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Title: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Clive Williams on December 01, 2011, 12:15:24 AM
Blimey! It finally won!  :D

Ladies and gentlemen, easily the most obscure TOTM winner yet, but a lovely little tune if ever I heard one!

It's a traditional An Dro from Brittany adapted by Yann Fanch Perroches, and here's a link to a lovely version of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmy8Jl-7aZA

Yann-Fañch says:

Quote
It’s an adaptation I did of a song by the band « les ours du Scorff », but this song comes from a traditional tune…
Corinne and Denis playing on the video
Not sure of the original name… I call it « Inna inna ! »
East Brittany dialect (Gallo) for : "There is some, there is some !"

I'm sure if we ask very nicely, some kind soul will be along in a bit with an ABC transcription! In the meantime, my thoughts and observations after giving it a quick playthrough yesterday; it'll play on a one row without basses, but fitting basses in is a little more challenging (you'll note the video isn't a lot of help here, since its solution is 'play with a guitarist'). On a D/G, I ended up playing it in the lower register in G (i.e. inside row), though there was a fair amount of row crossing going on to get the chords I wanted. The chords also seem quite ambiguous in that there's *lots* of different sequences that work, and none of them are obviously better than the others. Once you get it going though, it's *lovely*.

Happy days!

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Ellisteph on December 01, 2011, 08:03:59 AM
Oh well my vote didn't win this month. But - I have been known to eat rabbit stew in Winter....
Maybe I'll try 'Rabbit inna stew!'
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Sandy on December 01, 2011, 10:45:26 AM
Blimey! It finally won!  :D

Happy days!

Clive

...and how many votes did you allow yourself Clive ?  ;D

I didn't vote for this but I'm secretly pleased...

Sandy  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Simon on December 01, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
I'm sure if we ask very nicely, some kind soul will be along in a bit with an ABC transcription!
In the meantime here's something:
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Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Strigulino on December 01, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
If no-one else gets onto an ABC in the meantime I'll try and work the notes out at the very least this evening
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Simon on December 01, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
If no-one else gets onto an ABC in the meantime I'll try and work the notes out at the very least this evening
Um... did I post the wrong tune?  ???
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Mcgrooger on December 01, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
Here's my early attempt. I'm afraid that playing it hasn't won me over to the tune or cured me of my reprehensible musical francophobia! I recorded the vid after dark, hence the weird colours. It's on my Saltarelle L'Elfique with the low register taken out in the right hand as leaving it in was taking too much air with the bellows moving out for ages. The thirds are out on the left hand and I'd say that the D chord is an implied minor rather than major. I kept the tune in C/Am despite my box being D/G. I've no doubt Clive et al will come up with killer versions of this tune but I'm afraid it still doesn't do much for me - soz!  :|bl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43pMQi9ssk
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 01, 2011, 07:24:28 PM
In the meantime here's something:
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An excellent start!
I've detailed some of the variations in an alternate stave in the second line, and added chords based on a compromise between what the guitar was playing and what's possible on a melodeon.

One for the Dino with thirds out, I think.

X: 0
T: Inna Inna
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
%%staves [1]
|:"C"e3gg2g2|"Em"e2dce2e2|"C"e3gg2g2|"Em"e2dc"Am"A4:|
%%staves [ 1 2 ]
V:1
|:"Am"A2ceA2A2|A2ce"D"A4|"Am"A2cd"Em"e3e|"G"d2c2"Am"A4:|
V:2
|:A2ceA2A2|A2ce d4|d2cde3e|d2dcA2E2:|

In case you can't render ABC plus properly: image attached

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 01, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
I kept the tune in C/Am despite my box being D/G.

I plan to do it in that key on a D/G box - but I suppose I should try on a G/C too...
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Bobtheboat on December 01, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
Anahata, a G/C version would be very much appreciated! Bob.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: folkbluesnbeyond on December 01, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnWmxkNPXQ

Leaving variations and complex harmony for bears of greater brain to explore.

All the best

Bill
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 01, 2011, 08:56:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnWmxkNPXQ

Leaving variations and complex harmony for bears of greater brain to explore.

But a lovely sounding arrangement all the same, with the added guitar and mandolin.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Clive Williams on December 02, 2011, 12:52:42 AM
Well, I don't know about 'killer version'  :D ...  but this is what came out when I first started messing around it with the other night, a slightly slowed down version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTZcuT9Nyc

It's played on a Castagnari Giasco I in D/G, yes, with unisonoric basses, but you don't need unisonoric to do most of this stuff here other than the occasional underlying bass chord drone that I hear in it as I play it back now; it can be played on a 8 bass. It's played on the lower register in G mostly, crossing the rows for the Em chords.

