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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2014, 09:06:58 PM »

I reckon it's a mark of one's progress when you recognise how much better others are than you.

Couldn't agree more. Also when you recognise that you can learn something from almost any other player, whether they're "better" or "worse" than you are.
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2014, 09:09:59 PM »


Hence IMHO 'Good' is not a useful adjective.

Rant over  ;)


I prefer the term '' half decent''

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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2014, 11:00:31 PM »

I was JUST going to say competent as I was scrolling down the posts, and there you got there before me Pikey! That, or 'confident', which doesn't mean the same as cocky.
But I guess you can exude confidence while at the same time playing quite appallingly. But I hope I have never done that. I have played appallingly, but not whilst exuding confidence!

I suppose - I'm ruminating now - you can be only a little bit goodish, yet play well enough to please people. That has to be something to warm the cockles of your heart. Great to be appreciated. However humble your offering.

Sorry, rambling now, it is getting late. Let's all enjoy having our aspirations, whatever they may be, and hope there will be a few achievements along the way. Night night!  :|||:
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2014, 04:35:09 PM »

Well put lyn, as always  (:)
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2014, 05:00:18 PM »

I believe it is only your audience that can decide if you are a good player.  The good players I know are never satisfied with their own playing, which I suppose means they don't consider their playing to be as good as it could be. 
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2014, 06:50:22 PM »

Spot on Theo, I think you are a good player and a good box fettler too !  8)
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2014, 07:09:21 PM »

Thank you Ken.  Your Saltarelle has just jumped several places up the queue!
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2014, 07:28:20 PM »

.      Nicely put. Being good is not about "playing well"

hmm, two Fundamental Truths already, we are doing quite well!
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2014, 07:59:15 PM »

then perhaps being a 'good player' is about knowing when your not!

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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2014, 03:32:09 AM »

Firstly, I completely agree with the suggestion that a good musician is able to listen to others in a group, then alter his/her playing if necessary.

I cannot disagree with Pikey's list, either!

For me, I rely on feedback from people listening and whether they enjoyed it.

From a morris (I could hear the groans from some of you from way over here! It has to be mentioned though, given the ego boost it gave and continues to give me) perspective, it was first to be asked to start a dance, then later being nominated as lead musician for Black Pig. Getting compliments from dancers and audience members suggests I'm at least on the right path for playing for dance.

I can never work out whether applause in sessions when I lead a tune/set is for the tune selection, my playing or simply humouring me for 'at least you gave it a go, now someone else can play something better'. Probably the latter.
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2014, 09:28:37 AM »

...when you are asked if you have a CD of your music for sale ! this happened to me last week and the lady concerned was dissapointed when i said no.She then said to remember to let her know when I have one made.  Also I have had some visitors say how they enjoyed my playing.

I will improve more when I master reading the dots and then organise my sets and practice will become more organised.

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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2014, 10:43:45 AM »


I will improve more when I master reading the dots 





not necessarily!

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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2014, 02:41:19 PM »

I believe it is only your audience that can decide if you are a good player.

...when you are asked if you have a CD of your music for sale !

Seems to be a consensus here - other people are better judges of whether you're any good.
Your own judgement should always be critical enough to keep up pressure to improve, while not being so harsh as to make you want to give up.

I will improve more when I master reading the dots
As George says, not necessarily, but it might help you with learning and remembering tunes.
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2014, 09:18:24 PM »

You know when you are a good player when the wife stops saying " oh! For god's sake"  :neigh:
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2014, 10:07:24 PM »

Lol !

Based on our dance out last night, you know you're a good player when the landlady and some of the regulars keep bringing you free beer.....

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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2014, 10:41:00 PM »

 8) Crikey, free beer for playing a melodeon, sounds good...what tune...You Are My Sunshine?
Saddest song I know, beautiful if sung slow!
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« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2014, 10:52:58 PM »

Long way to Tipperary, pack up your troubles, Siegfried Line, run rabbit run, white cliffs of Dover, Delilah, Telstar, Memphis Tennesee, Delilah, Woodland Revels, every tune from Trumpton, Wallace and Gromit, .......  ;) damn, one of those was a 'folk' tune........   ;)
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« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2014, 03:51:32 PM »

You know when you are a good player when the wife stops saying " oh! For god's sake"  :neigh:
Or at least, not until you've been practising the same tune for four hours...
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2014, 06:23:37 PM »

I find it interesting this reluctance to say, "I'm a good player." Or the assumptions that go along with it ... if you are saying you are good, that means you're saying you have nothing to learn; or that you are done learning; or that you are placing yourself somewhere on a hierarchy.

It was a big step for me when I could say to myself, "Yeah, I'm a good player. I play for dancers. They seem to like it. I play for cafes. They seem to like it. I enjoy what I play. I've been playing for fifteen years, and working hard at it. I play in a couple of bands, and get along with others."  I in no way am saying, "I'm done." I am constantly trying to push myself further. I still have heroes who inspire me, no end. And I have a very clear view of my deficiencies. But ... deficiencies and all ... I think I'm a good box player.

Not great.  But pretty damn okay.

Maybe this is a USA/Brit psychology thing?
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Re: You Know When You're A Good Player....
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2014, 07:06:47 PM »

I agree entirely, Gary. I think the assumptions that some people have made in the thread connected to recognising your own talent are absurd. I'm like you; I realise that I am a good player, and I recognise my strengths and weaknesses. I'm well aware that my playing is flawed in many ways, and I've still got a lot to learn about certain things, and recognising that I am good at certain things has not impeded my criticism at all.
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