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What's going on here, then?
« on: February 16, 2009, 04:57:29 PM »
Whilst searching through YouTube for any interesting melodeon videos, I found this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSn3t32RPBU&feature=related


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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 10:19:32 PM »
I see he has more than the normal accidental buttons.   :D
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 11:37:37 PM »
Quote from: Tyker on February 17, 2009, 10:19:32 PM
I see he has more than the normal accidental buttons.   :D

True, he's got a 2.5 row box.  But what's he actually doing with it?  Check out the bellows motion...


It took me a few views to figure out what was going on.  I still haven't a clue why...maybe it's some sort of joke?


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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 08:30:43 AM »
I think it is genuine.  At times the sound is not quite synchronised with the video, but that often seems to happen with YouTube.

It sounds like a G/C melodeon, so the RH is playing higher up the keyboard than those of us used to D/G boxes would expect.

As for the bellows motion, the player has a rather idiosyncratic style, with the LH constantly waggling the bellows up and down in rhythm of the main beat. But that is superimposed on the real push-pull needed for the tune. And as he is using a lot of cross-row technique the underlying bellows movement is generally very smooth.

Whatever you might think of the video, it's a nice tune. :)

Edited to add:
Check out this video by the same player. Do you find this more believable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdYMSjwEGUY&NR=1
« Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 08:34:11 AM by Steve_freereeder »
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 11:18:19 AM »
I'm sure it is real. I just wonder if the open fly is an essential part of the act?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfCsI2wIhAo&feature=channel_page
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 11:30:25 AM »
Quote from: Steve_freereeder on February 18, 2009, 08:30:43 AM
As for the bellows motion, the player has a rather idiosyncratic style, with the LH constantly waggling the bellows up and down in rhythm of the main beat. But that is superimposed on the real push-pull needed for the tune. And as he is using a lot of cross-row technique the underlying bellows movement is generally very smooth.

Players who don't do typical 'oom-pah' basses or those who play across the rows sometimes use bellows wag to put a rhythmic pulse into their playing, which is how Mr Cutting and his like do such outrageously danceable music despite using smooth basses a lot of the time. Mr Cutting is a little more subtle than this of course... you have to look closely to spot it!

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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 06:16:52 PM »
Quote from: risto on February 18, 2009, 11:18:19 AM
I'm sure it is real. I just wonder if the open fly is an essential part of the act?

Quite... I thought there was something a bit gravitationally challenged. :)

Rest of his techinique seems fine though... ;D

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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 08:27:19 PM »
What struck me as odd is that the right hand buttons seem to play the same notes no matter which way he is wiggling the bellows. Oder?
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 09:12:12 PM »
Quote from: Steve Jones on February 18, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
What struck me as odd is that the right hand buttons seem to play the same notes no matter which way he is wiggling the bellows. Oder?

Check the link above in full screen, shows clearly that the notes follow the bellows direction as well as buttons pressed. Still believe its for rreal.
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 09:32:34 PM »
Quote from: Steve Jones on February 18, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
What struck me as odd is that the right hand buttons seem to play the same notes no matter which way he is wiggling the bellows. Oder?

Yep, exactly.  What's also odd is why the video cuts to another clip at about 7 seconds in, just as the tune starts.  Still far from convinced...
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 10:44:37 PM »
No, sorry, it all looks perfectly normal to me. Ignore the up and down movement, just concentrate on the in and out movement. It's very smooth and sometimes difficult to see which way it's going but that is a sign of good cross row technique.......

...... and this is my 300th post so happy birthday or whatever to me.  ;D
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 10:16:17 AM »
All very nice, but what is this guy doing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NL&hl=nl&v=aX-8KJVPWps


Get your head around that if you can.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 10:19:17 AM by Fidjit »
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 10:43:19 AM »
He's playing a D/G Mory left-handed and upside down.
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 12:40:34 PM »
Yes Rees  got that too.
And quite nicely played.
Anyone doing a course on that anywhere ?
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 04:09:35 PM »
A course on what, upside down melodeon?  ;)
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Re: What's going on here, then?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2009, 09:51:41 AM »
Another name for Cajun music perhaps ??
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