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Bellows repair, split cardboard
« on: November 11, 2018, 08:39:09 PM »

Hello Melnet,
I've picked up a Hohner 114 at auction, and the bellows have an attempted repair to the card board that has split top to bottom on one of the folds.
How should this be repaired?
Tape the inside of the bellows?
Remove the broken cardboard, and splice the bellows together?
Thank you for your help.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2018, 08:49:32 PM »

I've repaired many splits in the valleys of bellows by gluing in, on the inside, the corner of a cereal packet so that the fold is already there. I used Shreddies boxes, but was chastised by Mr Bailey, who swears by Kellogg's! 
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2018, 09:05:58 PM »

Just in case you have the same confused reaction to 'corner' that I did, think 'edge' where two sides meet. Probably blindingly obvious, but I've made school boy errors when misreading something simple before. Sorry, Winston for rewording your already helpful suggestion.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2018, 09:43:15 PM »

Mr Smith,
I have it on good authority that " Shreddies" have been manufactured in some sort of incomprehensible metric (I believe its called) system that would combust upon use here in Merica land. ; )

So put some card in it and drive on?
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2018, 10:08:38 PM »

I've repaired many splits in the valleys of bellows by gluing in, on the inside, the corner of a cereal packet so that the fold is already there. I used Shreddies boxes, but was chastised by Mr Bailey, who swears by Kellogg's!


Indeed I use either Shreddies or Weetabix boxes, whichever is in vogue in Chez Bailey. Cut a repair patch out of the edge of the box where there is already a fold, I then bend the fold the other way to give bare cardboard to apply the glue (I used pva wood glue) to then slip some greaseproof paper in the fold to make sure you don't glue the folds together and clamp the bellows up tight til the glue goes off.

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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2018, 10:10:59 PM »

If you're across the pond, then I'm positive that you'll find Kellogg boxes, as per Mr Bailey's favourite. The scored line up the corner/edge/whatever makes for an ideal, neat fold.

"Where two sides meet", would suggest to me the corner where the ends are glued together, therefore being double thickness, which wouldn't be any use IMHO. But I do see where confusion might arise through my inadequate terminology. Thanks, Pete. 

(I see that Lester has explained his (and my) method perfectly, while I was typing.)
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2018, 12:41:40 AM »

I've repaired many splits in the valleys of bellows by gluing in, on the inside, the corner of a cereal packet so that the fold is already there.
Just to clarify, could I ask, is that the inside of the bellows itself or is that the inside of the valley - which would be the outside of the bellows?
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2018, 05:42:17 AM »

Inside the actual bellows. I'm not really bothered by the cosmetics of my instruments, but I'd draw the line at giving free advertising for Nestle every time I opened the bellows!
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2018, 04:55:24 PM »

Much better (both stiffer and thinner) and more durable than cereal cardboard is 0.4mm "aircraft" plywood.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2018, 04:56:39 PM »

Much better (both stiffer and thinner) and more durable than cereal cardboard is 0.4mm "aircraft" plywood.
Agreed as long as the split is not along the fold.

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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2018, 06:03:12 PM »


Indeed I use either Shreddies or Weetabix boxes, whichever is in vogue in Chez Bailey.

Lester is well known as a cereal repairer.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2018, 07:36:16 PM »


Indeed I use either Shreddies or Weetabix boxes, whichever is in vogue in Chez Bailey.

Would that be this type of Shreddies, which could no doubt deal with lingering odours, such as those associated with melodeons from smokers house, as well as effecting a repair?
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2018, 08:15:06 PM »

I believe that the Shreddies (or Weetabix) that we're talking about might actually be a cause of flatulence!
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2018, 07:08:47 AM »

I can’t see that plywood would stand being opened and closed more than once ! Therefore not much good for the repair in question  :o
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2018, 01:27:13 PM »

What about those of us who prefer porridge in the morning?  I suppose we could eat Scott’s or Quaker, but we get it in bags.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2018, 02:00:44 PM »

Then you take it to a fettler, who has a sensible breakfast.
(Which should be tax deductible as construction materials.)
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2018, 05:12:05 PM »

Chris, with all due respect, if you can afford to feast on Scott's or Quaker's, then you should be supporting our wonderful fettlers by using their services, and not be messing about yourself.
And just to get back to something more melodeon related; eating cereals from the Tesco economy range or from one of the new(ish) supermarkets like Aldi, means there's more money floating around to indulge our MADness by buying yet more melodeons.
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2018, 05:39:22 PM »

... there's more money floating around to indulge our MADness by buying yet more melodeons.

Does MAD qualify as serial box buying?
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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2018, 06:40:08 PM »

I can’t see that plywood would stand being opened and closed more than once ! Therefore not much good for the repair in question  :o

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning, Nick; I'm assuming  the very thin plywood would be used to reinforce the collapsed card, and there would be a hinge of something like scrim or tape and glue to facilitate the movement. I can't imagine anyone would expect ply to fold and unfold like card. But maybe I'm misreading Diatonix's  suggestion......

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Re: Bellows repair, split cardboard
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2018, 06:48:11 AM »

On reflection, I think you’re right Graham.  :-[
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