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114 in B flat?
« on: February 27, 2016, 12:14:18 PM »

Title says it all; did Hohner ever make a 114 in B flat?
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 12:35:09 PM »

Not sure.  I have had a 113 in B flat.
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 01:50:04 PM »

Thanks,Theo;I'd love to get my paws on one...
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 03:21:35 PM »

Theo  given the reed configuration and quality on a mid fifties 114 , would it be possible/practical to take a C box down to Bb ?
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 03:22:36 PM »

Title says it all; did Hohner ever make a 114 in B flat?

Given its popularity in Cajun and Zydeco circles I'd guess "perhaps..." :|glug

Rees might know...
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 03:25:20 PM »

Theo  given the reed configuration and quality on a mid fifties 114 , would it be possible/practical to take a C box down to Bb ?

I've converted a 6 button Chanson Kids Melodeon from C to Bb so I'm sure you could do it with a melodeon with proper reeds in it  ;)

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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2016, 04:34:32 PM »

And very pleased I am with it Lester...we must have a chat about bastardising one of my 114G's then...
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 06:34:52 PM »

Theo  given the reed configuration and quality on a mid fifties 114 , would it be possible/practical to take a C box down to Bb ?

Just need to fit a new set of reeds.
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 08:44:17 PM »

Got it, impractical and not cost effective to retune 4 banks .
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 09:07:52 PM »

Shouldn't think a new set of reeds plus fitting and tuning would be cheap....
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 09:18:01 PM »

You could load the reed tips to take the pitch down a tone.  It's not something I've done, but the reed playing quality might be affected.
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 09:04:37 AM »

Hi Brian!

If you put your two 114 posts together, you have another (to me) obvious route ... have your 114 in G converted to Bb.

Look at the scales of G and Bb and it's a pretty straightforward conversion with just four extra reeds required at the 'top end'... a great many of the notes are common to both Bb and G and you just move the reedplates along one position + tune as required with semi-tone soldering for less than half the notes/tongues.

... the Basses and chords are easy to source from any Bb/Eb Club/Erika type box

At the same time, you would get a currently unrestored 114 completely cleaned, rewaxed and fine-tuned.... any of the tuners/fettlers would be able to do this for you...

cheers!

Mike

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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 11:17:42 AM »

You make it sound so easy Mike...... ::)
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 12:33:03 PM »

Hi Brian,

If not exactly 'easy', it is a pretty straightforward key switch ... I've sent you an email ...

cheers

Mike R
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 01:19:44 PM »

Hi Brian!
Look at the scales of G and Bb and it's a pretty straightforward conversion with just four extra reeds required at the 'top end'... a great many of the notes are common to both Bb and G and you just move the reedplates along one position + tune as required with semi-tone soldering for less than half the notes/tongues.

... the Basses and chords are easy to source from any Bb/Eb Club/Erika type box

At the same time, you would get a currently unrestored 114 completely cleaned, rewaxed and fine-tuned.... any of the tuners/fettlers would be able to do this for you...

cheers!

Mike

Get thee behind me microbot.... >:E
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Re: 114 in B flat?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 03:33:39 PM »


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Get thee behind me microbot.... >:E
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ahaaa Baz ... the pangs of temptation I would guess!!!

cheers!

Mike R
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