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[Steve C.]

No connection to me.
So seldom see Gaillards here in States, plus so new, so "cheap", yipes….

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

Beautiful


John


http://www.buttonbox.com/button-accordions-in-stock.html

[Grape Ape]

Wow is that temping....

[squeezy]

Man that is cheap for any Gaillard 18 bass 3 row!  Just £2,800 UK price for a box that is so much more than a Castagnari or Saltarelle.  I suspect it's Bb/Eb tuning is the reason for it's lower price.

[AirTime]

Interesting. Very minimal, "modern" French box, with with no second set of middle reeds & no 3rds on the chords. Presumably pretty light. Where are the treble & bass registers? Those rectangular pieces of wood on the top of the case? How would those work?

[pete /acorn]

Man that is cheap for any Gaillard 18 bass 3 row!  Just £2,800 UK price for a box that is so much more than a Castagnari or Saltarelle.  I suspect it's Bb/Eb tuning is the reason for it's lower price.

If it was purchased by UK buyer would it attract VAT and or import duty.

Pete

www.acorninstruments.co.uk

[Chris Ryall]

…. even second hand, Pete? Yes, that is one keen price though! Gaillard's register switched are subtle things, sliders set into the head end of the box, so easier to move before rather than during a tune (though I've seen that achieved). 

 It looks to be his "standard layout" Bb/Eb/accs on the right, and the same (relatively) on left - the 12 chord + fully chromatic basses both ways system he developed with Pignol/Milleret. Saphir gets either this or 14 bass all chords left end and he says there is "no room" for more. The 18 has no 3rds and that allows space for the extra bass notes.

Looks a perfect Whitby box for Pikey. He could take it along to Wednesday's Bb/Eb session at the Golden Lion … and then move on the the A/D fiddles one in the Elsinore afterwards, and play it on the cross

[blue eyed sailor]

…. even second hand, Pete?

Was even applying to antiquarian German books when re-purchased from the US...

P.S.: I wouldn't mind having this box at hand either...

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

Yes, the buggers nabbed me for about £400 on a guitar I had hand built in Maine. They pay no attention to invoices and such like, preferring instead to apply tax, at their valuation. So even if you get a really cheap deal, they can still tax it at full price.
You can't win


John

[Chris Ryall]

That is illegal and should have been appealed, John. And if you did not get and adjustment you should have referred to case to the Ombudsman (that is what he is for).

I paid £80 to get a Mori import out of bond in 1990, but a £400 charge would value your guitar at £7-8000? (duty rates on musical instuments vary bizarrely but ain't that high)!

[Theo]

Not just duty.  Ther is 20% Vat on any imports into the EU. It is levied on the value you declare plus the delivery cost. So £400 charge would indicate a value for the guitar of £2000 which is not expensive for hand built.

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

Aye, yer not far off there Theo. Maybe £100 less I paid for it.


John

[pete /acorn]

Hi
The fee would be 3.7% duty plus 20& VAT on price plus carriage

this box would therefore be around £3500 depending on exchange rate at time of purchase

Pete

www.acorninstruments.co.uk

[brazilian.BOX]

This box is powerful. When playing 12bass I already feel everything much more "complete"... Ive never played 18bass. But It's a wish for the future.

[AirTime]

One reason many goods seem much cheaper in the US is the absence of any kind of national consumption tax (VAT). There is no duty on accordions/melodeons (unless they happen to come from North Korea or a couple of other axis-of-evil countries). Most individual states have a (modest) state sales tax, but they don't charge it on goods coming in from out of the country, nor, for that matter, on goods shipped in from out-of-state, including hundreds of billions of dollars in online sales.

[Grape Ape]

Before anyone across the pond gets too envious,  he said with all too recent experience in such things, any pittance we might save on a few taxes here and there is more than made up for in our outragious medical expenses, the type that charge you $11,000 just for a bed.

But this is a melodeon, not a political site, so I apologize....

Man that thing is a beauty, and were it in GC, I would be chomping at the bit trying to swing it and medical expenses at the same time.  Truth is, I play my BbEb thinking in terms of GC, as i find the former too confusing to wrap my head around.

[blue eyed sailor]

Truth is, I play my BbEb thinking in terms of GC, as i find the former too confusing to wrap my head around.

And why shouldn't you? However, I'm always thinking in tems of CF, as my first melodeons were like that...

[Grape Ape]

 It looks to be his "standard layout" Bb/Eb/accs on the right, and the same (relatively) on left - the 12 chord + fully chromatic basses both ways system he developed with Pignol/Milleret. Saphir gets either this or 14 bass all chords left end and he says there is "no room" for more. The 18 has no 3rds and that allows space for the extra bass notes.

Chris, could you shed some light on the basses? The one row looks to be all basses no chords?  Will this layout take getting used to for someone used to more traditional layouts? What are the advantages/disadvantages?

[Grape Ape]

Also, if GC is the lowest box on the scale, would BbEb be the next lowest?

(I love me my low notes)

Also, aside from the wait, anyone have a ballpark figure on what these things go for new?

[blue eyed sailor]

Also, if GC is the lowest box on the scale, would BbEb be the next lowest?

(I love me my low notes)

There'd be still A/D boxes, wouldn't they?