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First grown up session...
« on: November 02, 2015, 04:22:25 PM »

NickF of this parish kindly took me to my first grown up session in Lewes on Sunday, I'd never have had the courage to go on my own. It was friendly and somewhat challenging for someone who had never played outside the house before apart from a slow and steady session and I was actually encouraged to lead off on two tunes...the thing I found mildly frustrating was that I couldn't hear myself playing most of the time above the playing going on all around me. Is this normal I wonder, or does one eventually learn to tune in to ones own playing? Anyway, it's wet my appetite no end for more of the same... :||: :Ph
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2015, 04:44:31 PM »

I find it can be difficult hearing yourself at times.
For me it was further complicated by changing from concertina to melodeon some years back so I had to 'learn' what my melodeon sounded like amongst the backdrop of everyone else.
I find now that I've become more comfortable with my instrument in sessions, and also playing for longer, I've tuned into its sound so find it easier to hear what i'm playing.
In my experience, yes you do tune into yourself when at sessions.
Well done for taking the plunge!
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2015, 05:09:57 PM »

Portable amplifier mate. That's the answer  >:E

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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2015, 05:21:59 PM »

..  (:)
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 07:38:09 AM »

That's not necessarily a disadvantage! Can be good to lurk behind the "wall of sound". What I've found slightly worse is naming a tune and starting off and no-one else joins in :-[

However, to echo you; the Lewes group are very welcoming & very forgiving (they put up with me showing up!)
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 08:21:46 AM »

I quickly learnt that so long as I can't hear my box over the crowd, then I must be playing the right notes at the right time. The problems start when you can hear yourself...
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 08:46:36 AM »

You went to two sessions in one day Nick?  Good work  :||:
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »

Well, if I didn't come up to Dorking on a Sunday I wouldn't meet with you & the inestimable Lester  ;D
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 12:26:26 PM »

Well, if I didn't come up to Dorking on a Sunday I wouldn't meet with you & the inestimable Lester  ;D

The inestimable and the incorrigible?  ;)  :|||:
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 12:28:45 PM »

Well, if I didn't come up to Dorking on a Sunday I wouldn't meet with you & the inestimable Lester  ;D

The inestimable and the incorrigible?  ;)  :|||:

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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2015, 01:11:31 PM »

inimitable  >:E
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 02:26:05 PM »

Most admirable, don't you know!
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2015, 05:01:40 PM »

Another session last night, I'm getting ever so slightly addicted I think...But back to the "can't hear my box" bit.Is there a gizmo,like say a rubber sucker that sticks to the box and connects via a thin wire to a hearing aid like thingy you can stick in your ear that amplifies the awful noise coming from my box?
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2015, 05:02:43 PM »

Stethoscope?
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2015, 07:39:28 PM »

.. (:)..
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2015, 11:16:37 PM »

Must remember to pack stethoscope for Witney weekend !  ::) :||:
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2015, 04:13:30 PM »

Another tip is to try sitting in different parts of the room.Also avoid being next to loud instruments(dare I say banjo's?)
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2015, 11:17:45 PM »

Another session last night, I'm getting ever so slightly addicted I think...But back to the "can't hear my box" bit.Is there a gizmo,like say a rubber sucker that sticks to the box and connects via a thin wire to a hearing aid like thingy you can stick in your ear that amplifies the awful noise coming from my box?
You really don't want to start thinking that way. It's like certain inexperienced  choir singers, especially children who, when asked to sing a harmony part, stick their fingers in their ears to block out the other parts. You need to hear how your sound blends in with the rest. If it blends in so much that you can't identify it, you must be getting it more or less right.

I think you are probably too used to playing alone, and in time you'll learn to distinguish your own sound from the rest. You may find that you can do things to make your instrument more identifiable, e.g. by varying the treble stops, if you have a choice, or by playing just the basses, or just the melody, some of the time. But you do need to keep listening to what else is going on, otherwise you may be playing certain phrases differently from the others, or using different bass chords, or even getting out of time. For now, just enjoy making a useful contribution to the tunes.
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2015, 11:17:58 AM »

Wise words, Marje, thank you.
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Re: First grown up session...
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2015, 04:17:42 PM »

Trying to hear yourself can be even worse in a melodeon workshop.

The options for changing sitting location are limited, and all the noisy instruments ARE melodeons!

Changing the sound of your box using any treble stops can definitely be effective, as can switching boxes (if you have that luxury).

But as Marje said, in time you'll tune in your own sound, and you'll 'know' you played a wrong note almost before you hear it.
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