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"Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« on: November 05, 2012, 07:51:44 PM »

Is this genuine - the pokerwork and body looks a bit "different"?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hohner-D-G-Melodeon-/150941161571?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 07:53:28 PM »

Looks like a Saxony pokerworkalike to me , there are quite a few different ones - it`d be interesting to see what it`s like inside and how it sounds / plays .
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 07:55:03 PM »

Looks like a Saxony pokerworkalike to me , there are quite a few different ones - it`d be interesting to see what it`s like inside and how it sounds / plays .

Someone will have to travel to Kettering to find out!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 07:56:49 PM »

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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 08:53:30 PM »

The one in the original post looks to be a Weltmeister.

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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 09:03:39 PM »

The one in the original post looks to be a Weltmeister.

Rob.

Similar maybe, but not branded so may not be up to Weltmeister quality.   Almost certainly from the GDR era when some of the worst boxes were made.  They can be even worse to play than the cheapest Chinese boxes being produced today.  Can also be ok, but a wise buyer will arrange to try before bidding.
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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 09:36:21 PM »

I've got this back from the seller:

"Hello,
We had researched the instrument and believed it to be a Hohner. It has a very small plate on the back saying 'Made in German Democratic Republic'. I do not wish to make any attempt to dismantle it and risk damaging it. As stated, we inherited the instrument and have no detailed knowledge beyond the research we carried out.
Hope this helps.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 07:24:06 AM »

Well that says it all . they`ve looked into it and because its goldbrand "it`s a hohner" despite being made in the GDR .. I guess the next move is for someone to tell them "it`s not a Hohner and if you persist in selling it as Hohner then don`t be suprised if you get it back". 
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 07:37:41 AM »

I've sent them a link to this thread.
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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »

A while ago a friend gave me one of these to try and to see if I could improve the response. I can honestly say it was the worse melodeon I have ever played. The reeds were stiff and unresponsive and fitted with thick leather valves. Changing a couple of the valves to vinyl didn't make much difference. The reeds were still unresponsive and with a relatively large gap around the reed tongue, used a lot of air for not much sound.

The action was heavily sprung and noisy. The interior casework looked as if it had been made of old orange boxes and which had never even seen a single sheet of sandpaper.

Altogether very horrid and as much use as a chocolate fireguard. I think it could have gone on the fire without a moment's hesitation.
The only thing really worth salvaging was the bellows which weren't too bad and could have been usefully converted into a tuning bellows.

My friend got rid of the instrument soon after (and bought a PA  :o, but that's another story).

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 10:47:37 PM »

A while ago a friend gave me one of these to try and to see if I could improve the response. I can honestly say it was the worse melodeon I have ever played. The reeds were stiff and unresponsive and fitted with thick leather valves. Changing a couple of the valves to vinyl didn't make much difference. The reeds were still unresponsive and with a relatively large gap around the reed tongue, used a lot of air for not much sound.

The action was heavily sprung and noisy. The interior casework looked as if it had been made of old orange boxes and which had never even seen a single sheet of sandpaper.

Altogether very horrid and as much use as a chocolate fireguard. I think it could have gone on the fire without a moment's hesitation.
The only thing really worth salvaging was the bellows which weren't too bad and could have been usefully converted into a tuning bellows.

My friend got rid of the instrument soon after (and bought a PA  :o, but that's another story).

Avoid these instruments like the plague!

Agreed..... I one bought one of these  :|bl

But only for 75 quid as I needed a decent set of bellows for a proper old hohner restoration, and the ones on these GDR boxes do the job quite nicely!. Most of the rest got stripped and kept for spares, or binned!
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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 11:46:00 PM »

A while ago a friend gave me one of these to try and to see if I could improve the response. I can honestly say it was the worse melodeon I have ever played. The reeds were stiff and unresponsive and fitted with thick leather valves. Changing a couple of the valves to vinyl didn't make much difference. The reeds were still unresponsive and with a relatively large gap around the reed tongue, used a lot of air for not much sound.

The action was heavily sprung and noisy. The interior casework looked as if it had been made of old orange boxes and which had never even seen a single sheet of sandpaper.

Altogether very horrid and as much use as a chocolate fireguard. I think it could have gone on the fire without a moment's hesitation.
The only thing really worth salvaging was the bellows which weren't too bad and could have been usefully converted into a tuning bellows.

My friend got rid of the instrument soon after (and bought a PA  :o, but that's another story).

Avoid these instruments like the plague!

I agree, Steve. Neil had one identical to this, think he'd paid about £50 for it - horrible, and the buttons kept getting caught under the fingerboard, so unplayable to me. Certainly not a Hohner - nothing like, in finish.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 12:36:08 AM »

And if they break a spring you might as well just salvage the few parts that might be useful one day and bin what's left  :(

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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 07:51:09 AM »

The one in the original post looks to be a Weltmeister.

Rob.

Similar maybe, but not branded so may not be up to Weltmeister quality.   Almost certainly from the GDR era when some of the worst boxes were made.  They can be even worse to play than the cheapest Chinese boxes being produced today.  Can also be ok, but a wise buyer will arrange to try before bidding.

Not that everything Weltmeister produced back then was great, either. I once bought one of those big red celluloid Weltmeisters with white buttons. It was left near mint for a reason - the worst accordion I've ever played.

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Re: "Hohner"? Pokerwork on e-bay
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 05:10:57 PM »

This one really IS a Hohner but is badged Beaver ..... Confusing aint it  ;D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BEAVER-BUTTON-ACCORDION-ACCORDIAN-/251179221991?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item3a7b72c3e7

can anyone shed any light on why this goes under the guise of 'Beaver Brand'? :|glug
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 06:00:09 PM »

It is one of several "own brands" that Hohner made instruments for.
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