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risto:

--- Quote from: No Strings Attached on January 10, 2009, 10:34:17 PM ---
Hornpipe.  Usually dotted. 
--- End quote ---

What can be confusing is that when HPs are notated they may be written out straight, ie. no dots shown so they look like reels. The writer assumes one knows what a Hornpipe is and how it is supposed to be played. I think the best way to learn to recognise these and the tempos used is to get good records and listen a lot.

Ebor_fiddler:
1) I always define a Schottische as a slow hornpipe, danced with a swagger (have I spelled it rightly though?).

2) You can generally tell a hornpipe (but you can't tell it much!) by the fact that you can usually sing "and he played his ukelele when the ship went down" to the last few bars (this is serious comment -try it!).

:)

Chris.

TomB-R:

--- Quote from: risto on January 10, 2009, 10:40:39 PM ---What can be confusing is that when HPs are notated they may be written out straight, ie. no dots shown so they look like reels.

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Fair enough, though this doesn't mean that there aren't "undotted" hornpipes.  (Hornpipes are actually more "tripletty" than "dotted" of course, but we all know that anyway.)
I think the term "clog hornpipe" was sometimes used to distinguish "dotted" ones.

Pete Dunk:
Here's an example of a hornpipe that isn't played dotted, taken from Alistair Anderson's CD and tutor book set 'Concertina Workshop' (the annotations above the music at the beginning is to do with English concertina fingering). Alistair plays it straight as per the first abc file.

X:1
T:Joe Burke's Hornpipe
Z: Peter Dunk December 2008
S: Alistair Anderson's Concertina Workshop
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
K:G
(3DEF | GAGE D"R2"G," R3"B,"R1"D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB {AB}A2 GA | BAGF E2 (3DEF |
GAGE DG,B,D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB A2 GA | BGGF G2 :|
Bc | d^cde dBGD | GBd^c dBgf | efge dBGA | BAA^G ADEF |
GAGE DG,B,D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB {AB}A2 GA | BGGF G2 :|

Add the field 'R:hornpipe' into the header and you get something very different when played back as a midi in one of the online converters:

X:1
T:Joe Burke's Hornpipe
Z: Peter Dunk December 2008
S: Alistair Anderson's Concertina Workshop
R:hornpipe
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=140
K:G
(3DEF | GAGE D"R2"G," R3"B,"R1"D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB {AB}A2 GA | BAGF E2 (3DEF |
GAGE DG,B,D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB A2 GA | BGGF G2 :|
Bc | d^cde dBGD | GBd^c dBgf | efge dBGA | BAA^G ADEF |
GAGE DG,B,D | GFGA Bdgf | edcB {AB}A2 GA | BGGF G2 :|

Pete Dunk:
As a further example of 'hornpiping' a tune, here's something I found in a tune book which gave no indication of the required rhythm so I naturally assumed it was a reel and wasn't to impressed with the tune; sometime later I gave it a go as a hornpipe and loved it at once.

X:1
T:Alistair Anderson's Fancy
C:Will Atkinson
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=150
R:Hornpipe
Z:Peter Dunk
K:G
(3DEF | G>BF>G E>GD>C | B,>DG>B c>ed>c | B>GD>G B>dc>B | A>GF>G A>cB>A |
G>BF>G E>GD>C | B,>DG>B c>ed>c | B>gf>e d>BA>c | B2G2G2 :|
F>G | A>cF>A D>FA>c | B>dG>B D>GB>d | c>eA>c B>dG>B | A>GF>E D>GF>G |
A>cF>A D>FA>c | B>dG>B D>GB>d | c>eg>e d>BA>c | B2G2G2 :|
F>G | A>cF>A D>FA>c | B>dG>B D>GB>d | c>eA>c B>dG>B | A>gf>e d>cB>A |
G>BF>G E>GD>C | B,>DG>B c>ed>c | B>gf>e d>BA>c |1B2G2G2 :|2B2G2G3 |

Now listen to it 'straight' and you might agree with me that it becomes an also ran.

X:1
T:Alistair Anderson's Fancy
C:Will Atkinson
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=150
Z:Peter Dunk
K:G
(3DEF | GBFG EGDC | B,DGB cedc | BGDG BdcB | AGFG AcBA |
GBFG EGDC | B,DGB cedc | Bgfe dBAc | B2G2G2 :|
FG | AcFA DFAc | BdGB DGBd | ceAc BdGB | AGFE DGFG |
AcFA DFAc | BdGB DGBd | cege dBAc | B2G2G2 :|
FG | AcFA DFAc | BdGB DGBd | ceAc BdGB | Agfe dcBA |
GBFG EGDC | B,DGB cedc | Bgfe dBAc |1B2G2G2 :|2B2G2G3 |

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