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baz parkes

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To D or not to D...
« on: June 29, 2015, 04:28:30 PM »

Just back from ECMW Bampton (along with several other of us)...and in a bit of a state of shock.  Not one sighting of a C 1 row...unless I happened to be in the wrong place.  Mentioned this to a friend who reckons all the C 1 row players have now bought D 1 rows as they are more session friendly to fiddlers.

Any thoughts?  (This may not apply to those of you in East Anglia...) :|glug
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 04:59:17 PM »

Just happen to have a smart little prewar one row in C, fairly recently fettled looking for a good home...(not necessarily in East Anglia...) ;)
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2015, 06:18:21 PM »

Oh Brian, don't say that, please :(

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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2015, 06:32:35 PM »

John, you'd love her......
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 06:54:55 PM »

all the C 1 row players have now bought D 1 rows as they are more session friendly to fiddlers.

Any thoughts?  (This may not apply to those of you in East Anglia...) :|glug

Bought, presumably, from Hen's-Teeth-R-Us?  I've been on the lookout for a D 1-row for several years, and the few I've seen have been really silly money. Surely there can't be so many fiddlers who are incompetent to play in C?  Apart from anything else, 1-rows just sound so right in C.

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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 07:04:49 PM »

Could I afford to love her though?

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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 08:08:39 PM »

Of course you could John! And the Highland air would do her no end of good! Why not give me a bell...you could be pleasantly surprised...
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 08:39:59 PM »

Can't make phone calls about melodeons at the moment SWMBI is within earshot.
Don't want to end up playing in a high voice. :|||:


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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 08:46:55 PM »

Graham's right, a nice little 1040 in C and fettled by someone like Microbot takes some beating....still listening John?  ;)
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 09:00:30 PM »

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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 11:13:37 PM »

Going the other way I have a 1-row, 3-stop in A, which would really please the Fiddle players. Any offers?
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2015, 12:45:23 AM »

Fiddlers want to eat their cake and have it!   They mock us for being stuck in a couple of keys when they, of course, don't have this problem, and then they complain when we play in C!
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2015, 02:23:03 AM »

Going the other way I have a 1-row, 3-stop in A, which would really please the Fiddle players.
Yes, I should think they'll go crazy over playing togther with such a device... :D
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2015, 08:34:13 AM »

The fiddles were playing in F when I last got over to Galway.  Ditto Sharon Shannon - on a whistle though … john Connolly's 1-row stayed in D right though :|glug
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2015, 10:12:42 AM »

We managed a brief outburst on C/G anglos in the Horseshoes on Sunday lunchtime.

I've always understood D/G melodeons were introduced in order to play in fiddle keys, so I agree with Frank about fiddlers wanting their cake and eating it.

The other members of my band seem quite keen on G min  :(  Yes, I know the notes are all there, but...

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2015, 11:00:15 AM »

The fiddles were playing in F when I last got over to Galway.  Ditto Sharon Shannon - on a whistle though … john Connolly's 1-row stayed in D right though :|glug

Must remember to take my C/F if I ever go there, then......
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2015, 01:25:46 PM »

For the folks that play a C one row and with a fiddler, its pretty simple. All you do is get the fiddler to D-tune his fiddle to C instead of D...

Don't know if you folks do that over the pond but over here in Canada and USA the fiddlers D-tune to C but if there is a D one row then they just tune back up to their norm  Most of our Acadian music Quebecois music and down south Cajun music thats pretty much how its done... pretty simple and not complicated at all..
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2015, 02:48:24 PM »

The fiddles were playing in F when I last got over to Galway.  Ditto Sharon Shannon - on a whistle though … john Connolly's 1-row stayed in D right though :|glug

I'd be very surprised if they were in F Chris (though I think it's a lovely key on a whistle), more likely tuned up to Eb - which used to be so common there that it was referred to as "Galway concert pitch" (it makes the fiddles sound very "bright") - whilst Johnny Connolly's old Hohner 4-stop was in C, though he later got a Cajun one in D.

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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2015, 02:49:55 PM »

All you do is get the fiddler to...

Therein lies the problem.... >:E
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Re: To D or not to D...
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2015, 03:06:54 PM »

All you do is get the fiddler to...

Therein lies the problem.... >:E

... all the more if there should be lots of them...  :|glug
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