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Author Topic: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe  (Read 7001 times)

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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2014, 04:09:58 PM »

Was this tune played at Ken Watson's session in the Dolphin at Whitby?
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2014, 12:32:45 AM »

Was this tune played at Ken Watson's session in the Dolphin at Whitby?
My memory is already hazy, but yes - I think we did play it there.
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2015, 02:23:53 PM »

Having been enticed back to Melnet after a long absence, I've explored a few threads that looked interesting, and came across this one.  I'm impressed that Jack Campin guessed correctly that 'Mr Moore' began life as a G minor tune, since that is precisely the key in which Thomas Watts noted it 200-odd years ago.

Actually I made another tweak additional to the key change to E minor: in the MS, the tune has a key signature of one flat, which means the E notes are naturals, and the tune is in G Dorian.   I tried it first in E Dorian, and found the sound of the C#s really grated, so I changed them all to C naturals, thus making the tune Aeolian.  It's funny, because I usually love the Dorian mode - especially in song melodies - but this one didn't work for me.  But do try it for yourselves and see what you think.

I don't know whether Jack has an opinion on this, but one fiddler suggested to me that the tune might actually have been Aeolian, but that lazy fiddlers found the open E string an easier option than fingering Eb!
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2015, 05:41:06 PM »

The late David Johnson (author of "Scottish Fiddle Music in the 18th Century") once told me that was exactly his guess as to how G Dorian fiddle tunes often originated.  When the harmonic pattern was an Italian Baroque-style passamezzo, unfamiliarity with the idiom combined with laziness to make an irresistible force pushing that E upwards.
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2015, 07:03:54 PM »

Thanks, Jack, nice to have that confirmed.
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2015, 06:42:05 PM »

And here's the way I play it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms5zoQu2O7w
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Re: ABC wanted - A Hornpipe for Mr Moore/Mr Moore's Hornpipe
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2015, 11:38:29 AM »

That's nice Brian !
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