For info, and it's impossible to follow on the video because the chord buttons are in places you don't expect, the chords used here are roughly:

A music: G-G-Em-Em-G-G-Em/D-C
B music: C-C-Am-Am-C-C-C/D-Em

Cheers,

Clive
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Larry on December 02, 2011, 10:18:16 AM
Good one Clive. thanks and another fine accordéon
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: pikey on December 02, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
Here's my early attempt. It's on my Saltarelle L'Elfique with the low register taken out in the right hand as leaving it in was taking too much air with the bellows moving out for ages.  :|bl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43pMQi9ssk

Wow - good attempt!  I think we shoudl call this the 'Charles Atlas' tune though, because the bellows extension looks just like a bullworker!

(please don't kick sand in my face....)   :'(
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Nige Rivers on December 02, 2011, 11:08:18 AM
Well, I don't know about 'killer version'  :D ...  but this is what came out when I first started messing around it with the other night, a slightly slowed down version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kTZcuT9Nyc

And it's my kind of version, just beautifully played  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Martin J on December 02, 2011, 12:25:51 PM
If no-one else gets onto an ABC in the meantime I'll try and work the notes out at the very least this evening
Um... did I post the wrong tune?  ???
No, perfectly correct but I must say that when I saw your abc I thought something must be missing - it isn't, the tune is just sparse !

Thanks for the abc Simon
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Fred Holden on December 03, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
I'm really enjoying this thread, guys, especially your slowed down version, Clive.
 I was playing around with it on Friday, I'll put up a vid of me playing it on my d/g (I will change the key from C though) tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Andy Next Tune on December 03, 2011, 12:45:49 PM
Addictive little tune, currently lodged firmly in my ear after watching the videos.
Now need to persuade it to visit the fingers.......
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: joreema on December 03, 2011, 06:42:20 PM
Recorded just before dinner. Played while a family session. Noone seems to be happy because everyone is hungry, but nevertheless I did my this month tune. And I promise the children wanted to record this tune. :||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UT4J1uPXaVQ

Sorry for the bad sound.

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Mcgrooger on December 04, 2011, 12:23:07 PM
Recorded just before dinner. Played while a family session. Noone seems to be happy because everyone is hungry, but nevertheless I did my this month tune. And I promise the children wanted to record this tune. :||:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UT4J1uPXaVQ

Sorry for the bad sound.


Tremendous! You and your family really brought this tune to life.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Kautilya on December 04, 2011, 11:05:46 PM
Yann-Fanch says:

I like very much the story of this tune been taught some years ago at a workshop and then played by Corinne and Denis at a fest-noz, then picked up by one of you guys on youtube... and since living it's own life!
 
I like the different versions I found on youtube after it was nominated "tune of the month", especially the one by Clive Williams, even if not very suitable for dancing :-) But nice chords and atmosphere!
 
So I send you my own versions of the tune (score / tab) and also a quick recording (sorry, bad sound - no time to do better) as a truly "tour".
As I deleted quite a lot of notes of the original tune, added some 'syncopes' and also kind of jazzy chords, I feel quite like I was the composer of this "Inna Inna"! ;)
 
Cheers to the all of you happy squeezeboxers,
 
Yann-Fanch
 end of message
**********

The attachments won't attach as the sound is 880kb in wma and the score is a gif so you may have to wait until I have the political will to sort em out or perhaps Clive can sort them and I can email them to him.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Clive Williams on December 04, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
Try these links for the files from Yann Fanch:

Music score (http://forum.melodeon.net/files/inna inna.gif)

and

Sound file (http://forum.melodeon.net/files/inna inna.wma) (which is just lovely by the way!)

 (:)

Clive

PS: A quick play through later, and I think the score's set for a G/C, whereas the sound file is played on an A/D - if you're struggling to play along, that's why!  :D

The melodeon tab: the P line means push, the T line means pull. The number is a button number assuming 3rd position start, and with a little quote above it means inside row, without outside row.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Nige Rivers on December 05, 2011, 10:16:50 AM
The melodeon tab: the P line means push, the T line means pull. The number is a button number assuming 3rd position start, and with a little quote above it means inside row, without outside row.
[/quote]


That's intereesting, do you know the software that has been used to produce this combination of score and button reference?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Lyra on December 05, 2011, 04:35:48 PM
I'd guess Tabledit (http://tabledit.com/ (http://tabledit.com/))
You can have this type of tab (CADB version) or the other one that P&N use in their books - whichever you choose, for the bargain price of €50 (I think)
There's a free demo version but I think you can't load the melodeon ("accordeon") module, at least on a Mac, or I am very stupid or both (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Computer/computer6.gif)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Fred Holden on December 05, 2011, 06:50:43 PM
Here we are, as promised!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxgBp809PM
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: **DTN** on December 05, 2011, 08:31:31 PM
Here we are, as promised!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxgBp809PM

