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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2013, 03:37:06 PM »

Waltzing Matilda isn't celtic  ;)

No, it's from the south-east of England....... ;D

NO!, your thinking of Walking the Bulldog.
 e.g " up came a vagabond to camp by the Lilly pond under the shade of an old Oak tree" Etc.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2013, 06:04:05 PM »

Waltzing Matilda isn't celtic  ;)

No, it's from the south-east of England....... ;D

See Wikipedia :
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[ Banjo ] Paterson wrote the piece while staying at the Dagworth Homestead, a bush station in Queensland. While he was there his hosts played him a Celtic folk tune called "The Craigielee" and Paterson decided that it would be a good piece to set lyrics to, producing them during the rest of his stay.

The tune is probably based on the Scottish song "Thou Bonnie Wood of Craigielea"

So it is (partly) Celtic!

Then:
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There is also speculation about the relationship the song bears to "The Bold Fusilier" (a.k.a. "Marching through Rochester"),
So that's the South East England connection ?
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2013, 06:12:58 PM »

Waltzing Matilda isn't celtic  ;)

No, it's from the south-east of England....... ;D

See Wikipedia :
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[ Banjo ] Paterson wrote the piece while staying at the Dagworth Homestead, a bush station in Queensland. While he was there his hosts played him a Celtic folk tune called "The Craigielee" and Paterson decided that it would be a good piece to set lyrics to, producing them during the rest of his stay.

The tune is probably based on the Scottish song "Thou Bonnie Wood of Craigielea"

So it is (partly) Celtic!

Then:
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There is also speculation about the relationship the song bears to "The Bold Fusilier" (a.k.a. "Marching through Rochester"),
So that's the South East England connection ?

Yes - that's the version I know as "the original" - but hey, we could all be wrong!
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2013, 06:42:39 PM »

A gay fusilier came marching down through Rochester
Bound for the wars in the low countries
And he sang as he marched through
The crowded streets of Rochester
Who'll be a soldier for Marlborough and me?

Who'll be a soldier, who'll be a soldier
Who'll be a soldier for Marlborough and me?
And he sang as he marched through
The crowded streets of Rochester
Who'll be a soldier for Marlborough and me?

 :||: :||: >:E
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2013, 07:07:37 PM »

A gay fusilier came marching down through Rochester
Bound for the wars in the low countries
And he played his melodeon  through
The crowded streets of Rochester, singing
"Who'll be a soldier for Marlborough and me?"

Trying hard not to make any comments about GAY fusiliers  >:E  :|||:
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2013, 08:25:42 PM »

The Rochester Recruiting Sargent was written by Pete Coe.

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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2013, 09:59:26 PM »

The Rochester Recruiting Sargent was written by Pete Coe.

There was one collected/known verse and Pete Coe wrote the rest of it.
I'm not sure whether the original verse was known to have that tune or not.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2013, 10:08:42 PM »

Trying hard not to make any comments about GAY fusiliers  >:E  :|||:

Now that isn't worthy of a reply.  >:(
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2013, 10:42:22 PM »

I seem to have raised a discussion about Waltzing Mat. Meanwhile, so far, I seem to be committing myself. My taste in music is wide but I was trying to cover myself against going down a cul de sac and restricting myself to English Country Music by buying a D/G. The original reference to celtic was because my mother having been Irish many of the tunes from my childhood are also Irish. I go dancing with the CCC so the opportunities for joining in with a bit of music are often present though I would not even attempt such a thing for some time yet, if ever. But the availability of teaching aids and the like in D/G seem to almost push one down this way. This is not a problem if one can find a cheapish box to start on. Then one can always change later without much financial problems.
Thank you Theo for the pointer. I had avoided eBay because of the pitfalls for one with as little knowledge as me and sticking with the shops where the prices were not cheap. But now I have already enquired about possibilities there though so far without reply. I think the carriage problem could be overcome by, say, UPS but whether the seller will agree is something else.

My mention of those other tunes was from my memories of a small book called the 'YHA Song Book'. I could easily have said 'Abdul the Bulbul Ameer' or many others. It hardly matters as all such songs nearly all started somewhere on these islands.

I am still in the market for a useable D/G at a reasonable price. Somewhere around Gtr Manchester, M62 corridor is favourite.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2013, 11:25:39 PM »

I am still in the market for a useable D/G at a reasonable price. Somewhere around Gtr Manchester, M62 corridor is favourite.

Cleckheaton is reachable them. The Music Room might have a nice second hand bargain.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2013, 11:37:57 PM »

If you can get to The Music Room from the M62 in less than two minutes you will probably be done for speeding. If it takes you more than three minutes you may well be had up for obstruction . . .
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2013, 09:37:45 AM »

The Music Room seems like a great shop. They have a good web site that lists s/h melodeons. Their cheapest D/G is £900
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2013, 10:25:25 AM »

Can't remember what has gone before, and don't have time to look, but Theo has a Erica for half that. Good box.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2013, 11:41:23 AM »

Can't remember what has gone before, and don't have time to look, but Theo has a Erica for half that. Good box.

That looks like a lovely beginner box.  With a box like that, particularly with a receipt showing it has been bought from/overhauled by Theo or any of the other respected fettlers of this parish you are likely to get your money back if you decide this whole melodeon lark isn't for you after all and decide to sell it on.


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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2013, 11:45:54 AM »


I am still in the market for a useable D/G at a reasonable price. Somewhere around Gtr Manchester, M62 corridor is favourite.

This Delicia DG is still on ebay at £150 buy it now.  Excellent box at a bargain price, can't imagine why it hasn't been snapped up.  New they are between four and five hundred. 
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2013, 12:13:05 PM »

Yes. If the Delicia was in range I would buy it, but Cambridge is a long way away and he hasn't replied so I assume that he really means 'personal collection only'.
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Re: from the beginning
« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2013, 09:21:16 PM »

Yes, I have had a reply to my message. The Delicia is absolutely 'Collection Only".
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