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[mac]

note 6 and upwards most of the time, is this a bad habit?
I think it comes from playing anglo concertina years ago  and that the lower notes are on the left hand on that instrument.

[Lester]

Depends on the key of your instrument. If you play D/G it will be a bit squeaky especially on the G Row. But for G/C it is the normal playing position. I learned on a 1 Row so the 2nd octave was my "normal" playing position which I had to relearn when moving to 2 row (D/G)

[mac]

Depends on the key of your instrument. If you play D/G it will be a bit squeaky especially on the G Row. But for G/C it is the normal playing position. I learned on a 1 Row so the 2nd octave was my "normal" playing position which I had to relearn when moving to 2 row (D/G)

I am playing a one row in G.. hmm..

[Theo]

Makes sense, it is an octave below the G row of a DG.

[Lester]

Depends on the key of your instrument. If you play D/G it will be a bit squeaky especially on the G Row. But for G/C it is the normal playing position. I learned on a 1 Row so the 2nd octave was my "normal" playing position which I had to relearn when moving to 2 row (D/G)

I am playing a one row in G.. hmm..

That's where I started and in the second octave, good luck 

[Chris Ryall]

Frédéric Paris plays in the second octave.  AFAIK Andy Cutting's 'Flatworld' plays there (that's where i play it). So don't worry. The D/G is horribly squeaky up there - but we Brits are the outliers playing the low end. As Lester says, the rest of the world play in the middle of the instrument.

[911377brian]

Do'nt think anything sounds squeeky on a one row in G does it? Lovely key to play in..

[Graham Spencer]

Do'nt think anything sounds squeeky on a one row in G does it?

No - but it can be a challenge to keep the air supply constant (at least it is on my well-worn old Hohner). 

[911377brian]

@ GPS.. I find keeping the air supply constant more difficult on my A box,[Hohner 1040] but Microbot seems to have worked his magic on the G [Hohner 1040]...

[Graham Spencer]

@ GPS.. I find keeping the air supply constant more difficult on my A box,[Hohner 1040] but Microbot seems to have worked his magic on the G [Hohner 1040]...

I've got an ancient C 1040 which is scheduled for some rebuilding, and the air management on that is not too bad despite the extensive wear on the poor old thing; my air-hungry G 1-row is a 4-voice 1140, which for some reason best known to Hohner has a 16-fold bellows as opposed to the 18-fold one on my C 1140.

Graham

[Christopher K.]

Depends on the key of your instrument. If you play D/G it will be a bit squeaky especially on the G Row. But for G/C it is the normal playing position. I learned on a 1 Row so the 2nd octave was my "normal" playing position which I had to relearn when moving to 2 row (D/G)

Yup. I play G/C most often but make a conscious effort to play tunes in both octaves (cross-row and one-row style) just to be in shape on other tunings, like my C/Fs.

[brianread]

I often play alternately on the low and high octaves, especially when in "D". My 4th button start with no accidentals gives me a full octave under the 4th button in both D and G, so I can often "drone" along under the other instruments, but join them at other times in the tune.

[mac]

Ah its good to know I am not alone in playing this way then.!

[george garside]

if there are two octaves available its daft not to   be able to play in  both of them   irrespective of number of rows or whether cross rowing or on rowing
 
george

[mac]

if there are two octaves available its daft not to   be able to play in  both of them   irrespective of number of rows or whether cross rowing or on rowing
 
george

Yes it is so, but my hand and hearing tells me "play higher up!"
The first octave just doesn't feel as comfortable to play in. I don't know why maybe its just me?

[EastAnglianTed]

Personally, I prefer the lower octave. On my D/G and B/C I just feel the bass end compliments it better. 

[Lester]

Just for clarity's sake as there seems to me to be some confusion here:

1 Rows, especially those in G, are 'usually' played in the second octave as they lack the notes, in the lower octave, usually picked from the outside row (low D and E on a D/G) which are necessary for many tunes. Also, as noted by Theo, the G 1 row as it is pitched an octave lower than the G row on a D/G so, with the L reed sounding a further octave down, it is very low and air hungry in the 1st octave.

So it is 'usual' to play 1 rows in the second octave, D/Gs in the first octave. But you you should still be able to play either in both.

Hope that helps

[george garside]

Just for clarity's sake as there seems to me to be some confusion here:

 . But you you should still be able to play either in both.

Hope that helps

thats what I was getting at  . On some tunes on a standard 21 button Dg there are insufficient low notes to play eg the B part of a tune  ( e.g Oh   dem golden slippers)  if one is fluent over the whole length of the box it is easy to nip up to the higher octave for the B part.  Also jumping up to the higher octave for the B part of some tunes can sound very effective even if the whole job could be done at the lower end.     

another effect to be had is to play selected   alternate bars high and low   eg in winster gallop  the first 2 bars of the B part can be played low middle or high  so a nice effect can be had by playing the 1st bar (B part) as normal  and the 2nd bar low OR high

There are of course some who can play in both octaves but don't realise they are so doing  as the tune spans both eg soldiers joy!
george

[mac]

Just for clarity's sake as there seems to me to be some confusion here:

1 Rows, especially those in G, are 'usually' played in the second octave as they lack the notes, in the lower octave, usually picked from the outside row (low D and E on a D/G) which are necessary for many tunes. Also, as noted by Theo, the G 1 row as it is pitched an octave lower than the G row on a D/G so, with the L reed sounding a further octave down, it is very low and air hungry in the 1st octave.

So it is 'usual' to play 1 rows in the second octave, D/Gs in the first octave. But you you should still be able to play either in both.

Hope that helps

Clears it up nicely for me.. I did go looking for those low E notes when I first got my melodeon, just to find they were only there higher up.