Melodeon.net Forums

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Welcome to the new melodeon.net forum

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Paolos again  (Read 2636 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Stiamh

  • Old grey C#/D pest
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3541
    • Packie Manus Byrne
Paolos again
« on: December 08, 2008, 02:22:38 AM »

Does anybody know when the red 9-coupler models were introduced? Although I thought they were more recent, they must have been out by 1969, if the date of the photo of Kevin Keegan's model on this page is correct: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sean_quinn/psoprani/psoprani5.htm

I ask because someone brought one to show me the other day. It was a D/D# - she had been given it :o by an Irish colleague after she expressed a whim to learn the box! The basses were tuned to go with the D# row, which I wasn't expecting.

It had a real Joe Cooley sound to it but was leaking air like crazy with a lot of notes not sounding. She said, funny, it was working quite well when I got it a few weeks ago. Removal of the bellows pins revealed that about a dozen reed plates had fallen off and more were about to follow suit. Did you leave it in a very cold or very hot place? Oh... er, maybe!

The couplers were very stiff and generally difficult to operate. Is this fixable? On the only other similar box I've tried the couplers were completely jammed and you had no choice but to play with all four voices.

george garside

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5401
Re: Paolos again
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 08:59:36 AM »

Does anybody know when the red 9-coupler models were introduced? Although I thought they were more recent, they must have been out by 1969, if the date of the photo of Kevin Keegan's model on this page is correct: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sean_quinn/psoprani/psoprani5.htm

I had one of these in DD#  in if I remember correctly about 1960/61

george
 ]
Logged
author of DG tutor book "DG Melodeon a Crash Course for Beginners".

an bosca ceoil

  • Respected Sage
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 347
Re: Paolos again
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 12:11:10 PM »


It had a real Joe Cooley sound to it but was leaking air like crazy with a lot of notes not sounding. She said, funny, it was working quite well when I got it a few weeks ago. Removal of the bellows pins revealed that about a dozen reed plates had fallen off and more were about to follow suit. Did you leave it in a very cold or very hot place? Oh... er, maybe!

The couplers were very stiff and generally difficult to operate. Is this fixable? On the only other similar box I've tried the couplers were completely jammed and you had no choice but to play with all four voices.

What a sad tale, though I doubt that it is down to how the new owner has stored it. Probably been deteriorating for years and the reeds were ready to fall off when played again.
If it was unused, especially in adverse conditions for a long time, the stiff couplers could be due to the slides being tight in the blocks, because there is not a lot to deteriorate in the actual switching mechanism.
Obviously it really needs looking at by someone competent before any real damage is caused. Working the couplers, if they are really tight, is as likely to bend something as free them off and the bellows will not take kindly to reeds floating about between the folds!

Logged

Theo

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 13752
  • Hohner Club Too
    • The Box Place
Re: Paolos again
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 12:57:00 PM »


I ask because someone brought one to show me the other day. It was a D/D# - she had been given it :o by an Irish colleague after she expressed a whim to learn the box! The basses were tuned to go with the D# row, which I wasn't expecting.

It had a real Joe Cooley sound to it but was leaking air like crazy with a lot of notes not sounding. She said, funny, it was working quite well when I got it a few weeks ago. Removal of the bellows pins revealed that about a dozen reed plates had fallen off and more were about to follow suit. Did you leave it in a very cold or very hot place? Oh... er, maybe!

The couplers were very stiff and generally difficult to operate. Is this fixable? On the only other similar box I've tried the couplers were completely jammed and you had no choice but to play with all four voices.

If it was a gift then I imagine it would be well worth spending the money to get the reeds re-waxed, valves replaced and couplers attended to.  None of those tasks would be out of the ordinary for a good box technician, but as Shy Talk says the couplers could easily be made worse by forcing them.
Logged
Theo Gibb - Gateshead UK

Proprietor of The Box Place for melodeon and concertina sales and service.
Follow me on Twitter and Facebook for stock updates.
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 


Melodeon.net - (c) Theo Gibb; Clive Williams 2010. The access and use of this website and forum featuring these terms and conditions constitutes your acceptance of these terms and conditions.
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal