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[Chris Ryall]

Posting this as a French modern Classic   .. for its cool improvised breaks     .. and the dancers        what it's all about     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkTyFqQqVU          (or click the image)   (original version)

[Barry M]

Hi Chris
Great clip thank you for posting the link
Great music & dancing
Does the dancing style have a name?
Is it a softer version of American swing dancing?
Hoping to do some European folk dance classes at Sidmouth Folk festival, mazurkas, waltz's etc.
But I suspect nothing like this
Thanks again
Barry

[Chris Ryall]

British Swing is written and phrased as a scottiche (French style) but on the video it is being danced 'fluidly'

See also budgie's parallel post on Absynthe - they are very, very good!

[ladydetemps]

is it any relation to balboa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFcgORgZ-hk

[Barry M]

British Swing is written and phrased as a scottiche (French style) but on the video it is being danced 'fluidly'

That's interesting
Something to think about at Sidmouth couple dance workshops
Thank you
Barry

[Barry M]

is it any relation to balboa?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFcgORgZ-hk

Good question
I do dance balboa it's great fun and I know what you mean.
I think it could be a cross over using some of the lead and follow from balboa over a scottiche.
But it's only a thought
It looks great.
Barry

[Chris Ryall]

Forgot this little video!  Here's how to play it ...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am78ivB4KxQ 

[Roland Carson]

I have been working on this great tune for a while but haven't got there yet.
I would be interested to see anyone else's videos if there are any.
Roland

[Barry M]

QUOTE "Forgot this little video!  Here's how to play it ...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am78ivB4KxQ"

That's great Chris,
Very useful
Thank you for the link
Barry

[Chris Ryall]

"Swing" it! Pignol also puts in quite a lot of little cuts to emphasise strong notes (corresponding to weight changes in the dance).  Milleret's "groove" is the more square aspect of this, but helps emphasis the off rhythm. If you play it solo .. bit of compromised needed and keep the bass very light! I'm sure it's in thier book ...

[Barry M]

That's useful thank you.
Enjoyed the French couple folk dance workshops, last year at Sidmouth.
Intend to do more at Sidmouth this year.
Hopefully understanding the dances better, will help with playing the tunes.
All good stuff
Never enough time!
Barry

[smiley]

I just tried searching mel.net for 'British Swing' played on a D/G box and got this message:

"You may have meant to search for brutish swing."   [maybe mel.net needs an emoticon for the gallic shrug]

Anyway, as I was saying, could anyone point me to a decent version of British Swing being played on a brutish D/G with the same fingering as Norbert & co. use? Or with any other fingering for that matter: I began playing it in Em with the first part an octave lower and then the second part in G, which avoids going too high on the D row.

merci, Ian

[Pete Dunk]

I nearly choked to death reading that smiley as I'd just taken a large mouthful of tea. Thanks very much, I shall spend the next half hour or so cleaning the desk, keyboard and monitor.

Don't do that again, I have the block button and I know how to use it!   

[smiley]

Don't do that again, I have the block button and I know how to use it!   

ah ha - now you brutish types are showing your true colours!

[Roland Carson]

Posting this as a French modern Classic
  .. for its cool improvised breaks
    .. and the dancers
       what it's all about 

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkTyFqQqVU
         (or click the image)

I had been looking for this video for ages. Why is is no longer available?

We have been working with British Swing over Christmas and it gets into your head. The more you study it, the more involved it gets.
Here is our result. Certainly not perfect....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1zMbyRZOY&feature=youtu.be

Roland

[MelonBox]

I only heard this tune at a wassail this weekend - OBSESSED MUCH??!! Yah, totally coming on board the good ship MelonBox!

[Chris Ryall]

strange to say, the next act of the Pignol/Milleret partnership was the group "Obsession". Their signature Obsession asymmetric rhythm number is probably best on Dédale's Chronique Urbaines CD. But all the 3 group CD's are presently superb value at €12 from the mustradem.com site

  http://boutique.mustradem.com/index.php?cPath=21_31

My own favourite track is Mélodie volée au café pingouin - tune stolen from Penguin Cafe [orchestra] on the Et pourtant elle tourne CD. Another fabulous asymmetric rhythm piece that builds like a fugue. About 20 years back I was somewhere up val d' Isère and they did an encore "this is for our English friend, Chris" and did … my all time favourite piece    (really; yes I'm a softy!)

Back on topic … I'd say the best way to get into British swing might be the French/Italian version referenced in the original post. Isabel Pignol's gurdy is quite important to the sound.

  http://youtu.be/8bhTjUIUBWw

You can then get into the rhythm and other detail from the recent didactic vidéo pédagogique

  http://youtu.be/Am78ivB4KxQ

La mineur=Am,  Fa=F,  Ré mineur=Dm, Mi mineur=Em (on G/C)

       Em               C           Am                   Bm          in UK£ 

…  and buy a CD to show gratitude?
 

[Lyn]

Am just beginning to learn this, Chris. Not an easy little number, but I shall persevere! Onwards and upwards!