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Hm?
« on: February 22, 2015, 05:32:15 PM »

Hi Alan from Essex here.
I have been downloading some music from the free notes site (as its free and you can ask for it in any key you want)
I have downloaded some music (Cockles and Muscles in D) The problem is one of the chords to go with it is Hm? (Ive also seen H7) Now as far as I know there is no H. The site seems to have a German origin so is it something they have in their music or a mis-print?
Help please

Alan
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2015, 05:33:28 PM »

H is German for B. B is German for B flat. Who would have guessed.   ;)

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Re: Hm?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 05:43:53 PM »

Yeah, I've just learnt it also! Thirlling!  ;D
With Theo, in this post here http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,16397.msg201716/topicseen.html#new
They've been talking about how to convert a box to B/C tuning so we learnt there, that we could buy with Hohner the set of H/C reeds, cause it would be the B/C in German Language. Nice.  (:)
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 05:52:01 PM »

Another thing to look out for is the Italians use of Do - re - me etc. In England we tend to use them as relative pitches so for tunes in G,  Do = G, Re = A etc. But the Italians use a fixed version where Do always = C, Re always = D, etc so Italian boxes that we call D/G are usually labeled Re/Sol.

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2015, 06:12:11 PM »

Ohh yeah, but I believe most of the people already knows this double notation

C=Dó - D= Ré - E= Mí - F= Fá - G= Sol - A= Lá - B= Sí

We latins we learn music with the notation Dó, Ré, Mí, Fá... but always receiving much much content with the notation C-D-E-F... so it is one of the first steps in music learning classes around here, demonstrate to the student, that he will find this double notation sometimes and where does it come from.

I am not sure sure if the people around Europe learn the same way... (learning with the C-D-E-F... and listening about they will find Dó - Ré - Mí - Fá...)

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Re: Hm?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2015, 06:26:54 PM »

Who would have guessed.   ;)

Several million Germans....?   ;D
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 09:28:24 AM »

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   A certain … Mr Bach?  The note motif Bb-A-C-B (Germanic = B-A-C-H)
                    is said to be hidden repeatedly in his compositions.
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 10:05:32 AM »

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   A certain … Mr Bach?  The note motif Bb-A-C-B (Germanic = B-A-C-H)
                    is said to be hidden repeatedly in his compositions.

Interesting Chris. Bach must be the most inflential composer ever, (I'm no expert), even influencing contemporary composers.
My Uncle, who sadly died in the mid '90s, was a composer of a-tonal music and achieved a reasonable amount of success in a very small market. But I clearly remember some of his printed scores, which had the title of the piece on the cover, together with his name and below that, would be the letters
B. A. C. H.. I remember asking him once, why these letters were there and his reply was "as  recognition of the influence of Bach in my composition". He said that was done by many composers, not just by him, (my Uncle).
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 11:54:22 AM »

.    A certain … Mr Bach?  The note motif Bb-A-C-B (Germanic = B-A-C-H)
                    is said to be hidden repeatedly in his compositions.

Bach used it in the final, unfinished contrapunctus of The Art of the Fugue, whilst Franz Liszt paid homage to the old German master in his audacious and dramatic Prelude and Fugue on the Theme BACH, a.k.a. Fantasie und Fuge über das Thema B-A-C-H.

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Re: Hm?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 12:36:47 PM »

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Re: Hm?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 06:54:30 PM »

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Re: Hm?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 07:24:43 PM »

You can make the musical letters spell all sorts of other things, of course. I remember once seeing a tune composed around the sequence A BAD EGG, and Shostakovitch has his musical signature very recognisable in many of his works (Dimitri Shostakovitch -> D SCH where 'S' is because the Germans call E flat 'Es')
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Re: Hm?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 11:13:56 AM »

Simon Jeffes's piece - theme | C A G E | D E A D |  - written to honor the death of John Cage is another classic :|glug

[ed] Just read Anahata again - does this mean I can motif myself  C  B ré Eb?  ::)  does that make me "Cm9"?  8)
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