I really liked that version.. nicely played!! ... tune is now warming to me  :D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Peter Savage on December 06, 2011, 03:45:02 PM
Here we are, as promised!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxgBp809PM
Very nice Fredrick, thank you.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Bobtheboat on December 06, 2011, 05:49:41 PM
Great! Well done.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: GPS on December 06, 2011, 06:47:02 PM
Some lovely performances, but I'm afraid the tune still does nothing for me.  Wouldn't do if we all liked the same things, though, would it?  ;D
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Nige Rivers on December 07, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
Here we are, as promised!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZxgBp809PM

Do like this, you've bought some life to it  (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Fred Holden on December 07, 2011, 05:49:53 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys  :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 07, 2011, 09:24:10 PM
Here's my attempt at this, complete with a seamless edit where I totally cocked up the end, played the last bit again and stitched it together, but also copious fluffed notes elsewehere... I assure it is possible to play this tune on the basses, just not when the camera is on  :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kQVPkfltU

Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: docEdock on December 10, 2011, 09:47:56 AM
... I assure it is possible to play this tune on the basses, just not when the camera is on  :Ph


The bass was terrific. I had no idea it was even possible. Thanks for this example.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: docEdock on December 10, 2011, 10:05:27 AM
Try these links for the files from Yann Fanch:

Music score (http://forum.melodeon.net/files/inna inna.gif)


In the score, is the rhythm of the B part's first measure slightly off? I ask because I can't get the beats in that measure to add up to 4/4. Should the fifth note in that measure (an A) be a sixteenth rather than an eighth note? If not can someone elaborate on how the measure should be interpreted rhythmically?

When I listen to the recording it makes sense, but using a metronome and trying to count out that first measure in the B part has me stumped.
Doc
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 10, 2011, 10:13:39 AM
There's obviously a note missing. Try making the second half of that bar the same as the first half.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: GPS on December 10, 2011, 02:08:58 PM
Actually, that bar's a bit ambiguous:  if you look carefully, you'll see that the lower beam on note 6 (the "c" semiquaver) doesn't quite reach the stem of note 7.  I guess Anahata may well be right - it's probably an inaccuracy in the setting, there's a note missing and the two halves of the bar are the same; but if you read note 7 as a quaver rather than a semiquaver, then you do get a bar of 4/4, albeit interestingly syncopated and a little unconventionally notated. Perhaps I'd better listen to what the man actually plays! :D

Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Kautilya on December 10, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
Here's my attempt at this, complete with a seamless edit where I totally cocked up the end, played the last bit again and stitched it together, but also copious fluffed notes elsewehere... I assure it is possible to play this tune on the basses, just not when the camera is on  :Ph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kQVPkfltU


Much appreciated slow version Frederick for us less nimbled-fingered. ;)

Anahata -- yr faster one would have em dancing down la rue, and, even more important, such immaculate visual fingering video recording for the viewer -- a model example to be copied for all youtubes.  (:).
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: docEdock on December 10, 2011, 03:38:23 PM
Actually, that bar's a bit ambiguous:  if you look carefully, you'll see that the lower beam on note 6 (the "c" semiquaver) doesn't quite reach the stem of note 7. 

Graham

Ah, I read that as a misprint rather than as an intended 16th note. Calling it a 16th does solve the problem of the beats. I still can't figure out how to play that rhythm against a metronome but perhaps it will come. My old standby of counting "One And A" or as they say around here, "Da, chick, dum", isn't up to it.

There's obviously a note missing. Try making the second half of that bar the same as the first half.

Good advice. I'll do that and work on the as written version to be a variation, perhaps against a reggae beat?
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: PaulM on December 10, 2011, 04:05:20 PM
Tahts a really clever bit of work on the basses ..must give it a try ...thanks
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: GPS on December 10, 2011, 10:22:33 PM
Ah, I read that as a misprint rather than as an intended 16th note. Calling it a 16th does solve the problem of the beats. I still can't figure out how to play that rhythm against a metronome but perhaps it will come. My old standby of counting "One And A" or as they say around here, "Da, chick, dum", isn't up to it.

To be honest, I think it may be a misprint; it would be a fiendish syncopation and I can't really believe anyone would deliberately write it into a tune. It's probably pure coincidence that the misprints produce a mathematically correct but virtually unplayable bar!

