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 16, 2011, 06:01:00 PM
OK I've posed the band recording here (http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,7047.msg94556.html#msg94556)  ;D ;D
Grand as owt!  :D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Gary Chapin on August 16, 2011, 07:10:38 PM
Agree that August -- this August in particular -- is really busy.  Sometimes days go by and I find I haven't opened the melodeon!  Also, learning new tunes is kind of a commitment for me.  Only just performed Lemmy Brazil's in front of people for the first time this past weekend!

Still, I agree with Mcgrooger's premise:  we should be posting more.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Martin J on August 16, 2011, 09:21:33 PM
I'm probably looking in the wrong place but has anyone posted a 'how to place a vid clip on youtube'.  I'm good on audio tech but singularly non techy on things like youtube.

Secondly I have a phobia about social networking sites (with good reason from what I read) so my first hurdle is I don't want to identify myself to an organisation like youtube.

Two separate issues I know with the first one being the easiest to overcome.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 16, 2011, 11:12:36 PM
Still, I agree with Mcgrooger's premise:  we should be posting more.

I have some great recently learned tunes that I'm quite keen to post without waiting for them to come up on TOTM, so I'll take that as positive encouragement.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Pete Dunk on August 16, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
Still, I agree with Mcgrooger's premise:  we should be posting more.

I have some great recently learned tunes that I'm quite keen to post without waiting for them to come up on TOTM, so I'll take that as positive encouragement.


Yes, please do!
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Sandy on August 17, 2011, 12:06:09 AM
Still, I agree with Mcgrooger's premise:  we should be posting more.

I have some great recently learned tunes that I'm quite keen to post without waiting for them to come up on TOTM, so I'll take that as positive encouragement.


Yes, please do!

ditto   (:)


perhaps we can have a 'recently learned tunes' section  ???

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Gary Chapin on August 17, 2011, 01:45:33 AM
If you look back, there are a lot of ToTMs and ThoTMs, going way back.  Many tunes would fit into one of those.  I keep adding to the "French Tunes" theme.  I notice Almo has, as well.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Alan Morley on August 17, 2011, 07:23:53 AM
If you look back, there are a lot of ToTMs and ThoTMs, going way back.  Many tunes would fit into one of those.  I keep adding to the "French Tunes" theme.  I notice Almo has, as well.

I occasionally look back on Tune of The Month for before I joined and fancy having a bash at a tune..not everyone joined at the start.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 17, 2011, 08:57:33 AM
perhaps we can have a 'recently learned tunes' section  ???

Isn't this covered by "recordings and videos"?

On the other hand, if we had a place specifically for posting our own (other than TOTM) recordings, it might encourage everyone a bit more.
"Shameless Self-promotion" for the rest of us ?
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: ladydetemps on August 17, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
I do like to subscribe to regular TOTM & ThOTM contributers too...so I can see any other non TOTM music videos.

Anyone have trouble with youtube 'unsubscribing' you from channels randomly?
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: **DTN** on August 17, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
ok ok ..i've done one! (but not time for a vid)  ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Alan Morley on August 17, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Me too - see - Theme of The Month
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on August 17, 2011, 12:29:53 PM
I'm probably looking in the wrong place but has anyone posted a 'how to place a vid clip on youtube'.  I'm good on audio tech but singularly non techy on things like youtube.

Secondly I have a phobia about social networking sites (with good reason from what I read) so my first hurdle is I don't want to identify myself to an organisation like youtube.

Two separate issues I know with the first one being the easiest to overcome.

There's lots of advice round the website about the technical stuff. FWIW I record the vid on my camera, drag it into Windows Live Movie Maker and 'upload' on my account in YouTube. I could probably drag the camera vid straight on but I like to 'trim the edges' first. On your second point, you don't need to reveal your identity to viewers on YouTube - most of us post under pseudonyms - mine's the same as on here. If you do open an account, double check your privacy settings to make sure your email address isn't public - I think mine was at first as I didn't alter the defaults. Look forward to hearing/seeing you soon.  (:)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: ladydetemps on August 17, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
I'm probably looking in the wrong place but has anyone posted a 'how to place a vid clip on youtube'.  I'm good on audio tech but singularly non techy on things like youtube.

