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Suzanne Perron

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Hohner H reeds question.
« on: February 27, 2016, 04:55:49 PM »

What does this person mean..."newer H reeds" or are they just confused by the Mylar (?) leathers?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131736713811?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 05:07:08 PM »

It may originally had "T" Trossingen (SP)  reeds then the newer "H"   Hohner reeds.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 05:07:26 PM »

The box would originally have had reeds on zinc plates, stamped with a letter T.
Later boxes have reeds on aluminium plates, stamped with an H. I think current reeds still have an H.
The reeds may have been replaced to change the key, although contemporary C/F T reeds shouldn't be hard to find.
The consensus seems to be that T reeds sound better, although that may not be true for all periods.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 05:43:38 PM »

There is a lot of misinformation being handed out here.
Reeds made by Hohner may be stamped with H or T.  H reeds are usually older probably late 1929s to  the 1940s and maybe later.  Later reeds, up till today are usually marked with a T. As well as the change in mark there is also a change in material from zinc played to aluminium plates, but it's not a simple change over that happened at the same time.  There are zinc reeds stamped with T, and aluminium reeds stamped H.  Sometimes several of these combinations can be found in the same instrument, apparently as originally fitted.
In addition there are several changes in reed tongue design and some variation to reed plate thickness.
The instrument in the Ebay listing is one of the less common combinations of aluminium reed plates stamped H, and from the photo I can see no reason to suppose that these are anything but the original reeds fitted to the box. The seller seems to have only a partial understanding of the history of Hohner reeds.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 05:47:31 PM »

Thanks for the correction Theo.  Shouldn't post while watching the rugby.  :|bl
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 06:15:36 PM »

What Theo said:  I have a pre-war Hohner with its original reeds (at least I have no reason to believe they're not), in which the treble reeds are stamped "M" on zinc plates, and the bass end is "H" reeds on aluminium plates. I've always understood (probably wrongly!) that "T" reeds are later than "H"reeds.

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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2016, 06:27:28 PM »

Interesting. Thanks for t h e discussion. My listing has H & I reeds on the bass end. H only on the treble end...got me wondering.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322015130813?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.magic.l2649


Looks like an I not a T to me.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 08:38:12 PM »

Definitely an upside down T Suzanne :) .. Nice box too
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 08:43:13 PM »

I have boxes from 1946-the early fifties that are factory original with Presswood chassis and black keyboards, mixtures of T and H reeds etc.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 10:34:56 PM »

Definitely an upside down T Suzanne :) .. Nice box too

If you say so...time for bifocals.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 11:05:36 PM »

Definitely an upside down T Suzanne :) .. Nice box too

If you say so...time for bifocals.

Looks pretty clear to me H reeds on the treble, except for one T.  T on the big bass reeds.

You can also see that the bass reeds are an original set fc BC basses because the blocks are marked HC (H being the German symbol for B)
But the treble blocks are marked GC and must have come from another instrument.  Double Ray branded boxes were all semitone tuned, usually BC, very occasionally CC#
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2016, 11:22:45 PM »

It must have been something else because it says on the treble reeds that it was converted to b/c in 2000 by someone in Seattle.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 01:07:24 AM »

"someone in Seattle"

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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 01:09:31 AM »

http://expertaccordionrepair.com/


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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 01:53:00 AM »

 ???

That's my listing not his if that the problem. It sounds good. I think it may have been re-turned in in 2007 due to another notation on the treble blocks...not sure. Those initials look like NW.



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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2016, 09:02:06 AM »

The Petosa family has been making and repairing accordions in Seattle since 1922. If your accordion was repaired at their shop, you would be fortunate.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2016, 04:41:01 PM »

Plus one on Petosa... I had my first visit there about 30 years ago.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2016, 01:31:40 AM »

The Petosa family has been making and repairing accordions in Seattle since 1922. If your accordion was repaired at their shop, you would be fortunate.

I used to visit their shop 20 odd years ago....I made an inquiry about having my (very similar) G/C Pokerwork tuned there. I was told by their floor guy that Hohners were junk, and I would be wasting their time and my money on such an enterprise. I still have it, and I would not part with it, and have since learned to service my own boxes.
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Re: Hohner H reeds question.
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2016, 03:40:13 AM »

My experiences with Petosa were when (the old man) was still with us.
Since then, it has changed.

He used to come out of the back when I was road testing the diatonics and once mentioned  "that is how they are supposed to be played".  Apparently he had little experience with melodeon players  : ).
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