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Lester's Liliput
« on: November 10, 2007, 12:05:01 PM »

Hating to heap even more praise on Theo, lest he become big headed  ::), but I have just got my Liliput back from Theo's ministrations and it is wonderful. He converted it from C/F to D/G and generally fixed it up. I think it will be instantly promoted to my morris box as it is light, loud and has got the wonderful Hohner sound.

Everyone needs a Liliput in their collection!

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 10:26:17 AM »

Everyone needs a Liliput in their collection!

So true! Just finished renovating mine, also a C/F to D/G conversion.
Now should I repitch the Preciosa too? Or quit while I'm ahead?

Like, I really need another D/G box!!!       ;D

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2007, 08:13:22 PM »

I'm feeling very excited about this -- I have just acquired a Liliput. I had been feeling a little oh, is it too shabby, did I pay too much for it -- but then I saw how much the Liliputs on Pete Grassby's stall were (also in unrestored condition, more than twice what I paid including shipping, customs and so on), and I feel much better now. Now I just need to ring Theo and sort out getting it to him, getting a quote and so on. The ringing endorsements for the quality of Theo's work were very impressive this weekend!

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2007, 11:42:24 PM »

Everyone needs a Liliput in their collection!

So true! Just finished renovating mine, also a C/F to D/G conversion.
Now should I repitch the Preciosa too? Or quit while I'm ahead?

Like, I really need another D/G box!!!       ;D

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Preciosas are very nice boxes, but the reeds a a PIA to work on.

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 10:04:36 AM »



the great one also retuned my little Preciosa to DG, fantastic box, gone right off Liliputs, they're just too big .............

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 12:38:05 PM »

Last year at Sidmouth I got myself a Galotta Sport 42, about the same size as a lilliput but only two rows (and about a third the price).  Although it's in need of some magic fingers running over it I love it to bits even if it's in C/F - I have no desire to change it to D/G.  In fact, I think we should all change to C/F, it sounds much nicer than D/G and sod the fiddle players ;D
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 01:04:11 PM »

All the really good fiddle players I know love to play in Bflat.  If a C/F box is nicer than D/G  then Bflat/Eflat is even better.  The guitar player in my band keeps encouraging me to get a Bflat box.
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 01:17:02 PM »

So a Streb is the answer then!

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 01:25:33 PM »

Not for me! :o  I just can't stand the sound of synthesisers pretending to be like real instruments.  I'd rather have one instrument with real reeds in it even tuned in F blunt and nobody else would play with me. ::) Analog for the 21st century.  Digital is so last century. :o
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 01:26:35 PM »

Did I go to far?  Don't want to offend anyone. :)
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2007, 01:47:04 PM »

Afraid you might need moderating, Theo? :P

I absolutely agree with you. (But then I've never tried one...  :D)

As a useful reality check, Streb lovers, step outside your diatonic frame of mind and remember your reaction the first time you heard (or heard of) a midi piano accordion...


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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2007, 01:55:14 PM »

Theo/Steve

I will file you both under the "don't get what a Streb is about" heading. A Streb will never replace a "proper" melodeon but it is good for:

  • havingfun
  • playing with others is keys other than God's chosen ones (D/G)
  • making funny noises
  • getting yourself noticed
  • practicing in hotel rooms whilst not getting ejected
  • practicing through headphones what you have just had demo'd at M@W in a room full of others doing the same
  • etc etc etc

So we agree it is not a melodeon and not suited to everyone but I love mine!

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 02:39:59 PM »

I can appreciate all those points Lester. I might be tempted to get one if they cost £200. But if I had the current price of a Streb to spend on a new box, well, it wouldn't be a Streb.

The thing that alarms me the most in the posts I have read about Strebs is the idea of someone playing one in a session. I'd find that to be in very poor taste.
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 03:40:25 PM »

The thing that alarms me the most in the posts I have read about Strebs is the idea of someone playing one in a session. I'd find that to be in very poor taste.
Best we don't attend the same sessions then  :'(

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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 03:44:08 PM »

Yes, Lester, they wouldn't be big enough for both of us!  ;)

All the really good fiddle players I know love to play in Bflat.  If a C/F box is nicer than D/G  then Bflat/Eflat is even better.  The guitar player in my band keeps encouraging me to get a Bflat box.

Have they had a change of heart, then, or a change of fiddle player? I seem to remember your saying a while back that the fiddlers you played with didn't like Bb and I accused them of being wimps. Oh wait, maybe they don't fall into the "really good" category!

I'd love a Bb box -  a half-step in A/A# to be precise, particularly so that I could play with friends that have Bb flutes - fabulous sound.
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 05:49:11 PM »

......The thing that alarms me the most in the posts I have read about Strebs is the idea of someone playing one in a session. I'd find that to be in very poor taste.
Hang on a minute....
I have been to a couple of sessions where Lester has played his Streb, and I'll have you know he does so in very good taste. No gimmicks - just good honest playing. I've been to far more sessions where other people have played 'conventional' instruments badly and insensitively. If there is going to be such a thing as poor taste, it resides in the player, not in the instrument.
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2007, 07:32:33 PM »

Please don't anyone get upset, that was not my intention.

I don't want to stop anyone playing a midi instrument,  I just don't want one myself.  And I can see the advantages of silent playing.  I suppose I'm lucky in having a place to practice where I can't be heard.  I wouldn't even object to anyone bringing one to a session. Hey, I've played in sessions with three bodhrans all playing together, but at different speeds.  Now that almost did get me upset.

And Steve, just a story in response to your question about midi accordions.  I spent a week in a trade fair the year before last where another trader had a new reedless accordion from a well known Italian maker.  Not a pleasant memory.
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 08:26:51 PM »

If there is going to be such a thing as poor taste, it resides in the player, not in the instrument. OK?

Actually Steve, when you think about it, poor taste is always in the eye (or ear, or judgment) of the beholder�. Which is why I said "I would find that..."

Perhaps I should have said instead, "I wouldn't appreciate that" - and I wouldn't, although obviously a sensitive player would help. And of course much depends on the type of setting. In the kind of session that I most like to play in or listen to, a Streb would really not fit in. But I might enjoy Lester's contribution in its own setting. OK?  8)
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2007, 11:00:56 AM »

Hi all
This isnt meant as confrontational or to prolong an argument, just a simple question
If you havent heard one, Steve, how do you know you wont like it in your session, is is just a case of fear of the unknown  ;)
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Re: Lester's Liliput
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2007, 12:11:41 PM »

G'day Lin

It's true that I haven't heard one in the flesh as it were, but I've heard plenty of samples over the net. It's an aesthetic and philosophical thing really - the fact that all the instruments I play with in sessions are acoustic is important to me. I have quite enough electronics in almost every other part of my life and I really like getting away from them. The absence of batteries and speakers, and - more importantly - the beauty and sheer tangible physical quality of the sound that acoustic instruments produce, are a considerable part of the pleasure I get from making music. The people I play with wouldn't like anyone to join in on electric bass or a Casio keyboard either... 

Hope this helps you understand my attitude, which wasn't intended to be confrontational.
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