Secondly I have a phobia about social networking sites (with good reason from what I read) so my first hurdle is I don't want to identify myself to an organisation like youtube.

Two separate issues I know with the first one being the easiest to overcome.

On your second point, you don't need to reveal your identity to viewers on YouTube - most of us post under pseudonyms - mine's the same as on here. If you do open an account, double check your privacy settings to make sure your email address isn't public - I think mine was at first as I didn't alter the defaults. Look forward to hearing/seeing you soon.  (:)
Just chop your head off or wear a disguise. ;)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 17, 2011, 01:56:43 PM
I'm probably looking in the wrong place but has anyone posted a 'how to place a vid clip on youtube'.  I'm good on audio tech but singularly non techy on things like youtube.

Secondly I have a phobia about social networking sites (with good reason from what I read) so my first hurdle is I don't want to identify myself to an organisation like youtube.

Putting a clip on YouTube is simple once you have the video on your computer, but you do have to open an account with YouTube (which means a Google account now) to be allowed to upload, which is fair enough.

I don't like social networking sites: I gave up on MySpace after a few years and I gave up on Facebook after a couple of weeks, but YouTube isn't like that and I'm quite happy with it. You can send messages, comment on videos, have "friends" and subscribers but... well, melnet is more of a social networking site than YouTube, and we're all apparently comfortable with that. I think all YouTube needs is your email address.

Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Martin J on August 17, 2011, 06:03:10 PM
Thanks Mcgrooger and Anahata.  I was definitely more concerned about the security of Youtube than the tech aspect.  I'll be giving it a go.  Maybe a few weeks as I still have to learn the editing software as well.

Martin
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Sandy on August 18, 2011, 12:55:22 AM
I have total admiration for those who are working and still manage to post TOTM s......amazing !!  8)

I do struggle to play much in the school holidays.  September should be better !....but I want to come up with something in the next week hopefully, even if it's a sound clip.

cheers
Sandy
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 18, 2011, 07:58:05 AM
I have total admiration for those who are working and still manage to post TOTM s......amazing !!  8)

 :|bl flattered as I am (if any of that was supposed to apply to me) I should admit mine is a 4-day job, and my lovely wife having retired feels duty-bound to deal with domestic stuff, and we don't have children young enough to still be living with us...

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I want to come up with something in the next week hopefully, even if it's a sound clip.
I'm looking forward to that.

Incidentally, one of the tunes I need to get out of my system is Mrs Saggs - it's been a bit of a ToTM for me - you've put it on You Tube, someone played it in our Sunday session, then our "English music session" friends in Cambridge, Ontario played it and gave me a rather inaccurate transcription, a melnet discussion was revived last week and finally I had to buy a copy of Andy Cutting's recording.

The other is My Lord Cutt's Delight which came up for discussion on another forum after a YouTube video was spotted of Robert Harbron and friends playing it.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Daddy Long Les on August 18, 2011, 10:46:43 AM
Thanks Mcgrooger and Anahata.  I was definitely more concerned about the security of Youtube than the tech aspect.  I'll be giving it a go.  Maybe a few weeks as I still have to learn the editing software as well.

Martin

YouTube is great.  Just make sure that you edit each video you upload.  I have mine so that comments can only be shown with my approval. Also make sure that you allow videos to be "available on mobile phones and TV".  Otherwise people with iPads won't be able to view them.  I've made loads of friends worldwide via YouTube.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Sandy on August 18, 2011, 11:29:04 AM
Incidentally, one of the tunes I need to get out of my system is Mrs Saggs - it's been a bit of a ToTM for me - you've put it on You Tube, someone played it in our Sunday session, then our "English music session" friends in Cambridge, Ontario played it and gave me a rather inaccurate transcription, a melnet discussion was revived last week and finally I had to buy a copy of Andy Cutting's recording.

I've been playing this recently too. Mine is a long way from the original as I only had the melody after Lester played it R.H. at our Adderbury session a few years ago). So no given chords and I hadn't heard the Cutting arrangement until fairly recently. Part of me is trying to stick with my drone arr. as it's an example of how folk music truly evolves without the use of technology...but how can I not now move towards the Cutting version?..beautiful. (Wood Cutting is one of my favourite CD's)  I now also wish to hear John Kirkpatrick's and Sue Harris's version.