Cheers
Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 11, 2011, 09:32:54 AM
If you view that pair of notes as a semiquaver and a quaver (sixteenth and eighth note) it doesn't mathematically add up to a bar of 4/4.

Either make it two quavers (good idea as alternative / variation) or add the A to make it same as beginning of bar. The latter is, if I remember correctly, what's played in  the video linked at top of thread.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: GPS on December 11, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
If you view that pair of notes as a semiquaver and a quaver (sixteenth and eighth note) it doesn't mathematically add up to a bar of 4/4.

Sorry, but it does; reading the notes along and giving each one its value in semiquavers, you get 2+1+1+3+2+1+2+3+1 = 16.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Anahata on December 11, 2011, 01:04:55 PM
Dang it, you're right! I didn't spot that the fifth note was a quaver.
My apologies  :|bl
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: GPS on December 11, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
No apologies necessary! I'm sure it's a misprint anyway, and the resultant bar is such a dog's breakfast it's not easy to make any kind of sense of it.  Certainly the way it's played in that clip is exactly as you describe, with two similar phrases, so I guess that's the way it's supposed to go.  Either way up, I'm still not keen on it, so I won't be losing sleep over it!

Graham
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Sandy on December 12, 2011, 10:10:28 AM
Here's my attempt at this, complete with a seamless edit where I totally cocked up the end, played the last bit again and stitched it together, but also copious fluffed notes elsewehere... I assure it is possible to play this tune on the basses, just not when the camera is on  :Ph   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kQVPkfltU

Wow!  :o

I know ... I called a taxi !   :D

 (:)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Jackhumphreys on December 12, 2011, 03:43:35 PM
Couldn't  let a Breton TOTM go by without putting in my two centimes.
I liked Y-F P's jazzing it a bit, and then Joreema's family band's jauntiness, so here is a warts and all improvisation. I've really enjoyed this little tune, definitely into the session repertoire.  http://youtu.be/9ycxRQoWzy4 (http://youtu.be/9ycxRQoWzy4)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: SteveC on December 17, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
Quote
I liked Y-F P's jazzing it a bit, and then Joreema's family band's jauntiness, so here is a warts and all improvisation. I've really enjoyed this little tune, definitely into the session repertoire.  http://youtu.be/9ycxRQoWzy4

Wow Jack. I like your jazzing around. You've really captured the spirit of this tune. Love it!
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: docEdock on December 17, 2011, 11:52:46 AM
I liked Y-F P's jazzing it a bit, and then Joreema's family band's jauntiness, so here is a warts and all improvisation. I've really enjoyed this little tune, definitely into the session repertoire.  http://youtu.be/9ycxRQoWzy4 (http://youtu.be/9ycxRQoWzy4)

That was lovely. The improvisation made me rethink how to play this tune. Thanks for the inspiration.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Jackhumphreys on December 17, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
Many thanks Doc and Steve. Without your appreciation of my contribution,  I would just be a sad showoff!   A merry Memnoon to you, and to Ollie  and Mr J, too for youtube comments.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: labradornl on December 27, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Here's my attempt at Inna, Inna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3hdIpVMyZI
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Andy in Vermont on December 29, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kQVPkfltU

Bravo! 
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Nige Rivers on December 29, 2011, 05:22:38 PM
Here we go, first constructive thing I've attempted after putting my back out AGAIN!!! just prior to Christmas.

http://youtu.be/VVudUAgnxS8

Have a great new year everyone.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: student I on December 30, 2011, 12:59:17 AM
http://youtu.be/3PBJeUlBdu8
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: student I on December 30, 2011, 01:01:19 AM
Better late than never? http://youtu.be/3PBJeUlBdu8
and http://youtu.be/ZmjGZlI7HxI when it's finished uploading... due at about 3pm 30th Dec.


Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: tjsmithdog5 on December 30, 2011, 08:19:43 PM
Curiously difficult tune for me to get right. I kept hoping it would become smoother as the month wore on, but it never did. However, here it is:

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKPI3P3zjY&feature=youtu.b (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKPI3P3zjY&feature=youtu.b)
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: docEdock on December 31, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
I put my version here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItRmEiprfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItRmEiprfo). Each contribution by others changed how I heard this tune, so thanks. This was my first venture away from oom pah base and my fingers are still dizzy.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: Clive Williams on January 01, 2012, 01:50:42 AM
End of the month folks, but you know the score by now - late contributions are always welcome; just post them here.
Title: Re: Tune of the Month for December 2011: Inna Inna
Post by: matt vrs on July 20, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
Three voices, two birds, one stone, two and a half years after the event http://youtu.be/Kysz-nju1NY.