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Polska
« on: February 13, 2009, 07:06:35 PM »

This are really questions for any Nordic types out there.

Apart from being a lively 3 time tune from Northern Europe, what are the characteristics of a polska?  What type of dance do people do to these tunes?

Does anyone have the ABC or notation for some straightforward polskas that fit well on a diatonic accordion and would be a good way into getting the feel for this type of tune?

For that matter what are Hambos, Hallings, Reinlanders, and all these other wonderful tunes from up north?
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Re: Polska
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 10:28:28 PM »

Crucial thing about a polska is that the emphasis is on the first and third beat. It is NOT a waltz, so the count goes something like

1_31_31_3

The middle beat can be a bit "stretchy."  It's a couple dance with couples changing between walking to the rhythm and then rotating once per bar with the man and woman's steps on different beats.  There are video clips on the net but I can't find a link just now.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 12:54:51 AM »

This are really questions for any Nordic types out there.

Apart from being a lively 3 time tune from Northern Europe, what are the characteristics of a polska?  What type of dance do people do to these tunes?


I've a vague recollection that Tim Van Eyken said you dance them like waltzes but with a limp .

Does anyone have the ABC or notation for some straightforward polskas that fit well on a diatonic accordion and would be a good way into getting the feel for this type of tune?



The Richard Robinson tune book has quite a few Polskas. I've the ABCs on my PC
but the link to the web site is :-
Richard Robinson site
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Re: Polska
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 07:33:08 PM »

This are really questions for any Nordic types out there.

Apart from being a lively 3 time tune from Northern Europe, what are the characteristics of a polska?  What type of dance do people do to these tunes?

Does anyone have the ABC or notation for some straightforward polskas that fit well on a diatonic accordion and would be a good way into getting the feel for this type of tune?

For that matter what are Hambos, Hallings, Reinlanders, and all these other wonderful tunes from up north?

The Hambo is a polska.  Polska is a general term covering multiple dances whereas Hambo is a particular dance with a specified sequence of moves.  The other two you mentioned I'm not familiar with.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 09:22:27 PM »

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Crucial thing about a polska is that the emphasis is on the first and third beat. It is NOT a waltz, so the count goes something like

1_31_31_3


That sort of makes the polska the opposite of  mazurka, accent wise.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 10:17:45 AM »

Actually to dance the Polska will make you giddy. Here in Sweden they just go around and around the same direction all the time.

At http://www.ransatersstamman.nu/ it's the most popular dance. I think that the kids just get high on it.

However, I call it the, "Dance with a limp"  As that's how it goes. One, Limp, Two (three).

There might be a video around somewhere.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 11:23:13 AM »

Polska is a fantastic dance!  I've learned it over the past couple of years.  Its not easy, but great when you get it.  If you want to hear some authentic polskas played get along to the Cumberland Arms in Newcastle on the first or third Tuesday of each month (next one will be the 17th Feb) for the "Anything but Irish" session which always includes a good selection of polskas.  Often the players include some Scandinavian players.  There is also a Scandi session on the 4th Tuesday which is mostly polskas.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 07:35:34 AM »

« Last Edit: February 16, 2009, 11:47:01 AM by Hasse »
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Re: Polska
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 03:03:34 PM »

Henrik Norbecks site is very clear and begins to make sense of some of the confusing ways that polskas seem to be notated.  With the unequal beats we seem to be in parallel territory to the waltzes in 5, 8, 11 or 13 time which modern French composers seem to love.

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Re: Polska
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Re: Polska
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Re: Polska
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Re: Polska
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 09:11:37 PM »

Bit acrobatic that one.

See what I mean about going round and round the same way all the time. I got sick just looking at them. :|||:

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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 07:55:02 AM »

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All we have to do is just keep talking apparently.  My wife reckons, of course, that this whole forum is in fact an anti-melodeon playing plot designed to keep us away from our instruments and glued to the computer screen (she's in on it obviously) - aaaaah! Its working!
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Re: Polska
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2009, 10:58:28 PM »

The swedish website durspel.comspillefolk.dk has many swedish tunes besides the danish in sheet and midi (look under 'nodesamling').

I you search YouTube for 'durspel' (swedish = melodeon) you'll find videos with swedish melodeon-people playing, including some polskas and hambos. 

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Re: Polska
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2009, 06:41:57 PM »

I noticed this site a while back, it's a good one.  And while it's not a polska, Skeppareschottis is a good 4/4 tune that would fit in well at any session as a barndance or hornpipe.
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Re: Polska
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2009, 10:03:37 PM »

I noticed this site a while back, it's a good one.  And while it's not a polska, Skeppareschottis is a good 4/4 tune that would fit in well at any session as a barndance or hornpipe.

Yes we play Skeppareschottis a lot, but then "we" are over here in Sweden.

Schottis' are very close to the Hornpipe and there are lots of Hornpipes I play for our dancers as a Schottis.

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