Back on track...might have a 'Mrs Saggs' for duets/collaborations th.o.t.m. soon

cheers
Sandy
 (:)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Anahata on August 18, 2011, 10:37:18 PM
Also posted to the "Mrs Saggs" Thread... as promised:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2LkaxLOw4
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: birchy on September 01, 2011, 11:17:25 AM
I've been lurking here for several months.  I have been promising myself to contribute to TOTM but it is a bit daunting when you haven't been playing very long! 

If and when I do post however, I think one of the reasons for doing it would be to obtain some constructive criticism and suggestions from those posting here.  I think that one problem is that the whole world can see you on youtube and may wonder why you're posting if it's not a terribly accomplished performance!

Anyway, I hope to have a go soon!

David
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: ladydetemps on September 01, 2011, 11:21:57 AM
I've been lurking here for several months.  I have been promising myself to contribute to TOTM but it is a bit daunting when you haven't been playing very long! 

If and when I do post however, I think one of the reasons for doing it would be to obtain some constructive criticism and suggestions from those posting here.  I think that one problem is that the whole world can see you on youtube and may wonder why you're posting if it's not a terribly accomplished performance!

Anyway, I hope to have a go soon!

David
Little tip when you upload look at privacy option. Choose 'Unlisted'. That way only the people who have the direct link can see it.
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Pete Dunk on September 01, 2011, 11:10:08 PM
I've been lurking here for several months.  I have been promising myself to contribute to TOTM but it is a bit daunting when you haven't been playing very long! 

If and when I do post however, I think one of the reasons for doing it would be to obtain some constructive criticism and suggestions from those posting here.  I think that one problem is that the whole world can see you on youtube and may wonder why you're posting if it's not a terribly accomplished performance!

Anyway, I hope to have a go soon!

David

Hello David,

Welcome to the forum. I have 'performance issues' which means I have developed the equivalent of 'stage fright' after spending over thirty years performing in public. It's a silly thing really and incredibly embarrassing. The common sense side of me encourages you to post, the fact that others can see you on Youtube isn't an issue, if the content isn't of interest the viewer will move on. Nobody on this forum will do anything other than post sound advice. O.K. you may not ( >:E) be pronounced a genius on your first post, you may even be told your performance is really poor (that'd be a first) but what you will get is honest, sound advice about your playing and genuine suggestions about how to move things along. Melnet is the home of gentle encouragement  (:)
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: birchy on September 02, 2011, 11:52:10 AM
Thanks!  I'll probably give Oh Joe a go this month. I'll look forward to your comments!

David
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on September 05, 2011, 12:49:02 PM
Thanks!  I'll probably give Oh Joe a go this month. I'll look forward to your comments!

David
Good lad, Birchy! ;D
Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Kautilya on September 07, 2011, 11:48:02 PM
Thanks!  I'll probably give Oh Joe a go this month. I'll look forward to your comments!

David
Good lad, Birchy! ;D
In response to the  call across the Glens, here is a mixed bag (high quality of course) which was a special toong (song and tune)performance for two Japanese housewives from Tokyo visiting London and who stepped by chance into The George’s September’s Squeeze and Scrape and were warmly welcomed by Chris Shaw our melodeon-leader host.

As we were only 100 yards from the Thames the toong chosen for them was a no-brainer. Words dug out of the bag were passed around for folk to sing along and several punters joined in (indeed one seems to try to take over the toong!) and much fun was had by all.

It is partly a response to June’s TOTM of duets or more, and you may be able to pick out  (despite fact mic has caused some waxing and waning) two melodeons (incl a Liliput), one tina, an accordion, bass sax, a unique, handbuilt, modern “mediaeval guitar, tin whistle and tambour, clarinet, about five violins and perhaps the regular cello and one of our two regular hurdy gurdies.

Perhaps a Zoom2 would avoid the waxing and waning.

As per Theo’s thorts, it gained by being quite unplanned and the Japanese were enraptured and could not stop bowing.
Sound only - no pics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spUeZGnXW8k



Title: Re: Come on Melnetters!
Post by: Mcgrooger on September 08, 2011, 03:38:23 PM
@Kautilya - you'll probably get more people to hear it if  you put it on ThOTM or 'Recordings and Videos'. Mcg.